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BumRushDaShow

(169,310 posts)
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 06:14 PM Mar 2024

Gingrich reacts to Greene's motion to oust Speaker Johnson: Gaetz 'unleashed the demons'

Source: The Hill

03/23/24 5:38 PM ET


Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) said that Congressman Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) “unleashed the demons” when he spearheaded an effort last year to oust former Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) from his leadership post.

Gingrich was responding to a question from Fox host Laura Ingraham on why some House Republicans, like Reps. Ken Buck (R-Colo.) and Mike Gallagher (R-Wisc.), have been leaving Congress before their terms ended.

Gingrich said that, in part, Gaetz’s effort last year that ended McCarthy’s tenure as speaker should not be downplayed and that since then, the lower chamber has been a “disaster.”

“Well I think, first of all, you’d have to have a totally different approach,” Gingrich said Friday on “The Ingraham Angle.” “We shouldn’t underestimate how bad what Matt Gaetz did was for the whole system. He unleashed the demons, he went after somebody who would raise $480 million, had gained seats for three elections in a row, and he drove Kevin McCarthy out of office. From that point on, it has been a disaster.”

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4551945-gingrich-reacts-to-greenes-motion-to-oust-speaker-johnson-gaetz-unleashed-the-demons/



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Gingrich reacts to Greene's motion to oust Speaker Johnson: Gaetz 'unleashed the demons' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 OP
Newt is being too generous: its been a disaster for a lot longer than that getagrip_already Mar 2024 #1
Yes, since elleng Mar 2024 #5
Really interesting. I've thought that Newt was a root cause of a lot our current dysfunction and this sort of confirms EarnestPutz Mar 2024 #16
No doubt newt caused much of our current misery. elleng Mar 2024 #21
Exactly SouthernDem4ever Mar 2024 #27
Absolutely Rebl2 Mar 2024 #37
The first demon bedazzled Mar 2024 #42
His "contract with America".... SergeStorms Mar 2024 #53
Optics Roy Rolling Mar 2024 #58
Maybe not the root, but the vehicle, the proof-of-concept JHB Mar 2024 #63
That would require self-awareness Arthur_Frain Mar 2024 #8
Why does anyone, even Fox, think Newt is worth talking to? catrose Mar 2024 #2
He created the current chaos in Congress BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #4
Sure, but as you say,he was run out. No disgrace for Rs catrose Mar 2024 #6
I usually stick this in Gingrich OPs BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #14
Great post. thanks. EarnestPutz Mar 2024 #17
Thank you. People need reminding of how slimy the Newt is. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2024 #20
Very true. Gen X were in their early 20's when his 'Contract ON America' took off, ancianita Mar 2024 #41
I'm Gen X and I remember it well Unwind Your Mind Mar 2024 #64
CNN had his sidekick Frank Lutz on recently underpants Mar 2024 #34
... BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #38
Criminals... 2naSalit Mar 2024 #19
YES! elleng Mar 2024 #7
With "The Contract for America." Onthefly Mar 2024 #13
Or as some Rebl2 Mar 2024 #39
Fox thinks any Republican is worth talking to no matter what their history is. And Newt's is one of the worst. ificandream Mar 2024 #11
Newt is a GOP Neanderthal agingdem Mar 2024 #54
Thank you! LittleGirl Mar 2024 #57
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) said that Congressman Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) "unleashed the demons" elleng Mar 2024 #3
Just think about it. People like Richard Nixon and Newt Gringrich are now your 'Moral Compass' 4lbs Mar 2024 #9
And now it's all STJ ! Save Trump's Johnson! DoBW Mar 2024 #10
OK, that was good....perhaps a photo of them together with that slogan would be perfect. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2024 #28
STJ STJ ?! DoBW Mar 2024 #32
I guess Stormy was right Red Mountain Mar 2024 #35
