Caitlin Clark passes Pete Maravich to become all-time NCAA Division I scoring leader

[mahatmakanejeeves]

Source: Washington Post

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Caitlin Clark passes Pete Maravich to become all-time NCAA Division I scoring leader

By Chuck Culpepper
March 3, 2024 at 1:57 p.m. EST

Clark, whose No. 6 Iowa Hawkeyes faced No. 2 Ohio State on Sunday, needed 18 points to surpass Maravich for the record. Last week, the senior guard broke a pre-NCAA scoring record set by Lynette Woodard for women's major college basketball and announced her intention to enter the 2024 WNBA draft, where she's widely expected to be the No. 1 overall pick.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/03/03/caitlin-clark-iowa-senior-day/

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[twodogsbarking]

1. Clark is fantastic. Pete didn't have the benefit of the 3 pointer.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

10. And Maravich played only three seasons as

freshmen were not allowed to be on the varsity teams in those days.

Clark is a once in a generation player who can do it all and congratulations to her on reaching this milestone. She will continue to achieve great things in the WNBA!

[The Grand Illuminist]

12. Yet...

Women three pointer lines are of shorter distance.

[MichMan]

30. Not in NCAA division 1

Both mens and women's teams play in the same arenas. They don't repaint the lines back and forth.

The ball is 1" smaller and the hoop is a foot closer to the ground for the women.

[barbaraann]

2. I got to see Pete Maravich play when I was a teenager!

Some of the people in my family are tired of hearing me brag about it, so I'll brag here.

[twodogsbarking]

3. Brag on.

[barbaraann]

4. I also got to see Julius Erving play.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

26. Oh, for the days that NBA basketball was a cheap family outing

Saw so many greats in the late 70s - Maravich, Kareem, Dr J... Too young to see Wilt Chamberlain though...

[barbaraann]

28. Yes, indeed.

At least we have YouTube to relive some of those times.

[dameatball]

21. I saw Pistol Pete play at the old "Alligator Alley" in Gainesville back in the day.

Gator basketball was mediocre back then and much of the crowd just came to see Pete. I recall his passing was phenomenal.

[former9thward]

5. Good for her but she is not passing Maravich in reality.

It is just a statistic. NCAA Women's basketball does not even remotely have the defense that exists in NCAA Men's basketball. They should not be compared. And defense in men's was even better in Maravich's day than now.

[snowybirdie]

7. Sour grapes

Anyone?

[former9thward]

8. Reality for fans.

[BuddhaGirl]

15. Wet blanket, apparently

[DiceK]

18. It's ok, really!

Male athletes will survive, I promise!

[former9thward]

22. Since we are now combining the records for men and women's sports

Yes, men will do well.

[DiceK]

25. Um

You know just try and enjoy things. So many shitty things in the news. This stuff is cool, just relax!

[snowybirdie]

6. Wish I was back in Gym Class

The Gym/Health teacher told us girls only could play half court basketball so they wouldn't hurt their "child bearing organs". Ha!

[Kennah]

9. A woman can't run more than 800 meters or their uterus will fall out

No, I wasn't told that in school, but I did attend school in that era. I've read about it since as pseudo science that was uttered. Women didn't run the 1500 meter in the Olympics until 1972, and I think 1973 was the first year that women were allowed to run the Boston Marathon.

[OhioTim]

11. May Not Be Popular

but if we are going to have men's sports records broken by women are we going to have all women's records in sports like track and swimming now replaced by men?

[Renew Deal]

16. The record wasn't "replaced"

Maravich has the most points in men's college basketball and had the most points among men and women. Clark has the most points in women's college basketball and among all players.

The way the players got to the records is very different. Clark played many more games and had a three point line. Maravich's rookie year didn't count, there was no 3 point line, and the SEC was segregated. The thing that's amazing is the record lasting as long as it has, though it may be threatened on the men's side if NIL keeps players in school.

[DiceK]

17. It's ok

It’s ok to just enjoy things! What a great story!

[Iggo]

20. Don't let it bother you.

[twodogsbarking]

13. She is a pleasure to watch.

[rurallib]

14. Yes she is. Caitlin and her teammates play the game the way

it is meant to be played.

