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BumRushDaShow

(167,153 posts)
Sat May 18, 2024, 03:37 PM May 2024

Investigate whether drinking played role in chaotic House hearing, senior Democrat Jamie Raskin says

Source: UK Independent

5 hours ago


A top-ranking Democrat has said that it’s worth investigating whether alcohol was involved in an explosive, insult-ridden House Oversight Committee hearing earlier this week.

Representative Jamie Raskin called for the investigation after Melanie Stansbury, a Democrat, said non-committee members were drinking in the chamber during a hearing where Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene kicked off a fiery exchange by insulting lawmaker Jasmine Crockett.

“I didn’t see the drinking but the gentlelady from New Mexico, Melanie Stansbury, raised it,” Mr Raskin told Fox News outside the US Capitol on Friday. “She said ‘there are members drinking in the room,’ and that’s something that is worth investigating if there was in fact drinking taking place.” Mr Raskin pointed the finger at lawmakers from across the aisle.

“There was drinking going on in the hearing room on the Republican side,” he told The Hill. “You had a bunch of members who had skipped legislative votes yesterday in order to go to Donald Trump’s trial...I don’t even want to imagine how much drinking was taking place on the train or up in New York,” he said. “And these members came back out of control. And the chairman did not rein them in, and the institution pays the price.” Additional unnamed representatives from both parties also told Politico they saw members drinking.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jamie-raskin-drinking-house-hearing-b2547301.html

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Investigate whether drinking played role in chaotic House hearing, senior Democrat Jamie Raskin says (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2024 OP
LOVE it! elleng May 2024 #1
Would explain some of the GOP bad behavior. Irish_Dem May 2024 #2
The "GOP" part explains the bad behavior. Think. Again. May 2024 #8
Yes but the drugs and booze make it even worse. Irish_Dem May 2024 #9
But we have to be careful Democracy Defender May 2024 #23
I do not give a rat's behind what any GOP might do with my comments. Irish_Dem May 2024 #25
That is rightwing crap...from GOP sources. Demsrule86 May 2024 #32
And check out the poster's other four posts. n/t femmedem May 2024 #47
Yeah no. Kingofalldems May 2024 #33
Opens the door? dpibel May 2024 #35
Oh yes MorbidButterflyTat May 2024 #38
Did the staffer get fired? If so, let them bring it up - excellent example of what should happen. RandomNumbers May 2024 #48
Exactly! "Some people say they drink and do drugs to 'enhance' their personalities" maxrandb May 2024 #55
Some of these republicans PatSeg May 2024 #57
Well yes. Irish_Dem May 2024 #58
Bringing out more of their true personalities PatSeg May 2024 #61
Yes blocking any remaining filters. Irish_Dem May 2024 #62
Exactly PatSeg May 2024 #63
Such deep respect for the institution leftieNanner May 2024 #3
They have no respect for anything or anyone. Dave Bowman May 2024 #26
They should be called in for random drug tests. nt doc03 May 2024 #4
We know that some of the MOC could not pass drug tests. Irish_Dem May 2024 #16
Two tests that should be given to all members of Congress DFW May 2024 #54
I would add a psychiatric workup I_UndergroundPanther May 2024 #60
Unfortunately, as far as THOSE particular characteristics go DFW May 2024 #67
Welp if it made fewer republicans I_UndergroundPanther May 2024 #71
Well they rode the Acela train back from NYC. Probably in the club car or bar car as it sometimes called Walleye May 2024 #5
A few of them are incapable of shame, but some others would want to drown out their own hypocrisy captain queeg May 2024 #11
And some, in their stupidity would want to celebrate their "bravery ". Biophilic May 2024 #18
I'm shocked! sop May 2024 #6
The executioner is always drunk! Mopar151 May 2024 #7
Or Soggy Steve Bannon nt Mopar151 May 2024 #43
Raskin will be on M$NBComcast at 6. 00pm malaise May 2024 #10
They need one of those breathalyzer devices at the door central scrutinizer May 2024 #12
I think I would die from alcohol poisoning ThoughtCriminal May 2024 #13
I really appreciate this sentiment. Biophilic May 2024 #19
What's the excuse for their horrid behavior vapor2 May 2024 #14
I guess MTG can be COL Mustard May 2024 #45
Or maybe she's always drunk. RandomNumbers May 2024 #49
These people are scum who act like most redneck assholes do who are hammered at a party. hadEnuf May 2024 #15
Boebert Was Drunk HandmaidsTaleUntold May 2024 #17
When are Republican politicians not drunk ? Traurigkeit May 2024 #20
100 bottles of beer on the wall Pas-de-Calais May 2024 #21
100 bottles of beer on the wall.... COL Mustard May 2024 #28
Who's afraid to take a drug test? NoMoreRepugs May 2024 #22
Probably every last one of 'em. calimary May 2024 #24
I wouldn't be surprised. COL Mustard May 2024 #27
The House will now be called MOMFUDSKI May 2024 #29
Fat, drunk and stupid COL Mustard May 2024 #46
Did MTG go to NYC with the red tie brigade? ShazzieB May 2024 #30
Stansbury is my Rep Warpy May 2024 #31
I sometimes Rebl2 May 2024 #34
They're wannabe Russians, of course they're drunk ;) ) Cheezoholic May 2024 #36
Time to call out the frat boy mentality of the MAGOP Martin68 May 2024 #37
Alcohol and steroids don't mix MTG. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2024 #39
I'd rather somebody investigate Alito and Ginny Thomas. Efilroft Sul May 2024 #40
Love it! elleng May 2024 #41
Casaloca Nasruddin May 2024 #42
You and I would lose our jobs and/or careers in a heartbeat for this. Evolve Dammit May 2024 #44
So we, as taxpayers, are paying for these assholes to travel to support a felony-charged criminal, ... Novara May 2024 #50
If this is true (and it sounds like it is) those GOP Representatives should be censured FakeNoose May 2024 #51
seen pictures of Congressional offices and there is booze out in the open Historic NY May 2024 #52
So EmptyGreene wasn't empty? Explains a lot eom Maeve May 2024 #53
Pretty standard behavior for MTG, she always seems filled with the spirit IronLionZion May 2024 #56
In vino veritas Traurigkeit May 2024 #59
Well, when you have sold your soul to Putin and the oligarchy not fooled May 2024 #64
Family values again Bayard May 2024 #65
No one has ever mentioned it, but I suspect MTG is an alcoholic. ificandream May 2024 #66
I think she's just a loud mouth asshole GenThePerservering May 2024 #70
Republicans don't care if their reps are drunk. In fact..... KY_EnviroGuy May 2024 #68
It makes the entire country look bad when the message is that legislators are drunk while working. Renew Deal May 2024 #69