Perfect pic....makes me wonder where Trump's hand and arm are.... OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2024 #45
Newt wrote "The Contract for America" with the help of the Heritage Foundation Onthefly Mar 2024 #12
He had been working on "chaos" long before he did that "Contract" BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #15
When they had McCain and Palin running Arne Mar 2024 #18
Demon Master says what? Attilatheblond Mar 2024 #22
Well, Newtie... rubbersole Mar 2024 #23
Newt's probably realizing Mr.Bill Mar 2024 #24
I just spit my wine out all over myself. . surfered Mar 2024 #25
Newt all acting like he can't understand... dchill Mar 2024 #26
Takes a demon JustAnotherGen Mar 2024 #29
Award Newt the Captain Obvious Medal, because he laid the groundwork for this shitshow. Hekate Mar 2024 #30
You can take full credit for the Party changes, Newt. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2024 #31
He's not wrong, but we didn't need to hear it from Newtie FakeNoose Mar 2024 #33
Newt's Partly to blame DownriverDem Mar 2024 #36
No, you did that a long ass time ago. You flaccid waste of worm DNA. nt Carlitos Brigante Mar 2024 #40
Gaetz *IS* the demon. relayerbob Mar 2024 #43
Has anyone actually tried... dchill Mar 2024 #52
Gaetz has demons, alright.... Blue Owl Mar 2024 #44
New Gangrene kairos12 Mar 2024 #46
BumRushDaShow.......... Upthevibe Mar 2024 #47
No, Newtie, don't try to deflect the blame to Gaetz AverageOldGuy Mar 2024 #48
posters in this thread, in spite of some of the negative images they paint, orleans Mar 2024 #49
Disaster? Nahhh. Karma? Hell ya baby!!!! cstanleytech Mar 2024 #50
At least the eye of Newt knows enough to try to pick those self-same reptilian-brained demon scales off his nose Backseat Driver Mar 2024 #51
He learned from you, Newt . . . . . no_hypocrisy Mar 2024 #55
Newt taking about Gaetz on Fox... WTF? Layzeebeaver Mar 2024 #56
no, Newt, YOU unleashed the demons Skittles Mar 2024 #59
Newtie's mad he didn't get invited to the cocaine parties. tanyev Mar 2024 #60
Hard to believe Gingrich, the original "Demon Releaser," is talking like this. The GOP has fucked itself. Martin68 Mar 2024 #61
You know who "unleashed the demons" Newton? YOU! JHB Mar 2024 #62
No, he didn't do it but he sure as hell helped it. cstanleytech Mar 2024 #66
Yeah. he did. They were there before, but he was the one who gave the invocation and made them manifest JHB Mar 2024 #74
I'm not trying to dimish it but the reality is that he himself was a mouthpiece for others. cstanleytech Mar 2024 #76
Fuck off Newt!!! You helped unleash this beast back when Clinton was President so don't fucking complain now. cstanleytech Mar 2024 #65
I'm throwing out a link that says a lot about Gingrich from long ago when Bill Clinton's was in office that flying_wahini Mar 2024 #67
It's like the Devil's giving advise on how to be a better person wolfie001 Mar 2024 #68
Idiot VanceFan Mar 2024 #69
He furthered the hyperpartisanship that lead to this. Not surprised he doesn't recognize his part in it. n/t D23MIURG23 Mar 2024 #70
Put it this way... lonely bird Mar 2024 #71
Slimy Newt can go to hell. Dave Bowman Mar 2024 #72
Republicans are reaping what they has sown and Newt helped cast those seeds. republianmushroom Mar 2024 #73
Just simplify if for them, newt. "If it's not in a skirt truthisfreedom Mar 2024 #75

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
1. Newt is being too generous: its been a disaster for a lot longer than that
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 06:19 PM
Mar 2024

They haven't accomplished anything beyond a tax cut for the uber wealthy since well before tsf.

elleng

(141,926 posts)
5. Yes, since
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 06:26 PM
Mar 2024

The Gingrich Senators: The Roots of Partisan Warfare in Congress

The Senate of the mid twentieth century, which was venerated by journalists, historians, and senators alike, is today but a distant memory. Electioneering on the Senate floor, playing games with the legislative process, and questioning your fellow senators' motives have become commonplace.

