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BumRushDaShow

(129,055 posts)
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 03:27 PM Mar 3

A Supreme Court decision could come Monday in a case about barring Trump from the 2024 ballot

Source: AP

Updated 1:16 PM EST, March 3, 2024


WASHINGTON (AP) — A Supreme Court decision could come as soon as Monday in the case about whether former President Donald Trump can be kicked off the ballot over his efforts to undo his defeat in the 2020 election. Trump is challenging a groundbreaking decision by the Colorado Supreme Court that said he is disqualified from being president again and ineligible for the state’s primary, which is Tuesday.

The resolution of the case on Monday, a day before Super Tuesday contests in 16 states, would remove uncertainty about whether votes for Trump, the leading Republican candidate for president, will ultimately count. Both sides had requested fast work by the court, which heard arguments less than a month ago, on Feb. 8.

The Colorado court was the first to invoke a post-Civil War constitutional provision aimed at preventing those who “engaged in insurrection” from holding office. Trump also has since been barred from primary ballot in Illinois and Maine, though both decisions, along with Colorado’s, are on hold pending the outcome of the Supreme Court case.

The Supreme Court has until now never ruled on the provision, Section 3 of the 14th amendment. The court indicated Sunday there will be at least one case decided Monday, adhering to its custom of not saying which one. But it also departed from its usual practice in some respects, heightening the expectation that it’s the Trump ballot case that will be handed down.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-trump-capitol-riot-colorado-maine-d784759ab9376d4c3a6e3ae72465f448

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A Supreme Court decision could come Monday in a case about barring Trump from the 2024 ballot (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 3 OP
So the SC can get off its ass when it HELPS Trump. 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 3 #1
They've had that case way longer than the immunity jimfields33 Mar 3 #6
And the Colorado Supreme Court stayed their ruling onenote Mar 3 #8
No shit. 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 3 #10
Sophistry is the last resort of judicial scoundrels. barbaraann Mar 3 #2
They don't dawdle when it helps Donald, do they? CousinIT Mar 3 #3
So the extreme court wants to declare a 160 year old Constitutional amendment null and void. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 3 #4
That's what the founders would have wanted, you see Orrex Mar 3 #24
Oh, Oh, I know... mysteryowl Mar 3 #5
Supreme Court to release decisions on Monday, with Trump Colorado ruling a strong possibility LetMyPeopleVote Mar 3 #7
I think it can be good news. EndlessWire Mar 3 #9
just a question please bdamomma Mar 4 #38
That is correct Zeitghost Mar 4 #43
It's *really* unusual for the Court to give such little notice--or to not take the bench LetMyPeopleVote Mar 3 #11
Well, with them taking TFG's appeal on immunity, we all pretty much KNOW what this will be. bluestarone Mar 3 #12
What if they scheduled immunity johnnyfins Mar 4 #28
WIN/WIN Scenario SomewhereInTheMiddle Mar 4 #34
Never mind ... SomewhereInTheMiddle Mar 4 #37
Gee, I wonder how the Scummy Six will rule? wolfie001 Mar 3 #13
It won't be just the six, trust me Polybius Mar 3 #23
I would love to see protests at the supreme court that Thomas is not recusing himself from these cases. Novara Mar 3 #14
You got that right!! bluestarone Mar 3 #15
Well said. c-rational Mar 3 #18
I am so pissed off bdamomma Mar 4 #39
Democracy can withstand a lot of things but Blue Idaho Mar 3 #16
They are going to vote in his favor kimbutgar Mar 3 #17
I don't care what the Subversive Corrupt Court of the U.S. decides. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 3 #19
We need 6 more liberal justices. Bluethroughu Mar 3 #22
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Mar 3 #20
Every layman has read it, and what it clearly states and Bluethroughu Mar 3 #21
If they find some reason why Colorado can't keep him off the primary ballot... William Seger Mar 3 #25
Surprise us. Rule that 14th Amendment is moot because trump is unfit for office and Silent Type Mar 3 #26
3 options AncientOfDays Mar 4 #27
Gee...what do we think will happen? Nothing. I'm sure the rw bastards were paid off long ago for this. C Moon Mar 4 #29
The day before Super Tuesday, of course. Kablooie Mar 4 #30
Except that Biden is Current POTUS & can throw the Con's ass in jail onetexan Mar 4 #31
Highly doubt he would throw Biden in jail. The Grand Illuminist Mar 4 #32
The only consolation here is that Trump is probably the most beatable Republican candidate Bucky Mar 4 #33
We will beat bdamomma Mar 4 #40
As if we didn't already know what these hypocrites'decision will be. n/t msfiddlestix Mar 4 #35
SCOTUS is corrupt if they don't rule Trump ineligible. Kid Berwyn Mar 4 #36
It has with no surprise. republianmushroom Mar 4 #41
So, if the US Supreme Court (a joke in my mind) declares the Colorado tRUMP can't run void, then when does the SWBTATTReg Mar 4 #42
After a federal conviction of insurrection Zeitghost Mar 4 #44
According to the verbiage, no conviction is required. And I also am wondering about a morals clause, don't SWBTATTReg Mar 4 #45
Meeting a congressionally established determination is required Zeitghost Mar 4 #46

