Grover Norquist: 'Tea Party Two Is Going To Dwarf Tea Party One (if Obama pushes us off the cliff)'

[michigandem58]

Source: Huffington Post

As elected officials from both sides of the partisan aisle embed themselves in fiscal cliff negotiations, Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist remains at the center of the conversation.

In a Sunday roundtable discussion on NBC's "Meet The Press," Norquist issued a warning to President Barack Obama.

"Tea party two is going to dwarf tea party one if Obama pushes us off the cliff," Norquist said. "Let's not pretend who's pushing us over the cliff."





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[mike_c]

1. that was directed straight at the fringe who constitute his die hard true believers....

"Let's not pretend who's pushing us over the cliff." Uh huh.

[Vincardog]

108. He does realize that TP1 was about unfair tax breaks for corporations and the rich doesn't he?

[FredStembottom]

2. It's gonna have f#cking cucumber sammitches!!!

[Squinch]

17. LOL!

[Marie Marie]

42. Double that...

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

89. With the crust cut off? Gimme some f#cking Earl Grey, too!

f#ck teabaggers
f#ck grover

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

131. Good one

[still_one]

3. or maybe norquist becomes an irrelevent pimp, and while I am at it, fuck nbc for giving this guy

airtime

[LovingA2andMI]

65. And he was on TV

Because? Any reason? Any purpose at all?

NOPE!



Screw Meet The Press. Haven't watch since Tim R. passed....

[still_one]

67. same here

[olegramps]

88. I will second that. It is a worthless waste of time and electricity.

[sheshe2]

4. What a Miserable little toad!

[RKP5637]

26. An ugly little man in mind, spirit and appearance! n/t

[xtraxritical]

57. Soooooooooo true!

[AlbertCat]

5. Grover Norquist remains at the center of the conversation.

What conversation?

It's just Grover uttering more nonsense.

What "cliff"?

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. "Tea Party II - When One Batch Of Assholes Isn't Enough"

Grover is losing his grip, he just doesn't understnd that yet.

[Squinch]

19. Tea Party II also known as Porky's Revenge.

[Marie Marie]

44. Tea Party II? More like Tea Party 2.0 because

the first version crashed.

[Kablooie]

7. Who's pushing us over the cliff?

Obama submits a proposal to prevent going over the cliff.

The GOP screams and stomps and presents no counter proposal.

So Norquill has a point.
Let's not pretend who's pushing us over the cliff.

[Overseas]

53. Well said!

[oldhippydude]

8. bull shit Grover

call your bluff

[Gman]

9. A brilliant strategy to elect more Republicans

LOL!

[Flatpicker]

10. So TP2

Will be a subset of TP1?

If so, I'm ok with it.
I figure, at the rate he is moving TP subset 5 will consist of Norquist and Limpbawls.

[DJ13]

11. Grover's scared

If the fictional "cliff" happens his pledge is history.

[MindMover]

12. How can one squirrely lobbyist hold the largest most powerful nation in the world ...

HOSTAGE ...

[Permanut]

13. I guess I've forgotten who it was,,

who voted Grover in as the head of practically everything. Ditto KKKarl and Rush.

[RickFromMN]

14. How will the Koch brothers react when Norquist's friends push the United States into default?

In my mind, going over the Fiscal Cliff is a done deal.

Next up, raising the debt limit.

The President must stand firm and must not cave to bullies during the debt limit fracas.

I hope the President gets to make a list of programs to sequester.
I hope that list is heavy on Republican sacred cows.
Which programs can the President sequester/freeze by Executive order?

I would love to see a thread, somewhere, listing Republican sacred cows.
I honestly don't have such a list.
I would love to see a check mark by those programs that can be frozen/sequestered by Executive order.

The Koch brothers do fund the Tea Party don't they?

[freshwest]

61. Yes, the Koches fund the Tea Party, Libertarians and most CT. They want default, though. Really.

[jeff47]

64. Actually, the debt limit isn't a problem either.

Congress passed bill A that says "Spend this much".

Congress passed bill B that says "Don't borrow more than this".

If nothing changes, those two laws will be in conflict. Obama can't follow bill A and spend the money, because that would run afoul of bill B. Likewise, Obama can't follow bill B and not borrow money, because that would run afoul of bill A.

When this happened in the past, the Executive branch picked which of the two laws they will be following and asked Congress to resolve the conflict.

So Obama can choose to follow bill A and ignore bill B until Congress resolves the conflict.

