Another House Democrat calls on Biden to withdraw from race

[brooklynite]

Source: CNN

Democratic Rep. Raúl Grijalva of Arizona has become the second sitting Democrat in Congress to call on President Joe Biden to drop out of the presidential race, according to an interview with The New York Times.

“If he’s the candidate, I’m going to support him, but I think that this is an opportunity to look elsewhere,” Grijalva told the Times. “What he needs to do is shoulder the responsibility for keeping that seat — and part of that responsibility is to get out of this race.”

Grijalva joins Rep. Lloyd Doggett of Texas as just one of two elected Democrats on Capitol Hill to call for Biden to step down from the ticket.


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/biden-trump-election-07-03-24#h_7ae28b285eee2fe7c8fdbd4a33488cdb

[50 Shades Of Blue]

1. Really getting tired of this...

[kelly1mm]

15. Unfortunately you are likely to hear more over the coming days..... nt

[womanofthehills]

20. Add Jullian Castro to list according to NYT

NYT

Julián Castro, a former presidential candidate who ran against President Biden in the 2020 Democratic primaries, said on Tuesday that Mr. Biden should drop out of the race, pointing to Vice President Kamala Harris as a potential replacement at the top of the Democratic ticket.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/us/politics/julian-castro-biden-election.html

[LeftInTX]

23. What does he know? Homeboy got only 1.9% of the primary vote in San Antonio.

[lapucelle]

28. He's not in Congress. N/T

[MontanaMama]

78. Indeed.

[jmbar2]

2. Stop, just stop

[brooklynite]

3. You would feel better if you didn't know?

[Traurigkeit]

24. Yes !

Why broadcast STUPIDITY it is already being done for The Sick Convicted Felon

[PortTack]

52. ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️

[totodeinhere]

83. Myself I want to know both the good news and the bad news.

My feelings about it are irrelevant. I want to know the facts on both sides of every story. I support Joe 100%, but I want to know what Democrats in Congress are calling for him to quit. I guess that's just me. I am a curious person.

[Tumbulu]

60. YES!!!!!!

what the hell???!!!! I am sick and tired of this stupidity!!!! The mainstream media is pulling on Biden what they did to Hilary and you repeat this here? The place we come to support each other?

Just stop it!!!!!!!!

[flying_wahini]

4. This pisses me off to no end. I hope Biden gives him a personal call today.

[brooklynite]

5. The way Biden can stop this is to speak to the American public.

[emulatorloo]

14. That's what he's doing though. Another public event today, interview w ABC on Friday.

[brooklynite]

16. Today's event was not about the campaign.

He (not his press secretary, not his campaign manager, not the Party Chair) has to clearly state and present that he's up to running and winning this campaign.

[emulatorloo]

18. What do you think the ABC interview is going to cover Friday? All that and more.

His speech today was quite good, btw. Part of his Presidential Duties.

[brooklynite]

21. The point is that Friday is more than a week from the debate.

This issue has festered because it hasn't been addressed clearly up to now.

And, no, a fundraising email saying "I'm staying in" doesn't address the problem either.

[emulatorloo]

42. C'mon man. He spoke to the American people the DAY AFTER the debate. And Friday is the day after tomorrow, not some

far distant future.

You’re simultaneously grasping at straws and moving the goalposts.

You’re better than this.

[PortTack]

53. Thank you!

[Polybius]

69. But he didn't take questions n/t

[LiberalFighter]

45. He showed up at a watch party after the debate

And had good interaction with those there.

The following day he attended another event and had a strong showing.

[Tumbulu]

61. He just did and keeps doing so

but he is actually rather busy doing his day job, don't you think?

[Bluethroughu]

6. No F-ing way! He's a big F-ing deal!

He is wise and a winner.

[Freethinker65]

7. Way to straddle the fence. What a fool. Pull his campaign funding.

[displaced in ID]

8. hmmmm

So, this must mean that neither of these candidates wants an endorsement from Biden? And of course no campaign funding either. Who are these people trying to impress with these statements?

