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limbicnuminousity

(1,402 posts)
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 04:58 PM Feb 22

National security lawyers alarmed by Fox News town hall: Did Trump just "disclose classified info?"

Source: Salon

Former President Donald Trump’s remarks about nuclear weapons during a Fox News town hall on Wednesday raised alarm from national security attorneys.

Asked by Fox News host Laura Ingraham about fans who worry about his “safety,” Trump said, “I worry about their safety too.”

“These people, everybody in this room is in great danger right now,” he said. “We have a nuclear weapon that if you hit New York, South Carolina is going to be gone too. I worry about their safety. I think it’s the reason I’m doing this.”

-snip-

“Is Trump out there spilling the details on our nuclear weapons and the destructive range of those weapons in the midst of a Fox interview? Is it me or is he doing that?” asked national security lawyer Bradley Moss, questioning the media silence on “the former president potentially revealing classified information about our nuclear weapons arsenal on live TV.”

Read more: https://www.salon.com/2024/02/22/national-security-lawyers-alarmed-by-fox-news-town-hall-did-just-disclose-classified-info/

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National security lawyers alarmed by Fox News town hall: Did Trump just "disclose classified info?" (Original Post) limbicnuminousity Feb 22 OP
It's only February. We have a long way BootinUp Feb 22 #1
Why wouldn't he disclose classified info? MontanaMama Feb 22 #2
That doesn't sound particularly useful to anyone. Silent Type Feb 22 #3
Agree. Sounds incoherent. onetexan Feb 22 #33
A really weird way to refer to *our* weapons intrepidity Feb 22 #4
Or could it be that he's so fucking dumb that this Native Feb 22 #9
Lol, you're probably right intrepidity Feb 22 #10
If they showed him a map, he might have altered it with a Sharpie and internalized his own "estimation" of the blast... xocetaceans Feb 22 #17
Having an unhinged conversation with your fans using no verifiable facts is even better! OAITW r.2.0 Feb 23 #36
He's on Team Putin JoseBalow Feb 22 #13
He's now dreaming of nuking New York so he doesn't have to pay muriel_volestrangler Feb 22 #15
There we go. He probably asked if we can just nuke New York, unblock Feb 22 #27
...or by our weapons.. thomski64 Feb 22 #25
I was thinking just that. He meant he and Putie's nukes. nt woodsprite Feb 22 #26
This one's a freebie? EarthFirst Feb 22 #5
I sincerely doubt we have a single weapon that Would be of such a magnitude. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 22 #6
I agree. Mr.Bill Feb 22 #8
Even a 100 MT nuke would not reach Trenton, NJ ThoughtCriminal Feb 22 #12
Someone may have been trying to explain 'MIRV' to traitortrump. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 23 #40
There is no doubt. We do not have any weapons of that magnitude. Wonder Why Feb 22 #18
He is absolutely bullshitting. LudwigPastorius Feb 23 #35
Well he's rich & white, so FAUX just shrugs its shoulders. Crowman2009 Feb 22 #7
He's probably spewing BS as usual IronLionZion Feb 22 #11
This from the guy who used a sharpie... Mawspam2 Feb 22 #14
Sounds like the Big Kabloona Kid Berwyn Feb 22 #16
tRump is known for exaggeration. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 22 #19
Huh, imagine that, trump disclosing secrets. republianmushroom Feb 22 #20
He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. progressoid Feb 22 #21
He's really close to giving Jack Smith the legal equivalent of a loaded weapon 4lbs Feb 22 #22
While the actual is probably BS; the theoretical might be what he's blabbing. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 22 #23
Yeah. I think he said something on the order of having the capability of exploding 4lbs Feb 22 #29
There was supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom maxrandb Feb 22 #24
Either this or he's deliberately making fun of all the idiots (he hates)... Justice matters. Feb 22 #31
An explosion that big would kill the world. C_U_L8R Feb 22 #28
Complete and utter bullshit. mn9driver Feb 22 #30
Concisely stated. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 23 #37
I doubt that information has not been published. The thing is, Dump can't distinguish between the zone of Martin68 Feb 22 #32
Exactly, he's referring to fall out Farmer-Rick Feb 23 #38
Trump opens his mouth too much,...& he just proved it to all: everyone, anyone, stupid ones smart ones & inbetween ones. Stuart G Feb 22 #34
Just my two bit opinion, but I wouldn't give much credibility to what he said, as he talks out of his ass most Firestorm49 Feb 23 #39
Not that he hasn't spilled secrets, but my money is on... JHB Feb 23 #41

intrepidity

(7,302 posts)
4. A really weird way to refer to *our* weapons
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 05:07 PM
Feb 22

As though US weapons would be deployed on US? If he wanted to refer to enemy weapons, why not say so? Or, was he using the royal/collective "We" to mean all of humanity?

