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BumRushDaShow

(167,130 posts)
Sun May 5, 2024, 05:32 AM May 2024

Vehicle crashes into White House gate, killing driver; Secret Service says 'no threat

Source: ABC News

May 5, 2024, 2:53 AM


A vehicle traveling "at a high rate of speed" crashed into a gate at the White House complex late Saturday, killing the driver, a U.S. Secret Service spokesperson said.

There was "no threat" to the White House after the vehicle crashed into a barricade just before 10:30 p.m., officials said in a statement.

"Security protocols were implemented as officers cleared the vehicle and attempted to render aid to the driver who was discovered deceased," the statement said.

The Washington Metropolitan Police will investigate the crash alongside the Secret Service.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/vehicle-crashes-white-house-gate-killing-driver-secret/story?id=109936751

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Vehicle crashes into White House gate, killing driver; Secret Service says 'no threat (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2024 OP
Bizarre. Suicide? Lack of research? Stochastic probe? Bernardo de La Paz May 2024 #1
I was in Washington DC years ago, and no traffic was allowed in front of the WH. Irish_Dem May 2024 #2
I was wondering the same thing. RipVanWinkle May 2024 #3
When I was there, the streets were blocked off in front of the WH. Irish_Dem May 2024 #4
I think the event occurred at the edge of the White House Campus. John1956PA May 2024 #16
I was there as an adult when it was allowed through, then later in Clinton's term it changed. electric_blue68 May 2024 #31
How fast do you have to go to kill yourself in a car ramming a gate? Irish_Dem May 2024 #5
Am wondering if it is a DUI or DWI BumRushDaShow May 2024 #6
Or heart attack at the wheel. 3Hotdogs May 2024 #17
Yup or even a stuck accelerator BumRushDaShow May 2024 #18
I hadn't seen the video on that. So that car was ballistic. BootinUp May 2024 #26
Yeah BumRushDaShow May 2024 #29
Generally trees are stronger than gates, but this was a white house gate Captain Zero May 2024 #32
Yes you would have to be driving fast to kill yourself. Irish_Dem May 2024 #19
The gate/fence is an immovable object so 30 mph will probably do it. FSogol May 2024 #7
I think you have to be moving faster than that to kill yourself. Irish_Dem May 2024 #20
Hitting an immovable object doubles the effect of the impact. FSogol May 2024 #24
You make a good point. I would like to see what the gate looks like. BootinUp May 2024 #25
Interesting Irish_Dem May 2024 #28
Over 40 be my guess. But there are many variables of course. BootinUp May 2024 #8
From a YouTube video last night it ran into a concrete barrier csziggy May 2024 #30
Concrete is a stronger obstacle than a gate. Irish_Dem May 2024 #34
Those barriers are specifically designed to stop high speed crashes IronLionZion May 2024 #36
Depends on many factors. forgotmylogin May 2024 #33
Yes perhaps not wearing his seatbelt or a medical problem. Irish_Dem May 2024 #35
Did the driver have a red hat? gab13by13 May 2024 #9
That was my first thought. Irish_Dem May 2024 #21
The chances of that are 100% ffr May 2024 #22
This is making me suspect that the driver experienced an acute medical emergency. littlemissmartypants May 2024 #10
This 👆 Roy Rolling May 2024 #11
That's what I thought...given airbags etc JT45242 May 2024 #13
unless it was an old car. any modern car, the driver survives that crash. mopinko May 2024 #14
Thank you for taking COL Mustard May 2024 #15
❤️ littlemissmartypants May 2024 #23
Would be the start to a riveting spy thriller bucolic_frolic May 2024 #12
"We have to cover it up," the pathologist told the secret service agent... Bucky May 2024 #38
LOL, yeah that'il get them going bucolic_frolic May 2024 #39
Local article: happybird May 2024 #27
Yet Republicans keep on poking sticks at the zoo animals among Us Bucky May 2024 #37
Test run to see how impermeable the fence is? onetexan May 2024 #40
Dare I dream that it's a Trump advisor working on TFG's return to the White House options? Kennah May 2024 #41
Only being investigated as a traffic crash muriel_volestrangler May 2024 #42

Irish_Dem

(80,411 posts)
4. When I was there, the streets were blocked off in front of the WH.
Sun May 5, 2024, 05:45 AM
May 2024

You could walk or ride a bike in front of the WH.
But no cars.

So either that has changed, or this driver was not supposed to be there.
It was not a traffic accident as claimed?

John1956PA

(4,892 posts)
16. I think the event occurred at the edge of the White House Campus.
Sun May 5, 2024, 07:14 AM
May 2024

I am thinking that the crash site is blocks away from the White House structure.

3Hotdogs

(15,147 posts)
17. Or heart attack at the wheel.
Sun May 5, 2024, 07:20 AM
May 2024

I was 18 and working on the municipal road department sweeping gravel off the street after a seal coating operation. The road was curved and a car came around the bend but didn't take the curve --- headed straight for us.

We ran away and the car continued on and ran into an oak tree on the berm.


Cops said the driver was dead at the wheel..