[RickFromMN]

117. Interesting. I didn't know the Executive branch could pick the one to follow.

[bhikkhu]

15. A "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" kind of cliff, after all

Those guys are so full of crap.

I still think the main reason they're out spreading doom is they've probably got bets on treasuries and the markets lined up to take maximum advantage of any mess they can conjure up.

[coalition_unwilling]

69. They call that 'hedging' :) - n/t

[jtuck004]

16. Doing twice as much of the same dumb stuff's gonna get you a better result? Optimist. n/t

[shanti]

94. double down

that's been their mantra this year.

[TomCADem]

18. Of Course, Media Gives RW A Free Pass On Talking Points

The right wing gets to blame Democrats for not being bipartisan while also getting a free pass for being vague as to what cuts they are demanding.

[canuckledragger]

20. "Tea Party Two Is Going To Dwarf Tea Party One"

...if by dwarf he means those teabaggers that went scarfing down any twinkie they could sniff out once they found out the company was going out of business...

Then yeah, they'll 'dwarf' TP1 alright!

[Fire Walk With Me]

21. "Tea party 3D: This time it's personal."

GASP

[Squinch]

29. Ewwwww!

"Personal" and "Grover Norquist" in the same mental picture...

I'm going to wash my hands now.

[Fire Walk With Me]

116. Sorry; was only riffing from the film title "Jaws 3D". It was a flop

as hopefully shall be any and all "tea party" anything

[Squinch]

121. No, no! I got the reference and laughed. But then Grover's ickiness came to mind.

[Squinch]

22. And Tea Party 3? Don't even ASK him about Tea Party 3! It's going to be HUGE!

[AAO]

27. Tea Party 3! It's going to be HUGH!

[Squinch]

28. LOL!

They're going to demand traditional marridge, and then they're going to secdee! You WAIT!!!!

[coalition_unwilling]

70. In picture form:

[Turborama]

77. Wow, those morans are series!

[Squinch]

119. Hughly.

[oldbanjo]

73. They must be going to the insane

asylum for this group.

[rucky]

78. They're making that one in 3-D

[Squinch]

120. I wish I was talented at Photoshop. I have a mental picture of an angry woman of about 65

with one of those tea bagger hats and a pair of 3D glasses!

And she's insulted that no one is taking her seriously!



Edited: I looked down at my own largeness, and thought better of calling her fat.

[neverforget]

23. And it will be infinitely crazier and dumb

[1ProudAtheist]

24. Roll Them Around

in your mouth and tickle them with your tongue while you are at it.

[libdem4life]

25. Send him to Sesame Street for a Time Out and review of Playground Rules.

[ut oh]

122. and maybe

have Big Bird have a word or two with him...

[libdem4life]

125. I can see it ... Big Bird's yellow wing on his drooping shoulder ... "Here's the thing, Mitt..."

[SoapBox]

30. It's over Grover...Fuck Off!

You are being exposed daily, as a creepy weasel, hiding in the shadows...oh ya, you're NOT even elected to any position!

Fuck OFF!

[november3rd]

31. Archaic

The debate is over. We can't grow the economy unless we massively convert to sustainable energy and agriculture, and adopt a more equitable system of wealth distribution.

Let's throw out all the hawks along with the ostriches.

Times have changed.

Our primary purpose is to protect ourselves from extinction by protecting our planet's ecology... quick!

[JoeyT]

32. I can't wait to see tea party two.

Given that the teabaggers failed to deliver for their corporate masters in the long run, I doubt they'll be able to get the amount of money to run an astroturf at that level again.

[cstanleytech]

33. Tea PArty? Why dont we call it what it really is. The American Nazi Party. Afterall thats how they

come across to me with their "message".

[oldbanjo]

74. I agree with you.

[Blue Owl]

34. Red Grover Red Grover

Your bullshit flows over

[cilla4progress]

35. I'm sick of this loser's

THREATS!

[DonCoquixote]

36. Go right ahead

Yes, the Tea party will get bigger; it will do twice as much damage.

[Botany]

37. So big and powerful they just lost the last election?

bring it on Grover.

[6000eliot]

38. New slogan: "Tea Party Two: Even More Racist, Stupid, and Crazy"

[joanbarnes]

39. I say Bring It!

[PSPS]

40. LOL. So much for the "grass roots" canard.

Tea Party X will be whatever its financial underwriters (Koch brothers, Tom Delay, etc.) want it to be.

