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aggiesal

(10,767 posts)
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:18 AM Jun 2024

Hunter Biden trial live updates: President's son guilty on all charges in federal gun case

Source: NBC

Hunter Biden Guilty on all 3 counts
Count 1: False Statement (Firearms Sale)
Count 2: False Statement (Transaction Record)
Count 3: aillegal Possession of a Firearm

What to know about Hunter Biden's criminal trial

- Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden's only surviving son, was found guilty on all three charges tied to the possession of a gun while using narcotics.

- Two of the counts carry maximum prison sentences of 10 years, while the third has a maximum of five years. Each count also carries a maximum fine of $250,000.

- The list of those who were called to testify last week includes Hallie Biden, the wife of Hunter Biden's late brother, Beau Biden; Gordon Cleveland, the man who sold Hunter Biden the gun at the heart of the case; and Hunter Biden's daughter Naomi Biden. Hunter Biden did not take the stand.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/live-blog/hunter-biden-trial-live-updates-rcna156443



Hunter Biden Guilty on all 3 counts
Count 1: False Statement (Firearms Sale)
Count 2: False Statement (Transaction Record)
Count 3: aillegal Possession of a Firearm

MAGA must be so proud.

Hunter Biden had pleaded guilty on gun charges until MagaNation in Congress started screaming about the plea deal. Which the judge then refused to accept the deal.
Hunter then changed to not guilty, so then they went after him in court.
So this is the result from CongressMaga going after Joe Biden.

