Donald Trump rushed off stage at rally after sound of gunshots ring out

[peppertree]

Source: The Guardian

Donald Trump was whisked off stage in Pennsylvania after apparent gunshots rang through the crowd.

Video footage showed Trump being escorted to a vehicle by secret service agents.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/jul/13/trump-rally-gun-shots-pennsylvania-latest-updates

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Trump seen bleeding from the ear from a possible gunshot graze at the start of a Butler, PA, rally.

A "Bolsonaro" ploy?

[Blue Owl]

1. Please take him home, Lord

Oooops, I mean Satan….

[2naSalit]

2. Couldn't have been too bad...

He walked off the stage and got in the Beast not an ambulance.

[AZ8theist]

91. Some are calling for the arrest and prosecution of the shooter..if there actually WAS a shooter...

...If someone actually took a shot they should be prosecuted. Prosecuted for lousy aim.

(this has Russian staged disinformation written ALL OVER IT....)

[C Moon]

110. Someone was shot in the head, and the shooter was killed.

[niyad]

146. "alleged shooter".

[Traurigkeit]

160. Terrible shot. How can you miss something SO LARGE ?

[The Grand Illuminist]

170. Let this be our Sandy Hook?

The last thing we need.

[former9thward]

234. You favor assassination?

[oldsoftie]

249. What about this news so far points to anything Russian?

[asuhornets]

257. I concur.

[Polybius]

37. No, i want to win in November

[Polybius]

180. No, I want Biden to win in November

[lodownhodown]

111. karma is a bitch

just ask George Wallace

[The Grand Illuminist]

202. Correct response

Wallace had it worse and there was dancing in the street when it happened. Trump is no different.

[former9thward]

235. You favor assassination?

[Richluu]

244. Shooter ID...Republican

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/7/13/2254078/-Breaking-News-FBI-identifies-Suspected-Shooter-PA-Records-Show-He-Was-a-Registered-Republican?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web

[onandup]

3. Where did you hear "bleeding from the ear"?

?

[Silent Type]

5. You can see it in this video and a later one where they are helping him off.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219147384

[onandup]

6. Saw the video - he did grab his ear

hm

[Marthe48]

18. Probably had fake blood to pop

to look wounded

Now he can be head wound traitor

Just remembered there was a biblical prophecy that the had a head wound that was miraculously healed and the people marvel. Someone is amping up the religious crap.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beast_(Revelation)

[Blue Full Moon]

38. PR stunt

He hasn't been in the headlines.
Sorry but he is a rather large target to miss.
I'll send thoughts and prayers.

Biden and Harris need extra security. They seem to do something like this and then really do it.

[BrightKnight]

78. It smells like political theater to me. nt

[niyad]

155. EXACTLY!!!

[calimary]

169. Wouldn't surprise me.

But then again, I wouldn't put ANYTHING past him, for the sake of getting more attention and dominating the headlines.

I expect he'll milk the dickens outta this. For sympathy, mainly.

[rubbersole]

171. Fundraising bonanza.

[Polybius]

77. Stop it

[debm55]

123. It didn't look like blood. A graze will get you blood.

[LeftInTX]

12. Here. He was hit.

[4TheArts]

81. Enlarged this pic

From my experience (former USAF Military Police) it appears there is a hole in the top of his ear. My estimate a .22, and not 223 like an AR. An AR, even with civilian ammo, would have taken that ear off. Seem genuine wound. I hope no one in the crowd was hurt,

[Linda ladeewolf]

101. I'm not an expert by any means,

But there are some really powerful pellet guns out there, if it would kill a squirrel. It would leave a hole in an ear. I don’t know if it would go through someone’s head though.

[Bengus81]

219. They say the shots came from 200-300 yards away. A 22?

[Bluethroughu]

143. I'm sorry fist pump screams bullshit!

Why would the secret service even allow this dude up off the ground until the threat was eliminated. There could be more than one shooter... looks like political theater.

Biden is winning, Thomas's Russian rendezvous is hot, epstein files with trump all over it hot, and people pissed he broke our Constitution. He wanted to become a Raygun martar. This needs heavy investigation, it stinks like trump.

[birdographer]

201. It's fake

Fist pump? A person in fear for his life, no matter if he is as stupid and demented as trump, huddles and crouches inside a circle of SS. He only puts up his fist when he knows he is safe and he is trying to make a point. The fist pump is very telling. I see posts where the shooter is dead. The shooter was hired, assured that trump would get him out of prison, and then betrayed. He is a loose end and mob folks like trump cannot leave loose ends. Just another patsy. Where have we seen this before?

[Bengus81]

223. Watch the SS get him up and then FREEZE while he fist pumps. They walk toward the steps and do it AGAIN

They would have held him down FLAT for minutes or rushed his azzzz out of there at light speed. They stopped TWICE to let Trump pump his fist.

