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hay rick

(9,595 posts)
Sat May 25, 2024, 11:46 AM May 2024

Fort Pierce Post Office flies upside down flag, symbol of "Stop the Steal" election deniers.

Source: Treasure Coast Newspapers

FORT PIERCE — A star-spangled banner flew upside down Wednesday at the United States Post Office on Orange Avenue, days after U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito faced criticism for years-old pictures of the same sight at his home.

The upside-down American flag has been a symbol used by "Stop the Steal," groups backing false conspiracy theories that the 2020 presidential election actually was won by former President Donald Trump, only to be stolen by President Joe Biden.
...

It is unclear how long the flag flew upside down outside of the post office in Fort Pierce, or who was responsible. A POW-MIA flag, honoring prisoners of war and soldiers missing in action, was flying correct-side-up just below the upside-down American flag Wednesday.
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Meanwhile, about a mile east on Orange Avenue, a hearing was under way at the Alto Lee Adams Sr., U.S. Courthouse, where attorneys for Trump were once again asking U.S. District Court Judge Aileen M. Cannon to throw out charges against him in a case about his retention and storage of classified federal documents at Mar-a-Lago, his home and club in Palm Beach. Trump was not in attendance.

Read more: https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/local/st-lucie-county/2024/05/22/mistake-or-pro-trump-symbol-post-office-flies-its-u-s-flag-upside-down/73804085007/?utm_source=tcpalm-inside-florida-politics-strada&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=baseline_greeting&utm_term=newsletter-greeting&utm_content=ptcn-treasurecoast-nletter07



The postal service is declining to comment and promises to investigate.

I retired from the Postal Service a dozen years ago. We functioned under a very strict enforcement of the Hatch Act. If I had a partisan bumper sticker on my car I couldn't park in our parking lot. Putting up and taking down the flag was an assigned duty. An actual investigation should require a single phone call...
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Fort Pierce Post Office flies upside down flag, symbol of "Stop the Steal" election deniers. (Original Post) hay rick May 2024 OP
Somebody should be "FRIED" ! republianmushroom May 2024 #1
Fired, not fried. patphil May 2024 #8
First fired then fried..... wolfie001 May 2024 #20
. Hassin Bin Sober May 2024 #26
Batter dipped IronLionZion May 2024 #39
The Republican betrayal of America is their great disgrace BoRaGard May 2024 #2
Same people who flipped their shit when Kaepernick knelt. orange jar May 2024 #3
Two Magat brother in laws DUgosh May 2024 #6
Who's going to hold them accountable? Dejoy? live love laugh May 2024 #23
"We functioned under a very strict enforcement of the Hatch Act." BumRushDaShow May 2024 #4
As a fed of 12 years myself bluevoter4life May 2024 #34
They have updated/revised the Hatch Act over the years BumRushDaShow May 2024 #36
Bandera Texas DUgosh May 2024 #5
Is there anyway to take a photo of it? SilasSouleII May 2024 #12
Here ya go wolfie001 May 2024 #21
Thanks wolfie SilasSouleII May 2024 #28
I'll try for one DUgosh May 2024 #41
They still have Trump's pic? LeftInTX May 2024 #25
I'm surprised Pojat May 2024 #7
In a different time I might have agreed with you. hay rick May 2024 #9
The person who did that DENVERPOPS May 2024 #14
DeJoy has been around forever now. hay rick May 2024 #15
It was just a thought.... DENVERPOPS May 2024 #16
Have you gotten used to him? JoseBalow May 2024 #22
Sounds like you are making excuses for them. I'm sure they have plenty already, live love laugh May 2024 #24
The way it is put up is easy. Old Crank May 2024 #27
In 1789, French citizens stormed The Bastille to overthrow a king Marthe48 May 2024 #10
Things everyone can see, everyone can record pics or video. House of Roberts May 2024 #11
Doesn't the PO have video security cameras at every facility? sop May 2024 #29
DeJoy will get on this as soon as he finishes his online stock trading. jalan48 May 2024 #13
I was taught that flying the flag inverted was a distress signal similar to a Mayday or SOS call. mackdaddy May 2024 #17
If they are proud of their work they should step forward or be branded a traitorous coward for life. ZonkerHarris May 2024 #18
more of his buddies doing his bidding as if this is the only thing that matters . AllaN01Bear May 2024 #19
No penalty exists for violating the flag code NanaCat May 2024 #32
This has been going on a lot longer than the "Stop the Steal" bullshit..... AZ8theist May 2024 #30
where is Fort Pierce? DBoon May 2024 #31
Ft. Pierce hosts the courthouse where Loose Cannon is doing the classified docs case BumRushDaShow May 2024 #37
Do the moron(s) responsible know what would happen to their Post Office jobs? not fooled May 2024 #33
right way up again... myohmy2 May 2024 #35
It shouldn't be hard to figure out who did it. Emile May 2024 #38
One can always call the police and say there is someone with a dire emergency. That will get a big response and lots of Wonder Why May 2024 #40
Oh, Florida (Post)man... LudwigPastorius May 2024 #42