https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-charges-income-tax-weapon-ea6b78d4bac037da24b485985b99bc1c
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Hunter Biden trial live updates: President's son guilty on all charges in federal gun case (Original Post) aggiesal Jun 2024 OP
Damn. 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2024 #1
I'm really surprised. jimfields33 Jun 2024 #3
The evidence was pretty overwhelming MichMan Jun 2024 #11
why? quakerboy Jun 2024 #72
Because it was a crap case. jimfields33 Jun 2024 #75
did he do it? quakerboy Jun 2024 #78
I was not on the jury. Can't read their minds. jimfields33 Jun 2024 #79
Not surprising republianmushroom Jun 2024 #2
NYT is reporting guilty on all 3 counts. Up to 25 years in jail. Lonestarblue Jun 2024 #4
2 pundits on MSNBC awhile ago were saying yorkster Jun 2024 #6
They said the same on ABC, too. Jail time very unlikely. nt Wednesdays Jun 2024 #9
Very sad day - I'm not surprised at the verdict, however Stuckinthebush Jun 2024 #7
Federal Courts don't just add up all the incremental maximum penalties. brooklynite Jun 2024 #62
How sad. Can we now try all gun owners who have lied on their applications? sinkingfeeling Jun 2024 #5
Yes MacDo Jun 2024 #13
I want him to get exactly what anyone else would have gotten for the same charges The Mouth Jun 2024 #86
Including Don Junior Island Blue Jun 2024 #14
NO, that would be violating their 2A rights!!!! groundloop Jun 2024 #16
The number who lie on Question F is probably in the millions per year. maxsolomon Jun 2024 #22
Yes. LisaM Jun 2024 #47
Starting With Don Jr. Deep State Witch Jun 2024 #66
Will he be able MsLeopard Jun 2024 #8
biden should pardon him after the election moonshinegnomie Jun 2024 #10
After he just stated that he wouldn't? MichMan Jun 2024 #12
Yes ScratchCat Jun 2024 #26
That would have looked just great. wryter2000 Jun 2024 #57
Weiss, right? Special Counsel? Who can follow any threads that lead from the original investigation, right? ancianita Jun 2024 #60
I feel the same way. 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2024 #15
I agree - this case would never have happened if Biden weren't President. walkingman Jun 2024 #17
I added a link in my opinion section on why this happened n/t aggiesal Jun 2024 #19
Sorry - I don't know what that means? Opinion Section? walkingman Jun 2024 #27
The opinion section is an additional area under the quote section for a post in LBN. littlemissmartypants Jun 2024 #53
I finally figured it out - your original post. Thanks - forgive my ignorance 😁 walkingman Jun 2024 #38
No problem. I didn't know what to call it. But it's the section that the poster is allowed to freelance. n/t aggiesal Jun 2024 #41
Sounds like a rehearsal for what trump wants to do calimary Jun 2024 #49
What totally stinks is that a trump appointed judge blew up a plea deal that had been agreed to by all sides. groundloop Jun 2024 #18
Not pardon him, but.... lastlib Jun 2024 #45
He said he wouldn't. I don't think he should make himself a liar. wryter2000 Jun 2024 #56
AG Garland has done his job to help the Republicans AllyCat Jun 2024 #20
Garland is learning FredGarvin Jun 2024 #33
Oh is that what that is? AllyCat Jun 2024 #48
BAD BAD BAD day for gun nutters. aeromanKC Jun 2024 #21
Welp, since this was a pretty selective prosecution, maxsolomon Jun 2024 #24
Well, now there's precedent. aeromanKC Jun 2024 #25
Don't hold your breath. maxsolomon Jun 2024 #28
Hundreds of thousands of MAGAs guilty of these crimes Mysterian Jun 2024 #23
Garland is serious about crime in the US FredGarvin Jun 2024 #29
What makes you so certain he will receive jail time? MichMan Jun 2024 #32
Garland FredGarvin Jun 2024 #35
What role does Garland play in sentencing? CaptainTruth Jun 2024 #58
The Garland Bashers have this habit NanaCat Jun 2024 #87
Oh brother. hamsterjill Jun 2024 #50
Big difference; Nobody votes for Hunter, so he's not paid by our tax $$$'s n/t aggiesal Jun 2024 #64
Still a good sound bite for the MAGA crowd. hamsterjill Jun 2024 #69
nothing matters to them quakerboy Jun 2024 #77
I hope you are right. hamsterjill Jun 2024 #80
Me to quakerboy Jun 2024 #84
How many people lie on an application Beachnutt Jun 2024 #30
Two different men, two different trials, two guilty verdicts 303squadron Jun 2024 #31
Hunter Biden actually got help, though... deurbano Jun 2024 #37
And has taken responsibility for his actions MustLoveBeagles Jun 2024 #65
Having the possibility of 25 years in prison hanging over your head until sentencing duhneece Jun 2024 #34
Is this legal to own in the U.S. ? Beachnutt Jun 2024 #36
Yes DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2024 #39
Ok, thanks. Beachnutt Jun 2024 #40
That's not a gun. That's a fucking gold-dildo obscenity. calimary Jun 2024 #51
Statement from President Biden after Hunter's guilty verdict LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #42
If the President's son goes to jail by a Trump appointed judge and Trump gets a slap on the wrist, hadEnuf Jun 2024 #43
This reeks to high heaven Hekate Jun 2024 #44
Statement from President Biden after Hunter's guilty verdict LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #46
Do we then wait for the appeals to play out before starting a petition for pardon? Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2024 #55
President Biden is such a good man. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2024 #73
Justice should be blind whether your last name is Biden or Trump IronLionZion Jun 2024 #52
The problem is, that he already pleaded guilty to the charges in a plea deal ... aggiesal Jun 2024 #74
Can he get probation? wryter2000 Jun 2024 #54
Statements from Hunter Biden and his defense attorney. LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #59
Good... brooklynite Jun 2024 #61
;-( elleng Jun 2024 #63
Republican gun grabbers! Emile Jun 2024 #67
If they can come for Hunter BIDEN, they can come for Don Jr and YOUR SON, too! nt TeamProg Jun 2024 #68
That's right 👍 Emile Jun 2024 #81
I feel so claudette Jun 2024 #70
SHOCKING that I still don't care JoseBalow Jun 2024 #71
How often is this charge prosecuted TexasBushwhacker Jun 2024 #76
Garland has fiercely gone after Biden's son liberalmediaaddict Jun 2024 #82
Garland is not the reason why this verdict happened NanaCat Jun 2024 #88
PJB said he would accept the outcome of the case Sailingdiver Jun 2024 #83
Juror #10 just said on MSNBC that he didn't think Hunter should go to jail. SunSeeker Jun 2024 #85

quakerboy

(14,857 posts)
78. did he do it?
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 02:29 PM
Jun 2024

Set aside the political side, about whether other citizens would be prosecuted, for a moment.

