Ohio Moving to Exclude Biden from Ballot

[riversedge]

Source: meidasnews.com




This is heading for the courts.

Ron Filipkowski 2 hours ago

In 2010, the Ohio legislature passed a law creating an arbitrary deadline that candidates for each political party must be nominated 90 days before the election to get on the ballot. That provision has never been enforced to keep a candidate off the ballot - until now.

Both the Republican and Democratic National Conventions took place after the 90 day Ohio deadline in 2012 and 2020. Both times the legislature passed a bill to extend the deadline so there were no issues. However, 2024 is the first time that only one party has their nominating convention after the deadline, and it just happens to be the Democrats which will nominate Biden on August 22, two weeks after Ohio's arbitrary deadline.

The Republican supermajority was asked again, just like in 2012 and 2020, to extend the deadline so there will not be an issue. They have refused to do so. Now, Republican Secretary of State Frank LaRose has just send a letter to the Chair of the Ohio Democratic Party stating that he does not believe the legislature is going to grant an extension so the DNC is going to be forced to either change the date of their nominating convention to satisfy Ohio Republicans, or take them to court.


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The Biden Campaign and the DNC has been largely silent on this issue, apparently attempting to resolve this behind the scenes through negotiations. However, LaRose's letter makes it clear that the time for a settlement to this appears to be at an end with Ohio Republicans prepared to force Democrats to take them to court...........................

Read more: https://meidasnews.com/news/ohio-moving-to-exclude-biden-from-ballot

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This is almost unbelievable--trying to keep the Dem nominee off the ballot.




OH Sect of St just sent a letter to the Chair of the OH Dem Party that he will exclude Biden from the OH ballot
since the DNC convention is after their arbitrary deadline.
OH extended the deadline for Repubs in 2012 & 2020, but refuses to do it now. Story.

Link to tweet

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[Turbineguy]

1. Why don't they just pass a law to outlaw voting for Democrats?

[Raven123]

12. Please, don't put ideas into their heads

[unblock]

22. Seems that's what they're already doing....

[calimary]

42. Or at least laying the groundwork for it.

I don't trust Republicans any farther than I can throw my house.

[wolfie001]

53. I've seen old boomer TT's spewing this filth

Clueless and toothless old Social Security and Medicare (thank you Democratic Party!!!) recipients. Sickening.

[peppertree]

56. Proof, once again, that a fool and his money are soon parted

Problem is ,of course, that they're threatening it for everyone else too.

Which suits the donor class just fine.

[whathehell]

100. As a boomer possessed of both 'clues' and teeth,

I'd like to know just what a "TT" is, and suggest, while I'm at it, that you lighten up on the boomer slams.

[wolfie001]

102. TT is for TikTok and I'm a Boomer

The old fella (is that an ok description, lol) was spewing nonsense about banning Democrats from voting. You may think, "Oh he's just crazy", well, Ohio repukes are actively working to keep Biden off the ballot. The old man is obviously on Medicare AND Social Security, both programs proudly passed by the Democratic Party. It's just ironic AND infuriating to see someone who is obviously benefiting from our programs to be actively making those vile statements. Cheers

[whathehell]

103. Got it, but one, two or three

old people on Tik Tok does not a majority make..Of COURSE they're clueless, but there are, and have been, some of those in EVERY generation. Fwiw, I don't know what happened to Ohio. My understanding is that they were a swing state not so long ago.

[wolfie001]

106. I'll try to be a bit gentler in my description in the future

Cheers Also, if I knew how to repost it I would. It was a bit eye opening to even think someone could come up with that line of thinking.

[whathehell]

108. Lol..You do that, bro..

but in your own interests, rather than mine.

[markodochartaigh]

69. That person is not suggesting anything that the

Republicans have not already thought of.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/florida-republicans-bill-ban-state-democratic-party-rcna72917

[Diraven]

41. I guarantee that will happen

If Trump is president again

[Captain Zero]

83. This will defeat Brown in the Senate

For us.

If it stands.

Probably a big reason they are doing it.

[dutch777]

2. Write ins could carry the day but even so I have to believe there is something unconstitutional in this

Also kind of curious if this has been on the books since 2010 why Dems didn't take into account when setting Convention date. Seems a bit preposterous on numerous parties' parts.

[unblock]

7. I actually doubt it. The constitution gives the states the right to select electors "in a manner of their own chusing"

The constitution doesn't even require an election for the presidency. A state legislature could pass a law making their electors selected by a committee, or appointed by the governor.