elleng

(141,926 posts)
1. LOVE it!
Sat May 18, 2024, 03:39 PM
May 2024

“I didn’t see the drinking but the gentlelady from New Mexico, Melanie Stansbury, raised it,” Mr Raskin told Fox News outside the US Capitol on Friday. “She said ‘there are members drinking in the room,’ and that’s something that is worth investigating if there was in fact drinking taking place.” Mr Raskin pointed the finger at lawmakers from across the aisle.

“There was drinking going on in the hearing room on the Republican side,” he told The Hill. “You had a bunch of members who had skipped legislative votes yesterday in order to go to Donald Trump’s trial...I don’t even want to imagine how much drinking was taking place on the train or up in New York,” he said. “And these members came back out of control. And the chairman did not rein them in,

Irish_Dem

(80,415 posts)
9. Yes but the drugs and booze make it even worse.
Sat May 18, 2024, 04:02 PM
May 2024

I have suspected there is drinking and drugs going on right on the congressional floor.
Lindsay Graham looks drunk sometimes.
And we know some of the House members act totally unhinged some days.
Worse than usual.

 
23. But we have to be careful
Sat May 18, 2024, 05:50 PM
May 2024

making this case or it opens the door to repubs bringing back up our staffer recording himself having sex on the floor then posting it online

Irish_Dem

(80,415 posts)
25. I do not give a rat's behind what any GOP might do with my comments.
Sat May 18, 2024, 05:56 PM
May 2024

They are going to be nasty, ugly people no matter what we say or do.

