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BumRushDaShow

(169,741 posts)
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 03:09 PM Aug 2024

Trump says he has agreed to offer from ABC News to debate Harris

Last edited Thu Aug 8, 2024, 06:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: ABC News

August 8, 2024, 5:06 PM


Former President Donald Trump says he has agreed to an offer from ABC News to debate Vice President Kamala Harris on Sept. 10. Trump said so during a news conference at his Mar-a-Lago Club on Thursday.

Harris also confirmed her participation in the debate.

Trump previously said he had been willing to go toe-to-toe with President Joe Biden and agreed to ABC's first invitation issued in May.

However, after Biden dropped out of the race last month and Harris became the presumptive Democratic nominee, Trump had implied he would not debate Harris on ABC. Harris has accused Trump of "running scared" and trying to back out of the debate.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-agreed-offer-abc-news-debate-harris/story?id=112685962



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Original article -

August 8, 2024, 2:45 PM


Former President Donald Trump says he has agreed to an offer from ABC News to debate Vice President Kamala Harris on Sept. 10. Trump said so during a news conference at his Mar-a-Lago Club on Thursday.

Trump previously said he had been willing to go toe-to-toe with President Joe Biden and agreed to ABC's first invitation issued in May.

However, after Biden dropped out of the race last month and Harris became the presumptive Democratic nominee, Trump had implied he would not debate Harris on ABC.

Harris has accused Trump of "running scared" and trying to back out of the debate.


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Trump says he has agreed to offer from ABC News to debate Harris (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 2024 OP
I am listening to the conference right now. Trump mentioned 3 debates, LauraInLA Aug 2024 #1
Ok, his campaign says he misspoke. First would come Fox on 9/4, then ABC on 9/10, LauraInLA Aug 2024 #2
I still say she should refuse Fox. BlueKota Aug 2024 #5
I agree, but I think then she'd also have to refuse NBC. Just stick to the original on ABC. LauraInLA Aug 2024 #6
That would be best BlueKota Aug 2024 #8
Agreed VeryProgressive Aug 2024 #28
Absolutely no to FOX. NH Ethylene Aug 2024 #13
Right -- and NO other debates should take place PRIOR to ABC's on 9/10 Rocknation Aug 2024 #41
He can claim all he wants BumRushDaShow Aug 2024 #4
I hope they didn't make any concessions BlueKota Aug 2024 #3
Kamala Knows How to Negotiate NonPC Aug 2024 #16
Interesting 3auld6phart Aug 2024 #7
My opinion here. bluestarone Aug 2024 #9
Exactly! cayugafalls Aug 2024 #11
Yes, FOX can not be the first one. chomper Aug 2024 #27
You have to remember Trump's #1 goal liberalmediaaddict Aug 2024 #10
The difference is... orwell Aug 2024 #38
It's ON ColinC Aug 2024 #12
Harris campaign must demand a new debate rule change sanevoiceus Aug 2024 #14
Said The Same Recently ProfessorGAC Aug 2024 #37
If it has to be on Fox, I think there should be a couple of modifications ... ificandream Aug 2024 #15
Will there be real time fact checking? Lunabell Aug 2024 #17
Harris' campaign has Mr. trump reacting rather than acting Torchlight Aug 2024 #18
Of Course He Did DallasNE Aug 2024 #19
He is not running behind in all polls. former9thward Aug 2024 #21
I Left Out "Consolidator". DallasNE Aug 2024 #23
She's made big jumps since she got in the race. ificandream Aug 2024 #31
Hopefully there will be an audience of potential voters The Grand Illuminist Aug 2024 #20
Biden insisted on no audience for his. former9thward Aug 2024 #22
If magas are in the audience, it'll be bad. ificandream Aug 2024 #32
I disagree. Cheering sections render any "debate" totally unserious. PSPS Aug 2024 #42
Okay on Fox if Ojerly Aug 2024 #24
No. Ansolutely no Fox. They are just a MAGA propaganda machine.. wnylib Aug 2024 #34
"We do ABC first, THEN we'll consider more" Wonder Why Aug 2024 #25
5,000 recs! fierywoman Aug 2024 #29
Great opportunity.. Escape Aug 2024 #26
Fox is an opportunity jujubeets Aug 2024 #30
Steal votes from Fox viewers? Extremely unlikely wnylib Aug 2024 #35
Are they negotiating the conditions? onandup Aug 2024 #33
Fox "News" are proven liars and unfit to host a presidential debate Mysterian Aug 2024 #36
Does this debate include mic muting to prevent Trump from doing the same stunt he pulled on Hillary? cstanleytech Aug 2024 #39
Still no Debates Desert Dog Aug 2024 #40
Even ABC has forgotten that Trump did not previously agree to debate Biden, but to debate any qualified candidate Ramsey Barner Aug 2024 #43

LauraInLA

(2,248 posts)
1. I am listening to the conference right now. Trump mentioned 3 debates,
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 03:12 PM
Aug 2024

on Fox, NBC, and ABC. I believe he said ABC wouldn’t happen until the end of September, but maybe I misheard or he misspoke.