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
2. The Republican betrayal of America is their great disgrace
Sat May 25, 2024, 11:50 AM
May 2024

They will live in infamy for betraying the nation
that they lie about loving.

orange jar

(878 posts)
3. Same people who flipped their shit when Kaepernick knelt.
Sat May 25, 2024, 11:53 AM
May 2024

Whoever allowed this at the post office is going to be in some deep shit. Good.

DUgosh

(3,140 posts)
6. Two Magat brother in laws
Sat May 25, 2024, 12:25 PM
May 2024

Gave up NFL football 🙄🙄 but will surely cheer this action

BumRushDaShow

(169,553 posts)
4. "We functioned under a very strict enforcement of the Hatch Act."
Sat May 25, 2024, 11:53 AM
May 2024

As a retired fed myself we couldn't even hang pics of Barack Obama (or Michelle, etc) in our offices or cubicles unless they were the "official portraits" (i.e., a printout version of the "official" photograph of the President that hangs in federal building lobbies).

bluevoter4life

(805 posts)
34. As a fed of 12 years myself
Sat May 25, 2024, 05:19 PM
May 2024

Hatch Act rules must have changed since. I am allowed to have ONE partisan bumper sticker on my car per race. One President, one House, one Senate (or two of both Senators are up), etc.

BumRushDaShow

(169,553 posts)
36. They have updated/revised the Hatch Act over the years
Sat May 25, 2024, 05:34 PM
May 2024

where you can do whatever you want with "signs/stickers" outside of the office. So I damn sure had my lawn signs! But in the past, that was always a question and issue. There are still some restrictions for uniformed services/federal LEO and I think certain levels of senior management.

I think the main point was to keep the partisanship off government property.

DUgosh

(3,140 posts)
5. Bandera Texas
Sat May 25, 2024, 12:15 PM
May 2024

The photo of the President of the United States is NOT the current President. Complaining results in “lost” mail and “misplaced” outgoing mail. It won’t surprise me one bit if they change the position of the flag.

SilasSouleII

(486 posts)
12. Is there anyway to take a photo of it?
Sat May 25, 2024, 01:38 PM
May 2024

This is a FEDERAL building and needs to go to a higher level than just a local post office.

SilasSouleII

(486 posts)
28. Thanks wolfie
Sat May 25, 2024, 03:21 PM
May 2024

But I was referring to DUgosh's post about the Bandera Texas post office displaying a previous presidents official picture instead of the current POTUS, Joe Biden.

LeftInTX

(34,234 posts)
25. They still have Trump's pic?
Sat May 25, 2024, 03:00 PM
May 2024

We could go protest, but they would probably chase us city folks out.

Pojat

(6 posts)
7. I'm surprised
Sat May 25, 2024, 12:28 PM
May 2024

I've lived in Fort Pierce for over 10 years and I find this perplexing. I frequently visit the Orange Ave. PO and it has a diverse workforce. My first reaction was that someone showed up for work with a hangover. When I was in 8th grade I accidentally put up the flag upside down...it was embarrassing to have to put it up correctly with a couple of police officers, the janitor, and the principal watching me but that was the worse of it. The Orange Ave. PO is a real dump, the tile is all worn, the lights dim, no landscaping...maybe the employee was protesting the condition of the building.

hay rick

(9,595 posts)
9. In a different time I might have agreed with you.
Sat May 25, 2024, 01:10 PM
May 2024

We live in a time when many people feel they have permission to perform outrageous public acts on behalf of far-fetched grievances known only to them. I appreciate that people can make absent-minded mistakes as you describe from your youth. All things considered, this smells like MAGA to me.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
14. The person who did that
Sat May 25, 2024, 01:48 PM
May 2024

must have been trying to make a statement about what DeJoy had done, and was still doing, to destroy the USPS.......
The Republicans highjack and mis-interpret anything and everything to suit their purposes......

