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BumRushDaShow

(128,207 posts)
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 03:59 PM Apr 2

Billionaire whose firm backed Trump's $175 million bond reveals how the deal came together

Source: CNN Business

Updated 2:53 PM EDT, Tue April 2, 2024


CNN — Don Hankey, the chairman and majority shareholder of Knight Specialty Insurance, told CNN on Tuesday that the deal to underwrite former President Donald Trump’s $175 million bond in New York came together quickly and that Trump posted all cash as collateral. “It’s what we do. I’m happy to do it. We would have done it for anybody else,” Hankey said in a phone interview. “It was an easy transaction. It was put together very quickly.”

Based in California, Knight Specialty Insurance is known for providing subprime auto loans to car buyers with weaker credit scores. Hankey, who has supported Trump’s presidential campaigns, said initially he reached out to the Trump Organization last month when the former president was having trouble putting together a bond of $464 million. Hankey has amassed a fortune that Forbes values at $7.4 billion.

“We had a conversation about putting together a bond of that size,” Hankey told CNN. After the amount of the bond was slashed to $175 million by a New York appeals court, the Trump team eventually reached back out to Knight Specialty, according to Hankey.

At first, Trump planned to post a mix of investment-grade bonds and cash as collateral (80% bonds and 20% cash), Hankey said. Although Knight Specialty received the bonds and approved them, he said they were not posted in the end. “Ultimately, he put up all cash,” Hankey said, adding that he does not know where the $175 million in cash that Trump posted came from.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/02/investing/trump-bond-firm/index.html

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Billionaire whose firm backed Trump's $175 million bond reveals how the deal came together (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 2 OP
Money came from yankee87 Apr 2 #1
Yeah... Who could guess that? hlthe2b Apr 2 #3
Trump is likely using campaign cash pfitz59 Apr 2 #2
Is there such a thing anymore? mucifer Apr 2 #5
Not a violation because it didn't happen brooklynite Apr 2 #7
Yes - but enforced by whom? Our banana republic-level FEC? peppertree Apr 2 #11
I would imagine that he himself is not worried moniss Apr 2 #12
Then all you need to do is check the FEC records to know if it happened. brooklynite Apr 2 #16
We need to remember that FEC filings moniss Apr 2 #17
Not by $17 M. brooklynite Apr 2 #18
It's not a matter of imagining moniss Apr 2 #19
Not with the FEC. brooklynite Apr 2 #24
The FEC files are filled with forms that balance the money in moniss Apr 2 #27
Trump, alone, wouldn't be able to move that amount of campaign cash. cab67 Apr 3 #37
Some campaigns moniss Apr 3 #38
We absolutely need to know where the money came from gilpo Apr 2 #4
if trump had $175M in cash, why did he need the bond in the first place? eggplant Apr 2 #6
Bingo and moniss Apr 2 #10
He didn't. brooklynite Apr 2 #25
Hankey may have gotten $175 million in cash to cover the bond ToxMarz Apr 2 #28
Birds of a feather flock together JoseBalow Apr 2 #8
In other news Trump's Flaming Bibles, Inc. is now valued at 175 million. twodogsbarking Apr 2 #9
A Buy Here Pay Here billionaire in Amerika. Imagine that n/t Cheezoholic Apr 2 #13
I would suggest moniss Apr 2 #14
I don't believe 1 fucking word gab13by13 Apr 2 #15
See if Putin withdrew 15,998,440,749.88 Rubles recently. SouthernDem4ever Apr 2 #20
Gee, a shady sub-prime lender that exploits desperate people gets in bed with the Slobfather. catbyte Apr 2 #21
Me too. Imagine, the scion of totally respectable slum lords dealing with sub-prime repo artists. jaxexpat Apr 3 #36
Of course TFG used some Hankey Pankey to cover his bond IbogaProject Apr 2 #22
This Hankey says TSF put up 100% cash as collateral vs 80% bonds and 20% cash. If TSF put up all iluvtennis Apr 2 #23
He put up 10 % or about 17.5 millions. drray23 Apr 2 #29
Ok. Thanks for clarifying as the article wasn't clear. n/t iluvtennis Apr 2 #31
Hinky Hankey can kiss his $ millions goodbye dlk Apr 2 #26
He is not worried about the money at all. Somebody guaranteed it. niyad Apr 2 #33
You're probably right, however, whomever the guarantor may be dlk Apr 3 #39
Learn from history truthisfreedom Apr 2 #30
DU'er Kpete posted an OP yesterday about hankey and his scummy, niyad Apr 2 #32
I'm guessing the word "ambassador" came into it (nt) muriel_volestrangler Apr 3 #34
The most evil, corrupt, fraudulent Used Car Salesman maxrandb Apr 3 #35

brooklynite

(94,231 posts)
7. Not a violation because it didn't happen
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 04:22 PM
Apr 2

I don’t care what people imagine Trump WANTS to do. You can’t reroute $17.5 M from an FEC campaign account. Someone who’s not Trump will have to report the outflow and won’t want to go to jail. Also, an outflow that large would be a huge hit to what the campaign is doing.

