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BumRushDaShow

(131,758 posts)
Thu May 23, 2024, 02:56 PM May 23

Senate border bill vote fails again as Democrats seek to shift blame to GOP

Source: CBS News

Updated on: May 23, 2024 / 2:53 PM EDT


Washington — The Senate on Thursday failed for a second time to advance a bipartisan border security measure that Republicans first blocked earlier this year after former President Donald Trump came out against it. In the 43 to 50 vote, the measure fell short of the 60 votes needed to advance in the upper chamber.

The outcome was expected, and Democrats are trying to use Republicans' opposition to shift public opinion in their favor as polls show voters are critical of President Biden's handling of immigration. Border security has been a central theme of the Republican platform heading into the November election.

Sen. Brian Schatz, a Hawaii Democrat, argued Thursday that Republicans who voted against the measure "chose to preserve chaos at the border" and "now this crisis is on them." At a news conference on the issue Wednesday, Schatz expressed anger at his Republican colleagues, saying they previously demanded that Democrats "get serious about the border."

"Some of the Republicans that I respect the most were really forceful with us, and so we listened," he said. "We developed a piece of legislation that I don't love, but I know is tough enough to get the job done. Yet they abandoned ship because Donald Trump told them to do so."

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-border-security-bill-vote/

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CousinIT

(9,370 posts)
1. "Democrats seek to shift blame". What a slithery headline. THE GOP ARE TO BLAME...
Thu May 23, 2024, 03:05 PM
May 23

... for that legislation not passing. TWICE, they blocked it.

Democrats don't need to "shift" anything. The blame IS with the GOP.

BumRushDaShow

(131,758 posts)
8. The Senate Rules require a cloture motion and vote BEFORE the final debate and "putting it up for a (final) vote"
Thu May 23, 2024, 04:30 PM
May 23

The Rules are agreed to at the beginning of a Senate session (which in this case happened in January 2023).

They would have to change the Senate Rule requiring 60 members to invoke cloture (to end the non-talking "filibuster" ), which is what people have been demanding for a bunch of years to get things like an updated VRA and reproductive rights bills passed, but Manchin & Sinema won't bite.

Polybius

(15,715 posts)
11. Only 43 out of 100 voted to advance
Fri May 24, 2024, 12:28 PM
May 24

Looks like at least 8 Democrats, oppose the bill as well, possibly more if a few Republicans voted to advance.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
12. Oh FFS--Did you not read the article?
Fri May 24, 2024, 06:50 PM
May 24

They did put it to a vote.

In the 43 to 50 vote, the measure fell short of the 60 votes needed to advance in the upper chamber.


Why don't you read the bloody article before lying that they haven't put it to a vote?

BumRushDaShow

(131,758 posts)
6. CNN's and some others were worse
Thu May 23, 2024, 03:54 PM
May 23

The problem too this go-around is that some Democrats voted against it (am waiting for the roll call to be added to the Senate site).

Senate Republicans block bipartisan border security bill for a second time


Lauren Gambino
in Washington
Thu 23 May 2024 15.15 EDT

(snip)

But the bill also lost support from Democrats, among them Cory Booker, the senator of New Jersey, and Laphonza Butler of California. Kyrsten Sinema, an independent from Arizona who negotiated the bill, also opposed it this time

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/23/senate-democrats-immigration-border-bill

sybylla

(8,597 posts)
2. "Seek to Shift"-WTF? What a horrible effing headline.
Thu May 23, 2024, 03:26 PM
May 23

It's been their fault for going on a year or more. WTH?

awesomerwb1

(4,282 posts)
7. I see a problem here
Thu May 23, 2024, 04:21 PM
May 23

"Some of the Republicans that I respect the most were really forceful with us, and so we listened," he said.

They still respect these MAGAfu**ers?? Why??

This is a new environment they're operating under. The MAGAts have no shame and no bottom. Take the gloves off already ffs

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