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BumRushDaShow

(169,760 posts)
Sun Jun 16, 2024, 04:10 AM Jun 2024

Missouri abortion ban wasn't about lawmakers imposing religious beliefs, judge says

Source: ABC News/AP

June 15, 2024, 4:19 PM


A judge in Missouri says lawmakers who passed a restrictive abortion ban were not trying to impose their religious beliefs on everyone in the state, rejecting a case filed by more than a dozen Christian, Jewish and Unitarian Universalist leaders who support abortion rights.

The groups sought a permanent injunction last year barring Missouri from enforcing its abortion law and a declaration that provisions violate the state Constitution. One section of the statute at issue reads: “In recognition that Almighty God is the author of life, that all men and women are ‘endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among those are Life.’”

Judge Jason Sengheiser said in his ruling Friday that there is similar language in the preamble to the Missouri Constitution, which expresses “profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe.” The rest of the challenged provisions contain no explicit religious language, he said.

“While the determination that life begins at conception may run counter to some religious beliefs, it is not itself necessarily a religious belief,” Sengheiser wrote. “As such, it does not prevent all men and women from worshipping Almighty God or not worshipping according to the dictates of their own consciences.”

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/judge-rejects-religious-leaders-challenge-missouri-abortion-ban-111157417

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Missouri abortion ban wasn't about lawmakers imposing religious beliefs, judge says (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 OP
Bullshit. n/t hlthe2b Jun 2024 #1
I second that! joshdawg Jun 2024 #2
Horse manure Marthe48 Jun 2024 #3
What a liad of horse pucky! Lonestarblue Jun 2024 #4
It was about exactly that. If "almighty God" is in their state constitution that is about religion CousinIT Jun 2024 #5
The 'Almighty God' bullshit is destroying our nation, and the world. pfitz59 Jun 2024 #6
Well let's look at reality Farmer-Rick Jun 2024 #7
Fucking, lying asshole. Appointed by a puke (greitens). niyad Jun 2024 #8
That is some twisted pretzel logic DivByZero Jun 2024 #9
as colo sherman potter woud say, horse hockey. AllaN01Bear Jun 2024 #10
These CLOWN judges were put in place for a reason. bluestarone Jun 2024 #11
If this were actually true, then where is the documented, scientific evidence? dlk Jun 2024 #12
Want to know where this idiot went to seminary. intheflow Jun 2024 #13
What a crock of shit. Blue Idaho Jun 2024 #14
And what is his religion ? republianmushroom Jun 2024 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author GP6971 Jun 2024 #16
Really? If it wasn't about religion, then what is it then? tornado34jh Jun 2024 #17
Actually, yes it does. WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2024 #18
🐃💩🐃💩🐃💩🐃💩🐃💩🐃💩🐃💩🐃💩🐃💩🐃💩🐃 ShazzieB Jun 2024 #19
Of course it's not about religion! The fourth reich will ban abortion for all then mandate it for selected populations. Marcuse Jun 2024 #20

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
4. What a liad of horse pucky!
Sun Jun 16, 2024, 08:03 AM
Jun 2024

“While the determination that life begins at conception may run counter to some religious beliefs, it is not itself necessarily a religious belief.” There is certainly no science that supports this belief. If only religious extremists believe this concept, then it is based on religion. These right-wing religious judges have no business being on the courts if they can’t separate religious myths from facts.

CousinIT

(12,541 posts)
5. It was about exactly that. If "almighty God" is in their state constitution that is about religion
Sun Jun 16, 2024, 08:37 AM
Jun 2024

And religion is the reason the ban was imposed.

So their claim is bullshit.

EDIT: I don't care why they imposed the ban. The reasons are irrelevant. They should not be imposing such bans anywhere for any reason.

PERIOD.

pfitz59

(12,704 posts)
6. The 'Almighty God' bullshit is destroying our nation, and the world.
Sun Jun 16, 2024, 08:41 AM
Jun 2024

It's easy to do harm when you invoke the invisible magical wizard in the sky.

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
7. Well let's look at reality
Sun Jun 16, 2024, 09:07 AM
Jun 2024

How does anyone come to the conclusion that life begins at conception?

There is no scientific evidence to support this idea. A sperm lives, it moves and reacts to chemicals. An unfertilized egg is alive, it reacts to stimuli, it is affected by chemicals.

Why is the conception considered the beginning of life? Just because the 2 cells come together doesn't make it anymore alive than before. Isn't it just the continuation of a biological form?

Why is this type of life consider to need protection when we ignore this same type of cell combination in animals to be just fine to eat or destroy?

This totally unfounded, unscientific idea about this type of human life being superior to animal life or other types of human life has no bases in fact.

It is all based on a religious idea that humans are magically special to an imaginary god. It's
preached in churches and religious people embrace it. It's
In Catholic, Evangelical and others' written religious dogma that a fertilized egg of a human is even more special to a non-existent creator.

bluestarone

(22,179 posts)
11. These CLOWN judges were put in place for a reason.
Sun Jun 16, 2024, 10:46 AM
Jun 2024

DESTROY our great country!! VOTE VOTE VOTE.

dlk

(13,247 posts)
12. If this were actually true, then where is the documented, scientific evidence?
Sun Jun 16, 2024, 10:48 AM
Jun 2024

Is there anything Republicans don't lie about? Their goal is the subjugation and suffering of women, period.

intheflow

(30,179 posts)
13. Want to know where this idiot went to seminary.
Sun Jun 16, 2024, 11:36 AM
Jun 2024

Reverence to a supreme being is completely different than claiming “men and women” were created by God, and that fetuses count as “men and women.” I mean, if Jews believe life begins at first breath - LIKE IT SAYS IN GENESIS - then how is imposing abortion restrictions NOT a theological conclusion. The fucking mental gymnastics these people go through.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

tornado34jh

(1,527 posts)
17. Really? If it wasn't about religion, then what is it then?
Sun Jun 16, 2024, 04:06 PM
Jun 2024

Of course it involves religion! Do they really think we are stupid?

WinstonSmith4740

(3,436 posts)
18. Actually, yes it does.
Sun Jun 16, 2024, 04:44 PM
Jun 2024
“As such, it does not prevent all men and women from worshipping Almighty God or not worshipping according to the dictates of their own consciences.”

The groups that brought this suit need to bring it again, stating that it does, in fact, prevent them from exercising their right to practice their beliefs. Their belief does not ban abortion, why should they have to follow the dictates of another?

Marcuse

(9,010 posts)
20. Of course it's not about religion! The fourth reich will ban abortion for all then mandate it for selected populations.
Sun Jun 16, 2024, 06:02 PM
Jun 2024
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