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ucrdem

(15,720 posts)
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 08:57 PM Jul 2024

Donald Trump's Chances of Winning Election Are Declining

Source: Newsweek

Updated Jul 17, 2024 at 3:17 PM EDT

Donald Trump's chances of winning the November 2024 presidential election are declining, according to a new aggregation of polls.

FiveThirtyEight's poll tracker, which was originally published on July 8 and updated on July 16, shows Joe Biden with a 53 percent chance of winning the election, while Trump has a 46 percent chance.

According to the tracker, Biden is favored to win in 534 out of 1,000 of FiveThirtyEight's simulations of how the election could go, while Trump wins in 462. The poll also shows that the simulations indicate that Biden is on track for a three-point win.

(snip)

It comes after a Presidential Voting Intention poll of 3,601 swing state voters by Redfield & Wilton Strategies, found that Trump's margins over President Joe Biden have narrowed since June in two key swing states: Florida and North Carolina.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-polling-data-five-thirty-eight-1926226



"simulations indicate that Biden is on track for a three-point win."
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Donald Trump's Chances of Winning Election Are Declining (Original Post) ucrdem Jul 2024 OP
So, according to some, it's time to kick Biden off the ticket. sinkingfeeling Jul 2024 #1
They scream the loudest before they're squelched out. Fearless Jul 2024 #3
Morning Joe spewing the shit non stop this morning Bengus81 Jul 2024 #21
The media wants that horse race to breathlessly report on kimbutgar Jul 2024 #2
I wish it was just ratings ucrdem Jul 2024 #4
And if anyone listens to the convicted felon he sounds like an insane deranged man with low mental capacity kimbutgar Jul 2024 #6
Idiot son speaking now at the convention ucrdem Jul 2024 #8
And at the same time BigDemVoter Jul 2024 #11
That is a concern Tweedy Jul 2024 #13
Well, here at least is some GOOD news! Ligyron Jul 2024 #5
Rachel Maddow last night said in effect the reason Vance was picked valleyrogue Jul 2024 #29
Register voters and GOTV! ZonkerHarris Jul 2024 #7
You can get whiplash reading about whether or not Florida is competitive. (n/t) thesquanderer Jul 2024 #9
Just sent a reply to an Adam Shiff funding request AZ8theist Jul 2024 #10
We need more of this! Bayard Jul 2024 #12
Good news Johnny2X2X Jul 2024 #14
That's been my feeling as well.. We know it's a maga/russia based coordinated effort Chakaconcarne Jul 2024 #19
Kkk rrr mahina Jul 2024 #15
K & R SunSeeker Jul 2024 #16
So it is a tie as Democrats have to always be 3 points ahead applegrove Jul 2024 #17
People need to moniss Jul 2024 #18
We have no widespread proof this is happening, but plenty of discussion around here as if it is... Chakaconcarne Jul 2024 #20
But, Biden is old! mucholderthandirt Jul 2024 #22
And people are returning to the very valid belief that tRUMP would be a living, waking disaster to walk the SWBTATTReg Jul 2024 #23
I don't see a video. we can do it Jul 2024 #24
Good ananda Jul 2024 #25
now that's some good news and good press. I think I'm just gonna leave it at that. somaticexperiencing Jul 2024 #26
Three points isn't enough to overcome orthoclad Jul 2024 #27
I totally believe it. I think as long as Joe Biden is on the top of the ticket, Democrats will win valleyrogue Jul 2024 #28

Bengus81

(9,698 posts)
21. Morning Joe spewing the shit non stop this morning
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 08:46 AM
Jul 2024

Hey Joe,your back on the air as long as you do this.........

I like their "poll" they found that according to Dem voters they want Biden out. LOL..they posted it and had it BACKWARDS showing a majority wanted Biden to stay.

Oppppsssss...quick get that changed!!

kimbutgar

(26,637 posts)
2. The media wants that horse race to breathlessly report on
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 09:02 PM
Jul 2024

I’m not giving them ratings until the election is over and if convicted felon wins ( god forbid) msnbc and cnn will be gone by April 2025.

I do believe there are more of us who against the convicted felon. But the media want those views and clicks and will keep pushing him down our throats 🤮

ucrdem

(15,720 posts)
4. I wish it was just ratings
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 09:07 PM
Jul 2024

But I think they're trying to get their felon elected by just making up stuff up, like the NYT June 18 editorial claiming Biden was showing mental incapacity.

kimbutgar

(26,637 posts)
6. And if anyone listens to the convicted felon he sounds like an insane deranged man with low mental capacity
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 09:14 PM
Jul 2024

Whenever I can stand listening to the convicted felon I’m constantly going WTF did he say and it sounds crazy!

ucrdem

(15,720 posts)
8. Idiot son speaking now at the convention
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 09:24 PM
Jul 2024

About the only factually accurate statement he's managed to squeeze out is that his sainted father got himself shot.

The rest? unspeakable stupidity ... "they want to put you in jail for making a meal" (speaking of women under Democrats)

It just gets worse ...

