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demmiblue

(39,717 posts)
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 08:59 AM Aug 2024

Scoop: Trump stalled Black journalists interview over fact-checking

Source: Axios

Moments before former President Trump took the stage at the National Association of Black Journalists annual convention in Chicago on Wednesday, the organization's president was called back to address an issue.

Why it matters: Trump did not want to be fact-checked live and was refusing to go on stage, NABJ president Ken Lemon told Axios.

"[Trump's team] said, 'Well, can you not fact check? He's not going to take the stage if you fact-check,'" Lemon said.

The intrigue: The Q&A with the GOP presidential nominee was delayed more than an hour before he eventually joined a panel of Black journalists, including ABC News correspondent Rachel Scott, Fox News anchor Harris Faulkner and Semafor reporter Kadia Goba.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/2024/08/02/trump-nabj-fact-checking-black-journalists




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Scoop: Trump stalled Black journalists interview over fact-checking (Original Post) demmiblue Aug 2024 OP
He said 1 hour. Deliberately stalled 30 minutes. Pulled off the stage after 34 minutes. underpants Aug 2024 #1
AND he blamed the delay on... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #5
The host is responsible for it but remember he's beefed at the setup at his own cheap ass rallies underpants Aug 2024 #8
No, the ABC journalist who was hosting the interview... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #11
Okay. As part of the host organization is what I meant underpants Aug 2024 #12
You can see on the interview that... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #13
No happy feet Aug 2024 #23
You can both be right. mahina Aug 2024 #35
And pretended he couldn't hear one member of the panel, complaining about their tech Attilatheblond Aug 2024 #18
Alternate reality krkaufman Aug 2024 #20
Yup and stalls for time happy feet Aug 2024 #24
Sometimes, not just a stall, but to interrupt and change the subject Attilatheblond Aug 2024 #37
Lemon was warned and his co-Chair resigned after she said that she wasn't consulted about the decision BumRushDaShow Aug 2024 #2
What were they expecting? krkaufman Aug 2024 #21
I think the bulk of them knew BumRushDaShow Aug 2024 #26
Not a scoop. I read that the evening of NABJ. sinkingfeeling Aug 2024 #3
Everything TSF does must be staged, scripted. gab13by13 Aug 2024 #4
Yes I wonder if that is the deal for all his "interviews" tetedur Aug 2024 #7
Not usually an issue krkaufman Aug 2024 #22
Spread this EVERYWHERE. Jirel Aug 2024 #6
YOU CAN'T TELL THEM I'M LYING! IT'S ALL I KNOW HOW TO DO! Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2024 #9
MAGAts can't tolerate accountability. House of Roberts Aug 2024 #10
Facts have a well known liberal bias IronLionZion Aug 2024 #14
If he does debate Kamala, lie to him...NO FACT CHECKING KS Toronado Aug 2024 #15
It's amazing how most journalist agree Farmer-Rick Aug 2024 #16
If anyone ever asked him about Epstein and child rape.... AZ8theist Aug 2024 #34
Get him on the stage and then fact check him anyway. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2024 #17
This was all reported in real time relayerbob Aug 2024 #19
This just demonstrates that every lie out of Chump's mouth is intentional FakeNoose Aug 2024 #25
Assertion of perceived privilege bucolic_frolic Aug 2024 #27
DJt wanted this event to be his unfiltered lie tsunami, like the last 'debate' Jrose Aug 2024 #28
Not a 'SCOOP' by Axios. It was reported 2 days ago.... sinkingfeeling Aug 2024 #29
TFG can not deal with facts and fact-checkers LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #30
TFG refused to take the stage until the conference committee agreed to not fact check him live. LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #31
Hate to say it Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #32
Oh--And I'm sick of the modern media Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #33
Recording that wrangling would have been a nice idea.. ShazzieB Aug 2024 #36
Those 3 women journalists should speak up RussBLib Aug 2024 #38
Stupid fuck didn't even answer their questions. D23MIURG23 Aug 2024 #39
Not wanting to be fact-checked is perfectly understandable, especially... Martin Eden Aug 2024 #40
 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
5. AND he blamed the delay on...
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:23 AM
Aug 2024

...the equipment he said the host was responsible for (somehow).

underpants

(196,489 posts)
8. The host is responsible for it but remember he's beefed at the setup at his own cheap ass rallies
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:33 AM
Aug 2024

Twice in a row. One was the podium. I think the other was the teleprompter or sound.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
11. No, the ABC journalist who was hosting the interview...
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:43 AM
Aug 2024

...is not responsible for the equipment.

