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mahatmakanejeeves

(69,498 posts)
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 07:57 PM Feb 2024

A man set himself on fire outside Israeli Embassy in D.C., now in critical condition

Source: NPR

NATIONAL
A man set himself on fire outside Israeli Embassy in D.C., now in critical condition

UPDATED FEBRUARY 25, 20246:53 PM ET
Juliana Kim



Multiple law enforcement agencies arrived at the Israeli Embassy on Sunday afternoon after a man set himself on fire infront of the building.
Andrew Leyden

A man is in critical condition after setting himself on fire in front of the Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C., on Sunday afternoon, according to multiple law enforcement agencies.

The U.S. Secret Service said it was responding to reports of an individual experiencing a possible medical or mental health emergency. Local police arrived around 1 p.m. ET.

The fire has since been extinguished. The Israeli Embassy in D.C. said none of its staff were injured.

Vito Maggiolo, a spokesperson for D.C. Fire and EMS, said the man has been transported to the hospital, where he has "critical life threatening injuries."

{snip}



Read more: https://www.npr.org/2024/02/25/1233810136/fire-man-israeli-embassy-washington

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A man set himself on fire outside Israeli Embassy in D.C., now in critical condition (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2024 OP
Reminisent of Viet Nam War era- they were right about the morality of that war. mpcamb Feb 2024 #1
Possible? JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #2
Sad that he didn't get the mental health help he needed before he did that to himself. SunSeeker Feb 2024 #8
Rage Against The Machine. TeamProg Feb 2024 #3
Active duty Air Force Johnny2X2X Feb 2024 #4
It's being reported he succumbed to his injuries More_Cowbell Feb 2024 #5
That's the best outcome for self immolation IronLionZion Feb 2024 #7
Horrifying way to protest IronLionZion Feb 2024 #6
Yes. And not effective. SunSeeker Feb 2024 #9
Amen JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #10
Yeah, I guess Gandhi wasted his time too. limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #11
I was not aware that Gandhi and Mother Teresa died by self-immolation. NT mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2024 #13
Irrelevant. limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #14
Gandhi was an attorney by trade, who organized against British colonialism. LeftInTX Feb 2024 #20
Excellent response Stuckinthebush Feb 2024 #21
Good reply. limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #22
Mother Theresa made the world a worst place JI7 Feb 2024 #15
Gandhi was a pedophile and misogynist. limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #16
Beliefs are not always good and shoudn't always be commended JI7 Feb 2024 #19
I don't know if he was a pedo, but he tested the waters Polybius Feb 2024 #25
I think the point was that he didn't touch them, which makes him not a pedo. ExciteBike66 Feb 2024 #28
Since they were 18/19, it would be legal here. LeftInTX Feb 2024 #29
Even if he did touch them, it wouldn't make him a pedo since they were 18 and 19 Polybius Feb 2024 #30
When did Ghandi or Mother Teresa set themselves on fire? MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2024 #17
See #14. limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #18
Free Palestine. Free Palestine. Free Palestine. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2024 #12
Aaron Bushnell...Active duty AF. Sounds like he was raised conservative, but followed free Palestine groups on FB. LeftInTX Feb 2024 #23
What a waste.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2024 #24
I think he was already suicidal. Might as well go out with a message. LeftInTX Feb 2024 #32
It will make the same difference as Rachel Corrie's death did. Turbineguy Feb 2024 #26
Heard that he snowybirdie Feb 2024 #27
Airman dies after setting himself on fire outside Israeli Embassy in D.C. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2024 #31
So let me get this straight Seeking Serenity Feb 2024 #33
Was he as disturbed in wars we actually participated in with many more civilians deaths? EX500rider Feb 2024 #34
My brother orangecrush Feb 2024 #35

mpcamb

(3,224 posts)
1. Reminisent of Viet Nam War era- they were right about the morality of that war.
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 08:09 PM
Feb 2024

We fought while killing people in their own country and extracted huge damage upon ourselves.

JustAnotherGen

(38,018 posts)
2. Possible?
Sun Feb 25, 2024, 10:25 PM
Feb 2024
a possible medical or mental health emergency

Pretty obvious that he's having both if he sets himself on fire.

SunSeeker

(58,236 posts)
8. Sad that he didn't get the mental health help he needed before he did that to himself.
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 05:17 AM
Feb 2024

His family must be devastated.

SunSeeker

(58,236 posts)
9. Yes. And not effective.
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 05:27 AM
Feb 2024

It didn't stop the Vietnam War, it didn't free Tibet, and it didn't make life better for Tunisian fruit vendors.

limbicnuminousity

(1,416 posts)
11. Yeah, I guess Gandhi wasted his time too.
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 09:51 AM
Feb 2024

Didn't change anything, right? Mother Theresa too. What idiots.

Unless the act itself is meant to express something like, I dunno, moral outrage and a refusal to accept the status quo?

limbicnuminousity

(1,416 posts)
14. Irrelevant.
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 10:28 AM
Feb 2024

They didn't achieve world peace, hence whatever they did was pointless. Right? That was the implication I was referring to. Not sorry if you have a problem with that.

Maybe this man was disturbed as some have suggested. Maybe he was a Buddhist pursuing what he perceived to be the only morally acceptable course of action.

LeftInTX

(34,203 posts)
20. Gandhi was an attorney by trade, who organized against British colonialism.
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 11:27 AM
Feb 2024

He organized strikes, peaceful resistance. He also had support. Although he appeared as a "coolie", (to the embarrassment of Nehru and other members of All India Congress Committee), he wasn't alone. He had mainstream support. He also gained support of Indian's peasants.

