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mahatmakanejeeves

(69,788 posts)
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 07:40 AM Jun 2024

Putin warns South Korea against arming Ukraine

Source: BBC News

Putin warns South Korea against arming Ukraine

5 hours ago
By Kelly Ng, BBC News

Vladimir Putin has warned South Korea it would be making "a big mistake" if it arms Ukraine in the war against Russia. ... His comments come after Seoul said it was considering such a possibility, in response to Russia and North Korea's new pact to help each other in the event of "aggression" against either country.

Moscow "will... [make] decisions which are unlikely to please the current leadership of South Korea" if Seoul decides to supply arms to Kyiv, Mr Putin told reporters on Thursday.

The Russian leader was speaking in Vietnam, shortly after a lavish visit to Pyongyang where he signed a mutual defence agreement with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. ... Mr Putin also warned that Moscow is willing to arm Pyongyang if the US and its allies continue supplying Ukraine with weapons.

"Those who supply these weapons believe that they are not at war with us. I said, including in Pyongyang, that we then reserve the right to supply weapons to other regions of the world," Mr Putin said.

{snip}

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1ee8x221lno

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Putin warns South Korea against arming Ukraine (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2024 OP
Yeah.................... Lovie777 Jun 2024 #1
I love how he says this: MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #5
Ukraine punched me in the fist with its eye! Turbineguy Jun 2024 #19
War? I thought it was a "special military operation" JoseBalow Jun 2024 #50
Recently, Russia has abandoned the phrase "Special Military Operation" and have now referred MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #52
Well, that's some progress I suppose JoseBalow Jun 2024 #53
Maybe he really doesn't want to screw around with the RoKs. He's spouting off for little Kim. marble falls Jun 2024 #2
I remember meeting some of the RoK in Vietnam, they were fierce fighters whom the VC and NVA MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #6
My father-in-law is a Vietnam Veteran Marine........................ Lovie777 Jun 2024 #9
Tell your FIL Welcome Home Brother and thank him for his service from one Marine to another Marine. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #45
We trained a lot of countries while I was in the Navy at 'A' schools and submarine school in Groton ... marble falls Jun 2024 #11
There are a whole lot of people who had no idea the there were RoK, Aussie and New Zealand troops MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #13
There's a lot of it nobody wants to know, too. It wasn't all nightmare. Other countries sent their best, too. marble falls Jun 2024 #14
I knew about the Aussie and NZ troops but didn't know abut RoK. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #27
Yeah, the RoK Marines scared the hell out of the VC, NVA because they didn't play MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #34
Geez Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #42
Yes, same camo, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #44
I don't remember seeing them. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #46
Here is a great source on the participation of the RoK military's involvment in Vietnam. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #47
Thanks MCE, great article. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #48
At the out break of the Russian/Ukrainian war, I would say that they were not up to par with MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #49
I thought Ukraine had a WWII reputation as being badasses? Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #54
Think Hapkido orangecrush Jun 2024 #15
Agree!!! Grins Jun 2024 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author ColinC Jun 2024 #3
Make Dictators Bad Again Evolve Dammit Jun 2024 #4
How dare South Korea do what I have North Korea doing for me. Ray Bruns Jun 2024 #7
He's so 'tough' JustAnotherGen Jun 2024 #8
"You are not the 'boss' of them Vlad." BComplex Jun 2024 #33
How many times is putin going to make this hollow threat? ExciteBike66 Jun 2024 #10
I have a hard time believing South Korea is in a position to arm Ukraine Raven123 Jun 2024 #12
Well they could send stuff by ship to Europe then by truck to Ukraine..or by cargo plane EX500rider Jun 2024 #40
Dear Vlad Botany Jun 2024 #16
Go home Pooty Poot Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2024 #18
If Russia had any weapons left to share with the world CanonRay Jun 2024 #20
"Putin ... is willing to arm Pyongyang if the US and its allies continue supplying Ukraine" Grins Jun 2024 #21
Don't forget Saint Javelin Botany Jun 2024 #31
I think Putin is threatening nukes? Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #43
Now we understand the "alliance" move with Kim Jong-Un. louis-t Jun 2024 #22
Putin is losing weapons and ammo faster than he can manufacture them KS Toronado Jun 2024 #23
What's Putin going to do about it? Martin68 Jun 2024 #24
Fuck you Putin! Initech Jun 2024 #25
"Willing to arm Pyongyang" orange jar Jun 2024 #26
ah, Russia is begging Kim for arms. Traurigkeit Jun 2024 #36
Kim has arms but can't feed his people. Priorities Deuxcents Jun 2024 #57
He seems to know a lot about big mistakes. C_U_L8R Jun 2024 #28
So, it appears that blue-wave Jun 2024 #29
Or what? quakerboy Jun 2024 #30
Hey, Putin! How about a nice cup of STFU! -misanthroptimist Jun 2024 #32
Oooooo South Korea is so scared. (sarcasm) Traurigkeit Jun 2024 #35
Putin looks and sounds weak. He has to align with the little fat boy to boost his image. patphil Jun 2024 #37
What are you gonna do Comrade Vlad? pwb Jun 2024 #38
You're going to open another front with help from the little DPRK toad, Vlad? LudwigPastorius Jun 2024 #39
Hey Vlad, Pillsbury's looking for a real life mascot ;) n/t Cheezoholic Jun 2024 #41
I wonder what Putin will do with my house and money when he takes over. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2024 #51
When is Putin gonna fall out a 13th story window? KPN Jun 2024 #55
Hey Putin..............pound fucking sand............ turbinetree Jun 2024 #56

