House Democrats Consider Demanding Biden Withdraw From Race

[JohnSJ]

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Source: Bloomberg News Exclusive

"Dozens of Democratic lawmakers are considering signing a letter demanding President Joe Biden withdraw from the race, a senior party official said, as panic mounts that he'll cost them control of Congress.

Biden is rapidly losing the support of Democratic lawmakers and candidates concerned the 81-year-old's continued candidacy would lead to a Republican sweep of Washington and an unchecked Donald Trump presidency.

Democrats running for reelection in traditionally safe Democratic districts are circulating the letter, the official said, underscoring how widespread the panic is within the party.

The White House earlier Wednesday denied a New York Times report that the president is considering bowing out of the contest just four months before the election. But congressional Democrats raise concerns that Biden's presence at the top of the ticket is a liability."





Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-03/biden-debate-disaster-will-cost-them-house-and-senate-democrats-fear?srnd=homepage-americas

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due to the firewall nature of nonsubscribers, here is some additional information:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?comview_post&forum1014&pid3265816

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2024-07-03/house-dems-consider-demanding-biden-withdraw-from-race-video

[gab13by13]

1. shameful not naming who the senior party official is.

[regnaD kciN]

34. "Many people are saying..."

[Ocelot II]

53. If these Democrats want him to withdraw they should

grow a pair and put their names on their demand. Just fucking own it. Otherwise they should stop leaking this kind of crap and STFU.

[Traurigkeit]

72. Planted story by corporate news.

[Fiendish Thingy]

2. Fucking surrender monkeys. Nt

[The Magistrate]

4. People Need To Start Naming Names, Sir

Gussied up rumor retailed by who the hell knows is just part of an attempt to stampede a herd towards a cliff.

[JohnSJ]

10. Here is more specifics from that article, since I am sure there is a firewall to prevent non-subscribers from reading

the full article.

There are names here:

"https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3265816

[Cha]

41. Sorry, I don't see any " House names" except

James Clyburn.

[JohnSJ]

44. No problem Cha. This is a very trying time for all of us, and the press is not our friend. I have rationalized

that President Biden, his advisors, and the Democrats will make the right decisions.

[Celerity]

78. here is the archive link to the whole article, no paywall

https://archive.ph/oajVO

all you need do is use that site going forward

here is the main link

https://archive.ph/

and here is another

https://wayback-api.archive.org/

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

17. Ding, ding, ding, we hava winna!! Yet some here are fallin for it... it's gotta stop!!

Joe just needs to stay strong and keep fighting for We The People who voted him to be our democratically elected nominee. We need to ignore all these media pundits looking to line their pockets with fabricated breaking news... don't fall for the distractions people!!

[littlemissmartypants]

5. After everything our great President has done...

This is how he's rewarded? Disgusting!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

18. BEYOND disgusting!!

[JohnSJ]

6. Since there is probably a firewall that may prevent the full article, here is some additional information

from that same article:

"Charles Myers, Signum Global Advisors chairman and founder, a top donor to Biden’s campaign, said during an interview on “Bloomberg Surveillance” that events are moving “much faster against the president” than he expected.

“I think they got probably another five to six days,” he said.

Things Are Moving Fast Against President, Top Donor Says (Video)

Myers said he was with Biden Friday night, and the president “was very together and very alert. So he needs to show that to the American people.”

Biden called Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer on Wednesday and was slated to speak to close ally South Carolina Representative James Clyburn Wednesday, people familiar with the calls said.

Clyburn earlier on CNN said Biden needs to conduct “town-hall” style events to prove his mental acuity and assuage fears over his candidacy.

If Biden cannot continue to run, Clyburn said he would support an open convention to choose a nominee, adding he thinks Vice President Kamala Harris would do well in that process."

[EarlG]

15. Looks to me like Biden allies offering advice about

what he needs to do strategically to regain confidence following the debate.

Still not seeing any names of people signing letters or publicly calling for Biden to drop out...