Native

(5,942 posts)
9. Or could it be that he's so fucking dumb that this
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 05:16 PM
Feb 22

was the only way our military could get him to understand the capabilities of these weapons? They probably showed him a map, and he asked what state that was to the south at the bottom of the circle.

xocetaceans

(3,871 posts)
17. If they showed him a map, he might have altered it with a Sharpie and internalized his own "estimation" of the blast...
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 06:54 PM
Feb 22

...just like he altered that NWS/NOAA map of that hurricane forecast.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
36. Having an unhinged conversation with your fans using no verifiable facts is even better!
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 01:10 AM
Feb 23

Sharpies not wanted!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,320 posts)
15. He's now dreaming of nuking New York so he doesn't have to pay
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 06:18 PM
Feb 22

but it'd take out a state that voted for him, so he's in 2 minds (well, 2 quarter-minds).

unblock

(52,243 posts)
27. There we go. He probably asked if we can just nuke New York,
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 08:11 PM
Feb 22

And then they told him no, it would affect the entire northeast.

Then he said f the entire northeast.

Then they said yeah, well, it would affect places to the south, like South Carolina as well.

Then he said oh, guess we can't do that then.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
12. Even a 100 MT nuke would not reach Trenton, NJ
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 05:50 PM
Feb 22

Nukemap only goes up to 100 MT. There's really no point in trying to scale up from that.

In the early 1950s, Edward Teller proposed a 10,000 MT device and in the 1970s Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory did some simulations for a 5 ,200 MT device. For obvious reasons, nothing larger than the Soviet "Tsar Bomba" (57 MT) was ever assembled.

https://bigthink.com/the-future/more-powerful-nuclear-bomb/

I think it's another case of Trump half listening to something he knew nothing about - which is pretty much everything - and spewing it out to try and impress an audience of know-even-less-than-nothings.


Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
40. Someone may have been trying to explain 'MIRV' to traitortrump.
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 11:05 AM
Feb 23
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_independently_targetable_reentry_vehicle

Donny Dipshit could only imagine a single mushroom, so it had to be a really, really, hugely one to cover all that area.

LudwigPastorius

(9,150 posts)
35. He is absolutely bullshitting.
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 12:57 AM
Feb 23

A hypothetical 50,000 megaton bomb (more or less 1,000 times the power of the largest nuke ever detonated) would only destroy everything in a radius of 100 miles or so. That's a lot, but not anywhere near the 1,500 miles from NYC to Charleston.

Even a 5,000 megaton bomb, if it could even be built, would be about as big as the space shuttle's external liquid fuel tank. Good luck delivering it.

Crowman2009

(2,497 posts)
7. Well he's rich & white, so FAUX just shrugs its shoulders.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 05:09 PM
Feb 22

Whereas with everyone else, it's calls for execution.

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
11. He's probably spewing BS as usual
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 05:18 PM
Feb 22

After US tested Castle Bravo at 15 megatons and Soviets tested Tsar Bomba at 58 megatons, both countries decided lots of smaller nukes were better than one superbomb. So no, I don't believe anyone has a superbomb with a blast radius like what Trump is describing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba#Test

Kid Berwyn

(14,907 posts)
16. Sounds like the Big Kabloona
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 06:19 PM
Feb 22

Matter and Anti-Matter.

Imagine what humans could do if we weren't so busy killing each other off over land or gold or oil or such?

I bet we could change the world for the better, even.

4lbs

(6,858 posts)
22. He's really close to giving Jack Smith the legal equivalent of a loaded weapon
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 07:38 PM
Feb 22

to use on him, if he hasn't already done such.


Blabbering Donald Trump Hands Jack Smith a Key Piece of Evidence

Trump said something he probably shouldn’t have in that Fox News town hall.

https://newrepublic.com/post/179170/trump-jack-smith-evidence-classified-documents


Donald Trump must really believe he’s above the law, because he continues to essentially admit to wrongdoing in the classified documents lawsuit against him.