Not one but two unions would raise hell if she were.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
13. You can see on the interview that...
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:52 AM
Aug 2024

trump directly blames the ABC journalist hosting the interview personally for the equipment.

happy feet

(1,278 posts)
23. No
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:31 AM
Aug 2024

The setup was contracted operationally to the Hilton hotel's A/V vendor provided.

NABJ works with the provided vendor but was not responsible for any inoperation of the AV.

mahina

(20,645 posts)
35. You can both be right.
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 01:23 PM
Aug 2024

Once again Trump just flat out lied and assumed nobody would know.

No wonder he was so pissy!

This alone could cost him the election.

Attilatheblond

(8,876 posts)
18. And pretended he couldn't hear one member of the panel, complaining about their tech
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:03 AM
Aug 2024

When he was just refusing to answer her clearly spoken question.

He NEVER takes responsibility for ANYTHING, and always changes subject rather than answer fair questions. Avoids by attacking.

krkaufman

(13,961 posts)
20. Alternate reality
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:24 AM
Aug 2024

Would have been lovely if that “journalist” had stood up and walked over to him and raised her voice to repeat the question, as one might do for an elderly relative with hearing loss. Closing with, “did you hear that, Grandpa?” would have been a bonus.

Attilatheblond

(8,876 posts)
37. Sometimes, not just a stall, but to interrupt and change the subject
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 03:06 PM
Aug 2024

usually with an attack on the person asking the question.

BumRushDaShow

(169,708 posts)
2. Lemon was warned and his co-Chair resigned after she said that she wasn't consulted about the decision
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:09 AM
Aug 2024

As my mother would often say - "A hard head makes a soft behind".

krkaufman

(13,961 posts)
21. What were they expecting?
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:29 AM
Aug 2024

How could so-called “journalists” be surprised by any of this? I had to shake my head at the panelist who expressed surprise at Trump directly attacking those asking him questions. Have they all just awakened from 8-year comas?

BumRushDaShow

(169,708 posts)
26. I think the bulk of them knew
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:37 AM
Aug 2024

but you will always have some who probably thought that they could "control the narrative".

Many of us have seen who among that group, are part of the White House correspondents and/or were assigned to a pool that attended any briefings/press conferences (whatever ones they had before completely shutting them down during the latter parts of his time in office) and/or who followed his previous 2 campaigns... and they know better (but obviously weren't listened to).

tetedur

(1,418 posts)
7. Yes I wonder if that is the deal for all his "interviews"
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:31 AM
Aug 2024

Last edited Fri Aug 2, 2024, 10:42 AM - Edit history (1)

and that would be why no one pushes back when he spouts his stupid lies.

krkaufman

(13,961 posts)
22. Not usually an issue
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:30 AM
Aug 2024

I doubt it’s much of an issue, usually, since he only seems to allow interviews with Fox News and even nuttier outlets.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
9. YOU CAN'T TELL THEM I'M LYING! IT'S ALL I KNOW HOW TO DO!
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:36 AM
Aug 2024

traitortrump minus lying equals bad hair

House of Roberts

(6,521 posts)
10. MAGAts can't tolerate accountability.
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:39 AM
Aug 2024

Being held responsible for their lies scares them too much.

IronLionZion

(51,267 posts)
14. Facts have a well known liberal bias
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:52 AM
Aug 2024

that's why Republicans use alternative facts that should never be checked.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
15. If he does debate Kamala, lie to him...NO FACT CHECKING
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 10:07 AM
Aug 2024

I mean damn he lies all the time and demands to get by with it. Why can't we word agreements with
very fine small print?

Farmer-Rick

(12,663 posts)
16. It's amazing how most journalist agree
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 10:10 AM
Aug 2024

To selling out the truth. Is that even considered journalism without the facts?