[JohnSJ]

23. True, but names such as Clyburn, Schumer, etc. are considering it as a possibility. I guess the main just of this is

that there are discussions currently going on, and I am reading into this depending how Friday's interview goes, and campaigning in the next two weeks, the polls will help determine what path should be taken.

The positive side of this is that whatever happens, there is plenty of time for us to recover

[LeftInTX]

36. I think they should look at Biden's performance and NOT polls.

Although performance is subjective, polls are only snapshots in time and reflect the debate. They're gonna be bad for awhile, even if Joe's performance improves significantly.

They also can look at videos of events in the recent past and judge for themselves. Yes, the debate was bad and it's got everyone talking for obvious reasons, but it was one event.

Joe has had communication issues recently and the teams should have been aware of this. I really think he could benefit from some speech therapy. I believe he is trying to prevent hoarseness by talking soft. This is forcing him to use his upper airway and it's making everything worse. He should be speaking from his diaphragm. I know he's had speech in the past, but I had a recent small fracture on my fourth toe. A minor thing, But after only a month, my gate and stride are already off.

There needs to be better mic settings. Also, the make up on Monday was a good thing.

If these things can be fixed with minimal interventions, I don't see a reason to replacement him.

[Cha]

42. Neither do I.

[Bayard]

60. I like the town halls idea

[Bayard]

61. Keep having a problem with getting posted twice

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

7. This can't be happening... will someone please wake me up from this nightmare!!

[Biophilic]

11. It more than likely isn't happening. But it makes for lots of talking on the internet.

It's this kind of story that brings money into the so called news outlets. They are playing us as, I think, is the guy who keeps posting these.

[JohnSJ]

25. No I am not "playing us". That is a personal attack, and I resent that insinuation. I would use stronger terms, but I

actually try to abide by the TOS.

[BComplex]

14. I'm with you Inabluestate.

This is a total nightmare. Destabilizing the democratic ticket at this late stage in the election is dangerous in the extreme. Anyone calling for him to step down doesn't know WTF they are about to do.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

19. Seriously!! How can some people not see this?!

[EastBayGuy]

8. STOP POSTING SHIT LIKE THIS!

[iemanja]

30. That's right!

If only it weren't on DU, it would all go away!

[honest.abe]

32. Its serious news. It needs to be discussed here.

[0rganism]

46. Sorry, it's a legitimate topic of conversation

The presidential campaign is a major topic of public interest, and people around the world are discussing it. Naturally you're free to mask such posts so you don't have to see them. Please don't expect them to stop before coverage of the topic itself stops. You're only going to spike your blood pressure.

[EastBayGuy]

59. But is this legitimate? Names anyone?

[0rganism]

65. This article in particular or the story in general?

Hell, I've seen more than one currently-serving Democrat openly go on cable news shows expressing such concerns. Apparently enough people think it's sufficiently important for it to merit discussion in the news cycle to the practical exclusion of numerous other pertinent topics.

[Biophilic]

9. As far as I can tell everyone of your posts helps to drag Biden down.

You keep posting MSM posts which include few or even no names, and just support republican efforts to defeat us in November. What gives?

[JohnSJ]

26. That's it. You are personally attacking me and making false accusation against me.

I have been here since 2004, a hell of lot longer than YOU HAVE BEEN, and if you actually did a search you would see that I have been a strong Biden supporter throughout. It is only in the last few days I that I have been posting stories from reputable news sources about what is happening, and guess what bud, Jamie Raskin has been pretty much saying the same thing.

This current story is an exclusive from Bloomberg, which is a reputable source. In case you are unaware, Bloomberg a week ago donated 20 million to Biden.

So cut crap out.

You want to have a discussion or debate, fine, but don't start calling me out with ulterior motives.

[iemanja]

31. Republicans want Biden as the nominee

Replacing him, as they have made clear, would upend Trump's campaign. So to report NEWS that you find inconvenient and want banished from your sensitive eyesight is not promoting Republican efforts. Also, why is it do you think Republican efforts are focused on DU? Clearly such stories are all over the press, but you're concerned that they be kept off DU. Why? Do you series think the GOP's campaign efforts are limited to this site? That would be colossally stupid of them.