Demsrule86

(71,519 posts)
32. That is rightwing crap...from GOP sources.
Sat May 18, 2024, 06:54 PM
May 2024

The house was in chaos thanks to MTC... should not be tolerated. The 'they both do excuse' for badly behaving Republicans is unacceptable.

Dec 16, 2023 — Conservative news outlets alleged that the aide to Sen. Ben Cardin, D-Md., appeared in a leaked video showing men having sex in a Senate ...

dpibel

(3,826 posts)
35. Opens the door?
Sat May 18, 2024, 08:39 PM
May 2024

Because otherwise, the honorable Republicans would never mention it?

Welcome to DU! You will have a great time here!!1!!

RandomNumbers

(19,088 posts)
48. Did the staffer get fired? If so, let them bring it up - excellent example of what should happen.
Sun May 19, 2024, 07:21 AM
May 2024

If not, then he should have been.

Either way, one staffer doing something boorish and improper (assuming it was consensual, including recording and posting), is a whole lot different than several Congress members DRINKING ON THE JOB.

If I were drinking on the job or drunk on the job, I don't think I'd get any mulligan for that - I'd be gone pretty quick.

maxrandb

(17,284 posts)
55. Exactly! "Some people say they drink and do drugs to 'enhance' their personalities"
Sun May 19, 2024, 08:43 AM
May 2024

"But what if you're an asshole"?

PatSeg

(52,560 posts)
57. Some of these republicans
Sun May 19, 2024, 09:43 AM
May 2024

don't need booze or drugs to behave horribly. We've seen this kind of behavior for years.

Meanwhile, I'm sure there is plenty of drinking going on in congress on both sides and always has been.

Irish_Dem

(80,415 posts)
58. Well yes.
Sun May 19, 2024, 09:46 AM
May 2024

But we see the erratic behavior of the MAGAs and GOP members on TV.
Some of it is more typical of drugs and booze.

PatSeg

(52,560 posts)
61. Bringing out more of their true personalities
Sun May 19, 2024, 10:31 AM
May 2024

Though I suspect many of them don't need any help being total assholes in front of a camera.

Irish_Dem

(80,415 posts)
16. We know that some of the MOC could not pass drug tests.
Sat May 18, 2024, 04:23 PM
May 2024

In addition to drug testing they should include blood alcohol levels.

MOCs are making in some cases life and death decisions on behalf of the American people.
It would be nice if they were sober.

DFW

(59,877 posts)
54. Two tests that should be given to all members of Congress
Sun May 19, 2024, 08:30 AM
May 2024

One before they are allowed to be sworn in, and one before they enter the chamber.

Each member of Congress should be given the same citizenship test that immigrants must pass before they are sworn in as US citizens. If they can’t pass that test, they have no legitimate claim to being sworn in as members of Congress. If some prospective immigrant from Guatemala needs to pass the test in order to be a citizen, then the person representing him/her in Congress should at the very least be held to the same standard.

Same should go for entering the House or t chamber. Random alcohol tests, despite the obvious impracticality. If you are going to vote on laws that affect the country, you vote with a clear head or not at all. Ten year minimum jail term for faking a positive result in order to keep members voting on important bills or resolutions.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,351 posts)
60. I would add a psychiatric workup
Sun May 19, 2024, 10:12 AM
May 2024

If found narcissistic, authoritarian, or psychopath they lack the empathy necessary to do the job of making decisions about other people’s lives

DFW

(59,877 posts)
67. Unfortunately, as far as THOSE particular characteristics go
Sun May 19, 2024, 02:03 PM
May 2024

They are, in some states, the characteristics which made them attractive to a majority of voters in those states to begin with.
Positive tests for those attributes would, in some states, be considered not only an asset, but a pre-condition for the Republican nomination to a seat in Congress.

Walleye

(44,055 posts)
5. Well they rode the Acela train back from NYC. Probably in the club car or bar car as it sometimes called
Sat May 18, 2024, 03:44 PM
May 2024

I must take a lot of alcohol to dull the humiliation. These small town boys aren’t used to the big city

Mopar151

(10,346 posts)
7. The executioner is always drunk!
Sat May 18, 2024, 03:59 PM
May 2024

When nasty people waver in their "sincerely held beliefs", A little " Dutch Courage " will get them through!

