Thu Dec 6, 2012, 11:19 AM
Purveyor (29,876 posts)
Netanyahu Says Settlements to Be Israeli in Merkel Clash
Source: Bloomberg
By Patrick Donahue - Dec 6, 2012 9:17 AM ET Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said expanded West Bank settlements near Jerusalem will eventually become part of Israel as he clashed with German Chancellor Angela Merkel over the prospective housing plan. The West Bank land where Netanyahu gave preliminary approval for building 3,000 new homes last week, sparking a wave of international criticism, is a “small corridor” between Jerusalem and a major settlement bloc, Netanyahu said today after meeting with the German leader in Berlin. “The curious thing is that most governments” that have looked at the settlement activity, “including the Palestinians themselves, as revealed in leaked documents, understand that these blocs, these arrangements, are going to be part of Israel in a final political settlement of peace,” Netanyahu said. The Israeli leader signaled he wouldn’t back away from the expansion plans, which threaten to split a future Palestine and cut off Palestinians from their desired capital of east Jerusalem. Merkel, who said that Israel’s security is part of Germany’s “reason of state” seven decades after the Holocaust, said the two disagreed over the settlement issue. Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-06/netanyahu-says-settlements-to-be-israeli-in-merkel-clash-1-.html
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Purveyor | Dec 2012 | OP |
geek tragedy | Dec 2012 | #1 | |
R. Daneel Olivaw | Dec 2012 | #6 | |
JDPriestly | Dec 2012 | #13 | |
geek tragedy | Dec 2012 | #14 | |
JDPriestly | Dec 2012 | #15 | |
geek tragedy | Dec 2012 | #16 | |
snooper2 | Dec 2012 | #2 | |
dipsydoodle | Dec 2012 | #3 | |
byeya | Dec 2012 | #5 | |
geek tragedy | Dec 2012 | #8 | |
byeya | Dec 2012 | #4 | |
geek tragedy | Dec 2012 | #7 | |
vdogg | Dec 2012 | #9 | |
sofa king | Dec 2012 | #12 | |
bunnies | Dec 2012 | #10 | |
RedstDem | Dec 2012 | #11 |
Response to Purveyor (Original post)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 11:21 AM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
1. Shorter Netanyahu: Occupation now, occupation tomorrow, occupation forever. nt
Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:33 PM
R. Daneel Olivaw (12,606 posts)
6. Even shorter.
Steal, lie, steal more, give us money and fuck you. |
Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 03:47 PM
JDPriestly (57,936 posts)
13. Maybe Netanyahu is right.
“The curious thing is that most governments” that have looked at the settlement activity, “including the Palestinians themselves, as revealed in leaked documents, understand that these blocs, these arrangements, are going to be part of Israel in a final political settlement of peace,” Netanyahu said.
The final peace settlement may very well assign those areas to Israel. They have to negotiate. The sooner the better. If Palestine has not agreed to specific borders, how can they claim any land at all. Mexico could claim all of Southern California. They could refer to San Diego, Los Angeles and the rest as illegal settlements. Sorry. If Palestine wants to object to Israelis being in certain places, they need to negotiate definite borders. One people can't just claim to own land if another group of people is using it. Goes both ways. Borders have to be negotiated. Peace treaties have to be signed an enforced. |
Response to JDPriestly (Reply #13)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 04:28 PM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
14. The Israelis aren't willing to consider a Palestinian state, so there's really
nothing to negotiate. The Israelis figure that as long as the wall and iron dome prevent attacks inside Israel, there's no real problem in need of solving.
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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #14)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 11:14 PM
JDPriestly (57,936 posts)
15. You assume that Israel does not want a Palestinian state.
The US has agreed to a two-state solution. I don't think Israel has a choice. It is Palestine that has the choice. It is Palestine that doesn't move toward peace with a two-state solution. It is totally illogical to think that Israel would refuse to agree to safe borders for itself under an enforceable agreement with Palestinians.
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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #15)
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 12:07 AM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
16. Israel most certainly has a choice. The Palestinians have very little to offer the
Israelis in negotiations. There are virtually no terrorist attacks inside Israel any more. Israel has full spectrum dominance over the land, air, and most importantly ground water. They have the US government offering its unconditional support and loyalty.
The Israelis play along with the two-state charade for p.r. purposes--mainly to appease their trading partners in the EU. Israel has everything it wants. Resolving the Palestinian conflict is barely an issue there--just not worth the trouble to them. |
Response to Purveyor (Original post)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:11 PM
snooper2 (30,151 posts)
2. he is such a piece of fucking shit...
Response to Purveyor (Original post)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:13 PM
dipsydoodle (42,239 posts)
3. I have a feeling
that the next set from the EU could be to block importation of any goods whatsoever from Israel.
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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #3)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:15 PM
byeya (2,842 posts)
5. I think that that would be the next best step
Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #3)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:35 PM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
8. Next 10 steps will be more sternly worded letters. The Europeans are little better
than the Americans--lots of talk about seeking a peaceful resolution, but ultimately not willing to do anything about it.
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Response to Purveyor (Original post)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:14 PM
byeya (2,842 posts)
4. So let's hope President Obama stands up to him, his party and his followers and
withdraws all military contact with this sorry excuse of an ally and cuts off all aid.
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Response to byeya (Reply #4)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:34 PM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
7. Sorry, but Obama is going to do whatever Netanyahu wants him to do.
The US serves Israel.
That's the way our domestic political situation is. No getting around it. |
Response to Purveyor (Original post)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:52 PM
vdogg (1,384 posts)
9. So in other words
Netanyahu just said the equivalent of "we need breathing room" and does not sense the irony in that claim at all.
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Response to vdogg (Reply #9)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 01:16 PM
sofa king (10,857 posts)
12. Yes. Lecturing the German Chancellor on Lebensraum.
Welcome to DU, vdogg!
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Response to Purveyor (Original post)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:58 PM
bunnies (15,859 posts)
10. "are going to be part of Israel in a final political settlement of peace,”
Translation: All for me + none for you = peace. Whats all the fuss about?
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Response to Purveyor (Original post)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 01:11 PM
RedstDem (1,239 posts)
11. Good God Israel, Get rid of this warmonger
Yahoo is the worst leader in history, plz Israeli's get rid of this "man".
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