[hlthe2b]

54. The news right now is hard to take. And the anonymity makes it hard to know what is real and what

may be planted stories designed to "manipulate" public opinion... Bloomberg is typically reliable so... ? But still anonymous sources.

I'd suggest you join me in taking a bit of a break right now. Sanity for the long-run///

[EarlG]

12. Still no names though?

Pretty amazing that this letter is circulating but nobody has provided the contents or the names of the signers or who is circulating it.

Still, it's handy for getting rank and file Democrats like folks in this thread to start throwing people under the bus. Although, it's hard to throw people under the bus if you don't even know who they are.

[NotHardly]

13. That is a bat shit crazy stupid idea... just STFU

[oasis]

16. "Considering signing a letter demanding" wtf?

How is such a letter even presented to potential signers?
Is there a signing table or a guy going around with a clipboard?
Sounds like made up bullshit to me.
“Considering signing”

[orange jar]

20. Right, "considering".

Let us know when they actually do it.

[Fiendish Thingy]

21. I suspect the Problem Solvers are behind this

One of them wrote an Op-Ed yesterday announcing he would “be OK” with a Trump presidency.

A Democrat wrote that.

Rep Golden from Maine.

[honest.abe]

47. How many members are considered the "Problem Solvers"?

[Fiendish Thingy]

51. The Dem members are "centrists" in solid blue districts.

You’d think they might be cautious reps from swing districts, but no, they are bought and paid for safe blue seats.

https://problemsolverscaucus.house.gov/caucus-members

[honest.abe]

52. Wow.. quite a large group. More than 50.

Thanks!

[lapucelle]

70. Not to excuse the self-serving editorial, but Golden is in an R+6 district.

https://www.cookpolitical.com/cook-pvi/2022-partisan-voting-index/district-map-and-list

[ImNotGod]

22. Democrats need to quit eating their own. nt

[ImNotGod]

24. Where's the beef??? No names, just corporate rumor mill. I pass. nt

[jmbar2]

27. Biden plans to talk with democratic colleagues, as he does every day...

..and an unidentified person says that they "MIGHT" talk about something...

OMG, THE SKY IS FALLING!

This really sounds like a fake "story", planted by a malign entity, picked up by craven media competing for dumb eyeballs.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

28. I do not believe this story any more than I believe the crap from the NYT and CNN

The NYT and CNN are pushing false stories about President Biden dropping out

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[onetexan]

48. of course CNN is working to promote the RW nonsense

[Freethinker65]

29. Show me the letter.

[honest.abe]

33. Things appear to be moving rather quickly.

Surprised the WH and Joe are not being more public denying all this and fighting back.

[JohnSJ]

35. Here is the Bloomberg radio video report. You may have to unmute on upper left corner

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2024-07-03/house-dems-consider-demanding-biden-withdraw-from-race-video

[choie]

37. So the primary system be damned, huh?

Since when do they have a voice over we the people?

[JohnSJ]

38. It is the President's decision, not this "possible letter from Congressional Democrats" asking him to, which

should be pointed out has not been released yet.

[msongs]

39. not LB N. presents opinions and a fantasy scenario not supported by facts nt

[JohnSJ]

40. This is not an opinion piece this is a news report. You don't want to believe it, that is your right.

Here is the Bloomberg Radio Report:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2024-07-03/house-dems-consider-demanding-biden-withdraw-from-race-video

you may have to click on the upper left to umute.

There is a WH press conference going on right now being shown on MSNBC and CNN talking about the debate "blowback".

The question about the report is will they actually release this letter.

[onetexan]

43. Falling into the RW's trap! These idiots need to back off and the party needs to unify around Prez Biden ASAP.

[honest.abe]

45. These "idiots" are elected Democrats.

[JohnSJ]

50. Without a doubt.

[dlk]

49. This is only helping Trump

What is wrong with them?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

55. Wow!!!!

You know what I'm seeing less and less of here?
Those demanding that Been A Dick Donald withdraw from the race, especially from new sign ups.
Hmmm, could there be a trend here?

