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BumRushDaShow

(137,245 posts)
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 07:14 AM Jul 19

Biden 'more determined than ever' to beat Trump after RNC speech, campaign says

Source: The Hill

07/19/24 1:03 AM ET


The Biden campaign on Thursday ripped former President Trump’s convention speech as a rambling attempt to mask his “extreme vision” for a second term, while touting President Biden’s intention to stay in the race. Biden campaign chair Jen O’Malley Dillon in a statement sought to connect Trump to Project 2025, a controversial policy blueprint from the Heritage Foundation that Trump and his team have aggressively tried to distance themselves from.

“Tonight, Donald Trump rambled on for well over an hour and failed to mention Project 2025 even once,” O’Malley Dillon said in a statement. “He failed to mention how he had inflicted pain and cruelty on the women of America by overturning Roe v Wade. He failed to mention his plan to take over the civil service and to pardon the January 6th insurrectionists.

“He sought to find problems with America, not to provide solutions. But after all, it was Donald Trump who destroyed our economy, ripped away rights, and failed middle class families,” she continued. “Now he pursues the presidency with an even more extreme vision for where he wants to take this country.”

O’Malley Dillon argued President Biden is running “for an America where we defend democracy, not diminish it. Where we restore our rights and protect our freedoms, not take them away.” “The stakes have never been higher. The choice has never been more clear,” she said. “President Biden is more determined than ever to defeat Donald Trump and his Project 2025 agenda in November.”

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4781229-rnc-convention-trump-2024-speech-milwaukee-biden-campaign-project-2025/

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Biden 'more determined than ever' to beat Trump after RNC speech, campaign says (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 19 OP
K & R..................... Lovie777 Jul 19 #1
Now that jdvance has joined him, Butterflylady Jul 19 #35
Spot on The Grand Illuminist Jul 19 #38
Yup. Wait for the post convention polls. If they barely move or drop Tadpole Raisin Jul 19 #2
I still DownriverDem Jul 19 #3
Me too. Biden /Harris FTW 634-5789 Jul 19 #4
Me three, Biden /Harris FTW KS Toronado Jul 19 #24
Ditto. I did not once waiver in my belief in and support of Prez Biden & Veep Kamala. MoJoe cannot pull out now. onetexan Jul 19 #31
Kicking for democracy! StarryNite Jul 19 #5
Stay in it Joe nowforever Jul 19 #6
Too late: The Damage has been done speak easy Jul 19 #7
Did the election happen while I was sleeping? WTF is this "too late" shit? Hermit-The-Prog Jul 19 #9
you tell me speak easy Jul 19 #10
You made the claim, only you can explain it. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 19 #11
K speak easy Jul 19 #12
So...explain it. Deek1935 Jul 19 #39
Ran away I guess Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 19 #48
nope speak easy Jul 19 #49
Yah....I must a slept thru it too....oh wait PortTack Jul 19 #22
Bullshit. Elessar Zappa Jul 19 #43
I agree that it's not too late, but the election isn't 4 months away Polybius Jul 19 #45
I don't want him to step aside, but I partially agree with you Polybius Jul 19 #44
Nah...it'll work out. BTW,did everyone see Trump last night. OMG.... Bengus81 Jul 19 #56
That's up to the people with the big bucks and the media. tavernier Jul 19 #8
Gawd it was HORRIBLE. More Hannibal Lectner,more rambling,praising dictators.... Bengus81 Jul 19 #13
Go Joe kacekwl Jul 19 #14
I didn't watch that speech PennRalphie Jul 19 #15
"The campaign needs to start ramping up" BumRushDaShow Jul 19 #17
+1,000 PortTack Jul 19 #23
Where are the ads touting the economy? PennRalphie Jul 19 #33
You are minimally around DU so you are obviously missing a lot BumRushDaShow Jul 19 #37
I am not here every day. PennRalphie Jul 19 #52
I am a multigenerational Philadelphian BumRushDaShow Jul 19 #54
I am a multigenerational Pittsburgher PennRalphie Jul 19 #57
I've been to Pittsburgh many times for work trips before I retired since we had a satellite office there BumRushDaShow Jul 19 #59
Deluzio has a battle on his hands. PennRalphie Jul 19 #60
I think our only "argument" that we are having was about the presence of "ads" BumRushDaShow Jul 19 #61
Maybe Biden can get some help now, you know, instead of knives? nt BootinUp Jul 19 #16
What to believe? birdographer Jul 19 #18
How to know...if it's from the m$m and it's negative about President Biden, you're being gaslit! PortTack Jul 19 #25
You should make this a separate post Farmer-Rick Jul 19 #27
Or if not banning them entirely birdographer Jul 19 #30
Yeah, it isn't a binary choice Farmer-Rick Jul 19 #34
The smear campaign against Biden was poorly timed mcar Jul 19 #19
I think they are still stunned at the 90 minutes of droning, whining, word salady and incoherent speech-making BumRushDaShow Jul 19 #20
"Spectacle" for 90 minutes. rubbersole Jul 19 #21
All the Biden nay-sayers had to do was watch one of Trump's rallies mcar Jul 19 #26
I fast forwarded through most of it but the part that had me laughing KS Toronado Jul 19 #28
Let's gooooooooooo. suegeo Jul 19 #29
Donald Trump is unfit for the office of president suegeo Jul 19 #32
Agreed, but will that translate into a Democratic victory? totodeinhere Jul 19 #55
Awesome! penttbom Jul 19 #36
I would like to see Trump take a beating. twodogsbarking Jul 19 #40
Beat Him penttbom Jul 19 #41
In the election, that is. calimary Jul 19 #46
Yeah, in the election. twodogsbarking Jul 19 #47
Really, Hulk Hogan wearing a tutu and singing Lady Gaga is the best they got? Initech Jul 19 #42
Really? Glad I missed that. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 19 #50
The video is even weirder. Initech Jul 19 #53
There is *one* thing that will let us win The Mouth Jul 19 #51
I'm in 120% grockri Jul 19 #58