Is it a crime, and did he do it? And if not, why did a jury come to the conclusion they did?

Lonestarblue

(13,460 posts)
4. NYT is reporting guilty on all 3 counts. Up to 25 years in jail.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:23 AM
Jun 2024

What a sad day for the Bidens. So Hunter could be sent to jail for 25 years while Trump will likely receive no jail time.

yorkster

(3,814 posts)
6. 2 pundits on MSNBC awhile ago were saying
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:27 AM
Jun 2024

that if there was a guilty verdict, there would probably not be jail time. Hopefully that's the case, but sentencing will most likely be in 2-3 months.

Stuckinthebush

(11,203 posts)
7. Very sad day - I'm not surprised at the verdict, however
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:28 AM
Jun 2024

Things you will not hear from Joe or the Dems:

"It was rigged!"
"He did nothing wrong!"
"The judge hates Biden!"
"The jury was made up of Biden haters!"

Now let's hope that he gets a very lenient sentence, and that Trump gets one he richly deserves.

The Mouth

(3,414 posts)
86. I want him to get exactly what anyone else would have gotten for the same charges
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 06:42 PM
Jun 2024

No more, no less.

As someone way on the 'pro gun ("Gun Humper&quot side, I also think there are lots of people who shouldn't have guns and they should be penalized *HEAVILY* in a circumstance such as this. Just as anyone EVER using a gun in a crime should be put away for life; no exceptions.

Island Blue

(6,287 posts)
14. Including Don Junior
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:38 AM
Jun 2024

I’m just guessing, but they lie about everything else & he’s definitely (currently) addicted to drugs.

maxsolomon

(38,666 posts)
22. The number who lie on Question F is probably in the millions per year.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:51 AM
Jun 2024

All you have to do is smoke weed and answer no.

AFAIK, no one else has ever been tried solely for this charge. This is 100% selective prosecution.

LisaM

(29,624 posts)
47. Yes.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 12:48 PM
Jun 2024

If there is a silver lining, maybe it's that we can get people like Boebart and MTG on the same thing.

MsLeopard

(1,305 posts)
8. Will he be able
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:28 AM
Jun 2024

to take advantage of endless appeals like privileged orange people do? I guess we’ll see how “equal” justice is in the nation.

Oh, and thanks Garland! SMDH

moonshinegnomie

(4,011 posts)
10. biden should pardon him after the election
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:34 AM
Jun 2024

after all if the orange buffoon can pardon morons like roger stone biden should pardon his son (but not till after the election)

ScratchCat

(2,738 posts)
26. Yes
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:57 AM
Jun 2024

Because the entire thing should have been shut down by Garland as soon as it went from the tax issue to anything else. The SC was allowed to basically go find any crime he could invent to charge Hunter Biden with. This was not a legitimate investigation or legitimate charges.

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
57. That would have looked just great.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:09 PM
Jun 2024

Just like Trump using his DOJ to go after people, Biden uses his DOJ to get his son off.

ancianita

(43,303 posts)
60. Weiss, right? Special Counsel? Who can follow any threads that lead from the original investigation, right?
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:20 PM
Jun 2024

Because that's what SC rules allow them to do. The law is the law. The jury legitimately voted on the evidence Weiss legitimately found.

walkingman

(10,807 posts)
17. I agree - this case would never have happened if Biden weren't President.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:41 AM
Jun 2024

I wonder who or what caused the initial case to begin with? Anyone know?

littlemissmartypants

(33,342 posts)
53. The opinion section is an additional area under the quote section for a post in LBN.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:01 PM
Jun 2024

It's not provided for any other OP (original post) in any other forum or group. It's only provided for Latest Breaking News. ❤️



walkingman

(10,807 posts)
38. I finally figured it out - your original post. Thanks - forgive my ignorance 😁
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 12:18 PM
Jun 2024

So from what I read the GOP assholes in their attempt to go after Biden and ultimately his son lead to the gun charges and tax fraud deal that fell apart. So ultimately the TRUMP DOJ was originally responsible for it.

This is so sad and just another example of the hypocrisy of the GOP. They are so disgusting.

