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Ramsey Barner

(669 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 07:56 PM Aug 2024

Trump Claims He Has Helicopter Trip Records and Threatens to Sue

Source: New York Times

Former President Donald J. Trump on Friday afternoon vehemently maintained that he had once been in a dangerous helicopter landing with Willie Brown, the former mayor of San Francisco, and insisted he had records to prove it, despite Mr. Brown’s denial.


In an angry phone call to a New York Times reporter as he landed several hours away from his planned rally in Bozeman, Mont., because of a mechanical issue on his plane, Mr. Trump excoriated The Times for its coverage of his meandering news conference on Thursday at Mar-a-Lago, his private club and home, during which he told of an emergency landing during a helicopter trip that he said both he and Mr. Brown had made together.


When asked to produce the flight records, Mr. Trump responded mockingly, repeating the request in a sing-song voice. As of early Friday evening, he had not provided them.

Mr. Trump has a history of claiming he will provide evidence to back up his claims but ultimately not doing so.




Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/09/us/politics/trump-helicopter-landing.html
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Trump Claims He Has Helicopter Trip Records and Threatens to Sue (Original Post) Ramsey Barner Aug 2024 OP
Don't worry... BrianTheEVGuy Aug 2024 #1
They exist! Stuffed in the sofa, hidden under the couch sanatanadharma Aug 2024 #9
There is a J D Vance joke cojoel Aug 2024 #12
pages got stuck together, perhaps? quakerboy Aug 2024 #24
Eeew Seinan Sensei Aug 2024 #63
Wrong state quakerboy Aug 2024 #146
Was it a sexional sofa? Bo Zarts Aug 2024 #68
Top brand is not called LoveSac for nothin'! ;-) consider_this Aug 2024 #99
How about this? Mr. Mustard 2023 Aug 2024 #108
Is that the same box his "investigators" store Obama's ACTUAL birth certificate? AZ8theist Aug 2024 #47
It has the birth certificate, yes BrianTheEVGuy Aug 2024 #119
You forgot Soros.... AZ8theist Aug 2024 #122
I didn't BrianTheEVGuy Aug 2024 #123
There are reports that he will provide these records next Tuesday. Permanut Aug 2024 #88
If you loan him Mr. Mustard 2023 Aug 2024 #110
Absolutely BrianTheEVGuy Aug 2024 #118
Well, go ahead, angry guy. badhair77 Aug 2024 #2
I'd love to see this lawsuit too. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #29
Who is the defendant? Willie Brown? Marcuse Aug 2024 #40
New York Times, helicopter, Willie Brown, Jerry Brown. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #41
and the cloud that old man Trump is yelling at DBoon Aug 2024 #132
I don't know why,. but I burst out laughing at your comment and I can't stop. I must be punch drunk from these NBachers Aug 2024 #75
Ditto I live in SF also and have never heard that story kimbutgar Aug 2024 #125
Does he actually pay the Lawyers? or: Paper Roses Aug 2024 #129
It Would Be A Nice Touch To The Season The Magistrate Aug 2024 #3
Right, suing the people who are helping him cheat to win. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #30
The NYTimes is "cheating" with alot DENVERPOPS Aug 2024 #46
I cancelled the NYT some time ago. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #91
I don't click on their links ...nt ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 2024 #134
Definition of chutzpah... BattleRow Aug 2024 #66
He cuts his nose off to spite his face. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #92
But who and what would BattleRow Aug 2024 #109
The dumb, lying bastard got called on an obviously made up story and doesn't know... brush Aug 2024 #4
The same way he handles most things.... He lies some more. keithbvadu2 Aug 2024 #13
Yep, a mile a minute. He knows how to rattle 'em off. The one thing he's expert at. brush Aug 2024 #17
Lawsuits - that's Chump's go-to answer for everything FakeNoose Aug 2024 #33
Did Willie turn... orwell Aug 2024 #38
"Someone should look into that" PSPS Aug 2024 #72
Comer & Jordan... orwell Aug 2024 #79
Powerful personality. He ran the whole state for years. quaint Aug 2024 #98
It's what he does. brush Aug 2024 #126
It was all in service to his fictional gossip.. Eyeball_Kid Aug 2024 #117
I hope he gets the side effects I did when I took them ...nt ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 2024 #136
please let there be tapes of this call PedroXimenez Aug 2024 #5
He'll provide the records as soon as he finds his Sharpie. QED Aug 2024 #6
I am sure in two weeks. Bev54 Aug 2024 #25
Beat me to it. SilasSouleII Aug 2024 #51
"In a sing song voice?" BlueKota Aug 2024 #7
Yes this is my read as well. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #31
It's scary how many people BlueKota Aug 2024 #62
Yes exactly. Why might this be? Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #93
#5 & most likely; he is a cult leader. Look at Scientologists. oldsoftie Aug 2024 #113
Agreed BlueKota Aug 2024 #114
Like this?: AZ8theist Aug 2024 #55
Exactly like this BlueKota Aug 2024 #61
Already happened. generalbetrayus Aug 2024 #84
He's delusional and if the media is worth half a shit they will be on this proof that Trump is GONE!! bullimiami Aug 2024 #8
Not likely DENVERPOPS Aug 2024 #49
There you have the explanation. Jirel Aug 2024 #10
(aide to pilot) "Can you circle for awhile? The shots not kicked in yet." ...nt ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 2024 #137
He also has proof that dead people voted. tetedur Aug 2024 #11
that Obama was born in Kenya n/t PedroXimenez Aug 2024 #45
I have the records of his trip. On my old 78rpm platters but they're classified records. Wonder Why Aug 2024 #14
What a lying sack of shit. And a tenuous (very tenuous) grasp on reality. He is toast. Evolve Dammit Aug 2024 #15
Pretty Sure The Flight Was With Frederick Douglass Ursus Arctos Aug 2024 #16
It was in a Douglass DC-3 Ramsey Barner Aug 2024 #18
SMH at that one 😭...nt ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 2024 #138
At one of Donald's Revolutionary War airports keithbvadu2 Aug 2024 #22
DUzy subthread! Pinback Aug 2024 #64
Calling the reporter makes it impossible for the NYT to ignore the story Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #19
