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BumRushDaShow

(167,153 posts)
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 04:24 PM Feb 2024

Judge in Trump's NY fraud case denies request for delay in payout

Source: Salon

Published February 22, 2024 4:14PM (EST)


On Wednesday, attorneys for Donald Trump requested a 30-day postponement of the $355 million fine handed down in last week's conclusion of the Trump family's NY fraud trial and, one day later, their request was firmly shot down.

In an emailed response, New York Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron delivered what Law and Crime refers to as a resounding “No,” explaining to Trump's defense team that they "have failed to explain, much less justify, any basis for a stay," adding that he plans to sign a judgment proposed by the state that finalizes his ruling.

A quick visit to Truth Social — Trump's preferred sounding board for firing back at decisions against his wishes such as this one — reveals no direct statement other than a share of a Fox News article with his added quote, “New York Resident Greg Gutfeld Threatens to Move to Florida Over Trump Being Fined for Fraud." Will have to check back later for what is sure to follow.


Read more: https://www.salon.com/2024/02/22/in-ny-fraud-case-denies-request-for-delay-in-payout/?in_brief=true



Link to Law & Crime's copy of email chain (PDF) - https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24438711/email-exchange-engoron-and-roberts-trump-civil-fraud.pdf

Link to Law & Crime's article (with embedded PDF reader) - https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/you-have-failed-judge-overseeing-civil-fraud-case-quickly-shuts-down-trump-and-co-defendants-effort-to-pause-enforcement-of-364-million-penalty/
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Judge in Trump's NY fraud case denies request for delay in payout (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 OP
Good! SunSeeker Feb 2024 #1
I hope the CIA is all over trump Beachnutt Feb 2024 #2
He's desperate and dangerous. Not a good combination. mobeau69 Feb 2024 #3
i think the quotes he's going to give now may help sink him. mpcamb Feb 2024 #5
Yes I was thinking the same. Trump is likely to take foreign money Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #7
It is the FBI who needs to be all over this. The CIA can let the FBI know what they know erronis Feb 2024 #16
He cant brooklynite Feb 2024 #27
Classified documents have two levels of information PJMcK Feb 2024 #41
Remember the 'there is nothing to see in those rooms' Jedi mind trick played on the FBI when they searched MAL? ArkansasDemocrat1 Feb 2024 #52
Hey Greg Gutfeld, BlueKota Feb 2024 #4
Let him go. He's a political contributor on Faux News. He's about as useful as yesterday's turds. 4lbs Feb 2024 #18
And you're not welcome Conjuay Feb 2024 #46
The orange clown can't come up with the MOMFUDSKI Feb 2024 #6
Yep, he ain't got the money. LOL mobeau69 Feb 2024 #10
That has to irk a guy who cashed a 13 cent check ArkansasDemocrat1 Feb 2024 #39
Plus effin one. I'm howling here. Damn, that's going to keep me chuckling all day. yonder Feb 2024 #45
The day of financial reckoning is approaching, Don. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2024 #8
"NO" is not a word Trump hears very often. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #9
No does not register for that guy. speak easy Feb 2024 #23
He will threaten and bully until it turns into a yes or a maybe. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #25
I was thinking of sexual assault :( speak easy Feb 2024 #26
Yes I thought of that too. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #28
You just described a rapist Walleye Feb 2024 #29
Exactly. speak easy Feb 2024 #34
God likes rape ArkansasDemocrat1 Feb 2024 #49
I knew Judge Engoron would stick to his guns.(Pardon the pun.) ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2024 #11
Ooooooo, looks like the "billionaire" is short $450 million Novara Feb 2024 #12
Get out the check book, dude. republianmushroom Feb 2024 #13
To do that, he's going to have to start selling off his shares in Truth Social Warpy Feb 2024 #33
Deny, deny, deny. D. Trump twodogsbarking Feb 2024 #14
Trump doesn't have the funds to pay the judgment dlk Feb 2024 #15
This warms the cockles of my heart. flying_wahini Feb 2024 #17
'If you don't win, you don't pay' is a common slogan ArkansasDemocrat1 Feb 2024 #43
Time for a shoe sale! world wide wally Feb 2024 #19
Now Dump's lawyers are worried they won't get paid SouthernDem4ever Feb 2024 #20
My opinion: That's not very fair of you, Judge! Here's my thought Wonder Why Feb 2024 #21
You seem Conjuay Feb 2024 #47
K&R William769 Feb 2024 #22
traitortrump has been delaying paying his entire life. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2024 #24
His supporters will call him a martyr pfitz59 Feb 2024 #30
Two Months bmichaelh Feb 2024 #31
This was a stunt to delay entry of judgment and delay the start of 30 day period to post bond LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2024 #32
So, in essence, just pay up and shut up. Please. 4lbs Feb 2024 #35
Gussing he didn't get paid for a million orders of those stupid sneakers last weekend. Attilatheblond Feb 2024 #36
Good Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2024 #37
Dump is finally reaching the limit of his ability to defy and game the system. Martin68 Feb 2024 #38
So I guess the jackass wants to pocket the millions from that GoFundMe. C Moon Feb 2024 #40
Gutfeld is a joke PJMcK Feb 2024 #42
Awwwwwwwww, poor Donnie! Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2024 #44
Wonder how long it takes TFG to try and weasel... WestMichRad Feb 2024 #48
"New phone. Who this?" ArkansasDemocrat1 Feb 2024 #50
LOL!! WestMichRad Feb 2024 #53
I understand toupees are commanding a high price on the open market. magicarpet Feb 2024 #51

