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mahatmakanejeeves

(68,016 posts)
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:12 PM Jul 2024

Secret Service encourages Trump campaign to stop outdoor rallies

Source: Washington Post

Secret Service encourages Trump campaign to stop outdoor rallies

Trump campaign is scouting indoor venues, such as basketball arenas and other large spaces where thousands of people can fit, people familiar with the request said.

By Josh Dawsey
July 23, 2024 at 5:53 p.m. EDT

Secret Service officials encouraged Donald Trump’s campaign to stop scheduling large outdoor rallies and other outdoor events with big crowds after the assassination attempt on the former president in Butler, Pa., according to people familiar with the matter.

In the aftermath of the shooting, agents from the Secret Service communicated their concerns about large outdoor rallies going forward to Trump campaign advisers, three people familiar with the matter said. … The people familiar with the matter spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private discussions.

For upcoming events, Trump’s team is scouting indoor venues, such as basketball arenas and other large spaces where thousands of people can fit, people familiar with the request said. The campaign is not currently planning any large outdoor events, a person close to Trump said.

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In early 2024, Trump advisers told the Secret Service they were planning to do large events regularly, and would need increasing amounts of protection and assets, a person familiar with the conversation said. But the two sides often battled over resources — with requests from Trump’s detail being rejected by the Secret Service.

By Josh Dawsey
Josh Dawsey is a political enterprise and investigations reporter for The Washington Post. He joined the paper in 2017 and previously covered the White House. Before that, he covered the White House for Politico, and New York City Hall and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie for the Wall Street Journal. Twitter https://x.com/jdawsey1

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/23/trump-rallies-secret-service-change/



Hat tip, Joe.My.God.

Secret Service Urges Trump To End Outdoor Rallies
July 23, 2024

https://www.joemygod.com/2024/07/secret-service-urges-trump-to-end-outdoor-rallies/
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Secret Service encourages Trump campaign to stop outdoor rallies (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2024 OP
He refuses to pay for indoor rallies...he wants cheap or free outdoor venues PortTack Jul 2024 #1
Maybe being shot at will change Trumps mind?? As far as paying for it, if it were riversedge Jul 2024 #9
No way, he just did an outdoor rally this past weekend. n/t iluvtennis Jul 2024 #21
My very first thought, too! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2024 #30
They should simply announce... 2naSalit Jul 2024 #2
Yes. agalisgv Jul 2024 #18
They probably tried before privately to him, but he likes the cheap venues too much. ms liberty Jul 2024 #3
How long before he says: OK, indoor rallies only, but Secret Service pays for the venues Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #32
They encouraged him BEFORE the shooting Joe Cool Jul 2024 #4
Outdoor venues are cheaper and it's easier to lie about attendance numbers. Ocelot II Jul 2024 #5
They left off "Again". Phoenix61 Jul 2024 #6
Yeah, if rightwingers are going to keep taking shots at him... Think. Again. Jul 2024 #7
Probably for the best all around dweller Jul 2024 #8
Most Fascists (including trump) Prefer Outdoor Rallies MrWowWow Jul 2024 #10
Welcome! GreenWave Jul 2024 #14
Why bother? The Grand Illuminist Jul 2024 #11
Cash up front, Donald. keithbvadu2 Jul 2024 #12
He can't pay for indoor venues and many of them are asking for cash up front. Novara Jul 2024 #13
He has left a massive number DENVERPOPS Jul 2024 #27
Outdoor will refresh the air. GreenWave Jul 2024 #15
Not to worry, everything will be fine. twodogsbarking Jul 2024 #16
Trump is too selfish agalisgv Jul 2024 #17
They really know how to hurt a guy Warpy Jul 2024 #19
FUCK, NO !! Here's a guy to took a bullet for democracy. And we want him now, to stay inside? 3Hotdogs Jul 2024 #20
Can't pay. Can't keep his own sickos from shooting him. Probably should drop out. Or get used to this: DJ Porkchop Jul 2024 #22
and pay rent? Never!!!! Now venues will get stiffed instead. Because the Secret Service sucks at their jobs. ZonkerHarris Jul 2024 #23
They can turn off the AC SomedayKindaLove Jul 2024 #24
Oh Trump is going to love that! Perfect solution. Martin68 Jul 2024 #25
Those indoor venues should demand payment up front IronLionZion Jul 2024 #26
Looks like Trump should've encouraged the Secret Service to spend their budget money on training summer_in_TX Jul 2024 #28
He would be completely safe ... usonian Jul 2024 #29
They won't though MistakenLamb Jul 2024 #31
He could always just stay home BlueKota Jul 2024 #33
If Trump hadn't stiffed every indoor venue in the country LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #34

riversedge

(79,177 posts)
9. Maybe being shot at will change Trumps mind?? As far as paying for it, if it were
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:39 PM
Jul 2024

my town, I would demand the money upfront!