Pistol Pete also played the game that way

[moniss]

19. It's a shame so many

start to throw shade at Caitlin Clark and her career stats. You play in the era you're in. How many of the older college players on the men's side would have had even bigger careers if the NCAA hadn't banned the dunk? How much better would the women's game have progressed and players have stats if for years the NCAA and society at large hadn't crapped all over it? You can go on and on with that kind of thing and it is possibly as silly a thing to do given rule changes, academic requirement changes etc. My eyes gloss over when I hear people arguing things like baseball hitting records from now compared to the days of Gehrig and Ruth. It would be like arguing the Indy 500 from the 1950's compared to today.

I think Caitlin Clark is a great player and much about her game goes beyond her scoring. I remember a few years back when Jackie Stiles was having huge games and it wouldn't even get written about. It is typical of sports media also to constantly talk about a handful of topics/teams/players and ignore anything else. If you want to see some of the greatest performances that don't get reported or covered check out women's track and field. Watch videos of some of our teams for the US going to the Pan Am games and doing the relay events. Blows me away how exciting our teams have been. Remember something too about those women working so hard on their athletic career in track. They don't generally have big lucrative sports careers waiting for them when they graduate.

[Prairie Gates]

29. Nothing seems to provoke ass-showing on the Internet more than success at women's sports

It's a remarkable phenomenon.

[berniesandersmittens]

23. K&R nt

[Mosby]

24. This isn't exactly LBN material.

Just saying.

Something about Clark bugs me, she's a little too cocky and dominates the offense in a bad way, imo. I think when she's in the wnba her fellow team mates will have something to say about her time on ball.

[DavidDvorkin]

31. It's absolutely not LBN material.

[DiceK]

32. Yes

They will be cheering as she leads them to titles. I guess you're not a fan of Larry Bird's or Steph Curry's games?

[Mosby]

33. Stats.

Curry is averaging 17 shooting attempts per game, Bird averaged 19 career, and Clark is averaging 22 attempts for the 23-24 season, 5 games she took over 30 shots. She is shooting a whopping 47% from the field, which is good for 68th place in the current NBA season.

My point stands, she a ball hog.

[DiceK]

35. Sure

Ignore Larry Bird's 1984/85 where he won the MVP averaging 22 shots per game with fewer assists per game than Clark. He shot over 20 attempts per game 4 different seasons. Oh and in college he averaged 23 attempts per game. Curry over 20 attempts in 3 different seasons. Last years playoffs almost 24 per game.

Yup there's something about her game you don't like, you're just not saying what it actually is.

[StFrancis1]

27. CClark changes the points comparison

Firstly, the fact she is leading the country in assists, I feel, changes any comparison with Pete, she makes everyone around her better... Remember Caitlin averages 20 shots a game versus Pete's 40, and with his father as coach, there wasn't any narrative beyond Pete at LSU... they never appeared in the NCAA tournament... finished 4th in the NIT once... the SEC was segregated, so the competition pool diminished... it was wonderfully engaging, but kind of a lily white one man Loyola-Marymount...

[Mosby]

34. She also has 134 turnovers.

She has 12 against Penn st. That's pretty awful.

Averages 4.5 per game, that's more than every NBA player in the 23-24 season.

[DiceK]

36. Greatness

I would think sports fans would root or want to witness greatness regardless of what team you root for or the gender of the athlete.

I’m a Celtics fan but man I’ll miss LeBron and Curry when they retire. I’ll miss their transcendent play.

With Clark, we are witnessing greatness.

[Mosby]

37. I'm looking forward to seeing her play in the wnba

She will be a formidable offensive threat, especially playing with more capable players in the pros, her already high assist numbers could increase a lot.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

38. Caitlin Clark made the front page of the New York Times on Monday, March 7, 2022.

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Here’s a look at Monday’s front page. {You'll have to copy and paste.}

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/03/07/world/ukraine-russia-war?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes#heres-a-look-at-mondays-front-page



https://cdn.freedomforum.org/dfp/pdf7/NY_NYT.pdf

https://www.freedomforum.org/todaysfrontpages/#NY_NYT

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The 2022 post got its title from the carnage in Ukraine.

Mon Mar 7, 2022: Front page, The New York Times, Monday, March 7, 2022. Yes, disturbing.