An excellent example was after Columbine, a personalized vehicle license plate was introduced here in Colorado, with the words "RESPECT LIFE".........The religious rightwing glommed onto the plate as being pro-life to the Anti Abortion Religious Crowd......and the true meaning/reason for the plate was diminished........

As a side comment re: the Columbine shooting.......There was an incredible amount of information that was not shared with the public and the information that was disclosed, was seriously twisted and/or censored, to downplay horrific details.......probably to avoid pissing off the gun fanatics and second amendment crowd......

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
16. It was just a thought....
Sat May 25, 2024, 02:04 PM
May 2024

He is continuing his crusade with even more destructive actions. It is just that the Main Stream, Republican owned/operated news media, just isn't reporting it............

Marthe48

(23,167 posts)
10. In 1789, French citizens stormed The Bastille to overthrow a king
Sat May 25, 2024, 01:13 PM
May 2024

In 2021, American citizens tried to overthrow the government to install a king.

House of Roberts

(6,516 posts)
11. Things everyone can see, everyone can record pics or video.
Sat May 25, 2024, 01:31 PM
May 2024

Once it’s on digital it can’t be denied and someone should face disciplinary action.

sop

(18,550 posts)
29. Doesn't the PO have video security cameras at every facility?
Sat May 25, 2024, 03:44 PM
May 2024

It shouldn't be too difficult to identify the person responsible for this.

mackdaddy

(1,972 posts)
17. I was taught that flying the flag inverted was a distress signal similar to a Mayday or SOS call.
Sat May 25, 2024, 02:18 PM
May 2024
The U.S. flag code, which is not legally enforceable, specifically says that the flag is not to be inverted "except as a signal of dire distress in instance of extreme danger to life or property."

If I had seen this flying over a Federal Judges home I would have been calling 911 for them to check out the emergency signal.
 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
18. If they are proud of their work they should step forward or be branded a traitorous coward for life.
Sat May 25, 2024, 02:31 PM
May 2024

AllaN01Bear

(29,459 posts)
19. more of his buddies doing his bidding as if this is the only thing that matters .
Sat May 25, 2024, 02:33 PM
May 2024

id love to see somone snagged on sending a false distress signal . if i sent mayday or sos or pan pan over the air , and no distress incedint occured , id be in jail and or fined .

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
32. No penalty exists for violating the flag code
Sat May 25, 2024, 04:49 PM
May 2024

So it's useless to expect anything other than social shaming over it.

AZ8theist

(7,349 posts)
30. This has been going on a lot longer than the "Stop the Steal" bullshit.....
Sat May 25, 2024, 03:54 PM
May 2024

The upside down flag is a distress signal.

I have a Reich wing neighbor down the street who has an upside down flag sticker on the back windshield of his car.

He does it because there's a Democrat in the White House.
When it's a Repuke, the sticker is right-side up.

It's like clockwork. He's been making that change for decades.

A Democrat in the White House??!?? OOOOOOHHHHHH MAYDAY! MAYDAY! MAYDAY!
A Repuke gets elected? All is well.

It's just so fucking stupid.

not fooled

(6,674 posts)
33. Do the moron(s) responsible know what would happen to their Post Office jobs?
Sat May 25, 2024, 05:15 PM
May 2024

Kiss your union goodbye and enjoy working for whoever dejoy sells the post office to.


myohmy2

(3,721 posts)
35. right way up again...
Sat May 25, 2024, 05:32 PM
May 2024

...I smell the handy work of uninformed magats...

...times have changed...

...it's now, "...Start the Steal..."

...pay attention...

Emile

(42,242 posts)
38. It shouldn't be hard to figure out who did it.
Sat May 25, 2024, 06:01 PM
May 2024

Just stake out the post office everyday and I bet it'll be the same person every day who raises the flag. The person should be fired.

Wonder Why

(6,992 posts)
40. One can always call the police and say there is someone with a dire emergency. That will get a big response and lots of
Sat May 25, 2024, 08:47 PM
May 2024

publicity. What you are doing would not only be legal but would be the right thing to do because it is part of U.S. Code of Law what an upside down flag means.

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