Beachnutt

(8,873 posts)
2. I hope the CIA is all over trump
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 04:29 PM
Feb 2024

because he is desperate and will pull any rotten trick in his playbook including selling classified info.

Irish_Dem

(80,415 posts)
7. Yes I was thinking the same. Trump is likely to take foreign money
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 04:54 PM
Feb 2024

in exchange for who knows what.

But we don't know how well the CIA is functioning right now.

erronis

(23,091 posts)
16. It is the FBI who needs to be all over this. The CIA can let the FBI know what they know
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 05:50 PM
Feb 2024

but they don't have any -ahem- enforcement mechanisms.

The -ahem- is because the CIA frequently steps way outside of its authorized zones.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
27. He cant
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 07:00 PM
Feb 2024

Assuming 1) he had kept documents the FBI didn't find or 2) he had made copies of everything, his material is 4 years old. Not likely to draw a large profit.

PJMcK

(24,899 posts)
41. Classified documents have two levels of information
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 07:19 AM
Feb 2024

The first level, as you wrote, is the specific data in the document. This could be battle plans, political insights, financial or personal information or more. This is generally time-sensitive in that the information will likely become stale or irrelevant as circumstances change.

The second level, which is often more important, reflects the methods and sources of the information. These may still be operative and continuing to provide up to date data. These sources are usually included in classified documents to buttress the information contained in the document. This is really important information and needs to be protected.

If Trump knows who our spies are in Russia, that would be very valuable to Putin, as one example. This is why Trump’s retaining of classified material is so serious.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
52. Remember the 'there is nothing to see in those rooms' Jedi mind trick played on the FBI when they searched MAL?
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 10:26 PM
Feb 2024

There's still secrets out there.

BlueKota

(5,137 posts)
4. Hey Greg Gutfeld,
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 04:44 PM
Feb 2024

whom ever you are, speaking as someone who was born, raised, and still does live in New York State, you won't be missed!

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
18. Let him go. He's a political contributor on Faux News. He's about as useful as yesterday's turds.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 05:57 PM
Feb 2024

Hey Greg, go ahead and go to Florida.

Yer gonna need a bigger boat, because the state is sinking due to the climate change you keep denying.

yonder

(10,264 posts)
45. Plus effin one. I'm howling here. Damn, that's going to keep me chuckling all day.
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 04:27 PM
Feb 2024

I can't keep up. Wasn't that 13 cents something to do with Barron's Boy Scout dues or something?

Whatever it was, your comment is a hoot!



OAITW r.2.0

(31,731 posts)
8. The day of financial reckoning is approaching, Don.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 04:57 PM
Feb 2024

Start liquidating! Surely, MBS and your boss, Putin, will buy your properties at inflated rates to bail you out. You'll be poorer, but still in their debt.

Irish_Dem

(80,415 posts)
28. Yes I thought of that too.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 07:01 PM
Feb 2024

Many immature males think that when a woman says no, that she is just teasing.