Lovie777

(22,949 posts)
1. Yeah....................
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 07:42 AM
Jun 2024

but it's ok to get weapons from NK to further kill and terrorize Ukraine.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,059 posts)
5. I love how he says this:
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 07:51 AM
Jun 2024
Vladimir Putin has warned South Korea it would be making "a big mistake" if it arms Ukraine in the war against Russia


He's claiming that its Ukraine's war against Russia, the part he left out is that he started the war so it would be Russia's war against Ukraine.

I'm not too worried about what Russia can do to S. Korea, S. Korea has a well trained, well equipped military.
Hell, Russia can't even defeat Ukraine.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,059 posts)
52. Recently, Russia has abandoned the phrase "Special Military Operation" and have now referred
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 07:43 PM
Jun 2024

to the illegal invasion as a war.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,059 posts)
6. I remember meeting some of the RoK in Vietnam, they were fierce fighters whom the VC and NVA
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 07:54 AM
Jun 2024

were terrified of and had bounties for every RoK killed.

Yeah, Putin really, really does not want to fuck with S. Korea.
Russia can't even defeat Ukraine.

Lovie777

(22,949 posts)
9. My father-in-law is a Vietnam Veteran Marine........................
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 08:09 AM
Jun 2024

that fought in the jungles. He definitely admires the South Korean Marines that fought side by side with them.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,059 posts)
45. Tell your FIL Welcome Home Brother and thank him for his service from one Marine to another Marine.
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 06:17 PM
Jun 2024

Last edited Fri Jun 21, 2024, 07:28 PM - Edit history (2)

What years was he in VN if you don't mind my asking?"
I might've met him, the Corps isn't exactly huge and in my 35 years as a Marine, I probably came across him, although, after all these years, memories begin to fade.
Peace out
Daniel.

marble falls

(71,904 posts)
11. We trained a lot of countries while I was in the Navy at 'A' schools and submarine school in Groton ...
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 08:31 AM
Jun 2024

... I remember having gotten caught on the grinder at Groton getting to class and having to stand through six or seven national anthems at the Raising of the Colors and being late to my section. Of all of the nations we gave diesel boats to and trained, the South Koreans were the only ones to have all their shit in one sock. Their sailors were impressive and I heard from Marines that the RoKs were as tough as group as anyone and there were some other tough ally troops in the shit with them, like the Aussies.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,059 posts)
13. There are a whole lot of people who had no idea the there were RoK, Aussie and New Zealand troops
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 08:37 AM
Jun 2024

fighting on our side in Vietnam, most thought that it was solely the US fighting in Nam and that Thailand and the Phillipines provided logistical support.

marble falls

(71,904 posts)
14. There's a lot of it nobody wants to know, too. It wasn't all nightmare. Other countries sent their best, too.
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 08:51 AM
Jun 2024

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,059 posts)
34. Yeah, the RoK Marines scared the hell out of the VC, NVA because they didn't play
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 01:51 PM
Jun 2024

around, they didn't exactly play by western standards.
I talked to other US Marines and they pretty much say the same thing, they wouldn't want to go up against the RoK Marines, it would be a losing proposition and speaking as a US Marine, that's quite the compliment.