[brooklynite]

12. Our Frontline candidates won't be looking for a Biden endorsement....

....they already have Democratic voters and they need Independents and moderate Republican voters.

[Captain Zero]

31. These Dems should also

call on Trump to leave on the grounds he fucked a 12 year old girl according to the Epstein revelations.

[jmowreader]

47. Not to mention...

...he's already facing prison time in New York and he's up on charges in two federal courts and in Georgia.

But yeah...if Trump would remove himself from the ballot and promise not to interfere in the election, that would be the only way I could support Biden not being on the ballot.

[brush]

9. Too early. It's Joe's decision. Give him space to decide.

Rep. Grijalve somehow forgot to say the lying, sexual predator, convicted ciminal, rapist insurrectionist should step down also.

WTH?

[LeftInTX]

10. And how is this presto-chango gonna happen?

Most state election codes were written in the 1980's or even more recently.

Having a 1968 style open convention is not consistent with modern election codes. Current election codes support the primary election of the presidential nominee. If Biden withdraws or dies after August 22 in Texas, the electors will elect the VP.

Texas must submit a ballot change by August 22. However, I'm sure other states have different deadlines.

Sec. 192.062. PRESIDENTIAL OR VICE-PRESIDENTIAL PARTY NOMINEE. (a) The secretary of state shall certify in writing the name of a political party's replacement nominee for president or vice-president of the United States as follows:

(1) for placement on the ballot for an original nominee who withdraws, dies, or is declared ineligible on or before the 74th day before presidential election day if the party's state chair delivers certification of the replacement nominee's name, signed by the state chair, to the secretary of state not later than 5 p.m. of the 71st day before presidential election day; or

(2) to the nominating party's presidential elector candidates for an original nominee who withdraws, dies, or is declared ineligible after the 74th day before presidential election day if the party's state chair delivers certification of the replacement nominee's name, signed by the state chair, to the secretary of state not later than 2 p.m. on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December of a presidential election year.

These are knee-jerk reactions that are just creating chaos.

[Abundance77]

11. Chicken

The Tough get going when the going goes tough

[emulatorloo]

13. Grijalva and Doggett? Sorry Chris, just not impressed by those 2. Oh btw on a related topic

Fox News posts 40 articles in 3 days urging Democrats to remove Biden from the race.

Why are Republicans so desperately begging for Biden to quit?

From David Pakman Show sub on reddit

https://np.reddit.com/r/thedavidpakmanshow/comments/1duc0zj/fox_news_posts_40_articles_in_3_days_urging/

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That’s why I’m not impressed that Grijalva and Doggett are unknowingly amplifying a Fox News propaganda campaign.

[Traurigkeit]

27. Corporations are SCARED of another 4 years of Biden GETTING THINGS DONE ! They do not want government to work.

Corporations hold point is to prove government doesn't work, the reason for Republicans and the lie of 'conservative'.

[Walleye]

36. According to the mainstream media, these two represent "a growing chorus of Democrats"

[EarlG]

17. Grijalva's contact information:

https://grijalva.house.gov/about-raul/contact-raul/

In case any of you solid base voting, President-supporting, true blue Democrats would like to let him know how you feel about this wishy washy nonsense.

(Keep it civil.)

[Traurigkeit]

25. From his photo, he doesn't look in great shakes, shouldn't he step aside for a younger person there ?

[sheshe2]

32. Well done, EarlG. Well done.

In case any of you solid base voting, President-supporting, true blue Democrats would like to let him know how you feel about this wishy washy nonsense.

[LeftInTX]

38. Done. Told him that an alternate candidate would not be allowed in NV or WI.

Wisconsin does not allow a candidate's name to be withdrawn from the ballot except due to death.