In this book, noted political scientist Sean Theriault documents the Senate's demise over the last 30 years by showing how one group of senators has been at the forefront of this transformation. He calls this group the "Gingrich Senators" and defines them as Republican senators who previously served in the House after 1978, the year of Newt Gingrich's first election to the House. He shows how the Gingrich Senators are more conservative, more likely to engage in tactics that obstruct the legislative process, and more likely to oppose Democratic presidents than even their fellow other Republicans. Phil Gramm, Rick Santorum, Jim DeMint, and Tom Coburn are just four examples of the group that has includes 40 total senators and 22 currently serving senators. >>>

https://www.amazon.com/Gingrich-Senators-Partisan-Warfare-Congress/dp/0199307466

 

EarnestPutz

(2,843 posts)
16. Really interesting. I've thought that Newt was a root cause of a lot our current dysfunction and this sort of confirms
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 07:03 PM
Mar 2024

SergeStorms

(20,532 posts)
53. His "contract with America"....
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 02:41 AM
Mar 2024

became a contract on America and republicans have been dismantling our democracy ever since.

All of them paved the way for the worst person in the world to finish the job, and throw our country under the fascist bus.

Fuck off, Newt. 🤬

Roy Rolling

(7,624 posts)
58. Optics
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 06:59 AM
Mar 2024

The significance of this was a contract was a business apparatus—so it was branded as “run government like a business bullsh*t.

It’s impossible to run government like a business for reasons too innumerable to mention here. But here was the first instance of that theory and the utter disaster it was. History clearly shows chaos has followed every GOP attempt to govern with this failed principle.

JHB

(38,169 posts)
63. Maybe not the root, but the vehicle, the proof-of-concept
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 09:44 AM
Mar 2024

The success of the tag-team of Newt and Rush in the 90s became the standard operating procedure for the GOP.

BumRushDaShow

(169,310 posts)
4. He created the current chaos in Congress
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 06:22 PM
Mar 2024

(and as we know, used to be SOH and was eventually run out)

BumRushDaShow

(169,310 posts)
14. I usually stick this in Gingrich OPs
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 06:59 PM
Mar 2024

It was very elucidating -


The Man Who Broke Politics

Newt Gingrich turned partisan battles into bloodsport, wrecked Congress, and paved the way for Trump’s rise. Now he’s reveling in his achievements.

Story by McKay Coppins
November 2018 Issue

Updated on October 17, 2018

(snip)

On June 24, 1978, Gingrich stood to address a gathering of College Republicans at a Holiday Inn near the Atlanta airport. It was a natural audience for him. At 35, he was more youthful-looking than the average congressional candidate, with fashionably robust sideburns and a cool-professor charisma that had made him one of the more popular faculty members at West Georgia College. But Gingrich had not come to deliver an academic lecture to the young activists before him—he had come to foment revolution.

“One of the great problems we have in the Republican Party is that we don’t encourage you to be nasty,” he told the group. “We encourage you to be neat, obedient, and loyal, and faithful, and all those Boy Scout words, which would be great around the campfire but are lousy in politics.” For their party to succeed, Gingrich went on, the next generation of Republicans would have to learn to “raise hell,” to stop being so “nice,” to realize that politics was, above all, a cutthroat “war for power”—and to start acting like it.

The speech received little attention at the time. Gingrich was, after all, an obscure, untenured professor whose political experience consisted of two failed congressional bids. But when, a few months later, he was finally elected to the House of Representatives on his third try, he went to Washington a man obsessed with becoming the kind of leader he had described that day in Atlanta. The GOP was then at its lowest point in modern history. Scores of Republican lawmakers had been wiped out in the aftermath of Watergate, and those who’d survived seemed, to Gingrich, sadly resigned to a “permanent minority” mind-set. “It was like death,” he recalls of the mood in the caucus. “They were morally and psychologically shattered.”

But Gingrich had a plan. The way he saw it, Republicans would never be able to take back the House as long as they kept compromising with the Democrats out of some high-minded civic desire to keep congressional business humming along. His strategy was to blow up the bipartisan coalitions that were essential to legislating, and then seize on the resulting dysfunction to wage a populist crusade against the institution of Congress itself. “His idea,” says Norm Ornstein, a political scientist who knew Gingrich at the time, “was to build toward a national election where people were so disgusted by Washington and the way it was operating that they would throw the ins out and bring the outs in.”

