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BumRushDaShow

(167,106 posts)
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 02:27 PM Mar 2024

A Supreme Court decision could come Monday in a case about barring Trump from the 2024 ballot

Source: AP

Updated 1:16 PM EST, March 3, 2024


WASHINGTON (AP) — A Supreme Court decision could come as soon as Monday in the case about whether former President Donald Trump can be kicked off the ballot over his efforts to undo his defeat in the 2020 election. Trump is challenging a groundbreaking decision by the Colorado Supreme Court that said he is disqualified from being president again and ineligible for the state’s primary, which is Tuesday.

The resolution of the case on Monday, a day before Super Tuesday contests in 16 states, would remove uncertainty about whether votes for Trump, the leading Republican candidate for president, will ultimately count. Both sides had requested fast work by the court, which heard arguments less than a month ago, on Feb. 8.

The Colorado court was the first to invoke a post-Civil War constitutional provision aimed at preventing those who “engaged in insurrection” from holding office. Trump also has since been barred from primary ballot in Illinois and Maine, though both decisions, along with Colorado’s, are on hold pending the outcome of the Supreme Court case.

The Supreme Court has until now never ruled on the provision, Section 3 of the 14th amendment. The court indicated Sunday there will be at least one case decided Monday, adhering to its custom of not saying which one. But it also departed from its usual practice in some respects, heightening the expectation that it’s the Trump ballot case that will be handed down.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-trump-capitol-riot-colorado-maine-d784759ab9376d4c3a6e3ae72465f448

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A Supreme Court decision could come Monday in a case about barring Trump from the 2024 ballot (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 OP
So the SC can get off its ass when it HELPS Trump. 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2024 #1
They've had that case way longer than the immunity jimfields33 Mar 2024 #6
And the Colorado Supreme Court stayed their ruling onenote Mar 2024 #8
No shit. 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2024 #10
Sophistry is the last resort of judicial scoundrels. barbaraann Mar 2024 #2
They don't dawdle when it helps Donald, do they? CousinIT Mar 2024 #3
So the extreme court wants to declare a 160 year old Constitutional amendment null and void. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2024 #4
That's what the founders would have wanted, you see Orrex Mar 2024 #24
Oh, Oh, I know... mysteryowl Mar 2024 #5
Supreme Court to release decisions on Monday, with Trump Colorado ruling a strong possibility LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2024 #7
I think it can be good news. EndlessWire Mar 2024 #9
just a question please bdamomma Mar 2024 #38
That is correct Zeitghost Mar 2024 #43
It's *really* unusual for the Court to give such little notice--or to not take the bench LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2024 #11
Well, with them taking TFG's appeal on immunity, we all pretty much KNOW what this will be. bluestarone Mar 2024 #12
What if they scheduled immunity johnnyfins Mar 2024 #28
WIN/WIN Scenario SomewhereInTheMiddle Mar 2024 #34
Never mind ... SomewhereInTheMiddle Mar 2024 #37
Gee, I wonder how the Scummy Six will rule? wolfie001 Mar 2024 #13
It won't be just the six, trust me Polybius Mar 2024 #23
I would love to see protests at the supreme court that Thomas is not recusing himself from these cases. Novara Mar 2024 #14
You got that right!! bluestarone Mar 2024 #15
Well said. c-rational Mar 2024 #18
I am so pissed off bdamomma Mar 2024 #39
Democracy can withstand a lot of things but Blue Idaho Mar 2024 #16
They are going to vote in his favor kimbutgar Mar 2024 #17
I don't care what the Subversive Corrupt Court of the U.S. decides. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2024 #19
We need 6 more liberal justices. Bluethroughu Mar 2024 #22
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2024 #20
Every layman has read it, and what it clearly states and Bluethroughu Mar 2024 #21
If they find some reason why Colorado can't keep him off the primary ballot... William Seger Mar 2024 #25
Surprise us. Rule that 14th Amendment is moot because trump is unfit for office and Silent Type Mar 2024 #26
3 options AncientOfDays Mar 2024 #27
Gee...what do we think will happen? Nothing. I'm sure the rw bastards were paid off long ago for this. C Moon Mar 2024 #29
The day before Super Tuesday, of course. Kablooie Mar 2024 #30
Except that Biden is Current POTUS & can throw the Con's ass in jail onetexan Mar 2024 #31
Highly doubt he would throw Biden in jail. The Grand Illuminist Mar 2024 #32
The only consolation here is that Trump is probably the most beatable Republican candidate Bucky Mar 2024 #33
We will beat bdamomma Mar 2024 #40
As if we didn't already know what these hypocrites'decision will be. n/t msfiddlestix Mar 2024 #35
SCOTUS is corrupt if they don't rule Trump ineligible. Kid Berwyn Mar 2024 #36
It has with no surprise. republianmushroom Mar 2024 #41
So, if the US Supreme Court (a joke in my mind) declares the Colorado tRUMP can't run void, then when does the SWBTATTReg Mar 2024 #42
After a federal conviction of insurrection Zeitghost Mar 2024 #44
According to the verbiage, no conviction is required. And I also am wondering about a morals clause, don't SWBTATTReg Mar 2024 #45
Meeting a congressionally established determination is required Zeitghost Mar 2024 #46

