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kansasobama

(1,185 posts)
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:24 PM Jul 19

Dr. Sanjay Gupta: There are still key questions about Trump's injuries after attempted assassination

Source: CNN

t has been nearly a week since gunfire erupted at Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, resulting in an injury to the former president, the death of one attendee, Corey Comperatore, and severe injuries to two others.

And although the images we’ve seen of Trump since his attempted assassination have been those of a person who was barely injured and is now in high spirits, what we’ve been told by the campaign offers very little insight into the former president’s condition, what kind of care he received or how his medical team will monitor him in the days and weeks ahead.

A full public assessment of Trump’s injuries is necessary, for both the former president’s own health and the clarity it can provide for voters about the recovery of the man who could become president of the United States once again. The concern is that gunshot blasts near the head can cause injuries that aren’t immediately noticeable, such as bleeding in or on the brain, damage to the inner ear or even psychological trauma. As a trauma neurosurgeon, I have seen how a thorough evaluation after any kind of gunshot wound can provide a complete picture and lead to a speedier recovery.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/18/health/dr-sanjay-gupta-analysis-trump/index.html



At long last, CNN has decided to have a valid article.

Read certain facts in the article.

"But it is still surprising that we have not heard more about the exact diagnosis and care of what may have been a catastrophic injury. And, while all the attention has been on his ear and right side of his head, that doesn’t mean other injuries may not be present. It’s not even clear that he was struck by a primary projectile from the rifle, a secondary projectile or a combination of both. Sometimes, it can be difficult to know without an in-depth evaluation."

"a fracture to the thin bone in that region of the skull, an epidural hematoma (or bleeding between the skull and the brain) and damage to the bones of the inner ear, which can result in hearing loss, vertigo or dizziness.

A CT scan can usually detect such injuries, but they aren’t always immediately apparent. As a result, sometimes patients are observed in the hospital and may even undergo a repeat CT scan.

The stress from a shooting can also have psychological effects."


They are not forthcoming. I tell you.
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Dr. Sanjay Gupta: There are still key questions about Trump's injuries after attempted assassination (Original Post) kansasobama Jul 19 OP
Well, Creep Jr said his father was shot in the SharonClark Jul 19 #1
They're working up to... canetoad Jul 20 #6
Trump basically said that during his RNC speech, yardwork Jul 20 #13
And he beat Jesus' record too FakeNoose Jul 20 #15
shithole will ignore.................... Lovie777 Jul 19 #2
YA THINK Skittles Jul 19 #3
I don't think the gunshot blast was "near" Trump's head. JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 19 #4
AR-15 shot vs. watermelon LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 20 #5
That's been disproven. Teleprompters were both intact in post-shooting TV footage on networks. Liberty Belle Jul 20 #7
Thank you. I'll wait for the facts LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 20 #8
No you didn't wait. You ignored facts and posted a completely utterly bogus comparison with a watermelon. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 20 #10
It is a fact that the teleprompters are intact, but you ignore that fact because you already decided Bernardo de La Paz Jul 20 #11
Big fundamental errors people make, exemplified by your post Bernardo de La Paz Jul 20 #9
Nothing new from Trump land. yardwork Jul 20 #12
Hey, Dr. Sanjay! mucholderthandirt Jul 20 #14

SharonClark

(10,191 posts)
1. Well, Creep Jr said his father was shot in the
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:33 PM
Jul 19

FACE. More proof that we should distrust everything that lying crime family says.

FakeNoose

(34,699 posts)
15. And he beat Jesus' record too
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 11:17 AM
Jul 20

It took Our Lord 3 days to come back from the dead, but Chump did it in about 30 seconds.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,673 posts)
4. I don't think the gunshot blast was "near" Trump's head.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 07:15 PM
Jul 19

It was 150 yards away. He got a cut on his ear, probably from flying debris. If his brain is damaged, that would not be new.

5. AR-15 shot vs. watermelon
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 12:42 AM
Jul 20

I would think that if a bullet travelling 3,000 ft/sec just barely touched his ear, the wound would not be coverable by a 1 1/2 by 2 1/2 inch bandage.

I'm in the "nicked by a piece of the teleprompter" camp. Letting the medical records out would interfere with the "He survived a shot in the face because God has chosen him to save our country" storyline they're working so hard to create.

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,282 posts)
11. It is a fact that the teleprompters are intact, but you ignore that fact because you already decided
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 05:13 AM
Jul 20

You already decided it was either like a head on shot to a watermelon or a teleprompter shard because his head didn't explode like a watermelon explodes from a direct hit. You wrote 'I'm in the "nicked by a piece of the teleprompter" camp' and post a watermelon head on shot as if to prove it wasn't a bullet.

You ignore abundant evidence that it was NOT a teleprompter shard.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bullet-glass-trump-wound/

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,282 posts)
9. Big fundamental errors people make, exemplified by your post
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 04:58 AM
Jul 20

The watermelon shot is head on. The bullet penetrates the hard unyielding shell of the watermelon and as it does so, the shock waves have to go somewhere. But the shell is unyielding, so the shock waves ripple around and where the shell is thinner and weaker it breaks up. In the mean time, the bullet is penetrating into the interior which is also solid, inflexible, though it is deliciously crunchable. But the waves travelling through the interior also set up stresses that get resolved at weak points. Overall result is that the watermelon absorbs a lot of the energy of the bullet and explodes.

The ear shot is NOT head on. The ear sticks out and is barely nicked by the bullet. It is like the difference between shooting a 4 mm thick leaf and shooting a watermelon.

The ear is not brittle like watermelon or a head. It is based on flexible cartilage. Challenge it, and it gets knocked aside. The flexibility means that the energy is absorbed by the movement of the ear and not transmitted. Plus the shot was front to back, so the ear easily moves. The other way there would have been more damage but definitely nothing like an exploding skull.

The ear shot transfers very little energy into a nick. It takes a chunk out because it does have energy, but that chunk is not pushed deeper into the watermelon or head transferring energy as it goes. The earlobe is thin, like about 4 millimeters.

There is not much "there" there in an earlobe. Only idiots and hagiographers believe he was shot in the face. To post an exploding watermelon is to accept the "shot in the face" narrative.

1) Trump was not shot in the face on like the watermelon video.
2) Ears are flexible unlike watermelons.
3) Ears are thin unlike watermelons or heads behind faces.
4) The bullet was photographed in flight after it nicked his ear.


It is necessary to analyze these things more deeply than just a "oh head shots make heads explode" first take.

yardwork

(63,337 posts)
12. Nothing new from Trump land.
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 09:33 AM
Jul 20

The only medical reports we've ever gotten from Trump were ridiculous, obviously dictated by he himself, from hack physicians.

And where are his tax returns?

mucholderthandirt

(780 posts)
14. Hey, Dr. Sanjay!
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 11:10 AM
Jul 20

Trump had a nick in the ear so small you can barely see it. What else is there to check? He didn't get brain damage, it appears he wasn't even shocked all that much (though that dive down to the platform was worthy of an Olympics show of score cards -- I gave him a three).

The medical records should be released, since that side is always wanting stuff from Biden, no matter how much he releases.

But for the love of God, man, he wasn't even actually SHOT, he was SHOT AT. And the dumb ass shooter missed! Trump doesn't even need a Band-Aid, just a little Neosporin and daily bathing.

Half an inch to the right, and what would we be talking about now? Trump hadn't named his VP choice, it was all over but the martyrdom.

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