FAKE BS people!!!

[Bluethroughu]

242. I told my husband the same thing!

[raccoon]

246. Great post.

[Bluethroughu]

241. Washington post reporter said that trump yelled fight fight fight.

As he raised his fist. What's he channeling Helter Skelter?

This needs to be investigated throughly.

[raccoon]

245. Exactly. This should be shouted from the rooftops!

Why would the secret service even allow this dude up off the ground until the threat was eliminated.

[pnwmom]

20. We can see on TV blood in his ear area. nt

[AKwannabe]

153. Movie blood???

Asking for a friend

[Blue Full Moon]

26. Probably from being tackled

[samnsara]

35. he grabs his ear before being tackled..

[Blue Full Moon]

49. He is a large target

I would think this is a PR stunt to grab headlines.

[samnsara]

30. on all sources.. plus you can see it

oh dear im gonna be glued to the news again!!

[Scrivener7]

4. My money is on this being staged by the convicted felon's campaign.

[peppertree]

10. Worked for his pal Bolsonaro in Brazil

That said, I hope he's ok.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

141. He needs to be ok

so he can be sentenced to Prison !

[Dulcinea]

188. He needs to be OK

...so he can lose in November fair & square, & go back to the obscurity he so richly deserves.

[Bengus81]

217. Look at the statement that JD Vance had out in about one minute. HATE filled rant aimed at Biden

Pretty soon they'll have a dossier on the shooter faster than Oswald.

[WinstonSmith4740]

11. My first thought, too.

This stinks...if it was a bullet that "grazed" him, it would have hit someone in that crowd. Let's just say I have my doubts.

[groundloop]

16. Agreed. An attempt on his life would be a hell of a way to focus media attention back on 45*

I don't support violence of any kind, but 45* is such an accomplished showman and con artist that I wouldn't rule out this being staged.

[LeftInTX]

21. Baloney...that would be a dangerous stunt.

Either the bullet grazed him or he's seriously injured. Just because he's fist bumping doesn't mean anything.

You can tell he "feels faint" as he is led off.

[Historic NY]

251. Remember he can't stand the sight of blood.....

so seeing his

[LeftInTX]

252. Everyone feels faint with the slightest head injury. I was pushed into a locker and needed six stitches.

I was 13 and suddenly realized why cartoon characters "saw stars". Blood automatically rushes to your feet. (Actually it rushes to your heart, but it feels like it's rushing to your feet).

Heck even doctors and nurses deal with this. (I've had to catch myself while watching a C-sect) It's a weird reflex.

[LiberalFighter]

85. My thought too. There should be several injured people.

And everyone just standing around.

[hadEnuf]

93. This isn't adding up.

Somebody starts blazing away at a target surrounded by thousands of people and he only gets grazed and nobody behind or beside him gets hit.

Did the bullets just dissappear?

[sarchasm]

118. and no one behind him even moved ... wtf?

you'd think if someone was shooting at the person in front of you that you'd at least duck or start running.

[hadEnuf]

134. As it's now turning out there were other casualties.

That's terrible

[Alwaysna]

157. I thought the same thing & then I remembered they are MAGA people.

[niyad]

159. anybody at that Bund rally was magat. ZERO sympathy!

[Slider19]

175. Where did you read no one else was hit?

Where did you read no one else was hit?

[WinstonSmith4740]

240. No one had been reported when I originally posted.

It was right after it happened, and no one had been reported as hit. It just seemed strange that he was grazed, and nobody behind him flinched, or appeared to have been hit.

[Born Free]

13. I agree,

Stages, and they will blame it on Biden

[NH Ethylene]

53. It came in handy for Ronald Reagan too.

[House of Roberts]

8. Maybe it's ketchup?

[orangecrush]

27. ...

[StoolPigeon]

52. Somebody fired a hamberder at him.

[MistakenLamb]

9. those were gunshots

how did a gunman get in to get close to shoot?

[groundloop]

19. More good guys with guns would have helped, I'm sure.

[jimfields33]

51. It would be shocking if it was a trump supporter.

[pnwmom]

22. Exactly. nt

[hamsterjill]

67. How do you know they were gun shots?

Seriously. Didn’t sound like gum shots to me unless it was a very small caliber.

Come on! The guy is a reality tv producer. Don’t tell me he wouldn’t stage something like this to get sympathy.

[jmowreader]

197. AP is reporting the shots were fired from outside the event

They are also reporting the gunman has been killed by Secret Service officers, so we'll eventually know what kind of gun was used to shoot him.

[Festivito]

14. No info on where shots came from or where bullets went. ABC has best views.

RWers are saying 9mm sound. Not trustable.
Video of entering vehicle with fist raised showed top of left ear bright red around curve of top.