Butterflylady

(3,842 posts)
35. Now that jdvance has joined him,
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 11:40 AM
Jul 19

Push, push, push Project 2025 and abortion like it's never been before. I know that's using fear, but if it helps, go for.

Tadpole Raisin

(1,289 posts)
2. Yup. Wait for the post convention polls. If they barely move or drop
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 07:36 AM
Jul 19

(When has that ever happened), hunker down and stay the course.

His cult would have loved it if he embodied Regan from The Exorcist but sane people will run away.

What a self indulgent shit show.

onetexan

(13,477 posts)
31. Ditto. I did not once waiver in my belief in and support of Prez Biden & Veep Kamala. MoJoe cannot pull out now.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:22 AM
Jul 19

Everything is on the line right now. We are in Code Red mode. Everyone, all Dems, Independents & sensible Republicans - need to put country before party. God help us if the Con /GOP take control of the government.

nowforever

(377 posts)
6. Stay in it Joe
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 07:59 AM
Jul 19

I think he is so inspired now and I hope he comes out of this weekend like a lion on fire. One shitty debate and they buried him, that must piss him off.

Polybius

(16,798 posts)
45. I agree that it's not too late, but the election isn't 4 months away
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 01:41 PM
Jul 19

109 days until the election, but early voting in some swing states starts in September. Again, I agree with you that we have time. The second debate in September can turn this around if Biden does well and Trump goes off the rails.

Polybius

(16,798 posts)
44. I don't want him to step aside, but I partially agree with you
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 01:38 PM
Jul 19

Trump will be using their own words against him in campaign ads.

Bengus81

(7,255 posts)
56. Nah...it'll work out. BTW,did everyone see Trump last night. OMG....
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:30 PM
Jul 19

Let's see if MSM gives him the usual pass for that crap.

tavernier

(12,990 posts)
8. That's up to the people with the big bucks and the media.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 08:14 AM
Jul 19

They run the show now.

I wonder what the actual voters might do come Election Day? I say let’s wait and find out…

Bengus81

(7,255 posts)
13. Gawd it was HORRIBLE. More Hannibal Lectner,more rambling,praising dictators....
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 08:56 AM
Jul 19

Let's see what the MSM does with that POS speech.

PennRalphie

(209 posts)
15. I didn't watch that speech
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 09:08 AM
Jul 19

Can’t figure out the fascination to watch it.

President Biden is our candidate. The campaign needs to start ramping up and the talk should be economy. Biden’s excellent foreign policy experience, and the help he’s giving to people who need it. That wins PA and the election.