peppertree

(21,583 posts)
11. Yes - but enforced by whom? Our banana republic-level FEC?
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 04:43 PM
Apr 2

Where all enforcement is essentially blocked by one party at will and at whim - and with no recourse.

moniss

(4,127 posts)
12. I would imagine that he himself is not worried
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 04:51 PM
Apr 2

in the least about an FEC fine. At his age by the time a fine would even be levied he may likely be gone. I agree with you about underlings being reluctant. But I believe they would try to justify all of this as simply paying his "legal costs" and fighting in court to defend including the bond in that definition.

moniss

(4,127 posts)
17. We need to remember that FEC filings
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 06:12 PM
Apr 2

get "corrected" even years after an original filing. Things suddenly appear that weren't there before.

moniss

(4,127 posts)
19. It's not a matter of imagining
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 06:19 PM
Apr 2

a conspiracy. I don't know which one you might be referring to but I do know we can point to several instances of fraudulent conduct by this fellow that far exceed $17 million. He didn't stop after the first crooked scam so why would he be bothered now?

brooklynite

(94,231 posts)
24. Not with the FEC.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 08:57 PM
Apr 2

Whether or not you imagine he's cheating, and whether or not you believe the FEC will act on fraud, the money in still has to be matched to the money out.

moniss

(4,127 posts)
27. The FEC files are filled with forms that balance the money in
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 09:18 PM
Apr 2

and out and yet are filled with lies about the what, the who and the why.

cab67

(2,990 posts)
37. Trump, alone, wouldn't be able to move that amount of campaign cash.
Wed Apr 3, 2024, 09:24 AM
Apr 3

He may not care, but I would imagine there are others involved who would.

moniss

(4,127 posts)
38. Some campaigns
Wed Apr 3, 2024, 09:59 AM
Apr 3

also slush the money through various "consulting" firm contracts and some finds it's way back under the table so to speak to the candidate or to a financial firm who then "loans" money to the candidate on a personal basis.

eggplant

(3,906 posts)
6. if trump had $175M in cash, why did he need the bond in the first place?
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 04:21 PM
Apr 2

why wouldn't he just put up the cash with the court?

or is it because he didn't /actually/ hand the cash over to this guy, just showed him that it theoretically existed?

ToxMarz

(2,159 posts)
28. Hankey may have gotten $175 million in cash to cover the bond
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 09:22 PM
Apr 2

but it wouldn't have been Trumps cash as you said because he could do that himself. He had to go through the bond to hide/launder the source of the money.

moniss

(4,127 posts)
14. I would suggest
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 05:01 PM
Apr 2

requesting a review report from the overseer that is monitoring his NY companies for all significant transaction amounts for the last 6 months at least. Did this group of companies "loan" him money he is simply now handing back? Promise of future business and big "cash flows" from foreign "friends" doing cash real estate deals? Lot's of financial transactions to profit from to more than make back the $175 million? Has there been some recent huge deposits in the bank? Big transfers? Lots of questions.

catbyte

(34,297 posts)
21. Gee, a shady sub-prime lender that exploits desperate people gets in bed with the Slobfather.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 07:28 PM
Apr 2

Quelle surprise.

jaxexpat

(6,777 posts)
36. Me too. Imagine, the scion of totally respectable slum lords dealing with sub-prime repo artists.
Wed Apr 3, 2024, 08:23 AM
Apr 3

* No legs were broken in the writing of this totally free speech endowed critique. It was an accident, falling down the stairs. Angry stairs.

BTW, did Parker and Stone write this script? Has Cartman set up this whole thing from the beginning?

iluvtennis

(19,810 posts)
23. This Hankey says TSF put up 100% cash as collateral vs 80% bonds and 20% cash. If TSF put up all
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 08:34 PM
Apr 2

Last edited Tue Apr 2, 2024, 11:12 PM - Edit history (1)

cash collateral why did he need Hankey - he could have paid the bond himself. Something smelly here.

drray23

(7,612 posts)
29. He put up 10 % or about 17.5 millions.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 09:30 PM
Apr 2

Typically you put up 10 % and the bond company assumes the risk for the rest.

dlk

(11,491 posts)
39. You're probably right, however, whomever the guarantor may be
Wed Apr 3, 2024, 12:58 PM
Apr 3

It’s pretty much a given, they will lose their money. Putin has deep pockets, though.

niyad

(112,919 posts)
32. DU'er Kpete posted an OP yesterday about hankey and his scummy,
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 11:45 PM
Apr 2

shady dealings. It referred to an article in Roll8ng Stone, 13 March 2022, "The Totally Dodgy Backstory of the Bank That Refinanced t#### tower", by Tim Dickinson and Andy Kroll. Absolutely disgusting. Completely unsurprising. (note: I managed to read the entire sickening article yesterday, but when I went back just now, hit a paywall.)

maxrandb

(15,261 posts)
35. The most evil, corrupt, fraudulent Used Car Salesman
Wed Apr 3, 2024, 08:14 AM
Apr 3

received a "bond" from the subprime auto-loan king.

Nothing to see here, move along.

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