China creates groundbreaking electric car battery that fully charges in just 10 minutes

[Polybius]

Source: MSN

China has developed a revolutionary car battery that can charge in just 10 minutes and power a car for hundreds of miles before needing to be plugged in.

A report from the International Energy Agency (IEA) has hailed the “remarkable” advancements in battery chemistry that have enabled China to produce batteries with far greater energy density than existing technologies. These breakthroughs have positioned China as a leader in the electric vehicle (EV) sector, raising both opportunities and concerns globally.

The IEA’s Global Critical Minerals Outlook emphasized that Chinese battery company CATL has developed a fast-charging “Shenxing” battery. This innovative battery is set to be integrated into electric vehicles later this year, providing a substantial leap forward in the efficiency and usability of EVs.

The report credits China’s series of breakthroughs in battery chemistry for its current dominance. One of the most significant developments has been the resurgence of lithium iron phosphate (LFP) cathode chemistry. Innovations have nearly doubled the energy density by eliminating dead space within the batteries, massively extending the range of EVs. This technological advancement is expected to alleviate “range anxiety”—a common concern among EV drivers about the limited distance their vehicles can travel on a single charge.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/china-creates-groundbreaking-electric-car-battery-that-fully-charges-in-just-10-minutes/ar-BB1mInh2

[Beachnutt]

1. Check this out

https://amprius.com/technology/

Our commercially available 370 Wh/kg silicon anode battery demonstrated extreme fast charge rate of 0-80% state of charge in less than six minutes.
Factory being built in Brighton Colorado thanks to President Biden.
Colorado Selected for Strategic Geographic Location, Extensive Manufacturing Infrastructure, Significant Factory Capacity Potential and Comprehensive Incentives Package

Factory Expected to be Equipped with Advanced Manufacturing Processes and Equipment to Produce U.S. Designed High-Performance Lithium-Ion Batteries to Serve Electric Mobility Market

Selected in October 2022 for Negotiation of Award for a $50 Million Cost-Shared Demonstration Grant from Biden Administration’s Bipartisan Infrastructure Law to Support Domestic Battery Production
https://amprius.com/amprius-technologies-selects-colorado-for-gigawatt-hour-scale-factory-site/

[keithbvadu2]

2. Sounds great! Maybe too good?

The curmudgeon in me has some doubt.

I expect improvements but that much so quickly?

[brush]

27. I'm with you. Let's see the proof.

[Hugin]

33. I have to agree...

I don’t doubt their initial claims as much as I doubt the sustainability of maintaining these rapid charging cycles over time. Especially, if it is based on new developments.

There’s much complexity in battery maintenance. What about “memory”, where a battery can appear to be fully charged and most of it is not available?

[Irish_Dem]

53. Could be lies, could be stolen technology.

Xi is not to be trusted.

[OAITW r.2.0]

3. Battery tech is where the game is at. Science and commercial opportunity are all in.

Maybe some Telsa investors will re-allocate on their EV choices....

[Aussie105]

4. Quietly forgetting . . .

this would take a mega-capable charger.

Your domestic power point in the garage won't do it.

[Jerry2144]

5. No. A garage Level 2EVSE maxes out at about 11 kW

And normal DC fast chargers put out up to 300 kW. This would take a DC fast charge of about 500 kW. It’s an improvement, probably double the max power into a feel from the current batteries. But you would need 800 V or better architecture. Not 400V like most Teslas, Fords, and Other cars. Some do 800 V (Hyundai/Kia, Porsche, Audi). But most do not.

400V at 500 kW gives 125 amps, very huge cables for charging and from charger port to battery pack in car. This new battery improvement probably would have 1,250 V nominal rating to keep the conductor size down

[Voltaire2]

38. tesla was upgrading their Super Chargers to 800

in anticipation of faster more capable batteries. That is likely in limbo now that their idiot ceo has basically lost interest in core ev technology.

[uncle ray]

8. one won't NEED a home charger when you can charge in the same time it takes to gas up.

so existing gas station infrastructure can be adapted to charge also. great for urban areas where home chargers are not practical.

[chouchou]

15. Amen. I was thinking the same thing.

I was thinking a ground and many + to charge each cells in the battery storage.

[Voltaire2]

26. You don't need fast charging in your garage.

[SarahD]

28. Small home charger will be fine.

The home charger does not have to be big or fast. The vehicle can plug into the home charger for five or six hours, at least, so a smaller, cheaper setup is adequate. There is no reason to spend thousands on a speed charger for your garage.

[Voltaire2]

31. A 30amp dryer plug is sufficient.

The ev FUD campaign continues unabated.

[Wonder Why]

49. But that's not where fast charging is needed. It's on the road where fast charging is critical especially for those that

cry because it takes 10 minutes to fill their road hog with gas.

