Hamas accepts Egypt, Qatar's ceasefire proposal, Al Jazeera reports

[Kennah]

Source: Reuters

Hamas told Egyptian and Qatari mediators that it had accepted their Gaza ceasefire proposal, Qatari broadcaster Al Jazeera reported on Monday, citing a leading Hamas official.

There was no immediate comment from Hamas.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-accepts-egypt-qatars-ceasefire-proposal-al-jazeera-reports-2024-05-06/

[JohnSJ]

1. Lets see if Hamas abides by it, or more important if their factions abide by it.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/hamas-says-it-accepts-egyptian-qatari-cease-fire-proposal

It is from their political wing

[wnylib]

16. Rafah is Hamas' last stronghold in Gaza. It is

the network under Rafah where weapons and supplies get smuggled into Gaza for Hamas.

That is the ONLY reason why Hamas is agreeing to the ceasefire. If their underground compound in Rafah is left intact, they will be able to make it the center for rebuilding their striking power against Israel.

Israel is determined to destroy Hamas completely. So they might go after Rafah anyway, which would be strategically good for destroying Hamas, but politically bad for Israel because it would make Israel into the "bad guy" who refused peace.

It would be like the Allies in WWII defeating the Nazis in conquered countries, but failing to go into Germany itself to completely defeat them.

[RandySF]

2. It took the prospect of getting hammered again to accept.

[maxsolomon]

10. I noted that immediately.

That pressure got Hamas to change their "permanent" requirement pretty fast. They'd just walked away from negotiations the day before.

[AZLD4Candidate]

3. How long before they break it?

[Kennah]

5. First step will be IF there are 30 hostages stilll alive for Hamas to release

[AZLD4Candidate]

9. IF there aren't, negiotations are cut off and the IDF goes in after them. Hamas is not to be trusted

Unlike what their useful protestors think, they aren't freedom fighters and they aren't trustworthy. "From the River to the Sea" is a call for mass murder. IF they could they would have already. Israel can, but won't, no matter what the protestors or the anti-Israel hyperbolic drivel people say and think says.

[maxsolomon]

7. How about we just focus on whether it's actually going to happen?

I'd like to see hostages freed and famine averted.

[AZLD4Candidate]

18. I am focusing on what IS going to happen. Hamas will break it. I'm just wondering how long it will take.

[maxsolomon]

22. You're focusing on events down the road.

Sure, Hamas will break the ceasefire. But let's get one in place 1st - although this all looks to be nothing more than a press exercise now...

[AZLD4Candidate]

23. And WHEN Hamas does, I'm sure the world and many people here will blame Israel

and WHEN Israel retaliates again, I'm sure the world AND many people here will attack Israel.

[iemanja]

24. Israel refused to abide by a cease fire

and you're pretending Hamas is the problem?

[maxsolomon]

25. Hamas is the intrasigent party in the current ceasefire negotiations.

Israel has compromised its negotiating position repeatedly. So, yes, Hamas is the problem, and yes, there are lots of problems.

I don't know what ceasefire you assert Israel didn't abide by. The one in November that ended when Hamas shot Israelis waiting for a bus?

[MOMFUDSKI]

4. Net don't want no stinking deal.

He has to keep it going until hell freezes over and then some.

[maxsolomon]

13. "Net" has agreed to the outline of this ceasefire deal for months.

and Israel recently reduced their initial hostage release number demands. Hamas has been the obstinate party because they insisted on a permanent ceasefire and IDF withdrawal.

Why the kneejerk dismissal?

[CincyDem]

6. How will this Hamas cease fire commitment be different from the one that was in place at 6am local time on 10/7/23 ?

[nowforever]

8. Good

Finally a little sanity on both sides.

[LauraInLA]

11. Didn't Hamas just attack the newly opened aid gate?

[Voltaire2]

26. They attacked IDF forces at the 'gate'.

But there is no ceasefire agreement until all parties sign on to it. So I don’t understand your point.

[RussBLib]

12. Has Israel accepted it?

.....that wasn't mentioned in the brief article.

[maxsolomon]

14. The news is too fresh for that - the change is Hamas agreeing.

Israel had agreed to the outline of this deal long ago - and it's not JUST Egypt and Qatar's terms - it's the US, too. The CIA Director's been directly involved.

CNN:

A diplomatic source familiar with the talks told CNN that after a day-long meeting in Doha, Qatar’s capital, between CIA Director William Burns and Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani, mediators convinced Hamas to accept a three-part deal.

Hopefully, this gets finalized and enacted today.

[Beastly Boy]

15. Hamas did not accept the proposal that was on the table.

They accepted their own proposal, which differs significantly from the Egyptian proposal that Israel agreed to.

Hamas keeps playing games, and I doubt Israel is in the mood to play.

[Voltaire2]

27. The proposal was modified by Egypt and Qatar

and those modifications were minor changes to the language, not substantial changes to the proposal. This remains almost entirely the original US and Israeli proposal.

[Beastly Boy]

28. Did Hamas accept THIS proposal?

As far as I know, Israel did. Then, two days ago, hamas modified it and "accepted" their own modified version.

Would you accept a five dollar bill where I crossed out "5" and wrote "6" in its place for six singles? After all, it's a very minor change!

[Voltaire2]

29. Yes.

[Beastly Boy]

31. That's it? No need to back it up?

Mmm... kay!

[ificandream]

17. Heard on MSNBC a little while ago that Israel is saying that the "agreement" is not what Israel agreed to.

Hopefully this can get worked out.

[Tennessee Hillbilly]

19. From the Aljazeera (English) website:

Khalil al-Hayya, a member of Hamas’s political bureau, told Al Jazeera Arabic that the Qatari-Egyptian proposal includes a withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza and a return of displaced Palestinians to their homes, as well as an exchange of Israeli captives and Palestinian prisoners.

The proposal includes a three-stage truce, each phase lasting 42 days, according to al-Hayya.

In the first phase, indirect negotiations through mediators will resume on the exchange of captives and prisoners. A withdrawal of some Israeli troops from certain areas will also take place, as well as the unhindered return of displaced families to their homes, and the flow of aid, fuel and relief materials into Gaza, he said.

Read more:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/6/hamas-accepts-qatari-egyptian-proposal-for-gaza-ceasefire

[maxsolomon]

20. What seems new is that Hamas is dropping their demand for a permanent end, but not for IDF withdrawal.

IDF is not agreeing to withdraw. That has been their position for months.

[SunSeeker]

21. So Hamas accepted their own proposal, not what Israel offered. What a joke.

This is just Hamas seeking to delay Israel from taking out the last remaining Hamas battalion, currently hiding in Rafah, hiding under women and children.

[NickB79]

30. Hamas must be big fans of Parks and Rec

[SunSeeker]

32. LOL So is the media, considering how many went with that ridiculous headline! nt