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Polybius

(15,417 posts)
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:26 PM Mar 19

Supreme Court allows Texas to enforce immigration law

Source: NBC News

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Tuesday allowed Texas to enforce a contentious new law that gives local police the power to arrest migrants.

The conservative-majority court, with three liberal justices dissenting, rejected an emergency request by the Biden administration, which said states have no authority to legislate on immigration, an issue the federal government has sole authority over.

That means the law can go into effect while litigation continues in lower courts. It could still be blocked at a later date.

"The court gives a green light to a law that will upend the longstanding federal-state balance of power and sow chaos," liberal Justice Sonia Sotomayor wrote in a dissenting opinion.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-allows-texas-enforce-immigration-law-rcna142971

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Supreme Court allows Texas to enforce immigration law (Original Post) Polybius Mar 19 OP
Nina Turner, Susan Sarandon's, David Sirota, Cornell West, Eddie Glaude, Brihana Joy Gray, and all the other jackasses JohnSJ Mar 19 #1
Everyone on the Left who refused to vote for Hillary in the swing states owns this elocs Mar 21 #38
The supreme court needs to be rebalanced; area51 Mar 19 #2
Gee, and how did SCOTUS ever get unbalanced? n/t elocs Mar 21 #39
Refuse to accept any detainees or allow any crossing of state held detainees. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 19 #3
How would that be done? Polybius Mar 19 #4
Are they moving federal employees off federal property at the border crossings? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 19 #13
They can't do that ripcord Mar 19 #7
You're right, of course - the problem is that Abutt is just ITCHING to have a "shootout with the Feds" peppertree Mar 19 #9
Exactly Polybius Mar 19 #26
Abbott is stupid NanaCat Mar 19 #31
Good point peppertree Mar 19 #33
Awful!!! LeftInTX Mar 19 #5
Why does the Supreme Court hate America? BootinUp Mar 19 #6
Why do SIX PEOPLE on the Supreme Court hate America? ShazzieB Mar 19 #16
Because that's what traitors do. NanaCat Mar 19 #32
Who's going to pay to confine the migrants? tom_kelly Mar 19 #8
The feds need to tell them NanaCat Mar 19 #30
Its legal to sell pot in lots of states yet its still illegal federally Cheezoholic Mar 19 #10
wehave no real rule of law anymore moonshinegnomie Mar 19 #11
The Supreme Court is playing "Calvinball" perdita9 Mar 19 #12
Is it the states have power to decided these issues today but not tomorrow because the states ... usaf-vet Mar 19 #14
So according to SCOTUS, states can act as federal on immigration Mr.WeRP Mar 19 #15
DAMN THIS COURT. ancianita Mar 19 #17
A couple of questions Enquiring_Mind Mar 19 #18
If they committed a crime, then they are referred to the feds. LeftInTX Mar 19 #22
Well, now the onus will be on Texas courts NanaCat Mar 19 #29
The Roberts Court is now a total joke. Rules for making a sinkingfeeling Mar 19 #19
I too lost faith in the Court with Bush v. Gore. The beginning of the end of rule of law. nt SunSeeker Mar 19 #21
THIS decision SCARES the shit out of me. bluestarone Mar 19 #20
Wouldn't be surprised if Abbott starts separating families now. SunSeeker Mar 19 #23
Cut the Federal Money OFF nwliberalkiwi Mar 19 #24
A gradual draw down of federal immigration support NanaCat Mar 19 #28
The Supreme Court just kicked the legs out from under ALL Politicub Mar 19 #25
So they don't need Customs and Border Patrol? NanaCat Mar 19 #27
Appeals court stops it - yay! lark Mar 20 #34
Huh? Polybius Mar 20 #35
It wasn't a decision on the merits FBaggins Mar 20 #37
But we can "trust the SC. They're not helping Tump or other Republicans." BlueKota Mar 20 #36

JohnSJ

(92,190 posts)
1. Nina Turner, Susan Sarandon's, David Sirota, Cornell West, Eddie Glaude, Brihana Joy Gray, and all the other jackasses
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:39 PM
Mar 19

who refused to vote for Hillary in the general election in 2016, YOU OWN THIS, along with the overturning of Roe, the whittling down of the voting rights act, etc. etc. etc.