Irish_Dem

(81,198 posts)
42. Geez
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 06:04 PM
Jun 2024

Good thing they are on our side.

I just did a google on the RoK in VN, looking at their uniforms,
to see if I recognized them. But looks like US GI's?
Same camo?

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,059 posts)
44. Yes, same camo,
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 06:07 PM
Jun 2024

their military pretty much mirrors ours, including their intelligence services.
Their Navy is pretty lethal also and trained by the US Navy.

Irish_Dem

(81,198 posts)
46. I don't remember seeing them.
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 06:23 PM
Jun 2024

One of the places we were stationed is Okinawa during the VN war and the island was jammed
with US troops, all branches. And sometimes foreign troops.

We were on an AF base, but next to a Navy and Marine base.
They were busy training and the AF kids would get on the bus way to the north of the island
and watch troops train. (We had nothing else to do.)

To this day I remember watching Army/Marine? paratroopers practice jumping out of airplanes into the sugar
cane fields. It was a sight to behold. The entire sky filled with parachutes.
(
We tended to get the army and marines confused, the camos looked similar?
The Navy uniform was distinctive.)

We saw all kinds of troops riding the (off duty) buses, but I don't remember the RoK.
Maybe they didn't come to the island to train, or we just didn't see them.
Or maybe the RoK didn't ride around on the military buses off duty.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,059 posts)
47. Here is a great source on the participation of the RoK military's involvment in Vietnam.
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 06:45 PM
Jun 2024
https://namwarstory.com/2018/07/the-roks-republic-of-korean-soldiers-in-vietnam/#:~:text=Many%20American%20GI%E2%80%99s%20who%20served%20in%20Vietnam%20had,fight%20in%20South%20Vietnam%20from%201965%20to%201973.

They're stalworth allies and I am damned glad that they're allies of ours and, IMHO, Putin better watch out pissing of the S. Korean's, they will give Russia a what for.

Irish_Dem

(81,198 posts)
48. Thanks MCE, great article.
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 07:07 PM
Jun 2024
"For reasons of self-preservation, the local VC usually spared the ROK compound from the mortar and rocket attacks the airbase was subjected to."

Sounds like the VC gave the ROK a very wide berth.

Yes South Korea, Taiwan, Philippines, all allies.
SK very much so.

SK probably doesn't want to aggravate Putin too much for fear he will give
North Korea more nuke capability?

How do you think the ROK and Ukraine armies would get a long if they fought together?
Are they in the same league?

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,059 posts)
49. At the out break of the Russian/Ukrainian war, I would say that they were not up to par with
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 07:26 PM
Jun 2024

S. Korean military standards, but giving the Ukrainians' military to adapt to the changing battlefield tactics, I would speculate that US and S. Korean training has contributed to recent Ukrainian advances.
I would speculate that the SK military is a big factor in those advances.

Irish_Dem

(81,198 posts)
54. I thought Ukraine had a WWII reputation as being badasses?
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 07:48 PM
Jun 2024

Maybe I have that wrong.

Oh I would love to be a fly on the wall watching ROK/US train Ukrainian soldiers.
All being done in secret of course.

I assume the US has some "advisors" in Ukraine, if for no other reason
than to make sure all the money is going where it is supposed to go.

Yes Ukraine's adaptability on the battlefield and ability to find
low cost ways to fight the way is incredible. As is their bravery, courage and determination.

Grins

(9,446 posts)
17. Agree!!!
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 10:01 AM
Jun 2024

Knew a US Army officer who was assigned to ROK as a liaison in Korea. Said the discipline in the ROK army was INTENSE!! Physically, too. NCO wore white gloves.

I told my story to an Annapolis grad. He said while coming into port in S.K. they passed a ROK navy ship with the entire crew on deck to watch as a senior petty officer was beating the Holy crap out of some seaman! Who didn't dare resist! Told a fellow officer they should have the crew of their ship all on deck to watch it!

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

ExciteBike66

(2,700 posts)
10. How many times is putin going to make this hollow threat?
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 08:10 AM
Jun 2024

Does it sound tougher in Russian or something?

Raven123

(7,790 posts)
12. I have a hard time believing South Korea is in a position to arm Ukraine
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 08:31 AM
Jun 2024

They are in a geographically vulnerable position and know it. I may be missing something.