So I doubt a filing deadline for an election would be unconstitutional.

It's stupid, of course. And the not granting a waiver but is obviously being done for partisan reasons, no way would they be dropping Donnie from the ballot if it was the republicans who had the later convention.

But i don't see how it's unconstitutional.

[dickthegrouch]

11. The filing deadline exists

To accommodate every single precinct having a different ballot and needing to compile them, edit for accuracy and distribute them.
Could be a lot of work in some large counties.

[unblock]

21. If it was an open convention, sure.

Not granting a waiver when the nomination is a new formality at this point seems pretty slimy. But as I said, not likely unconstitutional.

[Mr.WeRP]

61. If Trump died before the election, don't you think they would move heaven and earth to get the backup nominee

On the ballot? The deadline has been pushed back for Republican nominees in the past, Ohio simply refuses to do it on equal terms.

[lonely bird]

52. If I recall correctly

Congress can establish voting rules on the federal level…oh, shit, Republicans again.

Never mind.

[Mr.WeRP]

59. SCOTUS would not allow states to keep Trump off the ballot when he clearly is an Insurrectionist.

It is unconstitutional if you go by latest SCOTUS rulings.

[unblock]

63. That ruling sheds little light on this case.

[Mr.WeRP]

82. It absolutely does. Only one can be true

Either states can control who goes on the ballot or they can’t. It matters not the justification.

[unblock]

89. Nonsense. It's not an either/or because there are many reasons for not qualifying for a ballot

In Donnie's case, the Supreme Court held that only the federal government can enforce disqualification *for the reason of having been an insurrectionist* because their interpretation is that the 14th amendment meant for the federal government to enforce that rule.

That in no way means that states can't have filing deadlines and other criteria such as a minimum number of signatures.

[DENVERPOPS]

67. With the current USSC

it matters little to them whether it is constitutional or not, or even follows the normal Rule of Law.......

This is just the start of a plethora of shit coming our way in the months ahead folks....

This Newly Revised Republican Party will stop at nothing this time around folks......

Katie Bar The Door.

This is their culmination of over 45+ years worth of work. They missed, by just a millimeter, of succeeding in 2020.......

[unblock]

71. True that. But a bit of a side show, in this case.

If we were going to win Ohio, we were going to win anyway. In short, we don't need Ohio.

I'm actually wondering how it would play politically if we more or less let this happen. It might bolster the argument that republicans are fascists, don't believe in democracy, etc.

Which might help us in the actual battleground states.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

28. Nice blame the Democrats there

[unblock]

3. The conventioneers could have a zoom meeting and technically nominate the ticket before they he deadline.

And then the actual convention would technically just be a celebration of the nomination, but I don't see why we couldn't do it this way,

[sop]

35. Problem solved.

There was never any doubt who the nominee would be, so just have the DNC nominate Biden "officially" before the deadline by whatever means necessary.

[Voltaire2]

36. This is exactly the right move.

Begging the Ohio clowns or seeking relief from the clown court is dubious. Just do an end run around their bullshit.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

95. 100%!

They simply cannot be trusted to ever again do the right thing!

[Diraven]

44. I heard the Ohio Sec State already rejected that

The only remedy he believes is legal is changing the convention date.

[unblock]

47. I think they objected to the idea of a "provisional" nomination

But an earlier, *official* nomination should be fine.

[Think. Again.]

73. Just title the zoom meeting "Official Democratic Party Convention"

[Chakaconcarne]

4. I'm not understanding how we're in this position in the first place

[50 Shades Of Blue]

15. Neither do I! Scheduling the convention before ALL arbitrary state deadlines seems pretty basic!

I can't believe Dems would risk some asshole pulling a stunt like this if they didn't!

[Diraven]

45. There's an advantage to having a later convention

There's always a bounce in the polls for the party having a convention, and if you can keep more of that bounce closer to the election than the other party then you have an advantage.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

50. I get that, but still!

[TomSlick]

90. Agreed.

It shouldn't be that hard to check the requirements of all fifty states.

[SWBTATTReg]

5. And Colorado had to put djt back on its ballots (they took him off since he was an insurrectionist).

And how does f**king Ohio and other similar states get away w/ this, considering that Biden was the previous winner of the last election cycle? How does f**king Ohio republican scumbags do this, despite being the current front runner for the democratic party since day 1?