BigDemVoter

(4,672 posts)
11. And at the same time
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 10:54 PM
Jul 2024

refusing to report on the most unfit felon to ever run for president in American history. It's just unfathomable. A criminal convicted of 34 felonies, impeached twice, a disastrous 4-years in office to include a million dead of Covid because of his incompetence, someone who cannot speak in full sentences and emits word salad every time he opens his pie hole. . . It is more than disgusting. I was watching a clip earlier of just how biased the media is. It included Jake Tapper simply responding with, "Uh huh" while one of the Trump sons (not sure which one) spewed bullshit about how " 'they' tired to kill my dad." One would THINK the Tapper idiot would have asked, "WHO tried?" Likewise, Katie Fucking Tur just purred about how 'serene' Cheeto seemed at the RNC. . . Lastly, everyone probably had the 'pleasure' of watching the Holt Hack just pestering Biden with question after question after question either 1) about his mental acuity or 2) how he might be responsible for the violence because of his 'violent rhetoric.' Un-fucking-believable. It's worse than I have ever seen it. AND they are giving **$$Y-Grabber a completely free ride. And I have watched a LOT of presidential elections. And this is the worst candidate by any objective measure that I have ever seen in my life.

Tweedy

(1,284 posts)
13. That is a concern
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 11:43 PM
Jul 2024

Yes. The media has not covered themselves in glory here.
You would think the press was covering a beauty contest instead of the election of the U.S. president.
It is a sorry state of speculative, unsourced affairs with few exceptions.

valleyrogue

(2,512 posts)
29. Rachel Maddow last night said in effect the reason Vance was picked
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 07:52 PM
Jul 2024

is because Trump is going to win, and it doesn't matter who he picks, even if who he picks is a lapdog for Peter Thiel.

It was such bullshit coming from somebody who has a Ph.D. and is a Rhodes Scholar. I had to shut her off because she is so damned ignorant.

AZ8theist

(7,037 posts)
10. Just sent a reply to an Adam Shiff funding request
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 09:58 PM
Jul 2024

...and told him NOT ANOTHER DIME until he retracts his comments about Joe dropping out. No more contributions until he wholeheartedly endorses President Joe Biden for re-election.

Johnny2X2X

(23,657 posts)
14. Good news
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 11:51 PM
Jul 2024

I think the noise is stuff from a couple weeks ago that the media is recycling and making seem fresh.

Biden will be the nominee and he will win. There is not real effort to get him to step down, just conversations to make sure he can win.

Chakaconcarne

(2,770 posts)
19. That's been my feeling as well.. We know it's a maga/russia based coordinated effort
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 08:21 AM
Jul 2024

and it's bloody desperate because they know TFG's chances of winning legitimately are extremely low.

All of the consternation around here and attacking our own is feeding the frenzy.

moniss

(8,568 posts)
18. People need to
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 01:45 AM
Jul 2024

check the political donations received by these ones calling for Joe to leave. We are deeply into an age where "selling out" is considered to be a goal to make one successful rather than it showing a lack of integrity and general character.

Chakaconcarne

(2,770 posts)
20. We have no widespread proof this is happening, but plenty of discussion around here as if it is...
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 08:24 AM
Jul 2024

mucholderthandirt

(1,739 posts)
22. But, Biden is old!
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 08:56 AM
Jul 2024

Everybody wants him out!

He's got dementia, he can't keep a thought in his head, he can't finish a sentence without a trillion gaffes! What's wrong with you people?!!?

Oh. Wait. That's Trump. My bad. Carry on. Dems have to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again!

LET'S GO JOE! LET'S GO!

SWBTATTReg

(25,970 posts)
23. And people are returning to the very valid belief that tRUMP would be a living, waking disaster to walk the
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:44 PM
Jul 2024

Country should he ever again, be in the WH.

tRUMP is a disaster. He's a rapist. He's cheated numerous times on his taxes. He's a racist. He's stupid and ignorant. He's cheated in his personal relationships/cheated on his wive(s) (probably on all of them too). And the list goes on and on...

26. now that's some good news and good press. I think I'm just gonna leave it at that.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:00 PM
Jul 2024

sometimes you just gotta celebrate.
even the smallest things.
or else nothing adds up to victory.

and sometimes, when things are down
you gotta do like in "Ricky Business"



really appreciate this post.
best news I have seen all day.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
27. Three points isn't enough to overcome
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:46 PM
Jul 2024

all the skullduggery:
-challenging massive numbers of voters in blue areas
-intimidating poll workers and voters
-gaming the EC

We need to get serious about motivating the 1/3 of eligible non-voters. It will take massive numbers to beat the cheat.

Alright - there's a bumper sticker. "Beat the cheat. Vote!"

valleyrogue

(2,512 posts)
28. I totally believe it. I think as long as Joe Biden is on the top of the ticket, Democrats will win
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 07:47 PM
Jul 2024

and perhaps win big. Those who try to sabotage Biden need to shut up, and I think they will after the convention.

I have never wavered from this feeling Biden will win a second term outright.

It makes no sense Trump could even remotely expand his base. If this were a different opponent, then it might be possible, but Trump is a known quantity, and I don't think most people want a repeat performance from him.

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