EX500rider

(12,578 posts)
40. Well they could send stuff by ship to Europe then by truck to Ukraine..or by cargo plane
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 05:32 PM
Jun 2024

Botany

(77,303 posts)
16. Dear Vlad
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 09:33 AM
Jun 2024

Fuck off. S. Korea makes some really good artillery and it will ruin any Russian’s
day in Ukraine. And that artillery will drop 3 to 5 rounds of high explosives on target
from miles away and then scoot on down the road in under 2 minutes.

When are the Russians going to stop Vlad from killing the people of Russia and stealing
the people’s money.

CanonRay

(16,170 posts)
20. If Russia had any weapons left to share with the world
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 10:33 AM
Jun 2024

they wouldn't be begging from North Korea. Just more Putin bullshit

Grins

(9,446 posts)
21. "Putin ... is willing to arm Pyongyang if the US and its allies continue supplying Ukraine"
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 10:49 AM
Jun 2024

That's a threat. And blackmail.

But that begs the question: "With what, Vlad?"

Your military - and not just the Russian army! - is short of EVERYTHING! To include troops.
You are also running out of tanks, helicopters, and artillery (thus, your hat-in-hand visit to N. Korea.)
Your nuclear submarine that just left Cuba is 'falling apart' with its soundproofing panels falling off.
And remind me again how many Russia ships you lost in the Black Sea to home-made Ukrainian drones?
So many ships destroyed or damaged their movements are restricted or they are confined to port?
Tell me how many of your top-of-the-line T-90 tanks and upgraded T-80 tanks have been taken out by US-supplied 40-year old Bradleys.

Take you threat and shove it up Trump's ass.

Botany

(77,303 posts)
31. Don't forget Saint Javelin
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 01:18 PM
Jun 2024
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Saint_Javelin_art.svg

Good for up close and fun times. Blow the top right off of a Russian tank. And don’t
forget the shaped charges that turn the Russian tanks into flaming piles of dead people
and ruined equipment.

Please Ivan drive that tank down a road or across a farm field in Ukraine and find out what
happens.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
23. Putin is losing weapons and ammo faster than he can manufacture them
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 11:40 AM
Jun 2024

that's why he went to talk to Kim Jong Un, he can't supply anyone with weapons & ammo.

orange jar

(878 posts)
26. "Willing to arm Pyongyang"
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 12:36 PM
Jun 2024

lol! Does the Russian military even have enough weapons to simultaneously arm North Korea and continue fighting with Ukraine?

blue-wave

(5,072 posts)
29. So, it appears that
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 01:04 PM
Jun 2024

Pooty wants to start a war with South Korea. He's definitely not the brightest bulb in the bunch. South Korea has one of the best militaries in the world. Putin is demented.

-misanthroptimist

(1,609 posts)
32. Hey, Putin! How about a nice cup of STFU!
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 01:20 PM
Jun 2024

Seriously, your idiot threats are boring and no one takes Russia seriously anymore. You've lost more than two dozen ships -including a submarine!- to a nation with no navy. Your army sucks. The only thing it has going for it is the huge number of untrained people at Ukraine. And that isn't really working out. Your air force has to shoot from the safety of Russia and then run back to base (where Ukrainian drones will take them out at their leisure). There's little reason to believe that any but a small portion of your nukes even work as anything but dirty bombs at this point.

Ya got nothing, Vlad. Shut and get your shine box.

patphil

(9,057 posts)
37. Putin looks and sounds weak. He has to align with the little fat boy to boost his image.
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 03:29 PM
Jun 2024

That's pretty sad.

pwb

(12,652 posts)
38. What are you gonna do Comrade Vlad?
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 03:52 PM
Jun 2024

You and Un are two little men running shit countries. Fuck off both of you.

LudwigPastorius

(14,707 posts)
39. You're going to open another front with help from the little DPRK toad, Vlad?
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 05:00 PM
Jun 2024

Seems you got enough on your plate in Ukraine, comrade.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
51. I wonder what Putin will do with my house and money when he takes over.
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 07:36 PM
Jun 2024

MAGA does realize everything they have is gone, I hope...do they think Russians live in middle class suburbs?






BTW is everybody clear that the Heritage Foundation is behind the absurd Ten Commandments law in LA so they can get a corrupt SC to say there is no such thing as separation of church and state?

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