How often does one run out of charge when driving close enough to home that they have to recharge completely from zero to 80% in 10 minutes? Destination chargers don't need the same power output as road chargers unless your destination is a Buc-ees a couple of hundred miles away that you have a fine dining party that you have to put on your Tux and drive to NOW!

[LonePirate]

6. We do little except placate the oil industry while China is working on the future of transportation.

[orangecrush]

40. THIS

[ramapo]

7. Shame on U.S.

This is the kind of R&D reward that companies in the United States once received. It's an amazing breakthrough if true. It also shows how short-term profits, keep up the stock price, and a general focus on greed over the past 50 years had hurt our competitiveness .

[PortTack]

10. I said similar just a week or so ago...if the US car companies had done better at competing with Japanese cars

4-5 decades ago, instead of blowing the competition off we’d be in an entirely different spot. There were ppl here that didn’t want to hear thst.

[AnrothElf]

12. Well said. At the same time, I do think Biden is accutely aware of these advances.

It can't be any surprise to US intelligence. Like post #1 said... the US has done it in 6 minutes.

This is an announcement of an advance. How long till it hits market?

My bet is pretty fast, because there's a different ethos to this news out of China VS news like this out of MIT. China senses an opportunity, I think, to capitalize (LOL fucking commies) on their recent good PR vis-a-vis EVs.

Governments DO care. Not just China, either.

And we do have the CIA and NSA.

[FailureToCommunicate]

9. If true, this tech was likely obtained from the U.S. from the battery labs at Sandia.

China is shameless about stealing U.S. (taxpayer funded) tech.

[Voltaire2]

32. Well that is odd. Why haven't we produced these batteries then?

[FailureToCommunicate]

42. Probably because many advances from there are Dept of Defense, and they like to hang on

to innovations awhile before releasing anything and showing our hand.

Even if it's stolen first.

[Voltaire2]

43. Or perhaps because the claim is unsubstantiated bullshit.

[FailureToCommunicate]

44. Yeah. That must be it. Because I don't know what goes on there.

[Voltaire2]

45. So you know that Chinese spies stole super secret

battery tech from Sandia?

[FailureToCommunicate]

47. I only said it was possible. And theft of secrets doesn't require a spy in the buildings.

[AnrothElf]

11. Buh-bye Detroit. Unless they get in on Biden's plan. You KNOW Joe's known about this for years.

Say what you want about the CIA, but they know their business.

[Lancero]

16. Detroit will be fine thanks to a 100% tariff on Chinese EVs.

[orangecrush]

41. Who is going to do that

Do tell?

[Lancero]

46. Joe Biden just did.

https://apnews.com/article/biden-china-tariffs-electric-vehicles-evs-solar-2024ba735c47e04a50898a88425c5e2c

[orangecrush]

54. Excellent

Thanks

[speak easy]

13. If it works, copy it ...

like the Chinese have done with all our stuff.

[onetexan]

59. Oh i'm sure the koreans & japanese are already all over it, reverse engineering and enhancing it.

[tinrobot]

14. I'd be happy with a 20 minute charge - but with plenty of available chargers

The number one issue with EVs is that we need a LOT more fast chargers.

We also need to maintain the ones we do have.

[Aussie105]

17. Dream vs reality.

The dream: Look at me! I'm driving an EV that can charge up in minutes!

The reality: Damn, almost out of power, and here am I driving around looking for a charger!
Why can't I find a charger that is working but not being used, and suits my vehicle?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

18. Your bad dream does not match the reality of the nationwide average travel distance of 42 miles.

https://www.axios.com/2024/03/24/average-commute-distance-us-map

Even 1960s lead acid coversion EVs could travel that without a recharge.

[Prairie_Seagull]

20. I have been espousing the idea of a lower cost 'errand' EV-

for some time now. Lightweight 2 seater with room for some groceries or other errand stuff. I believe this would take a bite out of carbon emissions better than EVs that many if not most can not afford.

China has one called the Seagull.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/small-well-built-chinese-ev-called-the-seagull-poses-a-big-threat-to-the-us-auto-industry/ar-BB1mhtEg

Car companies need to embrace this not fear it.

[former9thward]

21. It is not the car companies.

It is U.S. safety standards. Almost none of these small foreign cars meet U.S. safety standards.

[Prairie_Seagull]

23. I agree but solving climate will not be done IMO

without some risk. It will take some paradigm shifts in thinking. Here in Spokane I have seen it first hand. Local wildfires last year, and horrible smoke in years preceding, while only warning signs, were intense and destructive. Even causing my homeowners insurer to raise my rates considerably.

Easy for me to say.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

51. Car companies have chosen to keep the multiple revenue streams of petroleum cars.

Car manufacturers have astroturfed against EVs and promoted ICE vehicles.

[former9thward]

56. Then why are they producing them?

GM and Ford lose thousands with each one they make. The ICE vehicles provide the subsidy to the EVs at the major car companies.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

50. We could have been driving commuter EVs for decades.

It's easier to clean up emissions at power plants than at tailpipes.