[The Unmitigated Gall]

56. Goddamn bedwetters.

GET BEHIND YOUR CANDIDATE AND FIGHT!!!!

Jeezus. It's like, we're fighting Rommel and they want to send Patton back to the states.

[JohnSJ]

58. The press is obsessed with this, and this must get resolved ASAP. It is really pathetic that some

Congressional Democrats choose to reach out to the press threatening to send a letter to President Biden asking him to step down.

As usual we our are worst enemies. We don't need republicans to screw us, some Democrats in Congres are doing a good job of that.

This crap has to end quickly because donations and support will start drying up.

We are dealing with a very hostile press.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

64. They're trying to stampede us while we're off balance. nt

I'm not a general, but that's a well-known military tactic and unbelievable that democrats in office would fall for it.

They want Joe to go...why?

He's the ONLY person who ever beat Trump.

[getagrip_already]

57. just more smoke and mirrors trying to become news....

no names, no facts, just made up gossip.

There is no there, here. none.

take a breather. have a sleep.

[Farmer-Rick]

62. Russian trolls and Trump worshippers are pushing this

Just like they pushed the Hillary Clinton email crap. Do Not buy into this. It's all spin and manipulation.

Biden has beaten Trump in the past and he can do it again.

Giving up an incumbent president for someone new this late in the game is a guarantee that Trump will win. Trump will look like the incumbent if Dems put in someone new now. That is why Trump's minions, Putin Trolls and the corrupt corporate media are pushing this.

Switching in a new person, who has never served as president, is a death sentence for Democrats and Putin and Trump knows it.

[Bayard]

63. OMG! OMG!

Democrats in disarray! Danger, danger, Will Robinson!

[The Bopper]

66. Putting the F

In F-off. The R’s stick with their convicted felon through thick and thin and these wimpy-azz wussies look for a reason to surrender. Climb back into your mommies arm and let the real world pass you by and by the way—GET OUT and let a real Democratic person take your place.

[tonekat]

67. Great; "Democrats In Disarray" on display. N/T

[oasis]

75. That's exactly what they want America to believe.

So called, main stream media feverishly trying to sell print and air time on a completely unsubstantiated story.

[JoseBalow]

68. I heard things

[JohnSJ]

69. Let's not kid each other. There are Congressional Democrats who went to the press with a letter

which they threatened to send to the President asking him to step down.

This is more than "I heard", it is a threat by some Congressional Democrats.

That being said, it isn't a hopeless situation, and it is unfortunate to say the least that these congressional Democrats decided to go to the press with this.

This isn't the first time something like this happened. The progressive caucus did something similar with the situation in Ukraine that completely fell flat on its face:

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2022/10/25/progressive-caucus-retracts-ukraine-letter-00063310#:~:text=Well%2C%20that%20backfired%3A%20The%20Congressional,intense%20backlash%20from%20other%20Democrats.

It may be the same situation with this. What is apparent is that the media is out for blood against Biden, and President Biden will need to curb this quickly, I would say within two weeks maximum in order to move forward.

[kacekwl]

73. If you are afraid

of losing control of congress get your lazy ass out there and do some campaigning to save your seat and support other democrats. I see zero effort from Congress except the select few who always stand up. Work for your seat and your $$$$ and perks.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

74. I am standing with President Biden

[texasfiddler]

76. Damn this is quick and fast.

It will be our demise.

[Joinfortmill]

77. Well, bless their hearts.

[Mike Nelson]

79. Good grief...

... I think it's strange that "dozens" are thinking of "demanding" he withdraw. Have they met with Biden? He looked fine today... he has an interview Friday and a NATO meeting soon. What do these House Democrats know that we don't know? Why don't they reveal their names and share their findings? I mean... "demanding" ... that's inappropriate.

[Lasher]

80. Locking.

We think this is speculation and analysis.