barbaraann

(9,151 posts)
2. Sophistry is the last resort of judicial scoundrels.
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 03:31 PM
Mar 3

Last edited Sun Mar 3, 2024, 04:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Last refuge of scoundrels works, too.

CousinIT

(9,245 posts)
3. They don't dawdle when it helps Donald, do they?
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 03:36 PM
Mar 3


Regardless, Trump will be on the ballot. I don't give a rat about this (because we all know they will not do what the Constitution says and keep him off of it) except to note that they will decide to get their asses in gear to help their sociopath dictator.

mysteryowl

(7,390 posts)
5. Oh, Oh, I know...
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 04:34 PM
Mar 3

it will be in turmps favor. They won't remove him from the ballot, which is why they are speedy on this one.

Corrupt court!

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,291 posts)
7. Supreme Court to release decisions on Monday, with Trump Colorado ruling a strong possibility
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 04:43 PM
Mar 3

Tomorrow may be interesting. I want to see if there are dissents



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-release-decisions-monday-trump-colorado-ruling-strong-po-rcna141567

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court has indicated it will issue rulings on Monday, one of which could be the highly anticipated decision on whether Colorado can kick former President Donald Trump off the primary ballot.

The court noted on its website on Sunday afternoon that rulings are expected.

Trump is currently set to appear on the state primary ballot on Tuesday after a hold was placed on the Colorado Supreme Court ruling that deemed him ineligible due to his efforts to defy the 2020 election results.

The U.S. Supreme Court held oral arguments on Feb. 8 on whether Trump can be barred from the ballot because of his role leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol. Section 3 of the Constitution’s 14th Amendment says people are not eligible to serve in government if they “engaged in insurrection.” It appeared from the oral argument that Trump would win the case.

EndlessWire

(6,536 posts)
9. I think it can be good news.
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 04:47 PM
Mar 3

The primary is on Tuesday, so they have to get the results in there about whether they have to count votes for Donald. So, I think it's still 50/50. This will indicate whether they think that Donald is a traitor. Excuse me, an insurrectionist.

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
38. just a question please
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:38 AM
Mar 4

but didn't the Colorado Judges also mention that he was insurrectionist, but the SC did not mention if he was or was not.?

Zeitghost

(3,862 posts)
43. That is correct
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 02:50 PM
Mar 4

The Supreme Court has not and will not determine if Trump or anyone else engaged in insurrection. They are not a trial court.

bluestarone

(16,959 posts)
12. Well, with them taking TFG's appeal on immunity, we all pretty much KNOW what this will be.
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 06:34 PM
Mar 3

Kinda like DUH! Why would they decide to remove him from the ballots, when one corner of their mouth they say we,ll decide immunity in APRIL?? They WILL alow his name on the ballots. No doubt in my mind.

johnnyfins

(823 posts)
28. What if they scheduled immunity
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 01:38 AM
Mar 4

Case for April, because they ARE barring him from running and the trial timeline is meaningless?

34. WIN/WIN Scenario
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 09:15 AM
Mar 4

I could see the court deciding that Trump is ineligible for office and then ruling that he - and ONLY he - had immunity for crimes committed in (and after) office.

That would mean Trump will never be president again but would not go to jail.

Probably the end state Trump most wants. And one that the rest of us would grudgingly accept.

I don't think any of that would be legal (except keeping him out of office), but it would solve a lot of problems.

Which means it is unlikely to happen.

