Secret Service spotted shooter on roof 20 minutes before gunfire erupted at Trump rally

[suegeo]

Source: ABC News 6

BETHEL PARK, Pennsylvania -- Law enforcement officials investigating the assassination attempt on Donald Trump told lawmakers today in an unclassified briefing that 20 minutes passed between the time U.S. Secret Service snipers first spotted Crooks on the roof and the time shots were fired at the former president, according to several law enforcement officials and lawmakers briefed on the matter.

According to this source, briefers said the snipers spotted him on the roof at 5:52. The shooting happened at 6:12, 20 minutes later.

The briefing was conducted by the FBI Director, his Deputy Director and the head of the USSS.

Read more: https://6abc.com/post/trump-assassination-attempt-fbi-examines-thomas-matthew-crooks/15064141/

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20 minutes on the roof of a building they identified as a threat. Why didn't the secret service do something?

They could delay the pow-wow and not let Putin's puppet on the stage until they figured out what the fu*k was going on?

[msongs]

1. is it illegal to be on a roof there? PA is open carry so having a rifle is no violation IMO nt

[LisaL]

5. It might be open carry, but if the dude is sitting on the roof with a rifle,

isn't there something to investigate?

[msongs]

12. maybe trespassing? nt

[reACTIONary]

19. They probably didn't know he had a rifle...

.... he could have been a spectator trying to get a better view. But rifle or no, someone should have confronted him.

[Omnipresent]

51. Apparently not the SS...

Is anyone going to be held accountable? I mean if convict was knocked off, the Democratic Party’s easiest opponent to defeat in November, would be dead.

[paleotn]

13. Doesn't matter

Given the situation, SS and local law enforcement had way more than enough probable cause to at least confront him and ask him what the fuck he's doing.

[Straw Man]

34. Yes, PA is open carry. That isn't relevant here.

Notice that they didn't let anyone carry a gun into the rally. The Secret Service can set the perimeter anywhere they like.

An unscreened person in an unsecured location with a clear line of sight to the primary is a big Bozo No-No for the Secret Service. Heads are sure to roll over this.

[bluestarone]

2. WTH?

I mean this smells to high heaven.

[yourout]

3. Indeed...

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[LisaL]

4. What on Earth?

They saw him on the roof and did nothing?

[brush]

6. My God. They didn't do anything about it until after he he started shooting.

Very suspicious. 20 minutes and nothing done.

And I'm not a trump supporter. Revamp the whole agency asap. They have to protest Joe and Kamala too.

[yourout]

7. The real question is...Did Trump know that?

If he did then something really stinks about it.

[KS Toronado]

23. That's the real question.

that and why didn't our sniper shoot him? Was our SS sniper hoping TSF would get killed for the good
of the country so he allowed him a couple shots? Or was he hired by someone (TSF) to take a couple
shots thinking such a scenario would help TSF's reelection chances.

[RobinA]

48. So, You Are OK

with the SS shooting people who look suspicious outside a Trump rally? I'm not.

[KS Toronado]

54. Never said that, but walk a mile in a Secret Service person's shoes

They had reports of a person on a roof with an AR15, the SS sniper was looking directly at him watching
his movements with a powerful scope, sooner or later the SS sniper will notice the shooter preparing
to shoot, things such as turning his ball cap 180, taking his sunglasses off, removing the protective end
caps from his scope, switching the AR15 from "safe to fire", now looking through the scope and
adjusting the scope's focus until his target is crystal clear, now his hand goes down to the pistol grip
and the trigger.

At this point in time would the Secret Service's threat manual consider this a "suspicious" person or
a "clear & present danger" to the life of an X-President? Well, let's have a rebuttal.

[Polybius]

46. I doubt he could see him from where he was speaking

Is his eyesight 20/20 at his age? Even if it it, he might have thought he was a SS agent.

[dutch777]

8. Astonishing! And they didn't send an officer over to have a chat? I am scared for Joe and Kamala

[RockRaven]

9. Talk about conspiracy theory fodder. Yeesh!

[Harker]

10. Perhaps they took him for a good guy with a gun. n/t

[ananda]

11. Wow.

This smells to high heaven.

Trump shouldn't have been allowed anywere near
that podium or even outside.

Sheesh!

[Skittles]

18. oh fuck HIM

what about all those people?

[ananda]

20. OK, yes, but Trump is their first priority.

...

[Katcat]

33. Well

They were there to worship HIM

[duncang]

14. Question is

Did he have his gun then? If not they may have thought he was just trying to get a better view. He was walking all around prior to getting on the roof.

I’m going to wait until more is released.

[underpants]

15. He clearly wasn't LEO. No gear at all. Gray clothes.

[suegeo]

16. Briefing was done by Director of the FBI (Wray)

and this guy, the deputy director Paul Abbate

https://www.fbi.gov/about/leadership-and-structure/abbate

Abbate's history is, well, interesting.
Cybersecurity.
Member of SWAT team
counter-terrorism
Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya

[Skittles]

17. the plot thickens

they didn't even behave like normal people, let alone SS

[Irish_Dem]

21. Maybe this is when they sent LE up to the ladder to look at the guy.

The guy starts shooting.