[muriel_volestrangler]

33. Trump was looking to his right, and it's his right ear, so it seems it was from behind the stage

Some people at the top of the stand behind him were looking to their right, ie to our left as we see it from in front of the stage.

A Repub politician in the crowd says some people in the audience may have been hit:

Link to tweet

"Meuser says he heard 8-10 shots. Says it appears mulitple people in the crowd may have been hit and were down."

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

70. The shots were fired from behind the Gassy Troll? n/t

[niyad]

163. Snicker!!!

[Festivito]

172. Yes, Trump's right ear bleeding. Not left--my bad.

[ZonkerHarris]

15. It's an Official Act! . Immunity now!

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

236. Immunity Now

Insanity later

[Warpy]

17. Somebody sneaked in a couple of firecrackers?

I think there are metal detectors to get rid of any gun toters.

[Delphinus]

145. If true,

this could be the "big news to strike fear" ...

Link to tweet

/photo/1

[birdographer]

206. All staged

By a tv game host. Attention-getting. But he did want to be sure there would be people there to witness it. All hell breaks loose? How, unless he means a shooter in the crowd shooting blanks while he has a squib in his hand to apply to his ear? First, I don't buy this. But second, if true, dammit, 4" to the right...

This is trump putting on a show. He will be back out at a hate rally tomorrow or the next day, because he knows there is no real danger.

[Warpy]

218. Looks like it was some sicko with a gun

and that a spectator was shot dead and another seriously wounded.

[Bayard]

191. He doesn't want metal detectors at his events, remember?

[Katcat]

23. Staged

No doubt

[hamsterjill]

25. I totally agree.

Looked completely fake to me.

[TexasDem69]

42. The gunshots and crowd reaction looked fake? What about the blood?

[Blue Full Moon]

57. If any crowd

Would hear shots even from blanks they would be spooked.

[hamsterjill]

58. Trump looked fake

The blood can be a prop. I would not put anything past this asshole. He reacted way too fast. And then he fist bumps????

Sure, sure. He’s a real tough guy, right?

The crowd wouldn’t know it was fake.

[TexasDem69]

66. That's just nonsense

Trump is terrible but this “fake” shooting is whacky, crazy, and without any support. I can’t believe anyone on this website is pushing that story.

[hamsterjill]

69. Oh I'm really pushing that story, right? I replied to a post.

You think Trump is an honest person? That’s the part that’s nonsense.

[TexasDem69]

72. Trump being dishonest

Is completely different than wild conspiracy theories that he staged a shooting at his rally. The secret service didn’t seem to think it was staged, nor did the crowd. I don’t know who is or isn’t pushing this nonsense but it’s nonsense, and not worth discussing.

[hamsterjill]

88. Then stop discussing it.

Do you honestly have any sympathy for Trump? Because if you do, then I would question why.

He is a complete bully and coward. If he were really in danger, he would have pissed his pants. He wouldn’t get up and fist bump to the crowd.

As to the blood, I’ve bled more than that from a mosquito bite.

So stop replying to me. Let me have my opinion and you have yours. Because it seems there are plenty on DU right now who feel the same way that I do, or are you only reading MY posts?

[TexasDem69]

95. I'm responding to your response to mine

The idea that this was staged is nonsense. And embarrassed that anyone is taking it seriously. And if I’m wrong I’ll come back tomorrow and apologize

[hamsterjill]

162. You responded to me first in all of this.

And you’ve continued to respond. That’s what I mean.

Now, go and have yourself a great evening. It was nice visiting with you.

[TexasDem69]

167. Thanks, you too!

And I do mean that sincerely. Its ok to disagree here sometimes

[birdographer]

211. Just a quick thought

now that you two have made up. If a man is shot at during a (hate) rally, particularly supposedly from outside the rally locale, this man would be very wary of going back into an outdoor location for his rallies. Let's see how many days pass before Donny is back at the airport tarmac or the beach, or some other spot just like this one. If it was staged, as I believe it was, he has nothing to fear and he will be right back out in outside venues surrounded by trees or perhaps a book depository. Let's wait and see.

[hamsterjill]

225. I had the same thought.

The next few days will be telling.

And since I’m wishing everyone a good evening, let me wish you on, too!

[hamsterjill]

89. Then stop discussing it.

Do you honestly have any sympathy for Trump? Because if you do, then I would question why.

He is a complete bully and coward. If he were really in danger, he would have pissed his pants. He wouldn’t get up and fist bump to the crowd.

As to the blood, I’ve bled more than that from a mosquito bite.

So stop replying to me. Let me have my opinion and you have yours. Because it seems there are plenty on DU right now who feel the same way that I do, or are you only reading MY posts?