elocs

(22,577 posts)
38. Everyone on the Left who refused to vote for Hillary in the swing states owns this
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 04:54 AM
Mar 21

as well as giving us the national nightmare of Trump. In 2016 there were only 2 people who could win the presidential election: either Hillary Clinton or Trump. That's it. So any Democrat or voter on the Left who did not vote for Hillary in the swing states only helped Trump. It's choices and consequences: you made the choice and the rest of us who did vote for Hillary as well as many others have suffered the consequences. Nice job.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,328 posts)
3. Refuse to accept any detainees or allow any crossing of state held detainees.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:47 PM
Mar 19

And arrest the first motherfucker who tries deporting a detainee.

peppertree

(21,635 posts)
9. You're right, of course - the problem is that Abutt is just ITCHING to have a "shootout with the Feds"
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:43 PM
Mar 19

It's what his radicalized mouth-breathers fantasize with, day and night (besides underage cousins).

NanaCat

(1,128 posts)
31. Abbott is stupid
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 10:59 PM
Mar 19

Because there's a far easier and violence-free way to make him regret taking this path:

Putting the onus of all immigrant arrests Texas makes on Texas. They will need to house the detainees until their kangaroo hearings, conduct the kangaroo hearings, and then pay the costs of the deportation, too. State arrests? Then state money needs to pay for it all, and not one dime from the feds for it.

Texas doesn't have enough law enforcement officers to provide border patrol and address normal LEO duties, too--and even if they could provide the personnel, they don't and won't have the money to pay for it all.

Let him learn it the hard way.

peppertree

(21,635 posts)
33. Good point
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:19 PM
Mar 19

I bet he wishes he could do what Nutnyahoo does: ethnic cleansing.

But as this isn't a rogue state, he'll try to ship'em to some blue state - and if that fails, he'll dump'em in the streets of Houston or Dallas.

Cities which, to many TX Republicans, have been "lost" anyway.

ShazzieB

(16,399 posts)
16. Why do SIX PEOPLE on the Supreme Court hate America?
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 04:52 PM
Mar 19

It must suck to be one of the liberal minority right now. Jackson, Kagan, and Sotomayor are powerless to stop the majority from doing horrible things. I'm glad they are there to write well-reasoned dissents to the crazy ass decisions the others come up with, but Biden REALLY needs to expand the court in his second term, before the Sucky Six drag this country down any further than they already have!

tom_kelly

(960 posts)
8. Who's going to pay to confine the migrants?
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:38 PM
Mar 19

If the feds are on the hook for that, there will be a lot of money to be made down there.

NanaCat

(1,128 posts)
30. The feds need to tell them
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 10:54 PM
Mar 19

Your arrests, your court jurisdiction, not ours.

Make them cover the costs of hearings and housing until the hearings, and processing and transporting them for deportation.

Hey--give them what they want, control over the immigration process...and all the costs associated with it, too.

Cheezoholic

(2,023 posts)
10. Its legal to sell pot in lots of states yet its still illegal federally
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:44 PM
Mar 19

Not agreeing just sayin'. I know what Sotomayor is saying but in my simple minded law world it would seem we better legalize pot at the federal level pretty quick if we want to honestly retain federal law is the final law of the land. Or maybe it works in some way I don't get.

moonshinegnomie

(2,452 posts)
11. wehave no real rule of law anymore
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:47 PM
Mar 19

the supreme court and the far right rule by fiat no matter what teh majority wants. Its high time for drastic action.
start by cutting texas off from any federal money. (and i live in texas). for instance the massive wild fires in norther texas? no federal aid. not 1 one penny. If texas can afford to waste money on its immigration crackdown it can afford to pay its own way 100%

perdita9

(1,144 posts)
12. The Supreme Court is playing "Calvinball"
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 04:05 PM
Mar 19

There are no rules anymore--it's just whatever they want to make up.

usaf-vet

(6,186 posts)
14. Is it the states have power to decided these issues today but not tomorrow because the states ...
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 04:48 PM
Mar 19

..... have to leave THAT to us smarter men to make those decisions. Which is it, you hypocritical SCOTUS idiots?

