Trump asks appeals court to stay $454 million judgment until his appeal is over

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: CNN Politics

Published 10:26 AM EST, Wed February 28, 2024


CNN — Former President Donald Trump asked a New York appeals court on Wednesday to delay his obligation to post $454 million until his appeal of the civil fraud verdict is over.

“The judgment order unprecedented and punitive disgorgement of nearly $460 million and overbroad permanent injunctive relief against Appellants in the absence of legal authority or factual support,” Trump’s attorneys wrote in the filing.

Trump has less than 30 days to post the money to prevent the New York attorney general’s office from taking steps to execute the judgment, including potentially move to seize properties. It is not yet clear how he plans to cover the payment.

“The urgency of this application is evident in light of the punitive and exorbitant disgorgement awarded against Appellants, the impact of the injunctive relief upon lawful businesses, the uncertainty created by the vague and overbroad directives Supreme Court issued, and the Attorney General’s public threats that she will seize Appellants’ real property forth with to satisfy the Judgment,” Trump’s lawyers said in the new filing.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/28/politics/donald-trump-appeals-court-new-york/index.html

[onecaliberal]

1. But, but, but, dump is so rich. Just pay it.

Why doesn’t the judge ask that question?

[bluestarone]

2. Yea, i believe that's what he said to judge Cannon

If i'm not mistaken!

[Wonder Why]

10. His stupid lawyers claimed he is so rich, he shouldn't have to post a bond so that argument should be

an instant "You you said have the money. Stopped wasting our time but if you lied on that appeal to the judge then we have some criminal charges for you".

[Ocelot II]

3. TFG claims he's extremely, vastly, spectacularly rich.

$454M should be just pocket change for someone so amazingly rich. What's he whining about? He could find that money under the sofa cushions in one of his mansions of the sort that nobody but an extremely rich person would own. I don't understand why he's complaining about posting an appeal bond that wouldn't even make a dent in his vast financial empire. It couldn't possibly be that he doesn't have the money.

[Irish_Dem]

4. Trump's entitlement is spectacular.

The rules and laws never apply to him.

[Botany]

5. In a word, "no."

Btw Trump and or the Trump Organization does not have the money needed for the civil penalties
so we can now look forward to Tish James filing liens against all of Trump’s properties in N.Y.
State.

[bluestarone]

6. Maybe time to use HIS OWN WORDS here

For $460 million, THEN you can appeal. YOU yourself used it, it's called "QUID PRO QUO"

[muriel_volestrangler]

7. "in the absence of legal authority or factual support"??? Isn't that simple denial of reality?

The judge clearly had legal authority to try the case and impose a fine, and the factual support was the evidence in the case. I can see they can try to argue about "punitive and exorbitant", because that's about the amount (as the joke goes, "we've established that, now we're just haggling over the price" ), and that has a lot more variability. Though I'd say that "the vague and overbroad directives Supreme Court issued" indicate the judge can do a lot (and if it was the Supreme Court, presumably that can't be appealed). And it's surely the AG's right to seize property if they don't pay in time. Whether the businesses are "lawful" is arguable, after the verdict ...

[Traildogbob]

8. At least

Allow him time to sell some sneakers to cover the fines.

[Marthe48]

9. They'll have to sell a lot of sneakers

I doubt the courts are going to appreciate the wording.

[gab13by13]

17. You bet,

about those sneakers, I don't buy any shoes without trying them on first. The most expensive footwear I bought were my work boots. I made sure I bought Red Wing because they were made in America. I paid a lot more for them but they were the best, The most I paid back in 2009 when I was working was around 200 dollars.

[riversedge]

26. My family always bought Red Wing boots.....and yes, they

cost a bit more but worth it if you are stomping the ground--milking the cows --bringing in the hay--or whatever all day long.
Feet are important.

[Traildogbob]

18. One million MAGA's are all that's needed

He has 60 million suckers. And they bitch about Biden making McDonalds meals $12.00 with his out of control inflation. But would sell their old truck and dog to get some Trump shoes to save his ass.

[ZonkerHarris]

11. easy denial for the judge

[Jarqui]

12. Donald Trump Claims That He's Worth $10 Billion

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-claims-hes-worth-10-billion-n392706

He said that publicly July 15, 2015

But his statements as of June 30, 2015 for Deutsche Bank say his net worth is $6,061,210,000
https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=pD64MkVE_PLUS_s7SzjoJfv0FCA==

Then NYT caught on
Then AG James caught on
Then Deutsche Bank caught on
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23132444/deutschebankletter12720.pdf

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=d7ylJtvkq2cvQBVWmZUSuw==

And suddenly, Trump is worth less than $2.5 billion for the same time period above.

I think the court should ask him to disclose his tax circumstances before considering this.

If the state waits much longer they might not see anything.

[getagrip_already]

13. No money? Broke? No credit? In debt?

Too bad, so sad.

Anyway.

Do fuck off.

[twodogsbarking]

14. Funny you should ask.

[2naSalit]

15. JFC...

The answer is NO!

Sit down, shut the fuck up and suffer the consequences of your actions. You are no specialer than anyone else, you fucking walking crime scene. Your time is up.

Oh, and fuck off, all the way off.

[Novara]

16. and that would be OH HELL NO!

[Autumn]

19. The fat fuck is entitled to an appeal. All he has to do it put up the money. And the penalty stops

accumulating . Right?

[HariSeldon]

27. No, putting up the bond means James' office can't collect

If Trump fails to put up the bond, then 30 days after the judgement is entered, she can begin collection actions to satisfy the judgement no matter what is going on in the appeal.

The interest accumulates until the penalty is paid or overruled.

[Autumn]

28. He doesn't want to put up the money for his appeal. He's running out of suckers and he knows it.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

20. TFG does not have the available cash for a bond

No lender is going to make a loan to TFG to secure a bond. I can see TFG being forced to file bankruptcy

[BumRushDaShow]

22. I don't think he had enough for the $83 million, let alone this

(and I believe you had mentioned that possibility of a bankruptcy based on the filing for that judgement! )

[LetMyPeopleVote]

29. TFG is trying to get no bond or a reduced bond in the E. Jean Carrol case

Here is the response filed by E. Jean Carroll's lawyers. It is a well done filing

Link to tweet

I doubt that Judge Kaplan or the 2n Circuit will agree to this weak bullshit

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[BumRushDaShow]

30. That one is going to have a deadline that comes first

So having difficulty to even get that doesn't bode well for a judgement that is 6 times as much!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

31. I think that The bond deadline is March 8

The briefing is scheduled to be done before the bond deadline

[BumRushDaShow]

32. Fireworks scheduled for next week!

[riversedge]

21. The Court needs to treat Trump just like any other citizen. If they do not, it will further diminish

the integrity of the courts.

[consider_this]

24. and news should not be referring to him as 'the president'!

one can say former president, or even less offensive than 'THE president' is calling him 'president ****P" but "THE president" - c'mon!!!
So sick of this crap. I just heard this shit again this morning.

[littlemissmartypants]

23. When one is asking for mercy it's never a good idea to insult the one qualified to grant it.

But because he's a psychopath he's sure that the law doesn't apply to him and is also incapable of recognizing hubris or antisocial behavior in any form. So insulting the judiciary is very on brand for him.

[flashman13]

25. But Trump is special (needs). He shouldn't have to abide by the same rules as mere mortals.