Nevada allows changes to its ballot up until 5:00pm on the fourth Friday of June in the election year. It also allows special consideration for if nominees die or are determined to be mentally unable to proceed.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/heritage-foundation-working-on-election-legal-challenges-in-case-biden-pulled-from-dnc-nomination/ar-BB1p7oYY

[Cha]

75. Wow.. and Thank You! You'd think

they'd know rules like this Before Spouting Off!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

41. You just had to put in that last line. I had a good NSFW rant going in my head.

[Kali]

43. done

and I'm local

[Cha]

73. Thank you!.. "...look elsewhere.." Where?

Anybody who's anybody Supports Pres Biden as our Candate. :

[blue-wave]

19. We are on the eve of

Our nation's independence day celebration. I am beyond disgusted with how our president is being treated. There is no patriotism in suggesting this.

[Walleye]

37. Trump and Putin are two people that would be very happy to see Joe step aside

[LeftInTX]

22. Did Dems ask:

George McGovern to step down.
Jimmy Carter to step down
Walter Mondale to step down
Mike Dukakis to step down???????

I've never heard of this stuff...

McGovern always was a long shot.
Jimmy Carter's presidency was falling apart.
Mondale was not polling well
Neither was George Dukakis.


____

This is all the media is talking about.
We only have local stations here at home.
That's pretty bad.
These actions are defining the narrative.

They're really stupid and literally throwing the election to Trump.
A new nominee is not going to move the needle and is going to hurt the Democrats election chance even more.
This is reckless and crazy.
Unless Biden is in really bad shape, they need to shut up.

It's only been a week since the debate fiasco. Jeezus. A shitty debate and bad polls resulting from the debate and "let's throw him out". Will any Dem want to run again if they're afraid they will be thrown to the wolves like this?

[Blue Owl]

26. You know who really backs your decision, Raul?

The fucking corrupt REPUBLICANS, that's who.

[Silent Type]

29. Eating our own ain't pretty.

[Botany]

30. Attn Rep. Grijalva

Joe Biden is doing the best job I have ever
seen as President. The man is transformational in what he has gotten done and what he will do.

[LuvLoogie]

33. Fuck him.

I hope we gain a congressperson or two in Texas. He's a placeholder.

[LeftInTX]

34. Sorry...Biden will not be replaced in Nevada or Wisconsin

Heritage Foundation working on election legal challenges in case Biden pulled from DNC nomination

Wisconsin does not allow a candidate's name to be withdrawn from the ballot except due to death.

Nevada allows changes to its ballot up until 5:00pm on the fourth Friday of June in the election year. It also allows special consideration for if nominees die or are determined to be mentally unable to proceed.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/heritage-foundation-working-on-election-legal-challenges-in-case-biden-pulled-from-dnc-nomination/ar-BB1p7oYY

[LisaL]

35. There should be no one on the ballot at this time because

no one has been officially nominated.

[LeftInTX]

39. That's what the article states.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/heritage-foundation-working-on-election-legal-challenges-in-case-biden-pulled-from-dnc-nomination/ar-BB1p7oYY

[LeftInTX]

44. The GOP will sue under ballot access laws to screw with the Democratic Party if President Biden is not on ticket

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19100300

[CBHagman]

82. Thank you for pointing that out. Anyone who's been watching elections the past quarter century...

...knows very well that there will be legal moves to sow doubt and create chaos. It is inexcusable to entertain talk of removing Biden from the ticket without addressing that, especially in light of the time it takes to resolve legal challenges and the ugly reality that there's a closely divided Senate and a Republican-led House. The 2000 presidential election will look like a Sunday school picnic next to what we know the right wing generally and Republicans specifically are capable of. We've seen it, including on January 6th.

[Maxheader]

40. fuck Ral Grijalva..

How many speech slurring, retarded moments have the rightys shown? Mitch the bitch mckonel? Remember him?
Nixon, reagon, bush junior have all had their "special" moments and no one asked for their resignation. Biden has to
much backup for americuns to worry about senior moments. That senior has the very important gift of years of experience.

