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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Fri May 10, 2024, 09:57 AM May 2024

The DNC Is Preparing for the Worst in Chicago -- Without the Help of the City's Mayor

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Source: Politico

CHICAGO — President Joe Biden’s top advisers are all too aware the ghosts of 1968 may haunt their convention here, but they’re grappling with a pair of more urgent and thoroughly modern-day challenges as summer nears: How far can they go in reprising their virtual 2020 convention to mitigate the threat of disruption inside the arena, and how will they navigate a rookie mayor who unabashedly sympathizes with protesters?

Trumpeting the success of their Covid-era convention four years ago, some in Biden’s orbit are aggressively pushing to make the 2024 conclave a hybrid production. That would mean in-person speeches from the president, party luminaries and rising stars to draw television attention alongside a mix of pre-recorded testimonials and videos from other parts of the country.

The goal: drive maximum viewership on television and the internet while minimizing live programming and openings for protest in Chicago’s United Center. This would mean moving party business, such as rules and platform votes, off the floor and denying would-be demonstrators a chance to seize on contentious debates.

While the Biden campaign, White House and convention planners have only just started hatching plans, senior Democrats tell me they’re discussing whether to conduct such business before the convention even begins or move it out of the arena and across town to McCormick Place, their other Chicago venue. Serendipitously, Biden’s advisers may have a very good reason to move up such housekeeping: If the Ohio Legislature does not relax its ballot certification deadline, which is before the Democrats’ August convention, the DNC may have no choice but to technically nominate the president before the conclave begins.


Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/05/10/rookie-mayor-chicago-dnc-00157208

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The DNC Is Preparing for the Worst in Chicago -- Without the Help of the City's Mayor (Original Post) brooklynite May 2024 OP
That's just great. If the mayor does not want to help, bottomofthehill May 2024 #1
Why would the DNC or the Secret Service use private contractors? brooklynite May 2024 #3
The Dems should pull out and go to Milwaukee bottomofthehill May 2024 #2
You have no idea what's involved in setting up a Convention. brooklynite May 2024 #4
Actually I have a pretty good idea bottomofthehill May 2024 #6
I'm not talking about security arrangements; I'm talking about logistics brooklynite May 2024 #11
Your OP is talking about making most of the Convention virtual Prairie Gates May 2024 #12
I was responding to someone proposing to move things to Milwaukee. brooklynite May 2024 #14
Because the mayor is willing to be an active participant in the success of the event bottomofthehill May 2024 #13
Wonder how many people in the Chicago PD... malthaussen May 2024 #5
Half the Chicago PD is non-Whiter and 20% are women. brooklynite May 2024 #7
Which is relevant to my idle question how? malthaussen May 2024 #10
There are already t-shirts popping up bottomofthehill May 2024 #9
ROTFL malthaussen May 2024 #15
Almost makes you wonder limbicnuminousity May 2024 #16
Sounds like a deeply fucking stupid idea Prairie Gates May 2024 #8
Oh Geez LeftInTX May 2024 #17
Locking after an alert and a discussion by the hosts Yonnie3 May 2024 #18

bottomofthehill

(9,391 posts)
1. That's just great. If the mayor does not want to help,
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:03 AM
May 2024

There is always Blackwater, that’s a good look.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
3. Why would the DNC or the Secret Service use private contractors?
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:20 AM
May 2024

bottomofthehill

(9,391 posts)
2. The Dems should pull out and go to Milwaukee
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:05 AM
May 2024

The city and state are already ready for a convention as the republicans are going there in July.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
4. You have no idea what's involved in setting up a Convention.
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:22 AM
May 2024

You need tens of thousands of hotel rooms, meeting spaces, event venues, all of which were booked months in advance.