[LudwigPastorius]

22. Oof..

It's beginning to look like Director Cheatle will have a tough time continuing in the job if this is true.

Rightfully or wrongfully, the fallout will be intense, and it will fall upon her.

[nowforever]

24. Deep red Trump zone

I think the SS was thinking this guy was probably a Trump supporter who wanted a better view. I believe when they saw the gun they assumed he was a civilian who was helping out the sniper team. Let's not forget during the Jan. 6 rally Trump made it clear he had no concerns about his people being armed and I think that logic was active in the minds of the SS crew this time.

[colorado_ufo]

28. Trump wasn't even wearing a bullet proof vest.

I think the shooter figured he would be, which is why he went for the more difficult head shot.

[intheflow]

45. I read a local cop climbed the ladder

and asked what was going on. Shooter turned his gun on the cop who beat a quick retreat. So the shot may have missed because the shooter felt rushed.

[DickKessler]

39. Seems like white men with guns often aren't seen as particularly threatening.

[suegeo]

25. Kick

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This is fishy af & I don’t want to let them to drown this story out.
Something is rotten in Denmark.

[ImNotGod]

26. Maybe they thought thank God, a new job assignment soon. nt

[flying_wahini]

27. The shooter had to bring along a ladder as this roof area apparently had no ground access.

The building may have been written off as a risk because it wasn’t accessible.
So he plants the gun early. There’s a 3’ wall around the roof.
Maybe the SS figured he was a fan.

[womanofthehills]

29. Police were surveying from the 2nd floor of the building while shooter was on roof

Unbelievable!! And head of SS tells press, the roof was too sloped so it was too dangerous to put SS on roof???? It wasn’t even a big slope- under a ft.

[suegeo]

30. KICK WTF

[Mysterian]

31. A severe and inexcusable failure

Heads should roll.

[suegeo]

32. Kick

[ailsagirl]

35. Wha-a-t????

[Skittles]

41. yes, THEY KNEW HE WAS THERE

who else knew he was there? WTF

[Crowman2009]

36. They figured since he was white, that he must've been a good guy with a gun.

[DickKessler]

40. Honestly you're not wrong IMO.

[not fooled]

52. Yep

Crazy.

[Scrivener7]

37. Nothing to see here folks! That's not weird at all! And if you say it is, you'll

be accused of spreading conspiracies.

This is all totally normal!

[IronLionZion]

38. Were they thinking he was a responsible law abiding gun owner

until he started shooting?

[markodochartaigh]

42. I grew up in Amarillo Texas a half century ago.

I remember kids in school debating if they could "swing their fists until they touched your nose, why couldn't they shoot you and have it be your responsibility to stop the bullet?" Yes, that area is about 80% maga now.

[womanofthehills]

43. No - he was on their radar as a suspicious person

As he was walking around with a scope. They lost him probably when he went back to his car. Some reports say he must have been hiding in building

[jaxexpat]

44. I figure these SS guys have had plenty of experience with Trump crowds.

When you scan over a Trumpist crowd I'm sure your highly trained security sense goes on high alert just looking at that sea of whackos. I mean, really, how unusual would it be to see a young man with a rifle on the periphery of such a crowd as that bunch of gun-totin' halfwits?

"On the roof?", you ask. Well, the unusual thing about that was that he didn't fall off and break his fool neck. The gun was a given and he may not have been the only roof denizen with a rifle present that day. It helps to think outside the box with this bunch. Hell, forget the box, this looney bin's been open for a while already, and the can of plague of worms is out.

[mucholderthandirt]

47. So....

LIHOP?

Weren't they told some guy had climbed up to the roof, and that he had a weapon?

Why were the SS two levels down on the platform? Who were the uniformed folks there, one of who pointed his weapon towards the area Trump was being manhandled to safety? Who were the guys in black, who seemed to only be looking into the crowd, if people knew the shooter/potential shooter, was on that roof?

[RobinA]

49. Maybe They

didn't want to shoot until the guy actually did something wrong? If I'm not mistaken, there's been a steady drumbeat over the past YEARS of stories about cops shooting people they arguably shouldn't have and being ostracized all over the media and back. I doubt any LEO wants to be the next THAT LEO. For a cop these days you'd have to be insane or stone stupid to shoot anyone you weren't 200% sure was a serious and imminent threat to someone. Here's a guy with a gun outside a Trump rally in western PA. Zzzzzzzzz.

[NowsTheTime]

50. Has anyone asked this question? Were there any drones being used by Secret Service or law enforcement? If not,why not?

[Skvngr]

53. Perhaps?

They are just sick and tired of trying to defend a fraud, a pedophile, a rapist, a convicted felon, and did nothing intentionally.