I hear legal genius Alina Habba is available... agingdem Aug 2024 #20
I'd love to hear her defend this story. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #32
What a dipshit. catbyte Aug 2024 #21
Asshole's flying around in a broken plane and rents out the spare rooms in his own house. Give me a break ;) n/t Cheezoholic Aug 2024 #23
Willy Brown was on CNN calling him a liar JohnSJ Aug 2024 #26
He has always been a weirdo. madaboutharry Aug 2024 #27
I just wonder how bad it will have to get... ShazzieB Aug 2024 #57
Mar-a-Lago "presser"? BattleRow Aug 2024 #65
Some reporter needs to ask about all the stankin'. Haggard Celine Aug 2024 #148
Simple question. Are his lips moving? paleotn Aug 2024 #28
Whoever does Trump's daily nose job to trim it down must a millionaire by now. cstanleytech Aug 2024 #34
I'm sure he has it tucked away in the same place as his taxes, proof that Melania was here legally tulipsandroses Aug 2024 #35
Can't have what doesn't exist, Donny. Someone needs to tell him that horse left the barn already. Ford_Prefect Aug 2024 #36
He has the records... orwell Aug 2024 #37
He isn't in court enough? Cadfael Aug 2024 #39
Go ahead and sue, Skippy. no_hypocrisy Aug 2024 #42
Sanctions and court costs, but no, not 3X damages Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #50
New Jersey is treble damages. no_hypocrisy Aug 2024 #90
Wonder if he ever heard of BattleRow Aug 2024 #120
Thanks, but we all know you are a liar Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #43
I'm wondering why he would lie about something like that. Catherine Vincent Aug 2024 #44
Really? Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #59
Yeah, he's compulsive GopherGal Aug 2024 #124
He lied about being responsible for John McCain's furneral. sarge43 Aug 2024 #145
I think he confused Willy Brown with Jerry Brown because they share the same last name. subterranean Aug 2024 #74
It's a backhand way to discredit Kamala Harris. John1956PA Aug 2024 #81
My guess is he's not lying, per se, this is what he thinks he remembers happened. mucholderthandirt Aug 2024 #94
I bet when reporters ask him Figarosmom Aug 2024 #48
The Liar is just so used to getting away with it that he just doesn't realize that there is usually an evidence trail. Martin68 Aug 2024 #52
He will produce proof "in two weeks" Klarkashton Aug 2024 #53
That's funny... Zambero Aug 2024 #54
I'm sure Melania will provide the records when she has her "little news conference" rsdsharp Aug 2024 #56
Maybe Traildogbob Aug 2024 #58
Who is he going to sue? The Times? Willie Brown? onenote Aug 2024 #60
'Look!' says Donnie Aussie105 Aug 2024 #67
Nate Holden, not Willie Brown bmichaelh Aug 2024 #69
so the part about Kamala is now proven bullshit. uncle ray Aug 2024 #73
I don't think he said Willie mentioned Harris on that flight. I thought so too originally... Self Esteem Aug 2024 #86
Old Nate is 95 and has a better memory than the most self-cognitive President (in his own mind) that we've ever had? OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2024 #78
"I guess we all look alike." -- Nate Holden Iggo Aug 2024 #149
Another glitch in the ol' mainframe. JohnnyRingo Aug 2024 #70
Any intelligent and insightful person with a clear perception of the current situation Aussie105 Aug 2024 #71
Well, we do know how meticulous he is about keeping important documents. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #76
Welcome to Browngate NBachers Aug 2024 #77
He just made a simple mistake.... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #80
I've never known drumpf to admit he was wrong about anything JoseBalow Aug 2024 #82
I'm with Trump on this one. He needs to double down and devote a lot of time to prove he had a Doodley Aug 2024 #83
It sounds like he was confusing Willie Brown with Nate Holden, who was a Black councilman from Los Angeles. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #85
Mr. Trump helped run Brian Williams Tweedy Aug 2024 #87
It appears it would have been wiser for him to have John Barron make that KPN Aug 2024 #89
Boy's Gone Crazy jayschool2013 Aug 2024 #95
Lotta mouth. No proof. Gee, what's new? Kid Berwyn Aug 2024 #96
He's doubling down on something that never happened. mwb970 Aug 2024 #97
Anybody else catch Trump's racist remark quoted in the Politico piece about Nate Holden (cited above)? Ramsey Barner Aug 2024 #100
I visited the "A" wing once a week for ten years. Everyone was mentally impaired. twodogsbarking Aug 2024 #101
I'll bet those "records"... GiqueCee Aug 2024 #102
Like Al Capone, his brain is rotting from syphilis IronLionZion Aug 2024 #103
Another day, another lie... dlk Aug 2024 #104
I got claims right over here, too! Brainfodder Aug 2024 #105
Go ahead and sue Donny Botany Aug 2024 #106
Bluff called, GreenWave Aug 2024 #107
It has been verified that the incident NEVER occurred with Willie Brown. It wa another person. Where is the media JohnSJ Aug 2024 #111
Mr. Trump has a history of claiming he will provide evidence to back up his claims but ultimately not doing so. twodogsbarking Aug 2024 #112
Spew bullshit, threaten to sue. Rinse. Repeat. marmar Aug 2024 #115
Say it all at once: "DISCOVERY!!!" LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2024 #116
Discovery can reveal BattleRow Aug 2024 #121
Blah, blah, blah. Martin68 Aug 2024 #127
Probably was an Epstein helicopter flight to Minor's Island. The Unmitigated Gall Aug 2024 #128
The emergency landing happened but not with Willie Brown Ritabert Aug 2024 #130
Records edited with a Sharpie. Sneederbunk Aug 2024 #131
Yeah, right Mysterian Aug 2024 #133
Wow, this was the NYT? I guess that reporter isn't getting a raise. nilram Aug 2024 #135
How in the hell did we make it through 4 years of this clown? C Moon Aug 2024 #139
I'm sorry sir those records have been flagged Blue Owl Aug 2024 #140
He can claim lots of things. Old Crank Aug 2024 #141
i'm still waiting for that "long form" birth certificate. whatever the hell that is. rampartd Aug 2024 #142
They're probably buried in his ex-wives cemetery with the TBF Aug 2024 #143
He was with Nate Holden instead. So there is that. Klarkashton Aug 2024 #144
People are saying that they're Politicub Aug 2024 #147
I love this line: creeksneakers2 Aug 2024 #150