[Kablooie]

41. Here is the Tea Party Two...

[JBoy]

43. my takeaway from that was: Grover Norquist, Dwarf. n/t

[Laochtine]

45. Tea Party 2:

The Devolution

[Mr.Bill]

46. My message to Grover Norquist:

If you want to have a role in running the country, run for office or get the fuck off the stage. That's how we run this country. And the cable news networks should just ignore this idiot. I know Fox won't, but let's isolate him to there.

[Canuckistanian]

47. Tea Party 2, new and improved!

Now with 53% more batshit.

[rocktivity]

48. Who cares what he thinks?

rocktivity

[Kennah]

49. Sequels don't do well

Tea Party
Tea Party II: Party Harder
Tea Party With A Vengeance
Live Free Or Tea Party

That scene near the end of Tea Party, when Obama throws Grover off the roof of Nakatomi Plaza, is Priceless.

[The Wizard]

50. Most of the teabagger loudmouths

are old and retired. It's too cold for them to be out protesting.
Bend over Grover here it comes again. How much more are the Kochs willing to spend to influence policy? They just got hosed at the polls.
Grover Norquist is talking smegma and whistling past the grave yard.

[Baitball Blogger]

51. I hope Norquist calls them tea party 2.

Because it was obvious that moderate Republicans don't like them and taking this route will only alienate them even more.

[volstork]

52. Tea Party II = Vista

n/t

[graywarrior]

54. Who wants to volunteer to give Grover a wedgie?

He's begging for one.

[Raine]

132. it's got to be an atomic, he deserves it. nt

[Mr.Bill]

55. They can smell our fear.

They'll have twice as many tea bags hanging off their tri-cornered hats.

[mzmolly]

56. Why does the think anyone takes him seriously?

eom

[Journeyman]

58. "I'm not becoming irrelevant," he shouted, stamping his foot. "I'm not. I'm not. I'm not." . . .

"You'll see. I'm a contender!"

[BlueStreak]

59. Twice as much Astroturf nt

[harmonicon]

60. What a nitwit.

This situation was constructed by the same "tea party" congress those morons voted in and he supported. If what he really means is that the president is still black and the tea party is going to pissed off about that, I'll give that one to him.

[Springslips]

62. Tea party 2 is Troll 2

Umm, the tea party couldn't take Obama down and lost Senate and House seats. Now just what are we suppose to be scared of? Bring them on!

[aquart]

63. Funny he should use the word "dwarf"...

I keep wanting to say "Rumplestiltskin."

[Hekate]

66. Grover is given airtime because why?

Meet the Press is fairly worthless these days, but pretending he's relevant is low even for them.

[coalition_unwilling]

68. Oh, please. "Pushes us off the cliff"? WTF, the cliff was the result

of the 2011 Budget Control Act and the Republicans' refusal to raise the debt limit. If they didn't want a cliff then they should have agreed to raise the debt ceiling like their more-civilized forbears had ALWAYS DONE theretofore.

Hey, Grover, here's a threat for you: Communists and Socialists will seize all the assets of you and your backers and nationalize them unless you agree to raise taxes on the top 2% modestly.

There. See? Anyone can make threats.

[John2]

71. I've only got one

thing to say to little Napoleon.

[diane in sf]

72. Sure it will, it will be twice as dumb.

[oldbanjo]

75. Tea Party 1 made threats and other stupid things

I think the Country is more than ready for Tea Party 2.

[Sky Masterson]

76. Better do it fast

Your old white followers are dieing off.

[rucky]

79. Tea Party 2: Electric Boogaloo

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

110. OK. You win.

I'm calling it.

[Fearless]

80. Double down on the same losing strategy used in 2012? Is that a threat or a promise??

[SummerSnow]

81. Tea Party 2...

Cause we're more fucked up than the first

[SummerSnow]

82. Oh now I see...

This new Tea Party are the Baggers who are the receivers.

[polichick]

83. Nobody ever voted for this guy - his 15 minutes are up.

[liberal N proud]

84. As Clair McCaskill said: "Who is this guy?"

And why is he allowed to control the conversation here?

[marble falls]

85. Big deal. Two years and they'll have disappeared, too.

[HughBeaumont]

86. When is someone going to buck up the courage to do the following to Grover:

Call a larger-than-usual press briefing at the White House.

Summon Grover to the fucking White House for it.