[ClaudetteCC]

107. I don't think it is 'fake' either

imagine it was for a second. The shooter will very very likely get caught and end up doing many years of prison time and would have to willingly do it for perhaps a sympathy bump for Trump. Whatever weapon was used was likely small with a short barrel and perhaps non metallic to be easily smuggled in. This would likely be hard to aim/target properly and would very much risk the life of the candidate the shooter would presumably be willing to risk his life for.

While there may be some 'false flag' events of someone holding up a rude sign in the background or something that the press would never investigate, has there ever been a confirmed false flag event with such risk and of such magnitude in all of recorded history?

[debm55]

137. Alleged shooter is allegedly shot,

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[niyad]

168. alleged shooter allegedly dead.

[debm55]

185. Thanks I 'll fix.

[niyad]

161. Movie blood? ketchup? cackle bladder? possibilities abound.

[bee_peaceful]

24. Ketchup

His favorite ploy.

[totodeinhere]

199. Ketchup? Did ketchup kill the bystander in the crowd?

Come on people. Comments like yours make us look silly.

[alarimer]

28. The last fucking thing we need

is for Trump to be a martyr.

They will play this up (whatever the actual story) as "liberals are out to get me, boo hoo."

[progressoid]

34. Oh you know they are already making t-shirts with that photo on it.

[Delphinus]

149. A Georgia

congress critter has already said the orders came from Biden.

[alarimer]

163. I fear for Biden

These cultist are nuts and now will be hellbent on revenge.

[The Grand Illuminist]

196. We are the targets.

They know not to get to the generals.

[raccoon]

248. Biden campaign should sue the bastard for defamation.

[Bengus81]

216. This is the Reichstag fire. Wonder where they would have gotten that idea??

FAKE as hell. I think this was a rigged up shooting that went totally wrong. No one was supposed to be hit,just the stage or somewhere else.

[wnylib]

233. Potential exists for a MAGA nut to go after Biden as retaliation.

[alarimer]

29. Dupe

[BooScout]

31. Well hell.....

...everyone in the audience was probably armed.

[orangecrush]

32. I was hoping

It was a stroke

[NJCher]

36. mussed his hair

Watch as they shove him in the vehicle: Huge, I mean huge, baldspot. His hair is standing up all around it.

[JohnSJ]

39. gunshots? How do they know? Could it be fireworks? No one knows.

[TexasDem69]

47. Christ, he clearly was shot

What’s this “staged” nonsense?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

120. Tens of thousands of lies. traitortrump has earned 0 benefit of the doubt.

[TexasDem69]

121. This post is a little late

Multiple stories now that the shooter is dead, as is someone in the crowd.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

122. Still awaiting proof.

[TexasDem69]

125. Was the interview with the blood covered doctor who treated the attendee

And said his brain was exposed not proof enough?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

127. We will know in a week or so.

[TexasDem69]

131. We know now. If you don't trust the video or the doctor or the dead

How about the statement from President Biden?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

133. President Biden didn't give details of what happened, only his wishes. Things will be sorted out.

[niyad]

176. Clearly, it LOOKS like he was injured. Is it real? Is it fake? Because, as

anybody who reads mysteries or political thrillers knows, the scenario is not hard to fake. And he has excellent reason to do just that!!!

Concerning this TRAITOR**, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING I would put past him. Was it real? Was it fake? We may never know.

[TexasDem69]

209. We know now that it was real

Two people are dead. Trump was injured.

[niyad]

214. As I said.

[mysteryowl]

40. Was it staged?

He would stage something like this, I have no doubt.

[The Grand Illuminist]

193. Don't Sandy Hook this please.

nt

[mysteryowl]

221. but look at who we are dealing with.

Not the same at all!

[The Grand Illuminist]

228. I know that.

Yet there are things we should never resort at all. If people think this is false flag fakery, then they would be no different than Alex Jones. We don't need those on this side. It really doesn't matter who were dealing with.

[ZonkerHarris]

41. Damn

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[Kablooie]

43. Looks like he was shot on the ear but he's fine.

It doesn't look like anyone else was hit which is very strange.

[mahina]

84. It looks nothing like a gunshot wound though

[Kablooie]

129. I was wrong. I just read that one audience member was injured and one died.

[BrightKnight]

243. I wonder if his ear was numb before.

It also sounds like a dog whistle. It is very difficult to take this at face value.

[totodeinhere]

44. Wow. This is not helpful.

His supporters will undoubtedly try to blame the left for this.

[maxsolomon]

50. You think?

We're entering a massive shit show.

[PatrickforB]

45. Looks like he got grazed. Sadly, the GOP has been courting violence since Trump

started off in 2016. This, the GOP penchant for refusing to even consider any gun control, coupled with the Wall Street and billionaire funded right-wing propaganda organs that have driven wedges and built up a fever pitch of hate and polarization, have all created a very dangerous campaign environment for both Trump and Biden. This is pretty bad.

I cannot morally wish ill on Trump.

