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Polybius

(21,631 posts)
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 01:26 PM Mar 2024

Supreme Court allows Texas to enforce immigration law

Source: NBC News

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Tuesday allowed Texas to enforce a contentious new law that gives local police the power to arrest migrants.

The conservative-majority court, with three liberal justices dissenting, rejected an emergency request by the Biden administration, which said states have no authority to legislate on immigration, an issue the federal government has sole authority over.

That means the law can go into effect while litigation continues in lower courts. It could still be blocked at a later date.

"The court gives a green light to a law that will upend the longstanding federal-state balance of power and sow chaos," liberal Justice Sonia Sotomayor wrote in a dissenting opinion.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-allows-texas-enforce-immigration-law-rcna142971

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Supreme Court allows Texas to enforce immigration law (Original Post) Polybius Mar 2024 OP
Nina Turner, Susan Sarandon's, David Sirota, Cornell West, Eddie Glaude, Brihana Joy Gray, and all the other jackasses JohnSJ Mar 2024 #1
Everyone on the Left who refused to vote for Hillary in the swing states owns this elocs Mar 2024 #38
The supreme court needs to be rebalanced; area51 Mar 2024 #2
Gee, and how did SCOTUS ever get unbalanced? n/t elocs Mar 2024 #39
Refuse to accept any detainees or allow any crossing of state held detainees. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2024 #3
How would that be done? Polybius Mar 2024 #4
Are they moving federal employees off federal property at the border crossings? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2024 #13
They can't do that ripcord Mar 2024 #7
You're right, of course - the problem is that Abutt is just ITCHING to have a "shootout with the Feds" peppertree Mar 2024 #9
Exactly Polybius Mar 2024 #26
Abbott is stupid NanaCat Mar 2024 #31
Good point peppertree Mar 2024 #33
Awful!!! LeftInTX Mar 2024 #5
Why does the Supreme Court hate America? BootinUp Mar 2024 #6
Why do SIX PEOPLE on the Supreme Court hate America? ShazzieB Mar 2024 #16
Because that's what traitors do. NanaCat Mar 2024 #32
Who's going to pay to confine the migrants? tom_kelly Mar 2024 #8
The feds need to tell them NanaCat Mar 2024 #30
Its legal to sell pot in lots of states yet its still illegal federally Cheezoholic Mar 2024 #10
wehave no real rule of law anymore moonshinegnomie Mar 2024 #11
The Supreme Court is playing "Calvinball" perdita9 Mar 2024 #12
Is it the states have power to decided these issues today but not tomorrow because the states ... usaf-vet Mar 2024 #14
So according to SCOTUS, states can act as federal on immigration Mr.WeRP Mar 2024 #15
DAMN THIS COURT. ancianita Mar 2024 #17
A couple of questions Enquiring_Mind Mar 2024 #18
If they committed a crime, then they are referred to the feds. LeftInTX Mar 2024 #22
Well, now the onus will be on Texas courts NanaCat Mar 2024 #29
The Roberts Court is now a total joke. Rules for making a sinkingfeeling Mar 2024 #19
I too lost faith in the Court with Bush v. Gore. The beginning of the end of rule of law. nt SunSeeker Mar 2024 #21
THIS decision SCARES the shit out of me. bluestarone Mar 2024 #20
Wouldn't be surprised if Abbott starts separating families now. SunSeeker Mar 2024 #23
Cut the Federal Money OFF nwliberalkiwi Mar 2024 #24
A gradual draw down of federal immigration support NanaCat Mar 2024 #28
The Supreme Court just kicked the legs out from under ALL Politicub Mar 2024 #25
So they don't need Customs and Border Patrol? NanaCat Mar 2024 #27
Appeals court stops it - yay! lark Mar 2024 #34
Huh? Polybius Mar 2024 #35
It wasn't a decision on the merits FBaggins Mar 2024 #37
But we can "trust the SC. They're not helping Tump or other Republicans." BlueKota Mar 2024 #36
 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
1. Nina Turner, Susan Sarandon's, David Sirota, Cornell West, Eddie Glaude, Brihana Joy Gray, and all the other jackasses
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 01:39 PM
Mar 2024

