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ificandream

(9,385 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 02:04 PM Apr 19

Man Sets Himself on Fire Outside Donald Trump Trial

Last edited Fri Apr 19, 2024, 11:12 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Newsweek

An individual set themselves on fire on Friday afternoon outside of former President Donald Trump's Manhattan criminal trial. Several news networks like Fox News and CNN reported that a man was seen setting himself in flames outside of the courthouse on Friday. Newsweek reporter Katherine Fung said, "We hear sirens from inside the courthouse."

The Office of the Deputy Commissioner of Public Information (DCPI) for the New York Police Department (NYPD) confirmed to Newsweek that first responders were "aiding a person outside the courthouse." CNN anchor Laura Coates was seen reporting on the former president's hush money trial in New York City and was heard saying that a man had set fire to themselves "and has emblazoned himself."

"We are watching a man who is fully emblazoned in front of the courthouse today. We are watching multiple fires breaking out around his body and person. We have seen an arm that has been visible, that has been engulfed in total flames," Coates said on air. "There is total chaos...people are wondering right now if people are in danger." Fung, who has been inside the courtroom all week, reported that some smoke remained after first responders arrived on the scene.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/person-sets-themself-fire-outside-donald-trump-trial-1892341



"Themself" was the way it's posted on the site. No proofreaders, apparently.
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Man Sets Himself on Fire Outside Donald Trump Trial (Original Post) ificandream Apr 19 OP
Live updates at New York Magazine emulatorloo Apr 19 #1
Apparently this has also happened a few times at the white house while he was president. n/t Jacson6 Apr 19 #2
Not to mention "emblazoned"... petronius Apr 19 #3
Show us the article was written by an AI Miguelito Loveless Apr 19 #16
Beat Me To It! ProfessorGAC Apr 19 #41
I was gonna say... forgotmylogin Apr 19 #44
Look at me, Donald! It's all for you! n/t Harker Apr 19 #4
The Omen. AllyCat Apr 19 #6
I can't think of any other likely reason for that. Harker Apr 19 #11
A true MAGA 'patriot' calguy Apr 19 #7
It's a token of thanks, I'm supposing... Harker Apr 19 #8
As Mark Twain once said... calguy Apr 19 #19
It's extremely sad. Harker Apr 19 #22
Nope. Conspiracy theroist. Link to his manifesto inside. Bonx Apr 19 #20
So he suspected everyone except Mike Dukakis, Rob Lowe and Lisa Simpson of being involved in the conspiracy? dameatball Apr 19 #33
What's so weird: He's only 37. Born in 1986 or 1987. So at the oldest, he had just turned 2 during the convention. LeftInTX Apr 19 #34
It's not so weird: he understands these events through "both sides" revisionism mathematic Apr 19 #36
You know you have to include the video when you post things like that Ray Bruns Apr 19 #25
I'd forgotten about the dog. n/t Harker Apr 19 #26
This trial oswaldactedalone Apr 19 #5
Someone is going to kill people in Trumps name. joshcryer Apr 19 #9
Oh well..... LPBBEAR Apr 19 #10
Most of the replies here are assuming this was a Trump supporter, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 19 #12
It's DU. Where a lot of posters don't need no stinking confirmation. They assume. onenote Apr 19 #17
Trump will enjoy the death no matter the cause. Irish_Dem Apr 19 #27
Ruh roh, from the very link you provided: GreenWave Apr 19 #30
Have you read his "manifesto"? Did you miss these statements? onenote Apr 19 #48
Conspiracy theorist. Link to his manifesto inside. Bonx Apr 19 #21
I soon as I heard it I knew it wasn't a Trump supporter Polybius Apr 19 #35
Agreed. Codifer Apr 19 #52
Horrible situation. I read he was still alive when the ambulance took him away. Can't imagine he'll survive this. Joinfortmill Apr 19 #13
Depends on many things. Karma13612 Apr 19 #15
Wow. mahina Apr 19 #38
Sad Joinfortmill Apr 19 #53
Woah. Sorry you saw that. electric_blue68 Apr 20 #55
Depends on the location and depth of burns Warpy Apr 19 #24
Back In The 80s... ProfessorGAC Apr 19 #43
Unless he left all his money to Chump in his will, I don't think he'll notice FakeNoose Apr 19 #14
Trump is a magnet for the loons and the nutters... jvill Apr 19 #18
Florida man... Mz Pip Apr 19 #23
Was about to post that BumRushDaShow Apr 19 #28
Given the right circumstances ... Alsteen Apr 19 #29
What a mental state he must have been in, to have offed himself over .... bucolic_frolic Apr 19 #31
I can't imagine the pain he must be going through. mahina Apr 19 #39
I read his manifesto on substack TexasBushwhacker Apr 19 #32
Yes I read most of it too. Not a plain maga. scipan Apr 19 #37
Pretty crazy? That's like saying water is only a little wet. cstanleytech Apr 19 #46
The parts about crypto being a ponzi scheme scipan Apr 19 #47
Crypto is worth what people perceive it as being just like anything else. cstanleytech Apr 19 #49
Right SCantiGOP Apr 19 #50
Correct. nt cstanleytech Apr 19 #51
Newsweek fixed their headline. DavidDvorkin Apr 19 #40
Trump unleashed the crazies pfitz59 Apr 19 #42
He had formerly worked on Democratic campaigns and even trolled Newt Gingrich while wearing a Bernie shirt LeftInTX Apr 20 #56
Other than "themself" what would you recommend? Oopsie Daisy Apr 19 #45
"You're fired!" Violet_Crumble Apr 19 #54