CousinIT

(12,357 posts)
3. They don't dawdle when it helps Donald, do they?
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 02:36 PM
Mar 2024


Regardless, Trump will be on the ballot. I don't give a rat about this (because we all know they will not do what the Constitution says and keep him off of it) except to note that they will decide to get their asses in gear to help their sociopath dictator.

mysteryowl

(8,733 posts)
5. Oh, Oh, I know...
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 03:34 PM
Mar 2024

it will be in turmps favor. They won't remove him from the ballot, which is why they are speedy on this one.

Corrupt court!

LetMyPeopleVote

(176,683 posts)
7. Supreme Court to release decisions on Monday, with Trump Colorado ruling a strong possibility
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 03:43 PM
Mar 2024

Tomorrow may be interesting. I want to see if there are dissents



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-release-decisions-monday-trump-colorado-ruling-strong-po-rcna141567

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court has indicated it will issue rulings on Monday, one of which could be the highly anticipated decision on whether Colorado can kick former President Donald Trump off the primary ballot.

The court noted on its website on Sunday afternoon that rulings are expected.

Trump is currently set to appear on the state primary ballot on Tuesday after a hold was placed on the Colorado Supreme Court ruling that deemed him ineligible due to his efforts to defy the 2020 election results.

The U.S. Supreme Court held oral arguments on Feb. 8 on whether Trump can be barred from the ballot because of his role leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol. Section 3 of the Constitution’s 14th Amendment says people are not eligible to serve in government if they “engaged in insurrection.” It appeared from the oral argument that Trump would win the case.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
9. I think it can be good news.
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 03:47 PM
Mar 2024

The primary is on Tuesday, so they have to get the results in there about whether they have to count votes for Donald. So, I think it's still 50/50. This will indicate whether they think that Donald is a traitor. Excuse me, an insurrectionist.

bdamomma

(69,346 posts)
38. just a question please
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 10:38 AM
Mar 2024

but didn't the Colorado Judges also mention that he was insurrectionist, but the SC did not mention if he was or was not.?

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
43. That is correct
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 01:50 PM
Mar 2024

The Supreme Court has not and will not determine if Trump or anyone else engaged in insurrection. They are not a trial court.

bluestarone

(21,632 posts)
12. Well, with them taking TFG's appeal on immunity, we all pretty much KNOW what this will be.
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 05:34 PM
Mar 2024

Kinda like DUH! Why would they decide to remove him from the ballots, when one corner of their mouth they say we,ll decide immunity in APRIL?? They WILL alow his name on the ballots. No doubt in my mind.

johnnyfins

(3,569 posts)
28. What if they scheduled immunity
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 12:38 AM
Mar 2024

Case for April, because they ARE barring him from running and the trial timeline is meaningless?

34. WIN/WIN Scenario
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 08:15 AM
Mar 2024

I could see the court deciding that Trump is ineligible for office and then ruling that he - and ONLY he - had immunity for crimes committed in (and after) office.

That would mean Trump will never be president again but would not go to jail.

Probably the end state Trump most wants. And one that the rest of us would grudgingly accept.

I don't think any of that would be legal (except keeping him out of office), but it would solve a lot of problems.

