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BumRushDaShow

(130,491 posts)
Wed May 15, 2024, 01:22 PM May 15

RFK Jr. accuses Biden and Trump of 'colluding' to exclude him from debates

Source: NBC News

May 15, 2024, 1:04 PM EDT


Independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump were "colluding" to exclude him from the debates they agreed to participate in on Wednesday.

Biden and Trump said Wednesday that they had accepted invitations for presidential debates hosted by CNN on June 27 and ABC News on Sept. 10.

Kennedy would not currently qualify for the CNN debate in Atlanta based on the criteria the network laid out. Stefanie Spear, press secretary for the Kennedy campaign, told NBC News that Kennedy would accept an invitation from CNN to debate Biden and Trump if he qualifies.

In a post on X, Kennedy voiced his anger about being excluded from the first general election debate. "Presidents Trump and Biden are colluding to lock America into a head-to-head match-up that 70% say they do not want. They are trying to exclude me from their debate because they are afraid I would win. Keeping viable candidates off the debate stage undermines democracy," he said in his post.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/rfk-debate-excluded-biden-trump-rcna152392

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RFK Jr. accuses Biden and Trump of 'colluding' to exclude him from debates (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 15 OP
I'd tell him to go away, there are adults trying to work here, but damn, we're talking Donald Trump . . . Journeyman May 15 #1
Doesn't he need to talk with the media who scheduled it?............................ Lovie777 May 15 #2
Honestly... What is his justification for inclusion? Can he show any polling that makes him competitive for hlthe2b May 15 #3
Worms don't debate. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 15 #4
Well, Junior, it would be fun SarahD May 15 #5
The President has already stated he won't participate WhiteTara May 15 #6
They would have to allow Haley, and an empty chair for undecideds, before Kennedy Freethinker65 May 15 #7
Don't forget BumRushDaShow May 15 #8
It wasn't a worm. Magats are spreading. . Marcuse May 15 #23
Don't go away mad liberalgunwilltravel May 15 #9
Have your VP buy a couple of hours on national TV, Junior rurallib May 15 #10
Somehow I just can't picture those two colluding on anything. BlueKota May 15 #11
Yeah, RF is Gaslighting like hell Again. Cha May 15 #15
Whiner. 2naSalit May 15 #12
RFK and his brain worm can debate each other. ZonkerHarris May 15 #13
And just by what criteria should the two leading contenders let you in on the debate too? You haven't participated in a SWBTATTReg May 15 #14
If asked by he press, the response from both camps should be "who, now?" nt Gore1FL May 15 #16
RFKjr was dissed. They only invited the worm. SupportSanity May 15 #17
Hey Bob! Go suck an egg! Oopsie Daisy May 15 #18
Come back when your polls are beyond the error range IbogaProject May 15 #19
I can't imagine why he thinks debating would help him. louis-t May 15 #20
As a general proposition, people who are nuts don't know it. TomSlick May 15 #22
I Think What Jr Needs... GB_RN May 15 #21
It is a head to head match up. Your only role is spoiler. So go away...isn't Bannon missing you? Demsrule86 May 15 #24
Quit yer whining, Bob. LudwigPastorius May 15 #25
Not 'collusion,' but agreement that only 2 parties can be represented. elleng May 15 #26
Let's keep the break going with no one running on their family name... Mark.b2 May 15 #27
If it were Tuberville Jr, this wouldn't be an issue. Or just about any other politician's kid and there ... marble falls Thursday #30
I'm standing by the door waiting for you know who to turn up. Pizza's in the oven warming up. marble falls Thursday #28
to be fair orange jar Thursday #29
But then that wouldn't be fair either, all things being equal. We have a Democrat in the House who uses ... marble falls Thursday #31
I know. orange jar Thursday #32

Lovie777

(12,504 posts)
2. Doesn't he need to talk with the media who scheduled it?............................
Wed May 15, 2024, 01:34 PM
May 15

blaming Pres Biden is the usual bullshit crapola. I don't give a hoot about shithole.

hlthe2b

(102,652 posts)
3. Honestly... What is his justification for inclusion? Can he show any polling that makes him competitive for
Wed May 15, 2024, 01:37 PM
May 15

a single state? (real polling--not internal polls)

SarahD

(1,395 posts)
5. Well, Junior, it would be fun
Wed May 15, 2024, 01:39 PM
May 15

for about the first three minutes. After that, most people would regret it intensely.