The truth is Biden can beat him fair and square. This just adds an element of chaos and danger into an already fraught election.

This is very sad for all of us.

[Festivito]

46. This is bad for our democracy. I hope they find who did this. Closed crowd.

His own followers could be very angry with him when they start getting the truth.

Where did those bullets go. That cannot be that hard to figure out.

I don't care which hospital, nor helicopter rides,. Find that shooter.

[AverageOldGuy]

48. How convenient.

Hours before the start of the Republican National Convention.

I'm not saying it was staged . . . just sayin' . . .

[CountAllVotes]

54. ...

Link to tweet

[BaronChocula]

55. OH NO!

Richard Simmons died?

[Skittles]

60. AND Dr. Ruth

[TexasBushwhacker]

56. I want to hear from the people around the "shooter"

I wouldn't trust TFG to pass me the salt at a dinner table.

Could he have had a tiny squib in his hand and slap it to his ear when he heard the gunfire? Find the shooter. Find the gun. Find the bullet.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

59. Wish whatever nutbag did it would

Have been more careful . Looks like his ear got clipped .Oh well.

All I could think is trump does not deserve that kind of protection or care especially after Nancy Pelosi ‘s husband was beaten with a hammer by a piece of magat trash looking for Nancy that is real danger.


I think it was a sympathy ploy and maybe a justification ploy to stir up the base.
Watch for more and more vicious hate speech and threats aimed at liberals and democrats.

It also could be friendly fire.
Magats are known to pack weapons and some have no sense when it comes to firearm safety.

Hopefully magats won’t attack anybody.

Be safe my fellow dems.

[liberalmuse]

61. It will miraculously heal.

It’s all in The Bible. /s

[Wingus Dingus]

62. What fresh hell is this. I was taking a break from the news for a while and

my husband told me this happened. Jesus.

[LeftInTX]

79. Yeah, I did word puzzles and came back to the slow day at DU...

[Wingus Dingus]

83. Yup, cleaning the bathroom, filling bird feeder, bumping around happily.

Oh well.

[birdographer]

247. Kind of like where we were when JFK was shot...

Except not nearly as tragic. Me, I was baking a challah loaf. (My first time and it came out great!)

[dflprincess]

63. Weird how they left him so exposed. Nt

[I_UndergroundPanther]

74. I really think it was staged

Nobody hit in the audience yet 8 or nine shots how could 9 shots be fired in the middle of a crowd and hit nobody?

It stinks to high heaven to me.

[totodeinhere]

86. It wouldn't surprise me if his Russian buddies are behind this.

They probably figure that a staged attack will cause a big bump in the polls for him.

[Blue Full Moon]

64. Maybe

One of those Jan 6th vets found out about Project 2025 taking benefits away.

[Betty Boom]

65. Let the martyr narrative begin

Here we go

[liberal N proud]

73. Exactly what's coming

This clown plays victim and this will be off the charts

[11 Bravo]

68. Cui bono

[Blue Owl]

71. Looks like something from a WWF event

[LeftInTX]

75. DU crashing/freezing up...too much traffic...

[valleyrogue]

76. I don't want anything to ever happen to him or any other candidate or political figure.

I experienced enough of that in my youth in 1963, 1968, 1972, 1976, and 1981. No more, please.

Trump is our best bet to retain the White House, which we will win. Nothing like this should ever happen to him.

[Intractable]

80. When you take a shot at the king, you dare not miss.

[Deminpenn]

82. Butler Eagle seems to have the most complete reporting

with lots of pics:

https://www.butlereagle.com/20240713/donald-trump-whisked-off-stage-in-pennsylvania-after-apparent-gunshots-rang-through-the-crowd/

[turbinetree]

87. He really is bald............the comb over could not hide that baldness from the hat falling off

while being whisked off............

[liberal N proud]

90. Thoughts and prayers

This is a pro gun group who offers thoughts and prayers for every shooting, so that’s all I have for this.

[Blue Full Moon]

94. 100%

[Talitha]

92. See? If he was already in prison this never would have happened.

[iluvtennis]

96. I call BS. If you have just been shot at and are bleeding, you wouldn't be raising a victory fist.

You’d have your butt down on the ground to protect yourself from further injury.

[Bengus81]

213. People have never mentioned the fake blood in a capsule that pro wrestlers use

Guess who hung around with pro wrestlers and WWE or whatever it is??

[mahina]

97. He never forgot where the cameras were

And used them
Ugh

[Comfortably_Numb]

98. So pendeho 45 got shot, wow. Now watch this drive.

I’m not heartless, I’m saddened by the actually important news of the day, that Richard Simmons and Dr. Ruth died. I hear that these come in threes, so maybe douche poopy pants will get a secondary infection. Fingers crossed when it comes to shit bird 45.

[BluesRunTheGame]

99. I like candidates that don't get shot...

…at their own nazi rallies.

