Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

BumRushDaShow

(169,759 posts)
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 05:34 AM Jun 2024

Jill Stein paid $150,000 to a consultant who was indicted over Biden deepfake robocalls

Source: Business Insider

Jun 20, 2024, 5:54 PM EDT


Jill Stein's presidential campaign hired a political consultant who infamously created deepfake robocalls using President Joe Biden's voice.

The Green Party presidential candidate's campaign paid $150,015 to consultant Steve Kramer in May, according to documents filed with the Federal Election Commission on Wednesday.

Stein campaign manager Jason Call told Business Insider via text that Kramer only did petitioning work in New York, and that he was hired on contract by the campaign between April 16 and the end of May. "We did not know anything about his activities… regarding the robocalls until the petitioning period was almost over," said Call.

Despite paying a hefty sum to Kramer for help with petitioning, Stein failed to make the ballot in New York, with the state Board of Elections determining that her campaign did not submit a sufficient number of signatures.

Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/jill-stein-steve-kramer-biden-deepfake-robocalls-2024-6

28 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Jill Stein paid $150,000 to a consultant who was indicted over Biden deepfake robocalls (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 OP
POS will do what POS's do... hlthe2b Jun 2024 #1
Anyone at all surprised by this? kysrsoze Jun 2024 #2
So, he is claiming they paid more than $150K to a guy but didn't know anything about his 4lbs Jun 2024 #3
If I recall Jill Stein and Michael Flynn in 2015 were in Moscow LiberalFighter Jun 2024 #4
Yup BumRushDaShow Jun 2024 #5
And they look like they're enjoying themselves. tanyev Jun 2024 #8
As facists do Traurigkeit Jun 2024 #25
But Hillary was paid for a speech. Thanks, third party idiots! betsuni Jun 2024 #6
That would be The Wizard Jun 2024 #7
Hired on 16 April, 8 weeks after it was national news that Kramer was behind the fake robocalls muriel_volestrangler Jun 2024 #9
It would be great if there are records that indicate conspiracy. Er, I mean, it would be awful. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2024 #13
Wait! Jill Stein is running for President again??? PatSeg Jun 2024 #10
Not "Green Party" candidate, but Putin Party candidate Wild blueberry Jun 2024 #11
Exposed! oasis Jun 2024 #17
Jill Stein should just come right out and admit it ... FakeNoose Jun 2024 #12
Any doubt that Stein's money came from Russia? Botany Jun 2024 #14
Hard to say. Lots of people here donated to her fake recount in 2016 MichMan Jun 2024 #20
hem. what is deep fake . need input please . thanks oh yea , snork. AllaN01Bear Jun 2024 #15
In this case, in the run up to the NH primary, he was behind robocalls using a fake Biden voice karynnj Jun 2024 #22
thank you for your informationn. AllaN01Bear Jun 2024 #24
Good reporting. Hope it spreads. nt BootinUp Jun 2024 #16
I'll damn sure do my part. (nt) Paladin Jun 2024 #19
Reimbursed by the Kremlin: A Love Story Prairie Gates Jun 2024 #18
Seems like her whole existence in politics is to help donald dump wolfie001 Jun 2024 #21
How remarkably unsurprising. (nt) Paladin Jun 2024 #23
If I recall, Steve Kramer has an interesting story. truthisfreedom Jun 2024 #26
K&R for exposure Blue Owl Jun 2024 #27
She should be charged Historic NY Jun 2024 #28

hlthe2b

(113,971 posts)
1. POS will do what POS's do...
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 05:50 AM
Jun 2024
(and no, I don't believe her spokesperson). Desperation breeds...

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
3. So, he is claiming they paid more than $150K to a guy but didn't know anything about his
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 06:34 AM
Jun 2024

activities?

Mmm-hmm. Okay. Sure.

Heck, if I spend more than $100 (a hundred bucks), I want to know exactly where and what is being done with that money.

But hey, that's just me.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,212 posts)
9. Hired on 16 April, 8 weeks after it was national news that Kramer was behind the fake robocalls
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 09:07 AM
Jun 2024
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/23/politics/deepfake-robocall-magician-invs/index.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/biden-robocall-new-hampshire-strategist-rcna139760
As noted on DU at the time:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218715851
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218713126

How great it must be to have a business that, even after being exposed as a fraud, can still get new $150,000 contracts from people who no doubt knew about the fakes, and saw them as a Good Thing?

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
13. It would be great if there are records that indicate conspiracy. Er, I mean, it would be awful.
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 10:06 AM
Jun 2024

Stein should go home to Mother Russia.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
10. Wait! Jill Stein is running for President again???
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 09:51 AM
Jun 2024

I honestly had no idea. So, is Putin paying her?

oasis

(53,693 posts)
17. Exposed!
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 10:56 AM
Jun 2024

She needs to slowly fade into a private life .
Knowing her character, she won’t.


FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
12. Jill Stein should just come right out and admit it ...
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 10:06 AM
Jun 2024

... she's really an undercover MAGA operative. Also she's taking money from Putin.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
14. Any doubt that Stein's money came from Russia?
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 10:38 AM
Jun 2024

Russia has been at war on America and Western Democracies for years and Ms.
Stein is one of the soldiers in Vlad’s army as is Donny Trump along with Bannon,
Stone, and Flynn.

karynnj

(60,968 posts)
22. In this case, in the run up to the NH primary, he was behind robocalls using a fake Biden voice
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 12:13 PM
Jun 2024

Biden was not on the ballot because the primary was earlier than the DNC allowed. However, there was a strong independent effort to get people to write him in. The robocalls asked people in Biden's faked voice to not vote in this primary. It was found that this operative, paid by Dean Phillips, was behind this. Biden convincingly beat Marriane Williamson and Phillips. Phillips campaign was running as an alternative for people who thought Biden too old.

wolfie001

(7,667 posts)
21. Seems like her whole existence in politics is to help donald dump
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 12:00 PM
Jun 2024

via the russki disinformation highway. She's just a conduit. One of many. Everything else about her is a facade.

truthisfreedom

(23,532 posts)
26. If I recall, Steve Kramer has an interesting story.
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 03:27 PM
Jun 2024

If you haven’t studied exactly who he is and what he did, please do. He’s not pure evil. He may have had Joe’s best interests at heart, but judge for yourselves.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Jill Stein paid $150,000 ...