who refused to vote for Hillary in the general election in 2016, YOU OWN THIS, along with the overturning of Roe, the whittling down of the voting rights act, etc. etc. etc.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
38. Everyone on the Left who refused to vote for Hillary in the swing states owns this
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 03:54 AM
Mar 2024

as well as giving us the national nightmare of Trump. In 2016 there were only 2 people who could win the presidential election: either Hillary Clinton or Trump. That's it. So any Democrat or voter on the Left who did not vote for Hillary in the swing states only helped Trump. It's choices and consequences: you made the choice and the rest of us who did vote for Hillary as well as many others have suffered the consequences. Nice job.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,422 posts)
3. Refuse to accept any detainees or allow any crossing of state held detainees.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 01:47 PM
Mar 2024

And arrest the first motherfucker who tries deporting a detainee.

peppertree

(23,187 posts)
9. You're right, of course - the problem is that Abutt is just ITCHING to have a "shootout with the Feds"
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:43 PM
Mar 2024

It's what his radicalized mouth-breathers fantasize with, day and night (besides underage cousins).

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
31. Abbott is stupid
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 09:59 PM
Mar 2024

Because there's a far easier and violence-free way to make him regret taking this path:

Putting the onus of all immigrant arrests Texas makes on Texas. They will need to house the detainees until their kangaroo hearings, conduct the kangaroo hearings, and then pay the costs of the deportation, too. State arrests? Then state money needs to pay for it all, and not one dime from the feds for it.

Texas doesn't have enough law enforcement officers to provide border patrol and address normal LEO duties, too--and even if they could provide the personnel, they don't and won't have the money to pay for it all.

Let him learn it the hard way.

peppertree

(23,187 posts)
33. Good point
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 10:19 PM
Mar 2024

I bet he wishes he could do what Nutnyahoo does: ethnic cleansing.

But as this isn't a rogue state, he'll try to ship'em to some blue state - and if that fails, he'll dump'em in the streets of Houston or Dallas.

Cities which, to many TX Republicans, have been "lost" anyway.

ShazzieB

(22,341 posts)
16. Why do SIX PEOPLE on the Supreme Court hate America?
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:52 PM
Mar 2024

It must suck to be one of the liberal minority right now. Jackson, Kagan, and Sotomayor are powerless to stop the majority from doing horrible things. I'm glad they are there to write well-reasoned dissents to the crazy ass decisions the others come up with, but Biden REALLY needs to expand the court in his second term, before the Sucky Six drag this country down any further than they already have!

tom_kelly

(1,051 posts)
8. Who's going to pay to confine the migrants?
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:38 PM
Mar 2024

If the feds are on the hook for that, there will be a lot of money to be made down there.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
30. The feds need to tell them
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 09:54 PM
Mar 2024

Your arrests, your court jurisdiction, not ours.

Make them cover the costs of hearings and housing until the hearings, and processing and transporting them for deportation.

Hey--give them what they want, control over the immigration process...and all the costs associated with it, too.

Cheezoholic

(3,577 posts)
10. Its legal to sell pot in lots of states yet its still illegal federally
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:44 PM
Mar 2024

Not agreeing just sayin'. I know what Sotomayor is saying but in my simple minded law world it would seem we better legalize pot at the federal level pretty quick if we want to honestly retain federal law is the final law of the land. Or maybe it works in some way I don't get.

moonshinegnomie

(3,931 posts)
11. wehave no real rule of law anymore
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:47 PM
Mar 2024

the supreme court and the far right rule by fiat no matter what teh majority wants. Its high time for drastic action.
start by cutting texas off from any federal money. (and i live in texas). for instance the massive wild fires in norther texas? no federal aid. not 1 one penny. If texas can afford to waste money on its immigration crackdown it can afford to pay its own way 100%

usaf-vet

(7,771 posts)
14. Is it the states have power to decided these issues today but not tomorrow because the states ...
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:48 PM
Mar 2024

..... have to leave THAT to us smarter men to make those decisions. Which is it, you hypocritical SCOTUS idiots?