I actually saw a research study along these lines. Asking college age males
what women mean when they say no to sexual advances. Their answers were
astonishing.

This was some years ago, I am hoping young men are more enlightened today.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
49. God likes rape
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 09:54 PM
Feb 2024

He called Lot, the man who was gonna toss his 12 yr old daughters to the horny mob just so they wouldn't bother his angel 'guests', the only Holy man in S&G.

Don't forget the very same man later committed incest with those very same girls and made Hapsburg babies with them.

Was still considered 'Holy'.

Warpy

(114,503 posts)
33. To do that, he's going to have to start selling off his shares in Truth Social
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 07:32 PM
Feb 2024

before the ink is dry on that merger contract. That's where he's got a place to raise real cash. His properties are mortgaged up the gazoo and won't bring much. It's the cash he's got in the market where the money will come from.

Otherwise, he'd be selling his properties at fire sale prices to raise cash and he's not doing that. He knows damned full well the creditors get paid first and he'd net relatively little to pay off his fine.

Meanwhile, that 9% interest is adding up. He'd better act sooner rather than later. I imagine anyone who knows what his major stock holdings are is dumping them quietly, knowing TFG will have to sell at a loss and ready to snap them up.

twodogsbarking

(17,943 posts)
14. Deny, deny, deny. D. Trump
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 05:43 PM
Feb 2024

Yep, he said it.
On Edit. We must be fair to Trump this was about sexual assault not fraud.

"You've got to deny, deny, deny and push back on these women," Trump said, according to Woodward.

dlk

(13,183 posts)
15. Trump doesn't have the funds to pay the judgment
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 05:47 PM
Feb 2024

He’s so vastly leveraged, he probably can’t secure an appeal bond, either.

flying_wahini

(8,254 posts)
17. This warms the cockles of my heart.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 05:56 PM
Feb 2024

Think he pays his lawyers now? LOL! I can hear him now
“I lost so I’m not paying.”

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
20. Now Dump's lawyers are worried they won't get paid
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 06:06 PM
Feb 2024

Hope they are keeping a close watch on the gofundme being raised to pay them.

pfitz59

(12,516 posts)
30. His supporters will call him a martyr
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 07:05 PM
Feb 2024

and political prisoner. They won't even look at the truth, which has been plain to see for DECADES! Trump is a lifelong conman, bully, cheater and thug.

bmichaelh

(1,111 posts)
31. Two Months
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 07:08 PM
Feb 2024

Trump had two months to plan for this contingency from the time of closing arguments to the judge's decision.




4lbs

(7,395 posts)
35. So, in essence, just pay up and shut up. Please.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 08:03 PM
Feb 2024

It won't happen, because Dumpy the Clown doesn't want to do either, but....

A boy can dream.

Attilatheblond

(8,524 posts)
36. Gussing he didn't get paid for a million orders of those stupid sneakers last weekend.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 08:07 PM
Feb 2024

Gonna have to come up with some more non-existent products to sell at ridiculous prices. Poor lil Smelvis.

Martin68

(27,315 posts)
38. Dump is finally reaching the limit of his ability to defy and game the system.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 09:44 PM
Feb 2024

The system has had just about enough of his shenanigans and is not putting up with any more.

C Moon

(13,540 posts)
40. So I guess the jackass wants to pocket the millions from that GoFundMe.
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 02:38 AM
Feb 2024

Or, knowing the source (tfg and his disciples), the whole GFM was a scam.

PJMcK

(24,899 posts)
42. Gutfeld is a joke
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 07:25 AM
Feb 2024

Let me get this straight. Gutfeld is butt-hurt because Trump was proven to be a monumental fraudster so Gutfeld is going to move out of New York State because they enforce the laws.

Goodby, Greg. I’m vaguely aware that you’re one of the Fox News idiots. Why would you think that any one of New York’s 20 million residents would give a damn where you live? This level of self-importance is ridiculous.

It’s also bullshit. Fox is based in Manhattan on Sixth Avenue. They’re not going anywhere and neither is Gutfeld. It’s all performative BS.

magicarpet

(18,464 posts)
51. I understand toupees are commanding a high price on the open market.
Fri Feb 23, 2024, 10:25 PM
Feb 2024

Smelvis must have tons of those hanging around besides the dead one on his head.

That might be a quick source for raising funds to pay his court judgements against him.

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