(snip)

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/11/newt-gingrich-says-youre-welcome/570832/

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
20. Thank you. People need reminding of how slimy the Newt is.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 07:29 PM
Mar 2024

Young folks might not realize it's a plan, not just abnormal individuals.

ancianita

(43,303 posts)
41. Very true. Gen X were in their early 20's when his 'Contract ON America' took off,
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 09:47 PM
Mar 2024

nevermind today's Millennials and Gen Z.

Unwind Your Mind

(2,347 posts)
64. I'm Gen X and I remember it well
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 10:55 AM
Mar 2024

But you’re right of course, we need to remember the history and remind the younger ones

underpants

(196,375 posts)
34. CNN had his sidekick Frank Lutz on recently
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 08:48 PM
Mar 2024

He bemoaned political discord (no seriously) and planted the seed that foreclosing on Trump properties would get him elected.

Rebl2

(17,700 posts)
39. Or as some
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 08:57 PM
Mar 2024

called it “The Contract on America”. At least that’s what I called it.

ificandream

(11,836 posts)
11. Fox thinks any Republican is worth talking to no matter what their history is. And Newt's is one of the worst.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 06:47 PM
Mar 2024

agingdem

(8,835 posts)
54. Newt is a GOP Neanderthal
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 05:38 AM
Mar 2024

desperate to stay relevant..that said, I think it's time for the DU powers that be to stop posting anything dinosaurs Newt/Karl Rove/John Bolton spew on Fox or any cable network...

LittleGirl

(8,999 posts)
57. Thank you!
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 06:44 AM
Mar 2024

This is the DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND, not the republican agenda nightmare we’re living. Just look at the front page, nothing but trump, trump trump.

elleng

(141,926 posts)
3. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) said that Congressman Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) "unleashed the demons"
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 06:21 PM
Mar 2024

Gingrich!!!





4lbs

(7,395 posts)
9. Just think about it. People like Richard Nixon and Newt Gringrich are now your 'Moral Compass'
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 06:35 PM
Mar 2024

Just how far off the rails have you gotten when THOSE turds are the voices of reason?

OAITW r.2.0

(32,087 posts)
28. OK, that was good....perhaps a photo of them together with that slogan would be perfect.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 08:14 PM
Mar 2024

Onthefly

(1,280 posts)
12. Newt wrote "The Contract for America" with the help of the Heritage Foundation
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 06:49 PM
Mar 2024

It is a major perspective that created the current chaos in congress.

Arne

(3,609 posts)
18. When they had McCain and Palin running
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 07:05 PM
Mar 2024

the idiots here kept wishing they would run Newt.

I said if that happens you'll have a newt for president.

rubbersole

(11,197 posts)
23. Well, Newtie...
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 07:51 PM
Mar 2024

...does that mean the repubs should be taken to the dump? You know, for the children...

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
24. Newt's probably realizing
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 08:05 PM
Mar 2024

that under today's rules he probably wouldn't last long as Speaker either.

Nor will any republican they pick.

surfered

(13,319 posts)
25. I just spit my wine out all over myself. .
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 08:07 PM
Mar 2024

…Newt was first to unleash the demons in the 90’s. Gaetz is just following in Newt’s footsteps.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
26. Newt all acting like he can't understand...
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 08:09 PM
Mar 2024

... trying to undermine democracy. Do a fake faint, Newt. Fan yourself a little. These are your kids!

FakeNoose

(41,492 posts)
33. He's not wrong, but we didn't need to hear it from Newtie
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 08:42 PM
Mar 2024

We were saying this all along. Oh well!

None of us feel bad for Kevin either, so there's that.

DownriverDem

(7,011 posts)
36. Newt's Partly to blame
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 08:53 PM
Mar 2024

He gave the no compromise order when he was speaker. He told the then repubs not to stay in DC on weekends & interact with the Dems. This mandate has been in place since the 90's. It is full tilt now. repubs don't legislate.

relayerbob

(7,420 posts)
43. Gaetz *IS* the demon.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 09:54 PM
Mar 2024

Gingrich's part is that he set the stage for demons to take over the GOP. He should STFU.

Blue Owl

(59,010 posts)
44. Gaetz has demons, alright....
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 10:14 PM
Mar 2024

Demons that need to be exposed and not kept hidden away from public view....

Upthevibe

(10,171 posts)
47. BumRushDaShow..........
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 11:06 PM
Mar 2024

Thanks for this post.