Order him to get out there and tell America and the world that he, The Most Important Yard Gnome In History and the ATI, runs America now. Not the ELECTED President of the United States, not the ELECTED Representatives of the House, not the ELECTED members of the Senate and not the APPOINTEES of the Supreme Court, but Grover Norquist, Self-Appointed High EconoPope and The Most Important Yard Gnome In History. All of the aformentioned people answer to Grover now.

Say that the American people needs come second to those of the wealthy, the BETTER and MORE EQUAL citizens of this nation, thanks to a sacred and unbreakable pledge The Most Important Yard Gnome In History wrote when he was 12 years old. I'm sure Americans are going to want to be further scared to death of this Fiscal Cliff nonsense thanks to The Most Important Yard Gnome In History's petulant foot stomping, diaper-shitting and insistent whining that the oh-so-oppressed wealthy not pay even one more red cent in tax dollars.

Press is all yours, Yard Gnome. PLEASE PROCEED.

[BuelahWitch]

87. They'll have to invest in more Port-o-Potties...n/t

[Politicub]

90. They'll smell like number two, too

Just sayin.

[Sunlei]

91. Grover has to ask Koch for a raise cause no nutter works for free

[Turbineguy]

92. What do you mean "us"?

shithead.

[mopinko]

93. so he is admitting that the tea party is the invention of his money men?

that's what it sounds like to me.

[flying-skeleton]

95. From the words of George W .....

BRING IT ON !!!!

We could use another shot at Bachmann & Cantor.

[bucolic_frolic]

96. Will Rick Santelli be Tea Potty II Leader?

So GOP won't cooperate in the current Congress, pushing the US off
the fiscal cliff.

Then they won't cooperate in the new Congress, preventing all tax
cuts from being passed.

Then they blame Obama.

It's a plan. It flies in the face of GOP obstructionism, of which the
citizenry is well aware, but it's a PR plan.

The GOP doesn't realize Obama now has the public's attention.
The PR power of the Presidency helped in the campaign.
It won't be silenced.

[Javaman]

97. tea part two? a little roughage could help with that.

[closeupready]

98. When Norquist looks to Baghdad Bob for inspiration,

you know he's as much an historical footnote as Bob was.

[The Blue Flower]

99. These idiot R's remind me of Wiley Coyote

As he finds himself suspended in midair with no ground beneath him after running out of cliff. These fools have not yet awakened to the fact that they've lost. Watch that first step, it's a lulu.

[alfredo]

100. Remember the Teabaggers said "We come unarmed, this time."

[KansDem]

112. I thought those were the Freepers.

It's difficult to keep the right-wing wackos straight without a scorecard.

[alfredo]

138. It is mind numbing.

[Ash_F]

101. Tea Party 2, The Revenge.

There are sharks in the water.

[Rambis]

102. Tea party two attack of the dwarfs?

ok Grover!

[Agnosticsherbet]

103. Bring it on. Ive got my dictionary.

Won't rest until we've shrunk the tea party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

[KansDem]

106. I'll go you one better!

Won't rest until we've shrunk the tea party small enough to flush down a toilet.

[homegirl]

104. Did anyone ask

I put some of the blame on the media hosts who give this wacko a free platform to spout his un American tax policy. When they have the opportunity does the host or a fellow guest ask where his funding comes from? The media should not be giving him credence by giving him a free platform to spout his tax policy.

[2pooped2pop]

105. Holy shit!

This could mean that they will actually use two, count them two, porta potties at their next event. Yes, they will have more, but only two will be needed for this second round of teahicks. The crowd could swell to the thirties or more.

[alfredo]

107. Damn those Metamucil smoothies.

[BuelahWitch]

114. I think the Porta Potty industry underwrites the Tea Terrorists.

[Skidmore]

109. The billionaires who back this slug are threatening the people.

Grover is just the mouthpiece. We need to stand with the President.

[homegirl]

111. Grover Wants Transparency

Boy oh boy. This episode of Press The Meat is one for the record books. If you didn’t know that Grover was a co-founder of the K Street Project and the host of his infamous Wednesday morning meetings, you might think he was really concerned about the integrity of the political process!


DAVID GREGORY: Grover, I want to start with you as we get first reaction to Secretary Geithner. the line in the sand is clear, and that is that the administration, the president, says that Republicans will indeed blink, that they will ultimately have to acquiesce, tax rates have to go up.