BumRushDaShow

(167,130 posts)
29. Yeah
Sun May 5, 2024, 11:13 AM
May 2024

I had seen various vids from different angles around the time it happened including one that showed some of the car going airborne before a building blocked the view but this video really showed it.

Irish_Dem

(80,411 posts)
19. Yes you would have to be driving fast to kill yourself.
Sun May 5, 2024, 07:35 AM
May 2024

Which sounds like some sort of impairment.
Drugs, alcohol, maybe a medical problem.

Maybe not wearing a seatbelt?

IronLionZion

(50,995 posts)
36. Those barriers are specifically designed to stop high speed crashes
Sun May 5, 2024, 06:22 PM
May 2024

so the driver never had a chance. It wasn't going to end well at any speed.

forgotmylogin

(7,944 posts)
33. Depends on many factors.
Sun May 5, 2024, 01:22 PM
May 2024
When the cars are going slowly, the risk of serious injury hovers at about 1%. When the speed goes to 50 mph, the risk of injury increases to about 69%, with the risk of severe injuries or fatality going up to 52%. When either car is going 70 miles per hour or more, a fatality or serious injury is almost guaranteed.


This is why there is constant urging for people to wear seat belts no matter how short a trip or how fast they are going. A seat belt can't help if a vehicle is crushed, or someone drives off a cliff or flips the car into water, but most auto accidents people will experience aren't that extreme and a seat belt improves survivability and thus escapability in minor or moderate accidents.

A 40 mph dead-stop impact with a brick wall while wearing the seat belt might cause bruising from the seat belt and moderate injuries but is much more survivable if it prevents your face, skull, and body from slamming into the dashboard, the windshield, or the steering wheel. One possibility in accidents is the steering wheel will break off and reveal sharp edges that are no good if you're flung into them at 30mph. Without being restrained by your belt, there's much more chance of serious facial or eye injuries, teeth knocked out, blunt force trauma, and potentially going unconscious which may waste precious time the driver has to escape if a fire occurs. In the rare instance where a car flips or tumbles, you definitely want to be secured and hopefully conscious when you come to a stop instead of being tumbled rag-doll inside where random parts of your body will impact everything and cause unconsciousness, and broken bones or injuries that prevent you from exiting the vehicle before help arrives.

A lot of secure areas and stores have those deeply excavated metal poles or concrete planters essentially "immovable objects" to prevent a car from hitting a less secure door and causing more damage. And there's always unknown factors and pre-existing conditions - even a minor survivable crash can trigger a heart attack or a brain-bleed from an arterial weak place or aneurism that just needed one good impact to set it off.

ffr

(23,335 posts)
22. The chances of that are 100%
Sun May 5, 2024, 07:39 AM
May 2024

Allegedly, just another impressionable brain damaged maggot who decided that after seeing his world view shattered, was going to go down in his own, I-can't-handle-the-truth-that-Trump-is-a-Russian-asset-and-an-American-traitor, ball of glory.

littlemissmartypants

(32,802 posts)
10. This is making me suspect that the driver experienced an acute medical emergency.
Sun May 5, 2024, 06:36 AM
May 2024

...Was possibly deceased or incapacitated before the crash even.

Condolences to family and friends of the driver. ❤️

Roy Rolling

(7,516 posts)
11. This 👆
Sun May 5, 2024, 06:43 AM
May 2024

I sense a smartypants with the sense to determine a drunk driver from a diabetic emergency. But even without that context, until the facts come out I’ll go with a medical emergency. Why stress?

JT45242

(3,923 posts)
13. That's what I thought...given airbags etc
Sun May 5, 2024, 07:04 AM
May 2024

Modern cars with crumple zones, air bags, etc usually don't have fatalities in one car accidents that don't have a roll over.

Plus I can't imagine given the traffic near the white house that you could get up a lot of speed in most cars.

COL Mustard

(8,063 posts)
15. Thank you for taking
Sun May 5, 2024, 07:09 AM
May 2024

The high road. I’m sure there will be more information, so we could all give a little grace to the person who died.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
38. "We have to cover it up," the pathologist told the secret service agent...
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:52 PM
May 2024

"... but this driver died 5 hours ago... from getting a covid vaccine!!!"

bucolic_frolic

(54,487 posts)
39. LOL, yeah that'il get them going
Mon May 6, 2024, 06:14 AM
May 2024

Q-Anon at the Gates of the White House. And it was a satellite-guided Tesla on auto-pilot, so someone wanted him dead!

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
37. Yet Republicans keep on poking sticks at the zoo animals among Us
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:50 PM
May 2024

I foresee January 6th becoming the quadrennial ritual for at least a decade. Well, probably it'll be December 15th at half a dozen state capitals this year. But they really are determined to create some violence in our elections. It's disgusting

muriel_volestrangler

(105,830 posts)
42. Only being investigated as a traffic crash
Mon May 6, 2024, 01:27 PM
May 2024

The vehicle crashed into a security barrier around the White House complex. At this time, the incident is being investigated only as a traffic crash by MPD’s Major Crash Investigations Unit.


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