Novara

(5,842 posts)
14. I would love to see protests at the supreme court that Thomas is not recusing himself from these cases.
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 07:03 PM
Mar 3

There's no way he should be involved. No fucking way.

bluestarone

(16,959 posts)
15. You got that right!!
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 07:21 PM
Mar 3

Never thought i would see THIS SC so OWNED!! RELIGION and MONEY!! TFG along with the help of Mitch McConnell, DESTROYED Democracy as we knew it! I don't know the end game here for our country, BUT all we can do at the moment is VOTE LIKE HELL!!

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
39. I am so pissed off
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:44 AM
Mar 4

do they think we are that stupid. Senator Whitehouse has been a fighter on this right along regarding dark money and Leonard Leo, Opus Dei influences. Crap that jerk McConnell that bastard, he did this too.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
16. Democracy can withstand a lot of things but
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 09:49 PM
Mar 3

It can’t survive crooked courts. They will distort destroy the intent of the constitution.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
19. I don't care what the Subversive Corrupt Court of the U.S. decides.
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 10:22 PM
Mar 3

It has proven that it ignores the Consitution, law, logic, precedent, and consequences in its quest to advance its extreme ideology. We are a nation under attack so long as this court legislates for RW extremists.

Bluethroughu

(5,172 posts)
21. Every layman has read it, and what it clearly states and
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 10:27 PM
Mar 3

What it does not state.

Will they wipe their butt with the Constitution or stand strong for the rule of law?

I do not trust judgement, because their bought and paid for RVs, real estate, tuition, trips, parental lifestyles, and significant others' jobs , from their billionaire benefactors making money from cases they will not recuse from.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
25. If they find some reason why Colorado can't keep him off the primary ballot...
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 11:31 PM
Mar 3

... then they damn well better explain how the 14th can be enforced. Just ignoring it is not an option.

Silent Type

(2,906 posts)
26. Surprise us. Rule that 14th Amendment is moot because trump is unfit for office and
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 11:38 PM
Mar 3

subject to a firing squad for insurrection.

AncientOfDays

(163 posts)
27. 3 options
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 12:57 AM
Mar 4

1 - they declare him ineligible
2 - they say doesn't apply to him
or (this is what I think will happen)
3 - they will kick the can down the road - say something else has to be adjudicated/etc.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
30. The day before Super Tuesday, of course.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 03:43 AM
Mar 4

I’ll bet the immunity decision won’t come until a day after the election.
That’s if the decision is that he’s not immune.

But they might decide he IS immune from prosecution, yes they might.
Then it will be released much earlier and if Trump wins, he will be totally free from any consequences no matter what he does.
He could even throw Biden in jail, in defiance of this decision, and no one could do anything to him.






onetexan

(13,041 posts)
31. Except that Biden is Current POTUS & can throw the Con's ass in jail
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 04:09 AM
Mar 4

You forget any decision on presidential immunity will apply to current POTUS as well.

Bucky

(54,014 posts)
33. The only consolation here is that Trump is probably the most beatable Republican candidate
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 05:55 AM
Mar 4

But the Supreme Court is effectively nullifying the 14th Amendment's insurrection clause. That's not within their power. Tactically, it's better for us to have Trump to run against. But chucking the law for convenience's sake is almost as bad as the SCOTUS chucking the Constitution for the sake of loyalty to a fascist cult of personality.

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
40. We will beat
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:54 AM
Mar 4

his ass!!!!! but you never know we have now to November, anything can happen. I leave it at that.

Kid Berwyn

(14,907 posts)
36. SCOTUS is corrupt if they don't rule Trump ineligible.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 10:10 AM
Mar 4
Fourteenth Amendment Equal Protection and Other Rights

Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office


No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

SWBTATTReg

(22,130 posts)
42. So, if the US Supreme Court (a joke in my mind) declares the Colorado tRUMP can't run void, then when does the
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 02:16 PM
Mar 4

stupid insurrection clause ever take effect? This is WRONG.

SWBTATTReg

(22,130 posts)
45. According to the verbiage, no conviction is required. And I also am wondering about a morals clause, don't
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 02:56 PM
Mar 4

any of these require at least a standing of good morals?

Zeitghost

(3,862 posts)
46. Meeting a congressionally established determination is required
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 03:02 PM
Mar 4

A criminal conviction for a relevant federal crime under a congressionally established law (like the Insurrection Act) would be one way to make that determination. An act of Congress or impeachment conviction would likely be others.

The decision of a state court in a civil trial is not. The Supreme Court, including three outstanding liberal justices made that very clear.

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