Add to which, Milwaukee doesn't have enough hotel rooms (for the 2020 Convention), some delegations were going to be 90 minutes away at O'Hare Airport.

bottomofthehill

(9,391 posts)
6. Actually I have a pretty good idea
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:39 AM
May 2024

I also have a pretty good understanding of who controls what,
First, the DNC only has security contractors, they do not control any law enforcement agency, not Federal, not State and not Local. They use companies like Allied and Securitas. Usually it’s the private vendor that secure the site they are renting. The Secret Service is the Lead Agency inside the event and securing the perimeter and are the lead planner as the conventions are NSSE Events. The problem with an NSSE is that it puts the Service in charge of Federal not local assets. The local police agency (in this case Chicago PD) is the lead for the great majority of the external security. You can’t do it with out them, and the optics outside are as important as the optics inside at a convention. It’s amazing what can be done when you know you are facing a shit show, and sometimes looking into other options help the host city see the light.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
11. I'm not talking about security arrangements; I'm talking about logistics
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:48 AM
May 2024

Democratic conventions have a larger turnout than Republican ones, and you can't suddenly grab every hotel room within 50 miles on three months notice. The Fiserve Forum is already booked for events in August. And it never had the resources for all the ancillary events that will occur ( I worked out of Milwaukee in the 2022 election).

Add to which, why would Milwaukee (1,600 police officers) be any better prepared to handle protests than Chicago. What happened three generations ago is irrelevant.

Prairie Gates

(8,164 posts)
12. Your OP is talking about making most of the Convention virtual
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:52 AM
May 2024

Why do you keep talking about booked hotel rooms and the ironclad law of logistics when the story you yourself posted is about Dem bigwigs turning on a dime to a non-presence convention?



 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
14. I was responding to someone proposing to move things to Milwaukee.
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:59 AM
May 2024

And, NO, the article DOESN'T discuss making the Convention virtual (I've already got a room and credentials commitment). It talks about some of the procedural elements and roll call (which honestly worked far better in 2020 than the usual live speeches).

bottomofthehill

(9,391 posts)
13. Because the mayor is willing to be an active participant in the success of the event
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:53 AM
May 2024

If you read the article. It is about the fear of what may happen and how the DNC may need to change the convention format

malthaussen

(18,573 posts)
5. Wonder how many people in the Chicago PD...
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:34 AM
May 2024

... have fathers or grandfathers who participated in the Police Riot of 1968? Law enforcement is a family business, after all.

-- Mal

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
7. Half the Chicago PD is non-Whiter and 20% are women.
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:41 AM
May 2024

malthaussen

(18,573 posts)
10. Which is relevant to my idle question how?
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:45 AM
May 2024

I'm sure there were non-Whites who participated in the Police Riots. No women, though, in '68 I think most of the women on the Force didn't have street jobs.

-- Mal

bottomofthehill

(9,391 posts)
9. There are already t-shirts popping up
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:43 AM
May 2024

Front of shirt
Chicago Police Department 1968-2024.

Back of shirt
We kicked your grandfathers ass now we will kick yours.

malthaussen

(18,573 posts)
15. ROTFL
Fri May 10, 2024, 11:00 AM
May 2024

The first game I ever got in my subscription to Strategy and Tactics magazine back in 1973 was "Chicago, Chicago," a simulation of the 1968 demonstrations and subsequent police riot.

-- Mal

limbicnuminousity

(1,416 posts)
16. Almost makes you wonder
Fri May 10, 2024, 11:35 AM
May 2024

if that mindset doesn't have something to do with 17 cop cars being blown up in Portland.

Prairie Gates

(8,164 posts)
8. Sounds like a deeply fucking stupid idea
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:41 AM
May 2024

"We're still in COVID restrictions because we're scared of protesters - on our side of the aisle. Vote for us!"

This is the braintrust of the Demcratic party elite, or "some in Biden's orbit." Fuck's sake.

LeftInTX

(34,310 posts)
17. Oh Geez
Fri May 10, 2024, 12:43 PM
May 2024

Yonnie3

(19,466 posts)
18. Locking after an alert and a discussion by the hosts
Fri May 10, 2024, 05:33 PM
May 2024

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