[mwb970]

100. You know what, I'm not going to say what I'm thinking right now.

You know what it is.

[totodeinhere]

102. CBS is reporting that a bystander was hit in the head

And part of his brain was on the ground. Also the shooter has been neutralized according to the Secret Service.

[cstanleytech]

103. Fake snow job by Republican operatives perhaps?

[catbyte]

104. Christ on a cracker. Now his victim complex and paranoia will be dialed up to 1000.

[Festivito]

105. Bystanders hurt, one dead, shooter dead. ABC

[SpankMe]

108. If an anti-Trump progressive did it...

...YOU'RE NOT HELPING.

Absolute transparency from the Secret Service is called-for from this point forward. If they learn anything important and withhold it (like they did with the texts from Jan.11) then they'll lose even more trust from the people.

[TexasBushwhacker]

109. Rubio said "God protected President Trump"

To bad God didn't protect the innocent bystander.

[Deminpenn]

117. Or, alternately, sent him a message to change his evil ways

nt

[prodigitalson]

112. Rev 13:3

And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast.

[OverBurn]

113. Son of a bitch, someone had their chance and hit his damn ear. He's a lucky bastard. If it was not staged.

[AdamGG]

114. Video looks fake as hell

How can he get slightly grazed on the ear to cause small amount of blood, but no damage and no bullets hit anything around him? This looks like a PR stunt on the Saturday night leading up to his CON vention.

[totodeinhere]

130. Oh come on. A bystander was killed and you think

it was fake?

[AdamGG]

136. I posted it before I read about the bystander

should have taken this down or waited to post until I'd read more. I started by watching the video clip.

Still not sure how no one on frame in the video behind him showed a reaction if bullets were whizzing by, but now that I see more info. it must have been real.

I definitely think that Trump would be willing to stage something like this and the timing and the image looked like it.

[totodeinhere]

192. And I apologize for coming off as snarky.

I am emotional about this because obviously this is not helpful. Whatever the facts may turn out to be the right wing will use this against us even though we know that the main source of political violence now in this country comes form the right.

[AdamGG]

220. No problem, it is emotional - the stakes couldn't be higher

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I already have seen the right rallying around this online - saying that it makes Dump heroic.

This image, with streaks of blood on his face, fist raised, positioned beneath an American flag, end of the day on Saturday when his convention starts on Monday - is so perfect for his propaganda that it's hard not to question how naturally occurring it is. I don't doubt Trump's ability to understand the performative moment he was in and play to the cameras when it did happen.

[ZZenith]

181. Both things can be true.

A bystander was killed and it was staged.

[turbinetree]

115. The Guardian is reporting that someone in the audience is dead and so is the shooter..........

Shooter and attendee killed in incident at Trump rally
Butler county district attorney Richard A Goldinger has confirmed to the Associated Press that the shooter at Donald Trump’s rally, as well as an attendee, are dead.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/jul/13/trump-rally-gun-shots-pennsylvania-latest-updates

[Festivito]

116. ABC, someone, 3-4 small caliber, several louder shots-- SS at shooter?

[SpankMe]

119. Also, this probably delivers the election to this asshole

The pictures of him thrusting his fist up and the bleeding ear are psy-op-approved, wounded martyr material. This will dominate headlines and Trump's public outreach until the election.

I hope we learn something about the shooter soon. If it's a progressive Trump-hater, we're finished. Our only hope is for this to have been a false-flag op by a Trumper.

I also question how the Secret Service couldn't prevent this. They have metal detectors and all sorts of security protocols in place. Between this and the Jan 6 shit, I don't think I have a lot of faith in them to protect the president or candidates any more.

Biden should make a public statement ASAP.

Also, Biden's office should authorize SS protection for Kennedy ASAP. They've denied it up to now. But, the ante has been upped and we should be at ThreatCon Charlie - at least - for candidates.

[EX500rider]

195. "They have metal detectors and all sorts of security"

BBC reporting shot came from outside perimeter, 200 yards or so

Our US news partner, CBS, is quoting two law enforcement sources who say the attacker was armed with a rifle and stood outside a cordoned-off area at the rally, about 200 yards (182m) from Trump.

The officials say the suspect was stood on an "elevated structure".

They were killed by a member of the US Secret Service counter-assault team, CBS reports

[DallasNE]

124. When I Saw Breaking News

I posted the following on Facebook.

"This is not good. I condemn in the strongest words the actions of this idiot or idiots who attempted this. It also shows that there are serious consequences when the pot (of emotions) is stirred endlessly. It reminds me of the shooting of George Wallace back in 1968, when his rhetoric was also hot and somebody took things into their own hands."

Now is a time for calmness but I doubt that Trump will permit that. Not when his first reaction was closed-fist defiance. Now to see how MSM covers this.