It is hard to stay ethical when you have people that are so unethical and have no problem with using the DOJ to go after their enemies.

aggiesal

(10,767 posts)
41. No problem. I didn't know what to call it. But it's the section that the poster is allowed to freelance. n/t
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 12:38 PM
Jun 2024

calimary

(89,931 posts)
49. Sounds like a rehearsal for what trump wants to do
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 12:53 PM
Jun 2024

if, Heaven forbid he wins in November.

I can’t help but feel they went after Hunter cuz they can’t get to his dad, so this is the only way they can hurt him at this point. Fuck his son.

groundloop

(13,819 posts)
18. What totally stinks is that a trump appointed judge blew up a plea deal that had been agreed to by all sides.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:43 AM
Jun 2024

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
56. He said he wouldn't. I don't think he should make himself a liar.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:07 PM
Jun 2024

But, if by some ghastly circumstance he needs a pardon at the end of Biden's second term, pardon him then.

AllyCat

(18,813 posts)
20. AG Garland has done his job to help the Republicans
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:50 AM
Jun 2024

Media will breathlessly follow the whole thing so we forget about their lord and savior St Vonschitzenpants.

 

FredGarvin

(846 posts)
33. Garland is learning
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 12:04 PM
Jun 2024

He is getting tough on gun-related crime.

A huge win for Garland, and not the NRA

aeromanKC

(3,887 posts)
21. BAD BAD BAD day for gun nutters.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:51 AM
Jun 2024

Also, bad bad bad day for anyone bitching how unfair and political our judicial system is.

maxsolomon

(38,666 posts)
24. Welp, since this was a pretty selective prosecution,
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:53 AM
Jun 2024

as in no one else is being prosecuted for lying about drug use on form 4473, but millions of people do so every year, it sure smells political from here.

maxsolomon

(38,666 posts)
28. Don't hold your breath.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:59 AM
Jun 2024

I feel like Hunter will go down in history.

Hopefully the sentencing is rational.

Mysterian

(6,450 posts)
23. Hundreds of thousands of MAGAs guilty of these crimes
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:52 AM
Jun 2024

Let's go DOJ ------- let's see them prosecuted too.

 

FredGarvin

(846 posts)
29. Garland is serious about crime in the US
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 12:02 PM
Jun 2024

Sorry to see Hunter getting sent to prison for a lie, but gun control is a serious matter!

CaptainTruth

(8,195 posts)
58. What role does Garland play in sentencing?
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:12 PM
Jun 2024

Honest question. I thought I had a good understanding of how our justice system functioned but that's a new one for me.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
87. The Garland Bashers have this habit
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 07:41 PM
Jun 2024

Of deriding him as both completely stupid and incompetent while at other times ascribing him with ultimate cosmic powers to snap his fingers and make the impossible happen.

Very much like the MAGA are about the Clintons, Obama, the Bidens or (fill in the liberal blank).

hamsterjill

(17,559 posts)
50. Oh brother.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 12:54 PM
Jun 2024

This, at best, has been an attempt by Garland to appear to be impartial. Hunter is an admitted substance abuser who has turned his life around.

Yet this prosecution will give the MAGA’s the right to say “but your son is a convicted…” every time the Biden campaign refers to Trump as a convicted felon.

Garland has been a total disappointment.

quakerboy

(14,857 posts)
77. nothing matters to them
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 02:25 PM
Jun 2024

They are convinced biden, Obama, fauci, and every one of us liberals are criminal purely for existing. So this is kinda irrelevant when it comes to Maga.

Anyone not in Maga can see the difference between a convicted criminal running for office and a candidate having a family member who committed crimes.

And more importantly, they can see the difference between a dude with 34 felony convictions running for office on the promise that he will do it again, bigger and with more lawbreaking, and a president who doesn't bend the law or abuse the office even to protect his own son.

quakerboy

(14,857 posts)
84. Me to
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 03:20 PM
Jun 2024

I mean, probably. Garland is.. a disappointment. I'd still rather have him on the SCOTUS than Gorsuch, but everyone who has apointed him to anything could have done sooo much better, each and every time.