BumRushDaShow

(137,245 posts)
17. "The campaign needs to start ramping up"
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 09:17 AM
Jul 19

The campaign HAS BEEN GOING non-stop during the primaries and ratcheted up once the primaries were over.

The media wants you to think otherwise.

The surrogates are all out there, mainly covered only by "local media" (by design of the RW-corporate owned national media). VP Harris has been to over 60 events since January and her hubby has been all over as well (I saw he was in Nebraska Wednesday after recovering from COVID himself).

Emhoff Stumps For Biden In Omaha

KIOS | By 24/7 News Source
Published July 18, 2024 at 1:55 PM CDT


Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff is working to grow support for President Joe Biden's reelection campaign in Nebraska. Emhoff, the husband of Vice President Kamala Harris, was in Omaha yesterday. Emhoff visited the Highlander Accelerator in north Omaha and met with state and community leaders at Blackstone's Wonderbowl.

https://www.kios.org/news/2024-07-18/emhoff-stumps-for-biden-in-omaha


The ads, texts, and phone calls have been flowing as well. I know a get a KAZILLION emails every day as well as a BAZILLION texts (I have had to unsubscribe from some of them).

PennRalphie

(209 posts)
33. Where are the ads touting the economy?
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:51 AM
Jul 19

You’re getting the correspondence. I get the correspondence. My Democratic friends get it. The former trump voters who are looking for someone to vote for aren’t receiving anything.

I know people get excited about the anti trump ads. That’s what runs here. It reminds everyone how awful he is. I want to see ads showing PA that this booming economy we have is because of Biden and his policies. Ads about how world leaders respect Biden and do what he suggests. Ads showing how he has helped those who need help.

Sending surrogates out for fundraisers and to talk to Democrats who are already voting for Biden isn’t what wins PA.

I keep saying this, but maybe so many here live in such deep blue areas that swing states aren’t understood. So I’ll say it again.

Republican voters are already not voting for trump. I want them to vote FOR Biden. Telling them how awful trump is will not do that. They know that. They’re not voting for him. They are desperately seeking a reason to vote FOR Biden. A town hall. A campaign event not just for Democratic Party insiders. Social media and print ads touting the economic successes Biden has had.

Kamala and Dr.Jill have both been to Pittsburgh. They gave speeches to party insiders. Those former trump voters weren’t invited nor were they addressed.

You can disagree with me, that’s fine. I just live here, the reluctant voters are begging for a reason to affirmatively vote for Biden. Let’s give them that reason.

Peace.

BumRushDaShow

(137,245 posts)
37. You are minimally around DU so you are obviously missing a lot
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 12:07 PM
Jul 19

and then presenting what you miss, as some kind of "reality".

Every ad that releases gets posted somewhere here on DU - whether on either of the DU video groups or in GD or even in LBN.

Here is a recent one that brings up the "economy" -



Some earlier ones -





You need to understand that there are multiple TYPES/FORMATS of ads that are run - the "broadcast" ones (TV, radio), the digital "streaming/social media" ones (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, etc., that appear during streams of entertainment and sports programs or are available within the social media app), the billboards that are set up all along highways and in towns and cities, the "advertising trucks" (with LED ads running on their sides) that drive around a venue during an event, and even the airplane-pulled banners that fly over beaches.

The Biden-Harris campaign and DNC are TARGETING certain ads to certain states and localities so not everyone will see the identical ads. The Spanish-language ads will run in markets with large Hispanic populations. The ads that run in urban areas that focus on black and other minority voters are NOT going to run in all-white rural areas.

The more you understand this, the better informed that you will be.

PennRalphie

(209 posts)
52. I am not here every day.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 03:32 PM
Jul 19

You’re right about that. I just live in a swing area in a swing state. I doubt if most of the voters Biden would like to have are here everyday either.

I’m talking specifically about what I am seeing in my local area. I live north of Pittsburgh, not all that far from Butler. Pittsburgh is solid blue. The suburbs and areas surrounding Pittsburgh are not. The ads you are referencing are being sent to Pittsburgh area voters? I am speaking specifically about the voters in this area. More specifically, the former trump voters who are already not voting for him. Those people are looking for an affirmative reason to vote for Biden. PA is a large state. Scranton is probably 300 miles from here, and Western Pennsylvanians do not relate. This is also not an “all white rural area”

I apologize if I wasn’t aware the voters Biden would like to have need to be on DU daily. I’m also dialed in to our local Democratic offices, so I am certainly not uninformed.