Special counsel Jack Smith indicted Trump in June for hoarding classified documents at Mar-a-Lago. During a Fox News town hall on Tuesday night, host Laura Ingraham asked Trump why he hadn’t simply returned the material when the government asked him to do so.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
23. While the actual is probably BS; the theoretical might be what he's blabbing.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 07:49 PM
Feb 22

No doubt they know how to build a bigger bomb, but that doesn't mean they have actually built one.

4lbs

(6,858 posts)
29. Yeah. I think he said something on the order of having the capability of exploding
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 08:55 PM
Feb 22

a nuclear weapon in NYC and it affecting people in South Carolina.

I doubt such a weapon really exists, except in theoretical mathematical terms, as dreamt by the DOE.

Maybe if one exploded an ICBM with say, two dozen warheads, all on NYC, that might happen in the extract. Practically though, it is very, very, unlikely.

It reminds me of people saying if say, L.A. was to get hit with a 6.0 earthquake, the effects could be felt hundreds of miles away.

Umm... yeah, doesn't mean that the 6.0 travels all that way. By the time people hundreds of miles away feel it, it will usually be down to a 2.0. They were "affected", but not anywhere nearly as much as those at the epicenter.

However, mention "nuclear" and it is a trigger word for many people. Especially the scared ones that seem to make up most of his base.




maxrandb

(15,331 posts)
24. There was supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 07:57 PM
Feb 22

My GOD!!! I am so sick of the fucking stupid. Never in my wildest fucking dreams did I imagine this Asspickle talking about nuclear weapons, unless he was trying to scam idiots by selling T***p bombs.

That he's treated with any amount of seriousness ought to knock the earth off it's axis and suck us all into a black hole of stupidness. Like a bottom-feeding vortex of stupid

Did someone steal his Pelodium Q36 Explosive Space Modulator?

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Justice matters.

(6,929 posts)
31. Either this or he's deliberately making fun of all the idiots (he hates)...
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 09:36 PM
Feb 22

who believe his abject BS. His criminal mind is THAT fucked up.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
28. An explosion that big would kill the world.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 08:54 PM
Feb 22

With the sun blocked out, you'd either freeze or starve no matter where you lived.

mn9driver

(4,426 posts)
30. Complete and utter bullshit.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 09:35 PM
Feb 22

Cheeto is just lying the way he does 90% of the time. What’s left of his brain is thinking about New York and South Carolina, so he improvises a lie to make himself feel better. This one has the added benefit of providing some fear for his fans to wallow in. They like that.

The other 10% of the time? He’s still lying, but in a more calculated and rehearsed way. Every single word that leaves his lips is a lie of one sort or another.

Martin68

(22,803 posts)
32. I doubt that information has not been published. The thing is, Dump can't distinguish between the zone of
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 10:48 PM
Feb 22

physical destruction and radiation fallout. There is no nuclear weapon that can take out an area that large due to heat and the shock wave.

Farmer-Rick

(10,179 posts)
38. Exactly, he's referring to fall out
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 09:57 AM
Feb 23

But he doesn't know the difference because he's an absolute idiot.

But still, he should quit flapping his lips about nuclear weapons.

Stuart G

(38,428 posts)
34. Trump opens his mouth too much,...& he just proved it to all: everyone, anyone, stupid ones smart ones & inbetween ones.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 11:46 PM
Feb 22
Can't Donald Trump shut the ***k up?.....................................................................

.................................................THE ANSWER IS A TOTAL ...NO!.....................................................................................

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
39. Just my two bit opinion, but I wouldn't give much credibility to what he said, as he talks out of his ass most
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 11:01 AM
Feb 23

of the time. We now have weaponry multiple times more destructive than the bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That the reach of radiation is extensive is a given. The bird brain hasn’t said anything that we already fear in the backs of our minds.

Solution - JAIL HIM FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS. He’s a menace to society. (I’m being kind because my preferred remedy can’t be said without being investigated by some three initial entity.)

JHB

(37,160 posts)
41. Not that he hasn't spilled secrets, but my money is on...
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 12:05 PM
Feb 23

...him just blathering on about something he doesn't understand at all. Again.

Not even deliberate bullshitting, just talking to limit of his extremely limited understanding of anything that does not involve screwing someone over or getting his rocks off. When he tries to wrap his mind around anything else, it's a 1-inch belt trying to cover a 60-inch waistline.

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