[jimfields33]

31. They haven't gotten away with it unless the Democratic Party doesn't take the state to court

[Think. Again.]

74. ...or work around by having a quick "convention"...

...to nominate our candidate before the deadline.

Wasn't the 2020 convention a zoom meeting?

[jimfields33]

85. To be honest, I like that idea best.

It’d be so easy to do quick zoom on a Saturday afternoon. No more than 20 minutes and done.

[Think. Again.]

86. Yep, I'm thinking that's why the DNC isn't worried about this.

[jimfields33]

87. Agree. We're so lucky to be democratic supporters.

[no_hypocrisy]

6. Sue under equal protection.

Can’t discriminate against Democrats if extension for Republicans.

[unblock]

8. No extension for republicans, not this year anyway. Their convention is before Ohio's deadline.

[no_hypocrisy]

27. Past extension

[unblock]

40. In 2020, both parties got waivers

For 2024, the Republican convention is earlier, before the convention. So only the democrats need a waiver.

I don't see a legal case here, even if their motives are transparent.

[NanaCat]

96. Not how it works

If they've ever made an exception for one side because they had their convention late, then they can't deny a waiver for the other side if their convention is late.

That's exactly what equal under the law is about. Ohio can't treat A one way and B another just because some schmuck with delusions of grandeur wants to.

[unblock]

99. So once they issue a waiver, the law becomes forever unenforceable?

[intheflow]

55. Yeah, seems like solid precident with the

past exemptions. Only difference is this year one party - the ruling party - planned their convention before the arbitrary date they had ignored before, premeditating their move to bar the current president and presumed candidate from the ballot. Incredibly stinky and hopefully won’t stand in court.

[Oopsie Daisy]

9. We can't win without Ohio, right? Does this mean that the fix-is-in?

[BumRushDaShow]

16. Biden didn't win OH in 2020

so it's not required assuming the states won the last time are won again in 2024.

[Oopsie Daisy]

20. Thanks! The Omaha, NE shenanigans will likely cost us that single EV.

It's just amazing to me how ignorant some voters are, and how vengeful and hateful other voters are.

[jimfields33]

33. I never liked the Maine or Nebraska thing. It's weird.

[dpibel]

104. Letting all votes count is weird?

Winner-takes-all means that there are substantial swaths of voters whose votes never really count.

And, yes: It works both ways. There would be, for instance, some Republican electors from California. And some Democrats from Texas.

But all in all, an apportioned elector system is much more like representative democracy.

[jimfields33]

105. Then do it completely across the country.

That’d be the fairest. But toe have only two states involved. It doesn’t change the electoral college since one is democratic and the other republican.

[dpibel]

107. I'm all in favor of doing it nationwide

But if, as you say, the current situation makes no difference, why are we bothering with it?

[jimfields33]

109. It doesn't make sense (why it bothers me). I can't help it.

[InstantGratification]

57. Don't know where it stands

Maine was watching Nebraska and if they pulled that change to throw an extra EC vote to Trump, Maine was going to pass a law to make the same change and throw an extra vote to Biden.

[NowsTheTime]

93. Even if Biden doesn't win Ohio, if Biden is not on ballot it may affect down ballot Dems!

[BumRushDaShow]

94. I don't think their law targets anything other than the timing of "nominating conventions" for a Presidential election

However like everything else - it's a matter of GOTV and voters know that there is an election going on and Sherrod Brown is on the ballot in a tight race.

[NanaCat]

97. Biden won without Ohio

[live love laugh]

13. So hold a virtual convention in advance.

[JohnSJ]

24. Exactly. What is the DNC going to do, having a pissing contest until it is too late to do anything. At the minimum we

should take this the the Supreme Court, and if they rule against having Biden put on the ballot, then blue states Democratic legislatures need to exclude trump form the ballot, such as California and New York.

[Johnny2X2X]

14. This is a massive deal down ballot

There are Dems down ballot that will lose without voter turnout for Biden.

[jimfields33]

34. It might piss off everyone and even more vote.

[Raven123]

17. While I doubt that Biden's team is making this calculation,

One has to wonder how it would impact Sherrod Brown’s reelection campaign. On one hand you could imagine a negative impact on Dem voter turnout. On the other hand, La Rose was smack dab in the middle of the attempt to thwart the Reproductive Rights amendment vote last year. Here he is once again with the rest of the GOP. Could this backfire and increase turnout for Dems.