Once again I apologize. Did not realize that I had to be on DU daily to want Biden to reach all voters.

I’m also not sure if I should be offended by certain inferences or not. Instead, I will simply log off for now.

BumRushDaShow

(137,245 posts)
54. I am a multigenerational Philadelphian
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 04:17 PM
Jul 19

whose family has been here since the 1800s.

You know where Philly is right?

Over the past 30 or so years, the suburbs of Philadelphia have gone from red to pink to purplish, and now to light blue. Even "red" Lancaster County, home of the Amish, has shifted to light red and the urban areas there like Lancaster City, managed to elected a second Democrat to the state House after the 2022 election. It was thanks to places like Lancaster and even the swing county of Bucks over here, that helped Democrats flip 12 seats in the state House in order to take control of that chamber for the first time in a dozen years, and install Philly's own Joanna McClinton as the Speaker.

The population loss in western PA is why, after the 2020 Census was done and PA lost a congressional seat, that lost seat happened in western PA, and not here in the east, because we have gained population here in the east.

My point is that you basically asserted that ads were not happening and I am telling you otherwise. Those ads are even targeted differently on the 2 sides of the state to aim at the specific demographics there. PA is one of the battleground states that has continually been a target of most of the ads, being that we have the largest block of Electoral Votes among the swing states.

Since John Fetterman is a backer of Biden and lives over in the west (although born in the Reading area), he knows the deal and I expect he will be a good surrogate as the campaign moves into its final run to November.

I know that back in 2020, Biden made a trip to Erie as that was a county that flipped in 2016. He was able to flip it back in 2020. Am hoping he can get it on his schedule as we get closer to the election, where his union street cred can be highlighted.

PennRalphie

(209 posts)
57. I am a multigenerational Pittsburgher
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:35 PM
Jul 19

You do know where Pittsburgh is, right? Super Bowls, Stanley Cups, World Series Championships, Collegiate National Championships, Westinghouse, PPG, Primanti’s, Carnegie Mellon, University of Pittsburgh, Andy Warhol, among others.

I am certain the ad buys in the greater Philadelphia area might be different than the greater Pittsburgh area. We are a smaller market. More people here identify with Cleveland than Philadelphia. Most people here only know people from the eastern part of the state from college, including myself.

The city of Pittsburgh’s population loss is very well known. The loss of the Steel industry decimated this area. Without the absolute resilience of the people of Western PA, this entire region would consist of ghost towns. However, it doesn’t. Pittsburgh is trying to make another comeback. The city Senator Fetterman moved to, Braddock, has seen revitalization thanks to the Senator. The area in which I live has seen a huge population growth. Allegheny County, where Pittsburgh lies, is considered to be more established. The outlying counties are growing, both in business moving in and families relocating from elsewhere. Pittsburgh is solid blue, as are many of the suburbs. Other suburbs are red/pink to purple/blue. Outlying counties trend from deep red to purple.

My focus is on those purple area voters who will never vote for trump. Some voted in 2016, some did not. I am not even attempting to know the political divisions of the Eastern part of the state. Never have. My focus has been and will remain on those former trump or non voters. I want them to vote for Biden.

I am not here to argue. Simply making my observation. President Biden would gain thousands of votes if he were to hold a town hall event in this area. But into in the city, where his vote is assured, but in the outlying areas where people are looking for someone to vote for. I have constantly stated that I feel President Biden will easily win PA. I would like to see a huge margin of victory.

That’s all I’ve been saying. You can disagree, that’s fine.

BumRushDaShow

(137,245 posts)
59. I've been to Pittsburgh many times for work trips before I retired since we had a satellite office there
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 07:11 PM
Jul 19

I have also been to Cleveland (again work-related) and always chuckled that it was my first time seeing "Pennsylvania's Great Lake" (Erie) but from the Ohio side.

One of my supervisors was also born and raised in Pittsburgh and talked about it non-stop. Whenever I was out there, I would remark to my coworkers there about how pretty it was in the area with the hills. Their response would be to pause, think about it, and then agree with a "I guess it is".

