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demmiblue

(39,850 posts)
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 01:33 PM Jun 2024

Trump probation interview set for Monday after hush money conviction

Source: NBC News

Former President Trump is scheduled to sit for a virtual interview on Monday with a New York City probation officer from his home at Mar-a-Lago with his attorney Todd Blanche at his side after he was found guilty on all counts in the hush money trial against him last month, three sources familiar with the matter told NBC News.

Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, was convicted last month on all 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in the historic case. The probation interview is required by the court as part of the former president’s pre-sentencing report.

Judge Juan Merchan, who is presiding over the hush money case, permitted Blanche to be present for the probation interview over a video call after prosecutors did not object. The Trump defense team is scheduled to submit their sentencing recommendation on June 13.

The former president is scheduled to be sentenced for all 34 felony counts in New York on July 11, days before the Republican National Convention begins.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-probation-interview-monday-hush-money-conviction-rcna156219

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Trump probation interview set for Monday after hush money conviction (Original Post) demmiblue Jun 2024 OP
How's trump gonna pee into the drug testing bottle over the internets? erronis Jun 2024 #1
Exactly Bayard Jun 2024 #3
Traitors and insurrectionists get special treatment. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2024 #6
as I said before- they can take some squeezins from his Depends rurallib Jun 2024 #5
Yep, one more example of the special treatment he gets Attilatheblond Jun 2024 #19
Like a lot of information spread about the process, the idea that a drug test is mandatory is wrong. onenote Jun 2024 #21
Thanks. Perhaps you or I should supply a link to what is actually required erronis Jun 2024 #26
So to speak. And good evening. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2024 #29
If the convict could please lean over the mic. Arne Jun 2024 #30
Who lawyers up for a probation hearing? bluedigger Jun 2024 #2
Anyone with a smart lawyer. onenote Jun 2024 #22
Well, then. bluedigger Jun 2024 #42
Oh to be BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #4
No reliable weight and height measures Marthe48 Jun 2024 #7
Bad mistake, SLOAT Todd Blanche! Tarzanrock Jun 2024 #8
I was about to ask what SLOAT stands for, lol. ShazzieB Jun 2024 #13
Well, if he's innocent of these charges, why should he express remorse? 3Hotdogs Jun 2024 #16
I hope he pulls a bag over his head Arne Jun 2024 #31
Not a mistake. And he doesn't have to answer any questions. onenote Jun 2024 #23
What is the New York law on this? Tarzanrock Jun 2024 #35
There is no hard and fast rule. onenote Jun 2024 #36
There were no "errors of law." Tarzanrock Jun 2024 #37
That's what the appellate division thought in the Weinstein case. onenote Jun 2024 #38
This isn't the Weinstein Appellate record. Tarzanrock Jun 2024 #39
Didn't say it was. But the point, which I thought was obvious, is that convictions get overturned. onenote Jun 2024 #41
TFG is being given very special treatment LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #9
So much, "I think, therefore it is." Igel Jun 2024 #10
This. eggplant Jun 2024 #14
Thank you. There are a lot of people with no first hand knowledge of the process opining on it. Badly. onenote Jun 2024 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2024 #40
hopefully the Proby isnt a trumphhumper ZonkerHarris Jun 2024 #11
This is a complete joke, Beachnutt Jun 2024 #12
It's always been a multi-tiered system, and passage between tiers is quite expensive. Magoo48 Jun 2024 #17
Apparently you think a drug test and an in-person interview is mandatory. It's not. onenote Jun 2024 #25
Lock him up!!! oasis Jun 2024 #15
Oh please oh please let the kitten filter be on! CaptainTruth Jun 2024 #18
Which of the perverts forgot to turn on their filter when they masturbated in front of the screen? erronis Jun 2024 #28
Dump either gets another pass, or he blows up the appointment. PerceptionManagement Jun 2024 #20
one more time: a drug test is not -- repeat, not -- mandatory. onenote Jun 2024 #27
Would stuff dripping from the nostril Arne Jun 2024 #32
What fuckery is this??? orangecrush Jun 2024 #33
The rules actually provide for the video call alternative. So I'm might dial down the outrage a bit. onenote Jun 2024 #34

erronis

(24,157 posts)
1. How's trump gonna pee into the drug testing bottle over the internets?
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 01:42 PM
Jun 2024

I thought drug testing was part of the process. Do the tests detect Adderall, etc.?