[former9thward]

55. Particulate emissions which get down in the bottom of your lungs,

come from tires and brake pads. Everyone is guilty.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

60. Yes.

[Florida Dem]

58. BYD Seagull

The BYD Seagull is actually a legit 4-seater hatchback that is only about a foot shorter than a Kia Rio hatchback. It is small but it is definitely not a 2-seater errand EV. The higher trim has a 252 mile range. I drive a non-EV vehicle with similar specs and I have driven it long distances all across the U.S.

But I have seen many stories in the last few months about vehicles becoming available that fit into the exact category that you are speaking about. It will be interesting to see if those catch on with residents in large urban centers. I can definitely see the appeal for a 2-seater errand EV.

[Voltaire2]

36. I've owned an ev for five years.

I’ve never driven around looking for a charger. The few times (4) I’ve needed a public charger I simply drove to it using the onboard navigation software.

One thing I really miss is gas stations. They were always a great experience. The fumes! The excellent selection of vastly unhealthy snacks! The shit encrusted toilets! The wonderful people you could encounter! The dubious credit card readers! I could go on…

[pecosbob]

19. Which then burns your house down...

[BlueWavePsych]

22. Vaporware and/ or Safety Hazard

firstly, this was announced waay back in August 2023. I'll believe it when it is actually made and tested by reputable reviewers.

https://www.catl.com/en/news/6091.html


Meanwhile, Chinese Evs continue to BURN ...

https://www.wapcar.my/news/in-china-640-evs-caught-fire-in-the-first-quarter-of-2022-up-32-percent-45371

[Voltaire2]

29. The middle picture appears to be a Tesla 3.

Also you know what kind of vehicles catch fire much more frequently?

The result? Hybrid-powered cars were involved in about 3,475 fires per every 100,000 sold. Gasoline-powered cars, about 1,530. Electric vehicles (EVs) saw just 25 fires per 100,000 sold.

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/study-electric-vehicles-involved-in-fewest-car-fires/

[myohmy2]

30. yes...

...but will the new batteries dependably catch fire...?

...it might depend on how much Chinesium they use...

[sl8]

24. IEA's 2024 Global Critical Minerals Outlook 2024:

Source referenced in article:

https://www.iea.org/reports/global-critical-minerals-outlook-2024

(PDF, much more available at link)

Global Critical Minerals Outlook 2024

[Voltaire2]

25. It is totally unacceptable for China to develop advanced technology.

This is why we need punitive tariffs, and if that doesn’t work, Stronger Measures.

[JustAnotherGen]

34. Our job?

Steal the technology - then let them try to sue us in a US Court. Keep for American Made and Delivered to vehicles.

Sorry not sorry - been in the Global Trade world since 2009 - fully as a trade compliance lead since 2010 . . .


All is fair in our Economy and Trade Wars.

And the reality is? They do it to us in a heart. Thieves shall be met with thievery.

[flying_wahini]

35. Interesting that even on DU that there are so many negative comments about EV's in general.

They’re dangerous, are expensive, impractical and too small……. Too many excuses and not enough time.

Electric vehicles are in all our future and the quicker we embrace it the better off we will be.
I know people in Texas will bend over backwards to drive the biggest truck they can find.
Magas LOVE to drive extra large trucks and are Proud of their gas consumption and shrug it off when questioned about mileage. Mostly because they think it’s their right to overconsume anything and everything they want. (Another reason young people sneer at ‘old’ people).
I’m shopping for an EV as we speak….

We need an all over ad campaign to get everyone on board and then actually buy EV’s. I hope we can do it quickly because the world is burning as we speak.

[Voltaire2]

37. The massive FUD campaign from Big Oil

has inculcated itself into our brains. We are so easy to manipulate.

[SarahD]

39. Propganda works well. Especially if well funded.

The auto industry has people believing EVs will burn them alive. The coal industry has people believing that windmills will kill all the birds. And so on. Our media just regurgitates press releases, so propaganda and misinformation seldom get scrutinized.

[RazorbackExpat]

57. Lithium is a very reactive metal

There is a reason why airlines don't like unaccompanied Li ion batteries in the cargo hold.

[dembotoz]

48. remember when toyota and honda looked at the us automakers and ate their lunch?

gonna happen again

in fact it IS happening again

Never fear.....we will respond with a new rusty chevy vega or and exploding ford pinto

[RazorbackExpat]

52. I've seen too many videos of Chinese EV cars

spontaneously catching fire in the street. Lithium can be a dangerous metal when it comes to "green" batteries.

[LudwigPastorius]

61. Hope they've ironed out those problems that makes them kind of "burny-explodey".

https://www.ufinebattery.com/blog/lifepo4-thermal-runaway-causes-hazards-solutions/

[RussBLib]

62. alleviate range anxiety?

...not good enough. Range anxiety must be ELIMINATED.

https://russblib.blogspot.com