LauraInLA

(2,248 posts)
2. Ok, his campaign says he misspoke. First would come Fox on 9/4, then ABC on 9/10,
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 03:14 PM
Aug 2024

then NBC on 9/26 — if Kamala agrees to all 3.

LauraInLA

(2,248 posts)
6. I agree, but I think then she'd also have to refuse NBC. Just stick to the original on ABC.
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 03:17 PM
Aug 2024

VeryProgressive

(77 posts)
28. Agreed
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 06:02 PM
Aug 2024

Debates with him in general are worthless. He doesn't answer the questions and spends most of his time bloviating.

Rocknation

(45,006 posts)
41. Right -- and NO other debates should take place PRIOR to ABC's on 9/10
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 09:58 PM
Aug 2024

Last edited Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:00 AM - Edit history (1)

So he blinked his orange eyebrows, huh?


Rocknation

BumRushDaShow

(169,741 posts)
4. He can claim all he wants
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 03:15 PM
Aug 2024

He doesn't "dictate the terms".

He had originally agreed to a CNN and ABC debate and has been trying to get out of the ABC one since Biden dropped out, and has now been trying to create something that he can control.

BlueKota

(5,343 posts)
3. I hope they didn't make any concessions
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 03:14 PM
Aug 2024

to appease the baby butt head, to get him to agree. Like throwing him softball questions and allowing him to scream over her answers.

NonPC

(405 posts)
16. Kamala Knows How to Negotiate
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 03:41 PM
Aug 2024

She knows he's so twisted up, that she is just sticking to ABC as scheduled, and letting him twist in the wind and negotiate with himself. She's in no hurry to work with him. Kamala is in the driver's seat, and her response will be strategic. Be patient. Wait for it.

3auld6phart

(1,683 posts)
7. Interesting
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 03:18 PM
Aug 2024

Let’s see what zdonnie the Dodger foes this time.he knows he is defeated, it just hasn’t sunk into self centred brain.

bluestarone

(22,177 posts)
9. My opinion here.
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 03:22 PM
Aug 2024

If Fox is the first debate, There will be no more! He will refuse the next two.

chomper

(124 posts)
27. Yes, FOX can not be the first one.
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 05:53 PM
Aug 2024

Because once Fox debate is over he will not do the other debates.

liberalmediaaddict

(998 posts)
10. You have to remember Trump's #1 goal
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 03:25 PM
Aug 2024

The main reason he's running for President and is so desperate to get back in the White House is to avoid going to prison.

If he fails he's facing more criminal prosecutions and possible financial ruin because of the hundreds of civil cases filed against him.

There's nothing he won't do or say to become President again. The next 3 months is going to make Trump's 2016 and 2020 campaigns look tame.

And like President Biden said if Trump loses he won't agree to a peaceful transfer of power. We may not be truly free from this fascist criminal's reign of terror until January of 2025.

orwell

(8,003 posts)
38. The difference is...
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 07:43 PM
Aug 2024

...he is not the sitting president so he has no control of the transfer of power.

It's a totally different situation.

sanevoiceus

(17 posts)
14. Harris campaign must demand a new debate rule change
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 03:30 PM
Aug 2024

Harris campaign must demand a new rule change for any future debate. Since Trump lies like a human breathes, either moderators should fact check Trump's falsehoods in real time or Harris be given extra time for fact checking before she starts her rebuttal.

ProfessorGAC

(76,695 posts)
37. Said The Same Recently
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 07:22 PM
Aug 2024

A condition of participation should be real-time fact checking.
It's an easy PR move, too. "People who have facts & tell the truth don't fear fact checking. On the other hand..."

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
15. If it has to be on Fox, I think there should be a couple of modifications ...
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 03:37 PM
Aug 2024

One is no audience. Another is there needs to be another questioner besides the Fox stooges. Another is no "special guests" like Trump pulled with the Clinton debate.

Torchlight

(6,824 posts)
18. Harris' campaign has Mr. trump reacting rather than acting
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 04:11 PM
Aug 2024

He's reduced to only feinting and countering to avoid the hits he's been pummeled with over this summer. His campaign shows no indication of taking any initiative anymore, and looks to be spending all of its time reacting and trying to play catch-up (or play ketch-up, depending on the mood he's in and if his gourmet meal was original or extra-spicy).