Don’t know, but it is worth pondering. Wake up, Ohio

[Hope22]

51. Bad news is what it is.

If Dems can’t vote for prez why bother voting. The US Senate will take the loss! Brown must be livid. There better be hella demonstrations here! So sick of this $hit!

[NanaCat]

98. I can guarantee that Biden has Brown figured

In any calculations about how to handle this idiocy in Ohio.

Because Biden is not an idiot.

Really.

[BeyondGeography]

18. Translation: Trump wants to win the popular vote

By any means necessary.

[JohnSJ]

19. We have known about this for several months, why isn't this being taken to the Supreme Court? If the Supreme Court say

it is fine to exclude Biden, then California and every major blue state with a Democratic majority needs to pass a law in their state legislatures to exclude trump from the ballot, and that will be the start of a real civil war.

Of course a better approach would be to just have a virtual Convention before the scheduled Convention to nominate the Democratic President.

Enough is enough, there is no point in waiting any longer.

[Martin68]

23. They will stop at nothing to try to improve their odds of winning.

This is just one of numerous ploys involving voter ID, voting station access, etc.

[raging moderate]

25. If they extended it twice under this condition, they are clearly lying.

They are NOT kicking Biden off the ballot because his party's convention will occur after the date they have just set for printing the ballots. So clearly this is NOT the reason they are kicking Biden off the ballot. Democrats should get this decision blocked right now. The suggestion of a virtual Democratic Convention seems like a good idea. Then the later real Democratic Convention could still be held as a glorious bonding festival!

[mwooldri]

26. So if the Dems win the Congress...

... don't let the reps from Ohio take their seats. Dem or Rep.

Assuming Biden is not on the 24 ballot in Ohio of course.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

29. I thought April Fool's Day was last month?

[Voltaire2]

30. The stupid conventions should be entirely ceremonial.

As soon as a candidate has secured the votes required the nomination should be officially complete.

[NYC Liberal]

91. I agree. They're close to an anachronism at this point.

Sure, have a 1-2 day celebration of the official nominees if people want. But there’s really no reason why we need a week-long convention just for a formality.

[progressoid]

32. To paraphrase Vice President Biden, this is kind of a big fucking deal.

[wryter2000]

37. I wonder if this is in Marc Elias's bailiwick

Just for the hell of it...

Lisa Murkowski managed to win her Senate seat one year when she was a write-in. Biden is a lot easier than Murkowski to spell.

[former9thward]

48. Biden could not win OH when he was on the ballot in 2020.

The odds he could win it as a write-in is very small. Clinton could not win it either.

[wryter2000]

78. Picky, picky

There you go with your reality.

[tinrobot]

101. But when abortion was on the Ohio ballot, it overwhelmingly won

If Democrats make it a big issue, they'll win as well.

Biden needs to be on the ballot.

[jaxexpat]

38. Sounds like a good time for an "immunity empowered" executive to make a hard call, eh?

That's just . But if it works.....................

[chowder66]

39. It's a move made by cowards.

[OMGWTF]

43. Rethuglicans stole the 2004 election for GeeDubya with election machine fuckery in Ohio

https://truthout.org/articles/new-court-filing-reveals-how-the-2004-ohio-presidential-election-was-hacked/

They tried that fuckery in 2008 too but it didn't work. Remember when KKKarl Rove was incredulous that Ohio went to Obama because he thought that the fix was in for McCain, but then someone was jamming the Rethuglican's servers not allowing them to flip votes.

Lie, cheat, steal. It's all they have.

[Orrex]

46. SCOTUS will fast-track this

Expect a decision in early December.

[Orrex]

49. Presidential immunity grants Biden the power to remove and replace the Ohio AG

At least, that’s basically the argument that SCOTUS seems to be considering.

[Abstractartist]

54. Simple solution

Why can’t the delegates do a zoom conference meeting 88 days before the election when President Biden receives enough votes to secure the nomination. Pass the nomination from the delegates to the Ohio congress, use this as an “ October type surprise” push to take the Ohio congress, and pass new legislation. Perhaps after the last primary in June, a special delegate zoom can be officially announced by the DNC and the nomination can occur.

[Blue Owl]

58. Fuck this shit

[MorbidButterflyTat]

60. Stupid bullshit MAGAt games

[Gore1FL]

62. Simply Nominate Biden in June with a Zoom Meeting.

When it is time for the infomercial convention, use the time to advertise Biden more.

[lees1975]

64. That should make enough Democrats angry enough to get out the vote and win the state.

If it doesn't something is wrong.