[John1956PA]

177. *1972* n/t

[DallasNE]

208. Thanks, I should Have Looked It Up

From memory, I thought it was shortly after a firey Wallace speech in Omaha stirred up a small riot in May 1968. That was my last year in the National Guard and we were activated to back up the police. We ended up not deploying, unlike our July 4th weekend riots 2 years earlier when we did deploy. My date error does not impact the rest of my message.

[John1956PA]

222. Nixon was in the White House. He reportedly made calls to try to get Democratic flyers . . .

. . . planted in Arthur Bremer's apartment to suggest that fellow Democrats were behind the assassination attempt.

[Comfortably_Numb]

132. So was this a good guy with a gun or a bad guy with a gun. At a magat festival I don't know how you tell which is which

[John1956PA]

182. Something hit Trump's right ear. He abruptly reached for his ear and stopped his speech. n/t

[Lulu KC]

186. Yes, I saw that in the video and may have to remove this post if it is in error

If I can just remember which newspaper said it--looking.

[lonely bird]

128. This is the last fucking thing we need

I don’t care what the shooter believed or who he was.

This does nothing but exacerbate the fucking mess we have in this country.

[hadEnuf]

142. Yes it is a very bad thing.

But I also can't say that I am astonishingly surprised. Just look what he wants to do to this country and the people in it.

He's a fucking monster.

[Festivito]

135. Biden and Obama each pray Trump well wishes. Biden to make press remarks. Oh, on now!

[Festivito]

140. Biden says EVERYONE should condemn this. Hopes to s peak with Donald.

[The Grand Illuminist]

198. Not good.

He should neither condone nor condemn.

[Polybius]

259. Huh?

Biden shouldn't condemn this?

[Bengus81]

226. I heard the Biden Campaign has pulled ALL ads or trying to get them shut down. See how all this works everyone??

[JoseBalow]

138. The insufferable whining will be off the charts

[japple]

144. Well, the good thing is maybe the press will stop talking about Joe Biden's bad debate

performance and how he needs to exit the race.

[JoseBalow]

151. I'd like to think so

But I wouldn't bet money on it

[Sky Jewels]

139. Trump definitely filled up his diaper.

[tonekat]

147. Disappointed in MSNBC

"This will bring everyone together!"

Bullshit. He's reaping what he sows. He's a danger to our hope of a continuing democracy. It won't do diddley for any "unity", we passed that stop years ago.

[niyad]

148. As Church Lady would say, "How conveeeeeeeeeenient!!!"

[eggplant]

150. Can we stop with the glee already?

There was at least one bystander killed there, and the shooter is dead. This isn't supposed to be FreeRepublic after all.

[AntiFascist]

152. MAGA brought this on themselves...

with "2nd Amendment" gun rights, setting the stage for Trump as an imperial president that can do what he wants with Seal Team 6...
The situation will not get any better with Trump raising his fist urging people to Fight!

[Festivito]

154. ABC Shooter on top of adjacent building, outside venue, not put through entry check.

Richard Goldinger source by voice

[Lulu KC]

200. OK, hello, adjacent building, close enough to shoot, and it wasn't under protection by Secret Service et al?

This surprises me a lot and makes me worry about Joe even more. I thought they covered this potential scenario. Does JFK ring a bell? Bizarre.

[Festivito]

237. They probably want SS agents that support the guy they protect.

Imagine the IQ of agents wanting to protect Donald versus the ones protecting Joe.

[Bengus81]

230. Those would be the first thing the SS would check prior to his arrival...so how did that shooter get to set up there?

They had mags checking for guns on the crowd going in.

[hamsterjill]

231. Foreign country?

Many have a lot to lose if Trump takes the US about of NATO.

Nah…a hired assassin wouldn’t have missed the target.

[Festivito]

238. Naw. Too dangerous over only the prospect he takes office.

Too early also. A death could end up with someone who would attempt to pass all Trump's stuff, including dismissing NATO, with a unified patriotic ferver behind them.

Russia already spent too much on advancing Trump to kill him. China, Iran, ... need Russia.

R's have the best reason to get rid of Trump this way. He's going to lose and he won't release power.

You're right, a professional assassin would not have missed in part for not using a small caliber shot that would cut an ear, it would take out a lot more than an ear. I think someone goaded a well practiced amateur. The real losers if Rs lose are the rich and the military intelligence industrial complex.

[BigDemVoter]

156. Someone on MSNBC said. . .

"Something has just shifted in American politics."

That might be one of most stunningly stupid things I have ever heard on the news.

[Traurigkeit]

158. anything to get out of the heat

what a drama Queen

[CoopersDad]

165. "Bleeding from the ear" was not happening, his outer ear looks grazed.

He's lucky that it was minimal.

We usually think of "bleeding from the ear" as caused by internal damage.