Bayard

(29,987 posts)
3. Exactly
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 01:48 PM
Jun 2024

I guess he's immune from this too? Would put a new spin on Hunter Biden's case.

Attilatheblond

(9,071 posts)
19. Yep, one more example of the special treatment he gets
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 04:29 PM
Jun 2024

Still not justice when he gets time and distance to clean up his piss.

onenote

(46,190 posts)
21. Like a lot of information spread about the process, the idea that a drug test is mandatory is wrong.
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 06:43 PM
Jun 2024

It's sad that there is so much misinformation and sadder that DU helps spread it.

erronis

(24,157 posts)
26. Thanks. Perhaps you or I should supply a link to what is actually required
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 06:49 PM
Jun 2024

so we don't have to have pissing contests.

Arne

(3,609 posts)
30. If the convict could please lean over the mic.
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 07:01 PM
Jun 2024

and piss on it, then we can proceed.

My words.

onenote

(46,190 posts)
22. Anyone with a smart lawyer.
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 06:44 PM
Jun 2024

Last edited Mon Jun 10, 2024, 08:04 AM - Edit history (1)

Believe me, it would be stupid not to have your lawyer with you.
This is a pre-sentencing hearing, not a probation hearing.

bluedigger

(17,440 posts)
42. Well, then.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 08:36 AM
Jun 2024

You're answering a different question, aren't you, smart guy? I guess my lack of criminal experience is showing. I never had a felony probation or pre-sentencing hearing.

 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
8. Bad mistake, SLOAT Todd Blanche!
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 02:52 PM
Jun 2024

Since it will be a remote "video call" there will, more likely than not, be a recording of this little "video call" event which means that Judge Merchan will have the opportunity to view the video recording of the Turd's "interview" with the Court's Probation Officer. This will be particularly important as to the Probation Officer's questions concerning the issue of "remorse" and "contrition" for the 34 Felony crimes which the Turd has been unanimously convicted of committing. A recording of this "video call" event will provide Judge Merchan with the opportunity to watch the Turd's demeanor and the Turd's body language as the Turd answers those "remorse" and "contrition" questions from the Probation Officer. If I were the Turd's counsel, I would not want this to happen -- the Turd can't control his emotions nor can he control his demeanor nor his body language due to his virulent and venomous hatred for the Court, the Judge, the Prosecutor and the Judicial system that has convicted him. Any lies which the Turd may utter about "remorse" will be exposed by his demeanor on camera. Bad mistake, SLOAT Todd Blanche!

SLOAT = Stupidest Lawyer Of ALL Time -- acronym from Michael Cohen describing Todd Blanche.

ShazzieB

(22,738 posts)
13. I was about to ask what SLOAT stands for, lol.
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 03:26 PM
Jun 2024

Stupidest was one of my guesses, but I wasn't sure.

The point about Merchan being able to watch the video of the interview is a good one. Transcripts can only reveal so much.

As for the other points raised (drug testing, etc.), I see no reason to assume those won't be handled separately from this interview. I am sure there is a checklist of things that are required prior to sentencing, and I can't really see Merchan allowing TSF to weasel out of any required items.

3Hotdogs

(15,451 posts)
16. Well, if he's innocent of these charges, why should he express remorse?
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 03:46 PM
Jun 2024

I hope he tells the probation officer to go fuck himself. —- and tell the probation officer to tell Crooked Marchan to go fuck himself.

Arne

(3,609 posts)
31. I hope he pulls a bag over his head
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 07:07 PM
Jun 2024

clucks like a chicken while jumping up and down.

Wait, I think he just did that in Las Vegas.

onenote

(46,190 posts)
23. Not a mistake. And he doesn't have to answer any questions.
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 06:46 PM
Jun 2024

If you're planning on appealing your conviction -- and many people do -- you wouldn't admit to having remorse or contrition. So it won't make any difference if and when he refuses to answer or even if he says he has no remorse because he doesn't believe he is guilty and expects the appeals court to agree with him.