[58Sunliner]

46. FU Grijalva. Just shut the eff up.

Who the hell does he think will win?? What is with these people? I have been impressed by Harris as VP but she will not win. They will tear her apart. Those of us from California who remember her rise from San Francisco and the circumstances know they will use that against her. I don't know where this is coming from but it is suicide.

[barbtries]

49. playing right into the fascists' hands.

this is too depressing to contemplate. fuck these people.

[texasfiddler]

50. Biden will be on the ballot and I am so happy that the Democrats complaining will be forced to vote for him.

[BoomaofBandM]

51. He seems to have a problem with older democrats. Tried to oust Nancy Pelosi.

[LeftInTX]

65. They seem to think conventions are like 1968 when primary elections were irrelevant

This ain't the sixties anymore!

[Scruffy1]

54. Relax

Grijalve is no fool. He's trying to get elected to the United States and sway some Trump voters.

[padah513]

59. No, he is a fool. Republican-lite never works for Democrats. There are hundreds of examples.

[sdfernando]

55. If I were Mr.Jefferies

I would be taking names. When he becomes SOH he can consider that when doing committee assignments.

[Aussie105]

56. Sure, why not?

Just replace Biden.

Now ask those who call for that to suggest someone more capable, someone they can guarantee the party will win against Trump.

Cute cricket noises ensues.

I hate people who want to demolish what we have now without a viable alternative path.
Sounds too much like the Anarchist Doctrine. Burn it down, stand back, and expect something better to blossom organically.
(One of my little shortcomings.)

[StarryNite]

57. I am really disappointed in him.

What a jerk he turned out to be.

[LeftInTX]

64. He's been in congress for over 20 years...

[AZLD4Candidate]

58. The same Ral Grijalva that when I went to his office for help with my wife's green card completely blew me off

and told me his office had more important things to do than help me?

The same Raúl Grijalva?

John Fetterman's office got my wife here in ten days after four years of gridlock. Raúl Grijalva ignored me completely and his office hung up on me.

[padah513]

62. Wish I could rec twice

[LeftInTX]

63. He looks like a do-nothing, fuddy-duddy

[Warpy]

66. I have only one thing to say to these cretins

WHAT THR GUVK IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?

That is all. I want an answer, too.

[murielm99]

67. Why do people keep posting these horseshit threads?

[sheshe2]

68. Hey Brook!

While you were sleeping the Governors, including your own, swung their full support behind Biden!!!!

[Polybius]

71. I misread that entirely

I thought that you were accusing Brooklynite of sleeping with Governors, including his own.

[sheshe2]

72. 😆😆😆😆😆

[Cha]

77. "Meet Biden's biggest fan: Her name is Kathy Hochul"

SHE’S NOT BUDGING: As other Democrats come out of the woodwork to ask President Joe Biden to step aside, Gov. Kathy Hochul’s support for the president as a surrogate for the Biden-Harris reelection campaign hasn’t wavered.

If anything, it’s intensified.

“We have the best candidate running right now, and that is President Joe Biden,” the governor said on MSNBC Sunday, stumping for the president when he needs it most.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/new-york-playbook-pm/2024/07/03/hochul-biden-surrogate-campaign-support-debate-00166513

Mahallo, she for Making me look that up!

[sheshe2]

79. Excellent statement from the Governor of NY, Cha!

That is full-throated support! Loud and Powerful, she couldn't be clearer.

Thank you, NY!💙

[Cha]

81. Yes, Thank You, New York! 💙💙💙

I couldn't find anything on If Gov Hobbs Still supports Pres Biden but will keep an Eye out.

[oasis]

70. Half baked maverick.

[liberalhistorian]

74. Who the fuck is he

and who the fuck does he think he is? Never heard of him and it sounds like he's trying to audition for the AZ GOP!

[NoMoreRepugs]

76. If these two were Rethugs calling for Trumpy to quit because of felony convictions

or the Epstein connection they would be chastised and bodily threatened the same hour, Dems just keep baking cookies.

[Joinfortmill]

80. Nope. Joe's running and he's gonna win, BIGLY!