He'll be back acting like a superhero super-asshole.

[Mawspam2]

166. Quick, someone put out an APB for Ron DeSantis!

Meatball Ron has his own personal praetorian guard. Means, motive. Just sayin.

[SupportSanity]

174. I'm waiting for them to say how many names the (now dead) shooter had.

three names?
like James Earl Ray
Lee Harvey Oswald

Then we can really discuss whether this was staged or not.

[Hikerchick57]

178. I bet he 💩 pants...

[jcboss]

179. Staged

It was all staged. If you watch the video, you will see that trumps right hand appears to squeeze or push a button because he flinched before the charge.
that was attached to his ear like a stunt man uses for a bloody scene

[Festivito]

187. Doubtful. The trolls would have been out minutes faster.

[Festivito]

184. CBS There is a motionless person laying on top of a tan building. American Glass....

Looks al little gruesome. Kind of looked like light tan camouflage. I guess he is still there. Guy on street notified local law before the shots.

[TexasBushwhacker]

190. I hope he's identified quickly n/t

[Festivito]

207. To be sure they've blacked out his social media and are interviewing his friends and family.

Who sold him his gun, who goaded him, .who helped him, ...
His body still lies on the building.
I'd bet his car told them who he was.

[TexasBushwhacker]

210. I read that people at the rally saw him climbing to the roof

How was access to that roof not secured? Trump isn't just a candidate. He's a former POTUS and they get Secret Service protection for life. There's something about this that just doesn't pass the smell test.

[Festivito]

224. Bad planning. The investigation structure is being formed as just reported on ABC.

A guy outside the venue notified local law enforcement. How it went from there is not reported.
We D's have more to lose from this shooting. If it is not a lone wolf act, I'd look at R's wanting to replace Trump.
They know they have been using Quinnipiac polls and avoiding PEW polls.

[Festivito]

189. CBS 8 shots from an AR style rifle. Shooter killed by Secret Service.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

194. I'll bet an internet nickel

that this can be traced back to him. It's rigged, so to speak........

[AKwannabe]

260. An internet nickel...

😜 hehe

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

203. Secret Service statement

Link to tweet

[TexanIndian2]

204. Unbelievable rhetoric, hatred, and conspiracy theories floating around in this thread

Please stop. Right now is not the time to think this was staged or it was anything other than violence against a candidate. No amount of hatred towards an individual justifies such violence. Peace!!

[Festivito]

232. Trolls of all stripes show up at times like this. Some just exaggerate what is happening.

[mahina]

239. Welcome.

[Traurigkeit]

250. Disappointed

[Bayard]

205. Smells fake to me.....

There's no way that trump would immediately jump up from an assassination attempt, and be doing the fist pumping thing. How would he know there wasn't more to come? His diaper would be overflowing, and he'd cowering behind the podium.

Maybe that's what he's been doing lately--rehearsing. He'll be the headline now, ad nauseam. And Biden will be blamed.

I am sorry that one other person was killed, and more injured. Dying for Donald..... What an epithet.

[Festivito]

212. Not by Donald. Too risky. Got up with SS bodies all around him.

There we saw the true Donald saying "Fight! Fight! Fight!"
He still needs the violence . Jan 6 did not have enough.
'

[DSandra]

215. Today reminds me of this...

&t=31s

[bamagal62]

227. The whole thing

Makes me want vomit.

[The Mouth]

253. The shooter got to within a 'few hundred feet' per CNN.

WTF? I know they are going to give Trump the 'B' team, but letting someone with a full sized rifle get within a hundred ot two hundred meters of someone they are trying to protect?

Head need to roll in that department. The folks by him did their job, but whoever let the shooter get that close needs a different line of work.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/politics/trump-rally-shooting-distance/index.html

[TheDemsshouldhireme]

254. People saying it was fake or staged

makes me realize conspiracy nuts are not confined to one party. And to see replies like that get recommended makes it even worse. There are photographs of the shooter with a rifle on the roof while he's alive and after the secret service took him out. It happened, it was real. Some people need to "wonder" less and think more. Thank god, Daily Kos has a no conspiracy theory policy, unlike here. I am a democrat, I don't tolerate conspiracy theories and propaganda well. Was the gentleman who died a crisis actor? Really some people sound as nutty as Alex Jones. C'mon man, were better than this.

[Skittles]

256. perhaps because Trump himself is such a fucking fake

it's natural for people to question everything about him

[Sneederbunk]

255. Good whisking.

[Deminpenn]

258. Reported on local new just now that

a local cop actually climbed up to the roof where Crooks was, but when Crooks turned and pointed his gun at the cop, the cop let go of the ladder and fell. I guess he valued his own life more than Trump's or any of the other rally attendees. During this news segment, this cop's boss or colleague told the reporter the cop did the right thing not confronting Crooks.