SWBTATTReg

(22,319 posts)
14. And just by what criteria should the two leading contenders let you in on the debate too? You haven't participated in a
Wed May 15, 2024, 03:48 PM
May 15

primary yet, I think, and your numbers are dismally low. Go away.

IbogaProject

(2,876 posts)
19. Come back when your polls are beyond the error range
Wed May 15, 2024, 05:42 PM
May 15

Come on Jr, get yourself over or at least close to 5% before we waste time talking or worse thinking about you.

louis-t

(23,323 posts)
20. I can't imagine why he thinks debating would help him.
Wed May 15, 2024, 05:51 PM
May 15

He doesn't come off well as a speaker. His voice is hard to listen to. And he's nuts.

TomSlick

(11,183 posts)
22. As a general proposition, people who are nuts don't know it.
Wed May 15, 2024, 07:55 PM
May 15

I wrongly assumed in the past that videos of him were fake. I believed he wasn't really that nutty and the voice had to be fake. Turns out he really is that nutty and that really is his voice.

LudwigPastorius

(9,337 posts)
25. Quit yer whining, Bob.
Wed May 15, 2024, 09:41 PM
May 15

Even if Biden and Trump went through the Commission on Presidential Debates, guess what?

You still wouldn't be in the debates because you don't meet the established criteria for inclusion.

Go eat a fistful of raw pork to give your worm a friend in that god-forsaken, lonely space between your ears.

Mark.b2

(282 posts)
27. Let's keep the break going with no one running on their family name...
Wed May 15, 2024, 09:55 PM
May 15

If his last name werent “Kennedy”, this wouldnt even be a discussion.

marble falls

(57,898 posts)
30. If it were Tuberville Jr, this wouldn't be an issue. Or just about any other politician's kid and there ...
Thu May 16, 2024, 12:46 AM
Thursday

... wouldn't be a discussion. "Kennedy" is a whole other matter. I believe John Kennedy of Louisiana gets some benefit of the name, too.

marble falls

(57,898 posts)
31. But then that wouldn't be fair either, all things being equal. We have a Democrat in the House who uses ...
Thu May 16, 2024, 12:53 AM
Thursday

... an electronic voice. RFK Jr has 99 problems as a potential leader and not one of the them is his voice.

https://19thnews.org › 2024 › 05 › jennifer-wexton-speech-congress-voice-app-disability-conversation
Her speech using a voice app made history in Congress — and sparked a ...
1 day ago*Correction appended. Last week, Rep. Jennifer Wexton made disability history by becoming the first member of Congress to deliver a speech using an augmentative and alternative communication device on the House floor. Wexton has a rare degenerative condition called progressive supranuclear palsy, or PSP.


https://www.latimes.com › politics › story › 2024-04-08 › rfk-jr-voice-condition-spasmodic-dysphonia
What is Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s voice condition? Spasmodic dysphonia ...
Apr 8, 2024Robert F. Kennedy Jr., speaking in Los Angeles in February, has a medical condition that has left his voice sounding ragged. (Genaro Molina / Los Angeles Times) By James Rainey Staff Writer. April ...

orange jar

(69 posts)
32. I know.
Thu May 16, 2024, 01:07 AM
Thursday

Aside from RFK Jr's claims coming from delusion, a lot of people wouldn't want to watch the debate if they had to listen to someone who has a voice that is extremely difficult to listen to. He can't help it, but it is what it is. From a networks' perspective, he would be a ratings killer. They want as many views as possible, and they aren't going to get it with him on the debate stage.

His support is largely online. People who aren't chronically online and still watch regular TV would be turned off immediately, imo.

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