Look what it's done for Rudy!

central scrutinizer

(12,651 posts)
12. They need one of those breathalyzer devices at the door
Sat May 18, 2024, 04:13 PM
May 2024

“Sorry, congresswoman, you’re over the limit and can’t take your seat, go home and sleep it off.”

hadEnuf

(3,564 posts)
15. These people are scum who act like most redneck assholes do who are hammered at a party.
Sat May 18, 2024, 04:23 PM
May 2024

I think it's a safe bet to assume it was a lot of booze mouth going on at the hearing.

Not that pieces of shit like them need booze to run their sphincter like mouths..

calimary

(89,294 posts)
24. Probably every last one of 'em.
Sat May 18, 2024, 05:52 PM
May 2024

They’d try to turn it around and demand drug tests for the Dems. Just because.

Turds on two legs.

COL Mustard

(8,063 posts)
27. I wouldn't be surprised.
Sat May 18, 2024, 06:05 PM
May 2024

MTG is vile and creepy, and apparently a mean drunk on top of that. Yeesh.

I hope SNL roasts her tonight.

ShazzieB

(22,339 posts)
30. Did MTG go to NYC with the red tie brigade?
Sat May 18, 2024, 06:40 PM
May 2024

I don't remember hearing about it if she did...but she was probably the most outrageously out of control person in the room at that hearing.

Warpy

(114,503 posts)
31. Stansbury is my Rep
Sat May 18, 2024, 06:46 PM
May 2024

and I'll vote for her again and not because of this. She's a solid progressive.

I'm not a bir surprised they were shitfaced, that pious family values Christian bunch. I have to admit that if I was stuck with that bunch, I'd need some sort of chemical help to cope.

Rebl2

(17,529 posts)
34. I sometimes
Sat May 18, 2024, 08:12 PM
May 2024

wonder if in Jefferson City, MO if there is a lot of drinking on the job in the capitol while they are debating or in the offices of our state capitol before they debate bills.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
50. So we, as taxpayers, are paying for these assholes to travel to support a felony-charged criminal, ...
Sun May 19, 2024, 07:34 AM
May 2024

... get drunk on the train afterwards, and then insult each other like a junior high mean girl fight.

I want my money back.

I DID get fired for drinking on the job. Then I got sober. That was nearly 16 years ago. But yes, at the time I deserved to be fired. Booze and work don't mix, and goddammit, we as taxpayers aren't paying for them to get drunk and insult each other.

All of them are an embarrassment to America.

FakeNoose

(40,730 posts)
51. If this is true (and it sounds like it is) those GOP Representatives should be censured
Sun May 19, 2024, 07:57 AM
May 2024

... and docked a day's pay, or maybe even a higher fine. They are on salary working for Uncle Sam and their job is to represent their Congressional Districts - not the Repuke Party and not Chump's legal difficulties.

If any average hard-working American pulled a stunt like this, we'd be fired from our jobs. Case closed.

Historic NY

(39,797 posts)
52. seen pictures of Congressional offices and there is booze out in the open
Sun May 19, 2024, 08:01 AM
May 2024

the Congressional staffers when Trump was in officepr were whooping it up with booze parties on the old offices next to to the WH when Trump was in office. Remember the big carts of beer in the halls

GenThePerservering

(3,164 posts)
70. I think she's just a loud mouth asshole
Sun May 19, 2024, 07:59 PM
May 2024

maybe steroids have something to do with it, but some people don't really need any help.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,770 posts)
68. Republicans don't care if their reps are drunk. In fact.....
Sun May 19, 2024, 02:23 PM
May 2024

leaders may even encourage it 'cause many of them will be 10X nastier when inebriated......

Renew Deal

(84,762 posts)
69. It makes the entire country look bad when the message is that legislators are drunk while working.
Sun May 19, 2024, 04:51 PM
May 2024

It's something you'd expect from somewhere else.

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