[Botany]

65. Ohio is really fucking dirty .... I live here

The congressional races are over before the 1st vote is cast because of gerrymandering.

The republican speaker of the House in Ohio is in prison for his part in taking in 62 million dollars
in bribes in order to get the utility companies 1.6 billion in kickbacks.

The Ohio Democratic Party is the quintessential “limp groom on the wedding night.”

And with a woman’s rights being on the ballot the GOP will make sure the state stays red.

And registered voters (black and democrats) are always being dropped from voter lists.

Interstate cross check is still being used.

When a really good doctor worked to stop the spread of C-19 gun toting mouth breathers
Showed up in her and her family’s yard and Mike DeWine didn’t do shit so she had to quit
her job as director of the State’s Department of Health.

And I forgot Ohio 2004 and the election that was stolen and when a federal judge said that
the people had the right to see the County’s BOE records from the election in many counties
the Republicans just threw out the paperwork and poll logs. In one county* that said that a
coffee pot broke and so they had to throw away the materials because people might get cut
from the broken glass and in another county** they ordered new poll logs, ballots, and what
not which they filled out in order to match last fall’s election results.

* Richland
**. Delaware

[NowsTheTime]

66. How long, how long has this been going on?

[Owens]

68. Take it to the Supreme Court

This sounds like a violation of the election law, if Colorado is forced to keep Trump on the ballot then Ohio should be forced to.

[PlutosHeart]

70. Am certain they will try their best carry out this plan given

usually the courts are pretty much bought. Waiting for other States to find any myriad of reasons. And no matter taking this or that to court, they will make certain by cheating and lying to win.

I may sound pessimistic but cannot anyone see how they are more than setting up to make sure X45 will be "ruler"?

I am really sick to my stomach at this point. Actually have a stomach ache right now. I am also angry that our system is putting up with this because it is showing flaws. Disregard for our country. Disregard for the whole planet really.

[mn9driver]

72. Of course they're doing that.

The GOP has become a fascist, authoritarian mob. They do not believe in or accept democracy.

This is just the beginning of an election shitshow like no one alive has ever seen here.

[manicdem]

75. Someone needs to be fired at HQ

Whomever set the date for this year's convention is at fault since the law was in effect for 14 years. That's gross incompetence.

Both parties had late conventions in 2012 and 2020 so it wasn't a partisan issue and the deadline was extended, or else Ohio wouldn't have a vote for the president.

[markodochartaigh]

76. A number of times in the past this situation has

cropped up, in different states, and with both parties. Previously it was always resolved. I think that most people believe that it will be resolved this time too. However, in the meantime, it is a huge amount of excrement launched into the electric oscillating appliance. At a minimum this is a huge waste of the Democratic party's energy. I think that the chaos is the plan.

[Rebl2]

77. Can he

be a write in candidate? Can democrats sue and try to get it thrown out?

[LonePirate]

79. Once again Repubs play hardball and Dems are caught unprepared.

[keithbvadu2]

80. Partisan much? Is Donald supporting this enforcement after he needed and used the same lenience in 2020?

[colorado_ufo]

81. The Democrats should vote by mail - right now - and just use the convention as a big celebration party and promotional.

Don't waste time and money on the courts; they will LOSE, just as the courts let TFG remain on the ballot, slapping the Constitution in the face.

Don't play their games!

[JohnnyRingo]

84. Shame on the GOP, but I want to know who dropped the ball for the Democrats.

Whose job is it to be aware of the republican's arcane rules for nomination?
This isn't a tough one to find out.

Of course if the Ohio republicans were decent people, they would work with the Biden campaign on this.
2nd question.... Who was assuming republicans are decent people?

I know somebody better do something. The Ohio Democratic Party was informed of this months ago. I know this because I first heard of it almost three months ago.

[Quanto Magnus]

88. They can only win if they cheat....

This needs to be pointed out every time they pull some BS like this.

[LudwigPastorius]

92. Another day, another round of Republican fuckery.

Anti-democratic pieces of shit!

[GenThePerservering]

111. DeWine is stopping this

calling a special legislative session to get Joe Biden on the ballot.

[John Shaft]

112. Seditious

When will someone responsible, privileged, wealthy, and who is part of "The System" do anything?

Say anything?

These insurrectionists are acting in a shadow government framework: laws; customs; ethics; precedents; institutions DO NOT APPLY anymore.

This all feels scripted.