Ladies, get back in the kitchen and shut up.

Mr.WeRP

(89 posts)
15. So according to SCOTUS, states can act as federal on immigration
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 04:48 PM
Mar 19

But can’t on elections even though the Constitution explicitly gives the states that right. 🤔

 

Enquiring_Mind

(83 posts)
18. A couple of questions
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 05:23 PM
Mar 19

What happened previously when local police encountered migrants who were not here legally? Detain until they could turn them over to the federal authorities?

Now when local police arrest them, will they be processed differently than if arrested by federal authorities?

NanaCat

(1,128 posts)
29. Well, now the onus will be on Texas courts
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 10:51 PM
Mar 19

To decide who stays and who goes.

Make them pay for that, rather than the feds.

They want the control? Well, they can pay for the privilege of it.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
19. The Roberts Court is now a total joke. Rules for making a
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 05:25 PM
Mar 19

decision change daily. I lost faith in the SCOTUS to do the correct, Constitutional thing after Bush vs. Gore and it's been downhill since.

bluestarone

(16,941 posts)
20. THIS decision SCARES the shit out of me.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 05:28 PM
Mar 19

Look out when it comes to TFG's FUTURE decisions!!! Holy fuck!!

SunSeeker

(51,558 posts)
23. Wouldn't be surprised if Abbott starts separating families now.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 05:52 PM
Mar 19

He's a sadistic fuck.

The right wing 6 on SCOTUS sure can move quickly when they want a particular outcome.

nwliberalkiwi

(367 posts)
24. Cut the Federal Money OFF
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 06:06 PM
Mar 19

Time to cut the Federal funds off and move the military bases out of Texas. Block off all Federal Highways at the Texas Boarder. No airplanes or trains over the Texas Boarder. Personally I'd kick them out of the Union. No Social Security checks for Texans. Let's make Texas a bigger hell hole than it already is!!! Just a modest proposal.

NanaCat

(1,128 posts)
28. A gradual draw down of federal immigration support
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 10:49 PM
Mar 19

Would do the job without cratering the economy far beyond the borders of Texas.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
25. The Supreme Court just kicked the legs out from under ALL
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 06:48 PM
Mar 19

federal laws. This won’t stop at immigration.

I am afraid. And angry.

NanaCat

(1,128 posts)
27. So they don't need Customs and Border Patrol?
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 10:41 PM
Mar 19

Then why have the feds doing it. Let the Texans take it over.

All of it. Including the expense of it. But we won't do that, because the cratering of the Texas economy from the loss of that sweet, sweet federal cash would bring down the rest of the country, too.

On the other hand, a gradual, but emphatic, withdrawal of federal border funds would still send a message: You don't need us handling migrants? Good. We have better ways to spend this bit of federal money...And, oh, this bit, too... And now this, this and this...

And--what's that? You want your funding back? But we're giving you what you wanted, which was securing the border yourselves. Why do you want our help now, when you said you could do it so much better than we could?

So show us all how it's done. We eagerly await the results. Just don't expect us to provide the lion's share of the funding for it if you want the lion's share of the control.

FBaggins

(26,739 posts)
37. It wasn't a decision on the merits
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 07:26 PM
Mar 20

SCOTUS wasn't asked "will you block this law?" - They were asked "the 5th circuit said that the law could be enforced while they wait to hear the case... will you force them to change their mind?". SCOTUS said no... but they didn't say that the 5th circuit couldn't change their own mind (which they have done because the oral arguments begin today)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/appeals-court-blocks-texas-immigration-law-supreme-court-action-rcna144193

BlueKota

(1,732 posts)
36. But we can "trust the SC. They're not helping Tump or other Republicans."
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 07:18 PM
Mar 20

"That's conspiracy theory territory." Bullcrap those 6 clowns don't know the Constitution from their own butts.

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