So, it looks like no one agreed to letting pedo Trump lie. (God how I wished they would have asked him about palling around with Epstein.)

He just went on and lied anyway. But at least they were ready to fact check him. He didn't stay long enough to be held to account.

AZ8theist

(7,370 posts)
34. If anyone ever asked him about Epstein and child rape....
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 01:10 PM
Aug 2024

....he would just whine "That's a very nasty question and you're a nasty person!!"

That's his MO. Simply a vile, imbecilic, pathological lying asshole.

17. Get him on the stage and then fact check him anyway.
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 10:42 AM
Aug 2024

He'll throw a tantrum and probably stomp off the stage (which his handlers did anyway, halfway through the event). Then he'll whine about "fake news."

What I learned in Journalism 101: "If they don't want you to report it, it's news. If they do want you to write about it, it's propaganda."

relayerbob

(7,428 posts)
19. This was all reported in real time
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:16 AM
Aug 2024

Axios is trying to play the scoop card? Anything for some clicks, I suppose.

FakeNoose

(41,622 posts)
25. This just demonstrates that every lie out of Chump's mouth is intentional
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:35 AM
Aug 2024

When someone "misspeaks" and then later corrects himself, well I guess we can say it wasn't an intentional lie. It was just an error. But with Chump we know it's all intentional, and this is the proof.

He doesn't want to be called a liar to his face, during the interview. No that would be too embarrassing. He wants to insult and berate these Black female journalists to THEIR faces and not get called out.

Why do journalists of any color accept HIS rules? I don't get it, they're allowing Chump to use them and project his bulls**t out to their audiences. And they can't even call out his constant lies. American journalists please STOP giving Chump the free TV time. He has shown time and again that he doesn't deserve it.

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
32. Hate to say it
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 12:58 PM
Aug 2024

But this is a complete fail on the part of NABJ.

Why didn't someone start recording or turning on some mics to go live with that wrangling about no fact-checking?

And why didn't they respond with, 'We gain nothing from not fact-checking. It's what good journalists do. If he's so against honest questioning that he refuses to go onstage, then we will go out there and announce that he's refused to appear, because he doesn't want to tell the truth. So take your scared little boy and run away like the cowards you are, while we go do our jobs with our heads held high.'

*Either* tactic would have resulted in a huge story.

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
33. Oh--And I'm sick of the modern media
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 01:05 PM
Aug 2024

Letting that idiot control all of the narrative because they care more about future access than about reporting facts.

The US media is so very stupid that they refuse to grasp that they *do not need him nearly as much as he needs them.* Without the media, he's just another two-bit schmuck languishing in obscurity or jail. The media can and does survive without him. They can make him or break him, but he can't do that to them unless they continue to be an accessory to his grab for power. Then they'll learn that someone can break them, in ways they don't even want to think about.

They need to wake up and start doing their jobs. It's been at least 40 years since they've had a clue what it is.

ShazzieB

(22,582 posts)
36. Recording that wrangling would have been a nice idea..
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 01:35 PM
Aug 2024

...but calling that a complete fail for NABJ seems a bit much to me. Sure, we would all love to have been able to hear a recording of what he was saying backstage, but the interview itself was a complete fail for Trump. He made an absolute ass of himself and has been skewered over it, repeatedly.

Overall, I think the event was a win for NABJ.

RussBLib

(10,635 posts)
38. Those 3 women journalists should speak up
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 03:35 PM
Aug 2024

...maybe as a group, to make it clear the fact-checking issue is why he started late, not some made-up bs about equipment failure.

Fact-check, indeed.

https://russblib.blogspot.com/?m=1

D23MIURG23

(3,138 posts)
39. Stupid fuck didn't even answer their questions.
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 06:22 PM
Aug 2024

I don't know even know why it mattered to him. All he ever does is shit on people and lie through his teeth. Anyone w half a brain knows he lies every time he opens his mouth.

Martin Eden

(15,622 posts)
40. Not wanting to be fact-checked is perfectly understandable, especially...
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 08:09 PM
Aug 2024

...for a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

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