Even without Gandhi, the odds are that the British would have left India. The All India Congress was often in negotiations with the British. The relationship between the British and India was much different than the relationship between Israel and Palestinians.

I noticed you also called him a pedophile and another stuff...So what was the purpose of that? Yeah, yeah, it was India and he married when he was 14 and his wife was 13. He was rumored to have been with teen girls and was obsessed with celibacy and temptation, but that was irrelevant to what he did. Of course he was a misogynist. He was born in 1869. He was from a culture of arranged marriages. He wasn't out to create any "sexual liberation movement or feminist movement". His purpose anti-colonialism. My grandfather and great grandfather were also the same way. They were a product of their times, culture and arranged marriages. Many Palestinian men have more than one wife. Some have three or four. So, I'm pretty sure they're misogynists too. Marriages are also arranged in Gaza.

He didn't set himself on fire.

Stuckinthebush

(11,203 posts)
21. Excellent response
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 11:38 AM
Feb 2024

And yes, self immolation has never been as effective a tool as doing the long, hard work of cultural change.

limbicnuminousity

(1,416 posts)
22. Good reply.
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 11:44 AM
Feb 2024

Gandhi is a tangent. Mother Theresa is a tangent. I mentioned them in passing and instead of addressing the subject of self-immolation the response I received chose to address the relative merits of Mother Theresa's contribution on this mortal coil. I personally DGIAF about either of them within the context of this thread. I suspect they were imperfect people struggling to do some good in the world. I have zero interest in debating whether or not they were good people.

limbicnuminousity

(1,416 posts)
16. Gandhi was a pedophile and misogynist.
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 10:52 AM
Feb 2024

They're both cultural reference points, people that Westerners tend to associate with pacifism and service.

Whatever, it's irrelevant. The West has declined to the point that we're incapable of even considering the possibility that a person might actually act in accordance with their beliefs.

Polybius

(21,862 posts)
25. I don't know if he was a pedo, but he tested the waters
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 01:28 PM
Feb 2024

He slept in the same bed naked with his nude grand-nieces when they were 18/19 to test himself. That's just nuts.

ExciteBike66

(2,700 posts)
28. I think the point was that he didn't touch them, which makes him not a pedo.
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 01:56 PM
Feb 2024

That said, it would certainly be illegal under our laws. I can't say if it was under Indian law.

LeftInTX

(34,203 posts)
29. Since they were 18/19, it would be legal here.
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 02:03 PM
Feb 2024

I really don't know the story. It seems muddled. Who knows what the age of consent in British India was back then? It was British, but they allowed very young child marriage, so who knows? I'm sure the Brits had morality police/vice units but would they really want to arrest him when they allowed alot of other stuff?

Polybius

(21,862 posts)
30. Even if he did touch them, it wouldn't make him a pedo since they were 18 and 19
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 02:04 PM
Feb 2024

I don't think it would be illegal here either since they weren't minors.

LeftInTX

(34,203 posts)
23. Aaron Bushnell...Active duty AF. Sounds like he was raised conservative, but followed free Palestine groups on FB.
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 11:47 AM
Feb 2024

Doesn't appear to have been active in protest groups.
Worked in cyber-security for the USAF.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13126695/Airforce-Aaron-Bushnell-setting-fire-DC-Israeli-Embassy.html

LeftInTX

(34,203 posts)
32. I think he was already suicidal. Might as well go out with a message.
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 03:36 PM
Feb 2024

Better than shooting up a bunch of kids first.

mahatmakanejeeves

(69,498 posts)
31. Airman dies after setting himself on fire outside Israeli Embassy in D.C.
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 02:54 PM
Feb 2024
LOCAL CRIME & PUBLIC SAFETY
Airman dies after setting himself on fire outside Israeli Embassy in D.C.

By Emily Davies, Peter Hermann, Dan Lamothe and Hannah Allam
Updated February 26, 2024 at 1:48 p.m. EST | Published February 26, 2024 at 8:10 a.m. EST



Flags and posters of kidnapped people are seen outside of the Israeli Embassy, Monday, Feb. 26, 2024, in Washington. An active-duty member of the U.S. Air Force has died after he set himself ablaze outside the Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C., while declaring that he “will no longer be complicit in genocide.” (AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein)

An active-duty airman who set himself on fire outside the Israeli Embassy on Sunday to protest U.S. support for Israel’s war in Gaza has died, a D.C. police spokesman said Monday morning.

The spokesman, Paris Lewbel, confirmed that the man was pronounced dead at a hospital Sunday night. He has been identified as 25-year-old Aaron Bushnell of San Antonio.

{snip}

Razzan Nakhlawi contributed to this report.

Seeking Serenity

(3,322 posts)
33. So let me get this straight
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 09:16 PM
Feb 2024

A soldier who advocated for a free Palestine decided to protest his government's participation in what he viewed is a genocide in a most dramatic and lethal way.

But that's not legitimate protest. He just had mental illness.

EX500rider

(12,531 posts)
34. Was he as disturbed in wars we actually participated in with many more civilians deaths?
Tue Feb 27, 2024, 04:36 PM
Feb 2024


Apparently not enough to not join the military or not resign up.

orangecrush

(30,115 posts)
35. My brother
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 12:13 AM
Feb 2024

Was stationed in DC in 1968, (Old Guard).
We had the 6 o'clock DC news on and they showed the guy who immolated himself on the Pentagon steps.
My brother started shaking and left the room.
He was fresh home from Nam.
I guess he had seen more than his share of people burned alive.
(He was combat infantry.)

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