My old boss used to talk about how back when the steel mills were still belching soot, putting out laundry on clotheslines to dry was a nightmare. It has obviously been cleaned-up since but also with a loss of much of that industry.

HOWEVER it was one of the few places able to cash in on the "hospital system"/"medical research" trade, which really helped to transition the area out of the old "rust belt" moniker and into what has been a lucrative type of work.

I still think the best bet out there for the areas in Allegheny County outside Pittsburgh proper, is John Fetterman. He did not one but two, 67 county "listening" tours when he was running for Senator, so he has a feel for not just suburban areas, but also the small towns in the more rural counties.

If Fetterman and Biden can join together as part of some kind of town hall there, that would optimum.

Because this is an election year, it is almost guaranteed that Congress WILL take a longer "break" - most likely the entire month of August - so that allows them to all campaign. That would be a good time to schedule events with Biden and either or both of our Senators, along with Chris Deluzio and perhaps Summer Lee, who are also obviously running for re-election.

PennRalphie

(209 posts)
60. Deluzio has a battle on his hands.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 07:42 PM
Jul 19

His district is as close to 50/50 as you can get. Biden and Fetterman would help him tremendously. He will need it. Summer Lee is a different story. She represents a large part of the city. She will easily win, but usually doesn’t show up at campaign events in most of the suburbs. Mike Kelly has a great challenger from Erie. His seat is winnable, although the district is around R+15.

The point remains the same. There are many, many former trump voters that can be encouraged to vote for Biden. That’s all I want. I honestly don’t understand the need for arguing this point, whether I post hourly or monthly.

I am surprised that anyone in this area would tell you they didn’t appreciate the scenery we see daily without hesitation. Perhaps after not living here for awhile, they simply forgot. We are a big outdoors area, with many great hiking and biking areas.

The Mon Valley, where smokestacks would blacken the air, has been decimated. Other than a few small areas, it has not yet come back. The air has cleaned, although a few areas still have air quality alerts occasionally.

I do remember traveling the Schuylkill Expressway on the way to my college friend’s parents house on the Jersey Shore. Interesting. Reminds me of our Parkways East/West.

BumRushDaShow

(137,245 posts)
61. I think our only "argument" that we are having was about the presence of "ads"
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 09:18 PM
Jul 19

and I mentioned just some of the ways that ads ARE being put out there.

In fact, one of the other methods that I neglected to mention, were the "bus wraps" that the DNC used in Milwaukee this past week - https://www.wispolitics.com/2024/dnc-launches-57-branded-buses-in-mke-that-make-stakes-of-2024-election-clear-ahead-of-republican-national-convention/

And when it comes to where someone lives, one often "takes it for granted". You grow up with it and don't think that much about it because it is "home". It is no different from how I had driven through Tamaqua in Schuylkill County, on the way up to Niagara Falls, knowing that it is also a small depressed former coal town, but I was taken aback by how scenic it was. The drive up that way also let me see wind turbines in operation for the first time (that I had no idea were there), that were mounted on the ridges up there. That was pretty wild.

When one travels from one border to the other in this state (which I have done) and you realize that "Hey, I'm still in Pennsylvania", it can be wondrous.

birdographer

(2,109 posts)
18. What to believe?
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 09:29 AM
Jul 19

On the home page here at DU I see a story about Pelosi telling the House that Biden will be persuaded soon to exit the presidential race. Next to that is this story about how Biden is more determined than ever to beat trump. These are both legitimate posts taken from news stories that are out there, I'm not faulting DU in any way, don't misunderstand. This is what is out there for us to try to process. How is the average person who encounters news stories like these online at the same time supposed to have any idea what is really going on? It's a rhetorical question, I'm not sure there is an answer. But it struck me today when I opened DU, which is now my sole source of news.

ETA: I notice that one is from The Hill, one from WAPO. That offers some clarification...

Farmer-Rick

(10,917 posts)
27. You should make this a separate post
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:08 AM
Jul 19

It's what I have been thinking too.

These anti Biden post have had their time. We've discussed them to death here on DU. I think it is now time to start banning these concern trolls and Biden-is-too-old posts.

Yeah some big names in the Democratic party have been manipulated into repeating RNC talking points about Biden. That's too bad. Maybe it's more a symptom of their excessive age than it is of Biden's. But this needs to end. It will tear apart our party.