NORQUIST: Well, your interview with him was very, very helpful to me because in the past, there have been some Republicans who thought that maybe the administration, like Clinton, was going to be reasonable, that they might put real reforms like welfare reform like Clinton did on the table. what we just heard was no reforms. He even took the $1 trillion in spending cuts they agreed to, to the debt ceiling, took that off. So we’ll spend $1 trillion more there [...] this is a massive collection of spending increases and tax increases. Every Republican who had impure thoughts of maybe I could raise taxes a little because the other guy would be reasonable has to go back to the drawing board. They have just been told there are no real reforms in this budget at all.


GREGORY: But what about the –


NORQUIST: $1.6 trillion in tax increases, and some of the savings are actually tax increases.


GREGORY: How about the direct point? The Treasury Secretary telling me, look, Republicans are not going to stand in the way of tax rates going up. True or false?


NORQUIST: Republicans want to continue the Bush tax cuts and the extenders and the AMT patch and so on. And what we did two years ago, what Clinton signed two years ago, with a Democratic House and a Democratic Senate did two years ago, is exactly what we should do now to start with. It’s the president who is threatening to raise taxes on the middle class if he doesn’t stamp his feet and get his way. He needs to get into a room with cameras there and negotiate. That was all show and no economics. Have it in front of C-SPAN cameras. If the Republicans are reasonable, we’ll see that. If not, we’ll see that. Have cameras there.

Actually, Grover, it wasn’t Clinton – it was President Obama who signed that. But it appears you’re feeling a little insecure and shaken up lately. I wonder why?

And if you want to negotiations to take place on C-SPAN, fine. Just as soon as your Wednesday morning meetings are televised, too. Only fair, right?

[Thav]

113. Grover Norquist: "I'm still relevant! Lookee me I'm talking over here! Listen to me!"

"I'm awesome, and my ideas are awesome. I have a ton of sway over people! You're all meanies! I have friends you know! And they're nasty! I'll go get them and show you!"

Leave now, and never come back, Stinker.

[IDemo]

115. The tea and Kool-Aid are jointly circling the bathtub drain and taking Grover with them. n/t

[dinger130]

118. What a little crap he is.......

NUMBER 2 TEA POTTY. Smells like a big stink to me.

Get the air freshener out!

[WeekendWarrior]

123. Whatever, asshole.

And I'm speaking to Norbitch, here.

[FVZA_Colonel]

124. You're right Grover, we shouldn't.

And when the people see the GOP fighting so hard for the sake of the upper class, they'll know it was you.

[Dont call me Shirley]

126. Sorry Grovie but all the tea party volunteers will be dead because of your medicare cuts

So, if your policies are enacted your tea party II will die off before it gets even close to the size of tpI

[LaPera]

127. LOL! All the republicans have left is lies & threats - They have nothing else - listen to them

"The tea-party will be bigger, the democrats will pay if the reform the filibuster, The Dems better cut medicare if they want a deal, Democrats better not nominate Susan Rice, etc. etc.'

The republicans are weak, they have no real power and even less in the next congress, so the republicans try to bully and all they have is treats....nothing else - Ignore them....Republicans certainly don't have the majority of the American people behind them.....they have nothing but lies and threats!!

[bobthedrummer]

128. Norquist is politically DEAD here in Wisconsin. I suggest, Grover, that you simply STFU-Huffpo too.

[ElboRuum]

129. Oooh, was that a threat from Fuzzy Lumpkins?

I suspect Tea Party II will be just as successful as Atlas Shrugged II... which barely made back its 10 million dollar budget.

[LongTomH]

130. A real Mad, Mad Tea Party and a message for Grover

"Don't Come Around Here No More!"

[underpants]

133. So TeaBaggers #1 lasted only three years?

This really is getting to be like professional wrestling

[Downtown Hound]

134. It's going to have TWICE AS MANY SPELLING ERRORS IN ITS PROTEST SIGNS!

So look out, ya commies. Tea Party 2 is a comin'. All the sexist, racist, homophobic, illiterate, totally crazy nonsense you've come to know and not really love from the Tea Party, only better!

[Third Doctor]

135. The only people trying to push us off of the damned cliff is

the dumb ass GOP.

[Ken Burch]

136. I read that quote real fast and saw the words "Dwarf Tea Party" first.

Wouldn't THAT be an image!

[Skittles]

137. LOL....they will be like "Born Again Christians"

a bigger pain in the ass the second time around

[Beartracks]

139. Tea Party II will be a direct-to-video sequel...

... just like all follow-ups to really stupid movies.

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