 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
35. What is the New York law on this?
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 10:33 PM
Jun 2024

My understanding of New York law is that the Judge can take a negative inference from a defendant’s lack of cooperation with the process. That's a pretty risky chance to be taking while banking on what is a manifestly frivolous appeal of an unanimous jury verdict where the jury was individually polled.

onenote

(46,190 posts)
36. There is no hard and fast rule.
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 11:03 PM
Jun 2024

For the most part, however, judges are more likely to treat contrition and remorse as mitigating factors that reduce the sentence they might otherwise impose, but do not treat failure to express remorse or contrition, particularly in a non-violent, financial crimes situation, as the basis for a negative inference.

As far as his appeal being manifestly frivolous -- I'm sure that's what a lot of folks thought about Harvey Weinstein's appeal, particularly after the appellate division rejected it. The appeal will allege errors of law, and the fact the jury was individually polled will not make the slightest difference.

 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
37. There were no "errors of law."
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 11:21 PM
Jun 2024

There were no "errors of law." We will see what Judge Merchan says about any lack of remorse or absence of contrition. No Judge I ever appeared in front of was capable of putting those factors out of their minds, either consciously or sub-consciously -- it's just not in their DNA.

onenote

(46,190 posts)
38. That's what the appellate division thought in the Weinstein case.
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 11:40 PM
Jun 2024

I hope the appeals courts don't find any errors, but until the case is brought, briefed, argued and decided, no one can be certain.

I'm curious -- what sort of defendants did you represent?

 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
39. This isn't the Weinstein Appellate record.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 12:04 AM
Jun 2024

This isn't the Weinstein Appellate record. I represented Lawyers in criminal trials.

onenote

(46,190 posts)
41. Didn't say it was. But the point, which I thought was obvious, is that convictions get overturned.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 08:05 AM
Jun 2024

And the right to appeal a conviction is a pretty important right, which is why remorse or contrition is not required.

Igel

(37,570 posts)
10. So much, "I think, therefore it is."
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 02:55 PM
Jun 2024
https://nycourts.gov/courthelp/criminal/preSentenceReport.shtml

It's not a probation hearing. It's a pre-sentencing interview with a probation officer.

These are rather different kinds of things.

onenote

(46,190 posts)
24. Thank you. There are a lot of people with no first hand knowledge of the process opining on it. Badly.
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 06:47 PM
Jun 2024

Last edited Sun Jun 9, 2024, 11:42 PM - Edit history (1)

Weissman sometimes seem to forget this is a state case not a federal court case.

Response to onenote (Reply #24)

erronis

(24,157 posts)
28. Which of the perverts forgot to turn on their filter when they masturbated in front of the screen?
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 06:53 PM
Jun 2024

I'd hate to see the mushroom being abused.

onenote

(46,190 posts)
27. one more time: a drug test is not -- repeat, not -- mandatory.
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 06:49 PM
Jun 2024

Only if its ordered and that typically occurs only if the person being interviewed has a history of drug or alcohol abuse or has been convicted of a crime of violence. Those convicted of financial crimes rarely if ever are required to take a drug test

Arne

(3,609 posts)
32. Would stuff dripping from the nostril
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 07:13 PM
Jun 2024

while on camera be an indication he is all hopped up?

orangecrush

(30,702 posts)
33. What fuckery is this???
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 07:14 PM
Jun 2024

A video call!???

NOBODY GETS TREATED LIKE THIS

TRY NOT SHOWING UP IN PERSON FOR A PAROLE OFFICER OR PRE SENTENCE REPORT IN FUCKING PERSON AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU.

THIS IS HORSESHIT!!!!!

onenote

(46,190 posts)
34. The rules actually provide for the video call alternative. So I'm might dial down the outrage a bit.
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 07:43 PM
Jun 2024

And the judge expressly signed off on it in advance, so if you want to dump all over Judge Merchan, do it expressly, not by implication.

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