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
44. I was gonna say...
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 05:13 PM
Apr 19

"Emblazoned" most usually means "covered with." I found a definition of "emblaze" which is also "to cover; adorn; light up" though it can mean 'to ignite' though almost nobody uses it that way. Nobody says "I'm going to emblazon the campfire."

The most correct word would be "immolate" which means "to sacrifice, usually by burning".

Harker

(14,030 posts)
8. It's a token of thanks, I'm supposing...
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 02:32 PM
Apr 19

for all that Trumpsky is enduring on behalf of his loyal followers.

calguy

(5,324 posts)
19. As Mark Twain once said...
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 03:08 PM
Apr 19

"It's easier to con someone than to convince them they've been conned."

How sad it is that some individuals believe that scientists, scholars, historians, economists, and journalists have devoted their entire lives to deceiving them, while a reality tv star with decades of fraud and exhaustively documented lying is their only beacon of truth and honesty.

Harker

(14,030 posts)
22. It's extremely sad.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 03:24 PM
Apr 19

I had so looked forward to spending old age in a more inclusive, just society than that I was born into in 1959, for everyone's sake.

dameatball

(7,399 posts)
33. So he suspected everyone except Mike Dukakis, Rob Lowe and Lisa Simpson of being involved in the conspiracy?
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 03:55 PM
Apr 19

Maybe a few more. I didn't make it entirely through his manifesto. Poor guy. What a load of buzzing bees going on inside him. Best thing I can say is he didn't harm anyone else as far as we know.

LeftInTX

(25,505 posts)
34. What's so weird: He's only 37. Born in 1986 or 1987. So at the oldest, he had just turned 2 during the convention.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 04:01 PM
Apr 19

He makes lots of references to the late 80's....

mathematic

(1,439 posts)
36. It's not so weird: he understands these events through "both sides" revisionism
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 04:14 PM
Apr 19

Before learning his age, I would have guessed about 40.

The mid-90s Simpsons are part of his manifesto and he echos the "not a dimes worth of difference" criticisms of the Democrats propagated by Nader suggests the 2000 election might have been the first one he experienced with intellectual maturity (that is, at least an adolescent).

He makes the idea that Republicans and Democrats are secretly teaming up to screw over regular people into his whole personality and then reinterprets his entire experience including Simpsons episodes he first saw as a child to support that notion.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,423 posts)
12. Most of the replies here are assuming this was a Trump supporter,
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 02:42 PM
Apr 19

but I've yet to see anything confirming that.
Did I miss that?

onenote

(42,739 posts)
17. It's DU. Where a lot of posters don't need no stinking confirmation. They assume.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 03:04 PM
Apr 19

And then, they end up being wrong. As apparently is the case here.

See https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143228065#post30

Irish_Dem

(47,289 posts)
27. Trump will enjoy the death no matter the cause.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 03:42 PM
Apr 19

It is connected to his trial and he will make it about himself.

GreenWave

(6,765 posts)
30. Ruh roh, from the very link you provided:
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 03:48 PM
Apr 19

Court records show Azzarello had filed a lawsuit in Manhattan federal court back in April 2023 against over 100 defendants — including the likes of Bill and Hillary Clinton, the country of Saudi Arabia, Mark Cuban, Richard Branson, and Ross Peron.

Notice which side is not featured? They are but lip service for the most part in his conspiracy laden manifesto.

onenote

(42,739 posts)
48. Have you read his "manifesto"? Did you miss these statements?
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 06:06 PM
Apr 19

These statements are just "lip service"? Point to one pro-Trump statement in his writings. There are none. But there are these statements:

"The U.S. government is fully involved in this totalitarian con: To illustrate its bipartisan support, I’ll note that nearly every participant of the Clinton Global Initiative has ties to cryptocurrency, while two of the biggest tech VCs who participated are Trump associates Josh Kushner and Anthony Scaramucci."