303squadron

(813 posts)
31. Two different men, two different trials, two guilty verdicts
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 12:03 PM
Jun 2024

Two men in desperate need of help.

duhneece

(4,507 posts)
34. Having the possibility of 25 years in prison hanging over your head until sentencing
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 12:05 PM
Jun 2024

It’s a nightmare of waiting.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,476 posts)
42. Statement from President Biden after Hunter's guilty verdict
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 12:43 PM
Jun 2024

This is the statement from President Biden



hadEnuf

(3,605 posts)
43. If the President's son goes to jail by a Trump appointed judge and Trump gets a slap on the wrist,
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 12:44 PM
Jun 2024

then there is a big problem right out in the open.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,476 posts)
46. Statement from President Biden after Hunter's guilty verdict
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 12:46 PM
Jun 2024

This is the statement from President Biden



greatauntoftriplets

(178,948 posts)
73. President Biden is such a good man.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 02:09 PM
Jun 2024

This has to hurt, but he still respects the process. Unlike some people....

aggiesal

(10,767 posts)
74. The problem is, that he already pleaded guilty to the charges in a plea deal ...
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 02:10 PM
Jun 2024

that a Pendejo45 appointed judge declined, because the guilty plea prevented him from any jail time and the judge just did not like that.
The plea fell apart after that.

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
54. Can he get probation?
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:05 PM
Jun 2024

I hate to see him in prison for this. I guess probation is a pain in the butt, but he'd have the threat of the trial behind him.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
61. Good...
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 01:20 PM
Jun 2024

The criminal justice system of Judges, Lawyers and Jurors has successfully resulted in a conclusion, as it's supposed to do.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
70. I feel so
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 02:00 PM
Jun 2024

sorry for President Biden. He has been through so much suffering in his lifetime. I don’t feel sorry for Hunter Biden. He turned to drugs and caused anguish for his father and disgraced the family in so many ways. Why he had to confess all his wrongs in a book is truly baffling. It actually led to this conviction Here’s hoping he stays clean and respects his family.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,196 posts)
76. How often is this charge prosecuted
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 02:19 PM
Jun 2024

When the plaintiff hasn't hurt anyone? I would think that more often it's an add on charge when someone has committed a felony using the firearm.

liberalmediaaddict

(998 posts)
82. Garland has fiercely gone after Biden's son
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 02:52 PM
Jun 2024

Shame he didn't do the same with Trump.

Garland has bent over backwards to be impartial and nonpartisan for 3 years.

The result is House Republicans are trying to prosecute him for contempt of congress and have convinced many voters he's weaponizing the Justice Departmen
t against Trump.

Democrats are finding out again that nice guys finish last.
And Hunter Biden is paying the price.


 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
88. Garland is not the reason why this verdict happened
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 08:00 PM
Jun 2024

He's a department administrator, not a dictator. He did not open investigations into Hunter Biden looking for any dirt they could find--TSF's DOJ did that. Garland did not find that dirt. He did not say, go get him or else, or however you think he or prosecutions work. He did not overturn Hunter's plea deal. He did not render the guilty verdict.

His only crime is apparently letting the justice system do its job without undue interference from him (what he's supposed to do, you know), and that doesn't always work out how one would want. That's just how the cookie crumbles sometimes.

I don't like how Hunter had an agreed-upon plea deal that got trashed for what are apparently malicious political reasons. But I'm realistic enough to understand that he did break the law. Even he admitted that, to get the original plea deal. He gambled on that working for him, and he lost. Anyone with a brain knew he would get found guilty in a court of law, after he'd already confessed to it.

Ultimately, Hunter--and only Hunter--is responsible for his own actions, and for what happened today.

I think the best we can hope for at this point is Hunter getting a sentence quite close to his original plea deal.

Sailingdiver

(364 posts)
83. PJB said he would accept the outcome of the case
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 02:56 PM
Jun 2024

And, continue to respect the judicial system.

Now, all he needs to do is wait until after the election and pardon his son.

He's still shown deference to the judicial system, accepted the verdict, and exercised his authority as the President.

And, the cult will have a meltdown. Win-win.

SunSeeker

(58,245 posts)
85. Juror #10 just said on MSNBC that he didn't think Hunter should go to jail.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 04:04 PM
Jun 2024

Hopefully the judge agrees.

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