Rhiannon12866

(249,328 posts)
30. My very first thought, too!
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:08 AM
Jul 2024

He survived the recent shooting, doesn't care about anyone else...

2naSalit

(99,705 posts)
2. They should simply announce...
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:16 PM
Jul 2024

That they won't provide security for them anymore, period. Take that item off the menu, if they want protection, it has to be possible.

Attilatheblond

(8,142 posts)
32. How long before he says: OK, indoor rallies only, but Secret Service pays for the venues
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:12 AM
Jul 2024

He's all about the 'reimbursement'. Thinks DEMs should reimburse GOP/Trump for all the anti-Biden junk they had made.

Con men don't pay is probably the Trump family motto

Joe Cool

(1,078 posts)
4. They encouraged him BEFORE the shooting
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:19 PM
Jul 2024

Trump doesn’t like indoor rallies because there is no BSing crowd size.
If an indoor arena holds 10,000, that’s it. There’s no saying 20,000 were in attendance, it’s not possible.
I believe the max capacity at the Butler Farm Grounds (which I believe is due to fire/safety regulations) for all of the grounds is 15,000. Trump got about 7k the day of the shooting. He can say he got 10,000, 12,000, whatever, because there there was no true way to take accurate attendance. 5900 went through security to get into the venue area at the time of the start of the speech, but there were a few hundred milling around outside of it.

Ocelot II

(128,827 posts)
5. Outdoor venues are cheaper and it's easier to lie about attendance numbers.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:21 PM
Jul 2024

So unless he was sufficiently frightened by getting the tip of his ear sliced off (like TNR tomcats), he'll ignore that advice and just insist on more SS and other LEO personnel.

Phoenix61

(18,684 posts)
6. They left off "Again".
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:21 PM
Jul 2024

He picked outdoor venues because they are cheaper. He still owes a bunch of money to venues he used years ago. I’m sure any he would want to book now would want to be paid upfront and in-full.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
7. Yeah, if rightwingers are going to keep taking shots at him...
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:22 PM
Jul 2024

...he should probably drop out of the race.

MrWowWow

(1,461 posts)
10. Most Fascists (including trump) Prefer Outdoor Rallies
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:51 PM
Jul 2024

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Novara

(6,115 posts)
13. He can't pay for indoor venues and many of them are asking for cash up front.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:13 PM
Jul 2024

Nobody wants to be on the hook when he stiffs them.

Plus, all those photos of all those empty seats kind of look bad. Heh.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
27. He has left a massive number
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 11:17 PM
Jul 2024

of cities holding the bag for the costs to rent a facility, staff cops, etc in countless cities across the entire U.S. for the past 8 years.

There are other groups that do the EXACT same thing, (Catholic Church - Araphoe County Colorado - 1994), but Trump is the #1 champion in the grifting business......and by far the #1 Con Man...........

Besides, he thinks nothing of his followers having to stand out in the hot sun, without shade or cooling, for hours and hours........



agalisgv

(290 posts)
17. Trump is too selfish
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:58 PM
Jul 2024

And his fragile ego needs constant applause.

I don't see him caring for anyone but himself.

Warpy

(114,363 posts)
19. They really know how to hurt a guy
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 07:04 PM
Jul 2024

He's skipped out on paying too many indoor venues. Either he's going to have to start coughing up big sums in advance or he's going to have to see how his rlallies for hate will do as pay per view events.

I hope all his unpaid bills start catching up to him.

DJ Porkchop

(635 posts)
22. Can't pay. Can't keep his own sickos from shooting him. Probably should drop out. Or get used to this:
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 07:28 PM
Jul 2024
 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
23. and pay rent? Never!!!! Now venues will get stiffed instead. Because the Secret Service sucks at their jobs.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 07:42 PM
Jul 2024

summer_in_TX

(4,010 posts)
28. Looks like Trump should've encouraged the Secret Service to spend their budget money on training
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 11:24 PM
Jul 2024

and recruitment, rather than trying to profiteer off of them by insisting on staying at properties he owned and charging the government highly inflated prices for their accommodations.

I love it when karma catches up.

MistakenLamb

(791 posts)
31. They won't though
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:09 AM
Jul 2024

Indoor arenas require much more money to rent and insure compared to some place like a field or airport hanger

BlueKota

(5,034 posts)
33. He could always just stay home
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:47 AM
Jul 2024

and post angry misspelled words on his social media accounts, with a monitor strapped to his ankle.

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