Which means it is unlikely to happen.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
14. I would love to see protests at the supreme court that Thomas is not recusing himself from these cases.
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 06:03 PM
Mar 2024

There's no way he should be involved. No fucking way.

bluestarone

(21,632 posts)
15. You got that right!!
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 06:21 PM
Mar 2024

Never thought i would see THIS SC so OWNED!! RELIGION and MONEY!! TFG along with the help of Mitch McConnell, DESTROYED Democracy as we knew it! I don't know the end game here for our country, BUT all we can do at the moment is VOTE LIKE HELL!!

bdamomma

(69,346 posts)
39. I am so pissed off
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 10:44 AM
Mar 2024

do they think we are that stupid. Senator Whitehouse has been a fighter on this right along regarding dark money and Leonard Leo, Opus Dei influences. Crap that jerk McConnell that bastard, he did this too.

Blue Idaho

(5,500 posts)
16. Democracy can withstand a lot of things but
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 08:49 PM
Mar 2024

It can’t survive crooked courts. They will distort destroy the intent of the constitution.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
19. I don't care what the Subversive Corrupt Court of the U.S. decides.
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 09:22 PM
Mar 2024

It has proven that it ignores the Consitution, law, logic, precedent, and consequences in its quest to advance its extreme ideology. We are a nation under attack so long as this court legislates for RW extremists.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
21. Every layman has read it, and what it clearly states and
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 09:27 PM
Mar 2024

What it does not state.

Will they wipe their butt with the Constitution or stand strong for the rule of law?

I do not trust judgement, because their bought and paid for RVs, real estate, tuition, trips, parental lifestyles, and significant others' jobs , from their billionaire benefactors making money from cases they will not recuse from.

William Seger

(12,273 posts)
25. If they find some reason why Colorado can't keep him off the primary ballot...
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 10:31 PM
Mar 2024

... then they damn well better explain how the 14th can be enforced. Just ignoring it is not an option.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
26. Surprise us. Rule that 14th Amendment is moot because trump is unfit for office and
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 10:38 PM
Mar 2024

subject to a firing squad for insurrection.

AncientOfDays

(258 posts)
27. 3 options
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 11:57 PM
Mar 2024

1 - they declare him ineligible
2 - they say doesn't apply to him
or (this is what I think will happen)
3 - they will kick the can down the road - say something else has to be adjudicated/etc.

Kablooie

(19,075 posts)
30. The day before Super Tuesday, of course.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 02:43 AM
Mar 2024

I’ll bet the immunity decision won’t come until a day after the election.
That’s if the decision is that he’s not immune.

But they might decide he IS immune from prosecution, yes they might.
Then it will be released much earlier and if Trump wins, he will be totally free from any consequences no matter what he does.
He could even throw Biden in jail, in defiance of this decision, and no one could do anything to him.






onetexan

(13,913 posts)
31. Except that Biden is Current POTUS & can throw the Con's ass in jail
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 03:09 AM
Mar 2024

You forget any decision on presidential immunity will apply to current POTUS as well.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
33. The only consolation here is that Trump is probably the most beatable Republican candidate
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 04:55 AM
Mar 2024

But the Supreme Court is effectively nullifying the 14th Amendment's insurrection clause. That's not within their power. Tactically, it's better for us to have Trump to run against. But chucking the law for convenience's sake is almost as bad as the SCOTUS chucking the Constitution for the sake of loyalty to a fascist cult of personality.

bdamomma

(69,346 posts)
40. We will beat
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 10:54 AM
Mar 2024

his ass!!!!! but you never know we have now to November, anything can happen. I leave it at that.

Kid Berwyn

(23,631 posts)
36. SCOTUS is corrupt if they don't rule Trump ineligible.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 09:10 AM
Mar 2024
Fourteenth Amendment Equal Protection and Other Rights

Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office


No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

SWBTATTReg

(26,144 posts)
42. So, if the US Supreme Court (a joke in my mind) declares the Colorado tRUMP can't run void, then when does the
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 01:16 PM
Mar 2024

stupid insurrection clause ever take effect? This is WRONG.

SWBTATTReg

(26,144 posts)
45. According to the verbiage, no conviction is required. And I also am wondering about a morals clause, don't
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 01:56 PM
Mar 2024

any of these require at least a standing of good morals?

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
46. Meeting a congressionally established determination is required
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 02:02 PM
Mar 2024

A criminal conviction for a relevant federal crime under a congressionally established law (like the Insurrection Act) would be one way to make that determination. An act of Congress or impeachment conviction would likely be others.

The decision of a state court in a civil trial is not. The Supreme Court, including three outstanding liberal justices made that very clear.

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