Not only has his cheese slid off his cracker, his steam ain't even runnin' the loco.

DallasNE

(8,008 posts)
19. Of Course He Did
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 04:17 PM
Aug 2024

He is now running behind in all of the polls and this is one way he hopes to be able to catch up and Harris has all of the momentum. The debate is scheduled for 1 day before sentencing is announced in the hush money trial.

DallasNE

(8,008 posts)
23. I Left Out "Consolidator".
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 04:53 PM
Aug 2024

The consolidator polls are the average of all polls, such as Realclearpolitics. I believe there are 3 of those and all of them have Harris ahead at least slightly. But you are right that some of the individual polls still show Trump with a slim lead while one today shows Harris ahead by 6 points - I'm not on board with that one yet. I say that because the difference in energy levels right now is massive and that translates into crowd size and eventually votes.

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
31. She's made big jumps since she got in the race.
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 06:50 PM
Aug 2024

Problem with the pundits and the networks is that they want a monumental jump to report on otherwise they can't handle it. All in good time, my dears. All in good time. (Get the orange jumpsuit ready, Don-old.)

The Grand Illuminist

(2,040 posts)
20. Hopefully there will be an audience of potential voters
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 04:26 PM
Aug 2024

Democrats do very well on debates with an audience.

Ojerly

(100 posts)
24. Okay on Fox if
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 05:28 PM
Aug 2024

Same rules as ABC, mic controls, etc.
But Harris should insist on Jessica Tarlov as a real time fact checked.

Escape

(469 posts)
26. Great opportunity..
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 05:50 PM
Aug 2024

to just say "NO'.

And then to explain that Fox News is a propaganda network and not a legitimate news source.

 

jujubeets

(80 posts)
30. Fox is an opportunity
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 06:15 PM
Aug 2024

To steal some votes when they see her wipe the floor with him. And those repukes will just say she would only show up when she got the questions in advance if she only does ABC.

This is a great opportunity. I'm excited to see cheato lose!

wnylib

(26,009 posts)
35. Steal votes from Fox viewers? Extremely unlikely
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 07:00 PM
Aug 2024

with the Fox MAGA propaganda machine.

Not necessary, either. We can win by getting our own voters out to the polls and by picking up Independents.

 

onandup

(701 posts)
33. Are they negotiating the conditions?
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 06:52 PM
Aug 2024

Some might disagree, but I liked the ones in the first debate. Namely no audience and cutting off mics.

Mysterian

(6,482 posts)
36. Fox "News" are proven liars and unfit to host a presidential debate
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 07:17 PM
Aug 2024

It's time for everyone to refuse to do anything with this vile pack of liars.

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
39. Does this debate include mic muting to prevent Trump from doing the same stunt he pulled on Hillary?
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 08:45 PM
Aug 2024

Not to mention a moderator that will actually do their damn job and challenge any claims by either of them rather than sit on their ass.

Desert Dog

(95 posts)
40. Still no Debates
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 09:42 PM
Aug 2024

I think this is more desperate posturing.

Regardless of VP Harris decline (or if she ignores it), Trump and Fox will pretend their debate is on. Big set up. Empty podium. Key is their earlier date. They will sell it as she backed out.

Then Orange Foolius cancels the following week as retribution- negating his ABC cancellation and their empty podium plans. He doesn't want to debate. As delusional as he is, i think he knows that he risks extreme failure.

If it goes, ABC fact checking is going to eviscerate him. VP Harris should be ready to work the liar angle (to sync up to what the public is seeing). Rump is the biggest liar in history. It just never stops. How can anybody trust anything he says? He is the supposed Billionaire with all the bankruptcies and he is ALWAYS begging for more money.

If he shows up for ABC debate without Fox, then Trump is desperate and needs to win. If he is cooking up another coup plan and only needs to stay close, then he might not think he needs any debates. I am convinced one of the reasons Trump is soo sure he was robbed in 2020 is that he had his own cheating plan. Something happened. It did not work or it wasn't enough. Thus he thinks he was out cheated. Always projection with that troll.

VP Harris need to make the case that only she can end the lies and hate. She is the only one who can move us toward a new future. Time to turn the page and GET ON WITH IT.

Ramsey Barner

(669 posts)
43. Even ABC has forgotten that Trump did not previously agree to debate Biden, but to debate any qualified candidate
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 06:31 AM
Aug 2024

So Trump's lie that he agreed to debate Biden, not Harris, has already been papered over.

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