Ladies, get back in the kitchen and shut up.

 

Mr.WeRP

(1,098 posts)
15. So according to SCOTUS, states can act as federal on immigration
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:48 PM
Mar 2024

But can’t on elections even though the Constitution explicitly gives the states that right. 🤔

 

Enquiring_Mind

(83 posts)
18. A couple of questions
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 04:23 PM
Mar 2024

What happened previously when local police encountered migrants who were not here legally? Detain until they could turn them over to the federal authorities?

Now when local police arrest them, will they be processed differently than if arrested by federal authorities?

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
29. Well, now the onus will be on Texas courts
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 09:51 PM
Mar 2024

To decide who stays and who goes.

Make them pay for that, rather than the feds.

They want the control? Well, they can pay for the privilege of it.

sinkingfeeling

(57,486 posts)
19. The Roberts Court is now a total joke. Rules for making a
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 04:25 PM
Mar 2024

decision change daily. I lost faith in the SCOTUS to do the correct, Constitutional thing after Bush vs. Gore and it's been downhill since.

SunSeeker

(57,885 posts)
23. Wouldn't be surprised if Abbott starts separating families now.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 04:52 PM
Mar 2024

He's a sadistic fuck.

The right wing 6 on SCOTUS sure can move quickly when they want a particular outcome.

nwliberalkiwi

(421 posts)
24. Cut the Federal Money OFF
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 05:06 PM
Mar 2024

Time to cut the Federal funds off and move the military bases out of Texas. Block off all Federal Highways at the Texas Boarder. No airplanes or trains over the Texas Boarder. Personally I'd kick them out of the Union. No Social Security checks for Texans. Let's make Texas a bigger hell hole than it already is!!! Just a modest proposal.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
28. A gradual draw down of federal immigration support
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 09:49 PM
Mar 2024

Would do the job without cratering the economy far beyond the borders of Texas.

Politicub

(12,327 posts)
25. The Supreme Court just kicked the legs out from under ALL
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 05:48 PM
Mar 2024

federal laws. This won’t stop at immigration.

I am afraid. And angry.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
27. So they don't need Customs and Border Patrol?
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 09:41 PM
Mar 2024

Then why have the feds doing it. Let the Texans take it over.

All of it. Including the expense of it. But we won't do that, because the cratering of the Texas economy from the loss of that sweet, sweet federal cash would bring down the rest of the country, too.

On the other hand, a gradual, but emphatic, withdrawal of federal border funds would still send a message: You don't need us handling migrants? Good. We have better ways to spend this bit of federal money...And, oh, this bit, too... And now this, this and this...

And--what's that? You want your funding back? But we're giving you what you wanted, which was securing the border yourselves. Why do you want our help now, when you said you could do it so much better than we could?

So show us all how it's done. We eagerly await the results. Just don't expect us to provide the lion's share of the funding for it if you want the lion's share of the control.

FBaggins

(28,670 posts)
37. It wasn't a decision on the merits
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 06:26 PM
Mar 2024

SCOTUS wasn't asked "will you block this law?" - They were asked "the 5th circuit said that the law could be enforced while they wait to hear the case... will you force them to change their mind?". SCOTUS said no... but they didn't say that the 5th circuit couldn't change their own mind (which they have done because the oral arguments begin today)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/appeals-court-blocks-texas-immigration-law-supreme-court-action-rcna144193

BlueKota

(5,137 posts)
36. But we can "trust the SC. They're not helping Tump or other Republicans."
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 06:18 PM
Mar 2024

"That's conspiracy theory territory." Bullcrap those 6 clowns don't know the Constitution from their own butts.

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