It is so much like what happened in 2016. The reason I know is because in 2016, I too fell for the Russian trolls, bots, bribes and corporate media Pro Pedo Trump spin and corporate fake polls.

In 2016, I really believed Hillary should have stood down. I was stupid and wrong. I was hoping for this magical Dem candidate to come out of the woodwork and be the left leaning liberal I could only imagine.

That's what is happening now. I can see it repeating itself in real time. The bots, the social media hype by Pro Russian owners, Russian money, trolls and stupidity. The corporate media in bed with Pedo Trump never bringing up his psychopathic behavior, his lies, his crimes.

Maybe if we nip it in the bud here other outlets would follow suit. But at least we would not be exposed to this media manipulation here on DU.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

birdographer

(2,109 posts)
30. Or if not banning them entirely
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:18 AM
Jul 19

Maybe if it is like the Pelosi one, require at least one corroborating reference from a reliable source. Or when the misleading ones are posted, have some kind of disclaimer (in the post heading, not in the comments) when it is from a known pro-trump source and may be false or incomplete information (or I guess we are supposed to know those?).

I was mostly just making an observation. When voting day rolls around, I will be voting blue down the ticket no matter who is on the ballot. I like Joe and hope to keep him, but nothing will change my vote. I'd vote for a ham sandwich over trump.

Farmer-Rick

(10,917 posts)
34. Yeah, it isn't a binary choice
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 11:18 AM
Jul 19

There are a lot of possibilities between banning and letting them post freely. And DU does have some breaks on trolls and right wing sources.

The problem is almost all the corporate media has become right wing. And some Democratic leaders are buying into the anti Biden crap.

mcar

(43,176 posts)
19. The smear campaign against Biden was poorly timed
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 09:35 AM
Jul 19

Did they really think the RNC would be anything less than a sh!t show?

BumRushDaShow

(137,245 posts)
20. I think they are still stunned at the 90 minutes of droning, whining, word salady and incoherent speech-making
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 09:44 AM
Jul 19

"But Biden..."

rubbersole

(7,909 posts)
21. "Spectacle" for 90 minutes.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 09:54 AM
Jul 19

Best Dem ad ever. No voters are going to be positively influenced to switch to the gop. Imagine Joe not knowing his VP. 25th Amendment that day.

mcar

(43,176 posts)
26. All the Biden nay-sayers had to do was watch one of Trump's rallies
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:08 AM
Jul 19

This whole thing has been political malpractice, generated in part by journalistic malpractice.

KS Toronado

(18,599 posts)
28. I fast forwarded through most of it but the part that had me laughing
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:15 AM
Jul 19

he was bragging how some ship manufacturer was impressed with his ship designing abilities like
their engineers had never thought of that. Just another made up story by him.

suegeo

(2,795 posts)
32. Donald Trump is unfit for the office of president
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:25 AM
Jul 19

Donald Trump is a convicted felon, an adjudicated rapist, has been a congenital liar, and is unfit for the office of president.

totodeinhere

(13,214 posts)
55. Agreed, but will that translate into a Democratic victory?
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:01 PM
Jul 19

Others who were unfit for the presidency have been elected before. GWB comes to mind. Also Reagan.

Initech

(101,031 posts)
53. The video is even weirder.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 03:59 PM
Jul 19

Seriously it's like everything Trump does and everything that happens at Mar-A-Shithole are things that you'd see on those National Geographic shows about third world dictatorships.

The Mouth

(3,250 posts)
51. There is *one* thing that will let us win
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 03:19 PM
Jul 19

But it means doing *WHATEVER* is necessary to get gas and groceries back to where they were in 2020.

If gas/diesel and electricity gets back to 2019/2020 prices, we win. If not, we lose. No ifs, or 'But corporate blah blah blah'... Get gasoline cheap and get every freaking power plant online and subsidize the living FUCK out of every form of power or we are toast.

The economy is the only thing that really matters; inflation needs to be *reversed* to where I can fill a big assed truck in California for $30 or $40 bucks and heat my house for $200 not$500, no matter what else has to be done or I'm not looking forward to 2025.

IT'S THE ECONOMY!

grockri

(37 posts)
58. I'm in 120%
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:47 PM
Jul 19

I am backing Joe Biden. The people wanting Joe need to STFU. Quit airing our dirty laundry in public. The house members suck.

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