Newt Gingrich is one of the key operators that got us where we are. The catastrophic result of his machinations simply can't be overstated. IMHO, he emits evil energy (Yes. I believe there are evil humans among us).

AverageOldGuy

(3,790 posts)
48. No, Newtie, don't try to deflect the blame to Gaetz
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 11:07 PM
Mar 2024

It was one Newt Gingrich who set in motion the dysfunction we have today. It's all on you, asshole.

orleans

(36,888 posts)
49. posters in this thread, in spite of some of the negative images they paint,
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 11:29 PM
Mar 2024

seem generally far more... decent in their replies than i intend to be.

my reply is simply this:

fuck him. and fuck them all! they can all go to hell

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
51. At least the eye of Newt knows enough to try to pick those self-same reptilian-brained demon scales off his nose
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 12:13 AM
Mar 2024

when he looks in the mirror! -- Hah, maybe his potion steeped too long!

Skittles

(171,564 posts)
59. no, Newt, YOU unleashed the demons
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 07:35 AM
Mar 2024

started with that CONTRACT ON AMERICA and has been on a roll ever since - GO FUCK YOURSELF

Martin68

(27,658 posts)
61. Hard to believe Gingrich, the original "Demon Releaser," is talking like this. The GOP has fucked itself.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 08:35 AM
Mar 2024

Unfortunately, that affects the entire country. The Representative Branch has become dysfunctional, thanks to MAGA. Will Republicans ever grow a spine and start governing?

JHB

(38,169 posts)
62. You know who "unleashed the demons" Newton? YOU!
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 09:27 AM
Mar 2024

You set them on this path, they're all following the example you set.

You built that.

"My name is Newtimandious. Behold, ye mighty, and despair."

JHB

(38,169 posts)
74. Yeah. he did. They were there before, but he was the one who gave the invocation and made them manifest
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 04:31 PM
Mar 2024

Made it a part of their standard operating procedure.

Never diminish his role in making the GOP into the shit pile it has become.

cstanleytech

(28,458 posts)
76. I'm not trying to dimish it but the reality is that he himself was a mouthpiece for others.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 11:45 PM
Mar 2024

A large mouthpiece granted but still a mouthpiece.

cstanleytech

(28,458 posts)
65. Fuck off Newt!!! You helped unleash this beast back when Clinton was President so don't fucking complain now.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 10:58 AM
Mar 2024

flying_wahini

(8,274 posts)
67. I'm throwing out a link that says a lot about Gingrich from long ago when Bill Clinton's was in office that
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 11:01 AM
Mar 2024

brought a lot of memories back for me.
Gingrich is an ass.

https://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/time/1998/11/09/gingrich.html

wolfie001

(7,615 posts)
68. It's like the Devil's giving advise on how to be a better person
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 11:13 AM
Mar 2024

No thanks Newt!!! who served his former wife divorce papers while she was in the hospital fighting cancer. Well, that's a mouthful.

VanceFan

(136 posts)
69. Idiot
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 12:18 PM
Mar 2024

Gingrich thinks the answer to Republican failure and dysfunction is to elect more Republicans. What an idiot!

D23MIURG23

(3,138 posts)
70. He furthered the hyperpartisanship that lead to this. Not surprised he doesn't recognize his part in it. n/t
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 12:25 PM
Mar 2024

lonely bird

(2,925 posts)
71. Put it this way...
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 12:27 PM
Mar 2024

Newt hasn’t gotten a quarter of the kicking around he deserved. He was, is and always will be a piece of crap. He was a major part of the Republican attack on democracy. That anyone anywhere considers any opinion out of his piehole as being worthy of broadcast is astounding.

republianmushroom

(22,296 posts)
73. Republicans are reaping what they has sown and Newt helped cast those seeds.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 01:38 PM
Mar 2024

Craw back under your rock, newt.

truthisfreedom

(23,531 posts)
75. Just simplify if for them, newt. "If it's not in a skirt
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 09:41 PM
Mar 2024

and fresh out of high school, Gaetz has no idea what to do with it.” That is the crux of the problem. Gaetz isn’t congressional material. If he’s not robbing the cradle he’s incapable of doing anything.

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