"...our government is conning us completely. That Bill Clinton was secretly on (former CIA Director) George H.W. Bush’s side, and that the Democrat vs. Republican division has been entirely manufactured ever since: Clinton is with Bush; Gore is with Bush; Trump is with Hillary, and so on. When they present themselves in public, they are acting as characters that are against one another, practicing kayfabe as wrestlers do.
As it turns out, we have a secret kleptocracy: Both parties are run by financial criminals whose only goals are to divide, deceive, and bleed us dry. They divide the public against itself and blame the other party while everything gets worse and more expensive and handful of people take all the money."

"In the decades since [the election of George H.W. Bush], the angry partisanship between democrats and republicans was all a fascist charade to divide the public against itself while they all ramped up militarism, privatized industry, and gutted social safety nets. Bush, Clinton, Obama, Trump, Biden: These are characters playing pretend, just like professional wrestlers."

Do those sound the words of a Trumper to you? There isn't a single positive word about Trump anywhere in his ravings. Do you really think someone who is decrying militarism, privatization, and the gutting of social safety nets is a Trumper? His lawsuit against the Clinton Foundation was a nonsensical pile of conspiratorial madness in which the Foundation was just one of 50 co-defendants that he thinks somehow are tied to a cryptocurrency-related Ponzi scheme against the world. The only thing that's surprising is that he didn't name cartoon character Lisa Simpson as a defendant since he believes she played an immensely important role in this conspiracy ( along with the Doors, Beatles, Devo, and a list far too long to repeat here ).

Polybius

(15,465 posts)
35. I soon as I heard it I knew it wasn't a Trump supporter
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 04:02 PM
Apr 19

They don't do that. Most who set themselves on fire aren't right-wing.

Codifer

(548 posts)
52. Agreed.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 07:21 PM
Apr 19

If a trumper idiot were to set his self on fire, that act would be on the Fourth of July and would be preceded by "Hold my beer!".

Joinfortmill

(14,448 posts)
13. Horrible situation. I read he was still alive when the ambulance took him away. Can't imagine he'll survive this.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 02:43 PM
Apr 19

Karma13612

(4,554 posts)
15. Depends on many things.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 02:55 PM
Apr 19

The person was obviously in need of mental help.

I had a “will never forget it as long as I live” encounter with someone who self-immolated.
Working in a hospital, in the Bronx, not paying attention where I was going and ran smack dab into such a person. He was ambulating just fine. I could see all his scarred skin and bandages right up close. I was in my early 20’s and still remember his name. He was well known at the hospital and was mentally ill. He survived but not sure what happened to him since I was only there for a summer Pharmacy Internship.

Warpy

(111,325 posts)
24. Depends on the location and depth of burns
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 03:33 PM
Apr 19

and whether or not he inhaled the flames.

Surviving burns is a long, nasty process.

I have to think this person had some pretty intense mental health issues that might have resulted in something like this even if TFG had never been born.

This is just sad.

ProfessorGAC

(65,136 posts)
43. Back In The 80s...
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 05:05 PM
Apr 19

...I had a occasional guitar student (friend of 2 regular students) who got very badly burned in a garage incident. (After 40 years, I can't recall the details.)
It took YEARS of treatment & surgeries before he was out of the woods.
Now an adult, you'd meet few more well-adjusted people, despite the trauma he experienced.
He was one tough & resilient guy.

FakeNoose

(32,713 posts)
14. Unless he left all his money to Chump in his will, I don't think he'll notice
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 02:45 PM
Apr 19

Meanwhile the media will crank out stories about this mentally-ill person just for the clicks.

bucolic_frolic

(43,254 posts)
31. What a mental state he must have been in, to have offed himself over ....
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 03:54 PM
Apr 19

over the predicament that Trump is in? Is that safe to postulate? So rigid in his mind that he knew what was happening and eager to sacrifice his own life in a gruesome manner. Horrible. I don't know where to put blame, if any. This doesn't even qualify as fighting like hell.

mahina

(17,693 posts)
39. I can't imagine the pain he must be going through.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 04:27 PM
Apr 19

If the goal is to end oneʻs life, that seems like unreliable method.

scipan

(2,353 posts)
37. Yes I read most of it too. Not a plain maga.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 04:16 PM
Apr 19

A uniparty believer, along with a bunch of conspiracy theories mostly involving crypto and Peter Theil.

His writing is fairly articulate, though the content is pretty crazy.

LeftInTX

(25,505 posts)
56. He had formerly worked on Democratic campaigns and even trolled Newt Gingrich while wearing a Bernie shirt
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 02:18 AM
Apr 20

He was mentally ill. Went down a bunch of CT rabbit holes. He really got into this crypto currency ponzi scheme belief, but also held a belief that any capitalist was evil. He had CT about the Simpsons, movies and music. He got into Qanon theories too.

Oopsie Daisy

(2,674 posts)
45. Other than "themself" what would you recommend?
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 05:14 PM
Apr 19

In general, "themself" is the recommended gender-neutral singular reflexive pronoun to use in a headline like this. It avoids making assumptions about the gender identity of the individual described.

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