BrianTheEVGuy

(697 posts)
1. Don't worry...
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 07:58 PM
Aug 2024

Mike Lindell has the records, they're in the same box where he keeps the indisputable proof that the election was stolen. Sadly, it's been misplaced.

But they exist, believe me!

sanatanadharma

(4,089 posts)
9. They exist! Stuffed in the sofa, hidden under the couch
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:09 PM
Aug 2024

However, he made the evidence confidential and top-secret in his mind; mangled and shredded and making no sense when strung together.

Mr. Mustard 2023

(361 posts)
108. How about this?
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 09:37 AM
Aug 2024

"The NYT questioning Dear Leader enraged (weirdo) J. D. Vance, who declared he will get revenge against the New York Times by enacting a federal abortion ban".

(Because all creepy Vance seems to care about is controlling women.)

I tried.

AZ8theist

(7,372 posts)
47. Is that the same box his "investigators" store Obama's ACTUAL birth certificate?
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:52 PM
Aug 2024

..many, MANY people know this!!!

BrianTheEVGuy

(697 posts)
119. It has the birth certificate, yes
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 11:40 AM
Aug 2024

And it also has the tax records for the Trump Organization that prove the criminal convictions of Trump were all a Communist Wall Street Illegal Immigrants Rothschild House of Windsor conspiracy against Trump -- who is innocent and highly ethical.

Irish_Dem

(81,262 posts)
41. New York Times, helicopter, Willie Brown, Jerry Brown.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:34 PM
Aug 2024

The tree outside his window.

Who knows.

NBachers

(19,438 posts)
75. I don't know why,. but I burst out laughing at your comment and I can't stop. I must be punch drunk from these
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:55 AM
Aug 2024

other-dimensional events we're living through.

I'm in San Francisco, so this whole Willie Brown thing I find quite entertaining.

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
125. Ditto I live in SF also and have never heard that story
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:07 PM
Aug 2024

Willie Brown was on the local news yesterday and said it never happened.

Paper Roses

(7,632 posts)
129. Does he actually pay the Lawyers? or:
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:16 PM
Aug 2024

Promise a position in his (imaginary) new administration?

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
3. It Would Be A Nice Touch To The Season
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:04 PM
Aug 2024

That weird old creep suing the paper doing its best to boost him across the finish line in first place....

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
46. The NYTimes is "cheating" with alot
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:50 PM
Aug 2024

less Subscribers these days..... Everyone I know has cancelled their subscriptions to the NYTimes months ago for their constant support of Republicans and Trump..........

BattleRow

(2,449 posts)
66. Definition of chutzpah...
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:02 PM
Aug 2024

Kind of like the son who killed his mother and father,then threw himself on the mercy of the court because he was an orphan.

Delusional is an understatement.


 

brush

(61,033 posts)
4. The dumb, lying bastard got called on an obviously made up story and doesn't know...
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:05 PM
Aug 2024

how to handle it.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
17. Yep, a mile a minute. He knows how to rattle 'em off. The one thing he's expert at.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:21 PM
Aug 2024

FakeNoose

(41,631 posts)
33. Lawsuits - that's Chump's go-to answer for everything
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:57 PM
Aug 2024

There was a time when he could get away with his threats to sue. Nobody else has a staff of 100 fulltime lawyers like he does. He could make threats and people used to back down. Not anymore. Oh no, his lawyers are shit for brains, and he loses a lot of cases. Now it's in the papers and everybody knows how much he loses.

Besides that, there are plenty of good-guy lawyers out there who'd love to take a case pro bono (no charge) just to beat that f*cker. It's happening everywhere now.

In this particular case, we've already seen the photo of Chump in the helicopter with Gov. Jerry Brown - not Willie Brown. Former Mayor Willie Brown has already put out a press release denying that he was there.

Could it be a case of mistaken identity?

Doubtful - -



orwell

(8,003 posts)
38. Did Willie turn...
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:13 PM
Aug 2024

...suddenly black?

Just sayin...

(BTW...I grew up in San Francisco. Willie ran the joint.)

quaint

(5,080 posts)
98. Powerful personality. He ran the whole state for years.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 07:52 AM
Aug 2024

58th Speaker of the California State Assembly
In office December 2, 1980 – June 5, 1995

Eyeball_Kid

(7,604 posts)
117. It was all in service to his fictional gossip..
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 11:38 AM
Aug 2024

..about Willie Brown and Harris. Willie didn't have good things to say about Kamala. Woo! Former dating couple have opinions about one another! Wow! Now there's news! Trumpy-Boy is looking under the carpet for any breadcrumb so he can get Harris "fired", Celebrity Apprentice- style. It's just more evidence that Donny is frantic and desperate. Kamala is eating his brains.

OT: I watched a portion of Trump's MaL press conference, and was somewhat startled when closely observing Donny's facial expressions. There's something different happening with his facial musculature. The coordination has changed. There is a slowness and flatness not observed before. I don't know what it is, but it looks like he's taking something that's affecting his CNS. I think Donny is taking anti-depressants, and a lot of them.

PedroXimenez

(673 posts)
5. please let there be tapes of this call
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:07 PM
Aug 2024
When asked to produce the flight records, Mr. Trump responded mockingly, repeating the request in a sing-song voice.

BlueKota

(5,343 posts)
7. "In a sing song voice?"
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:09 PM
Aug 2024

He really is regressing to the toddler stage. No offense meant to toddlers.

Remember on Mork and Mindy when the aging process went in reverse and Jonathan Winters played their son.

Pretty soon Donny might be dropping to the floor kicking and screaming, then start sucking his thumb.

Irish_Dem

(81,262 posts)
93. Yes exactly. Why might this be?
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 06:22 AM
Aug 2024

1. The maturity level of the American people has sunk to lower levels.
2. Same with judgement.
3. We have become habituated to bad behavior, see it as normal.
4. People are blinded by hate, fear, and greed, so will tolerate bad behavior to get what they want.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
113. #5 & most likely; he is a cult leader. Look at Scientologists.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 09:55 AM
Aug 2024

They exhibit the same behavior when their leaders are questioned.

bullimiami

(14,075 posts)
8. He's delusional and if the media is worth half a shit they will be on this proof that Trump is GONE!!
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:09 PM
Aug 2024

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
49. Not likely
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:53 PM
Aug 2024

95+% of all Media in the U.S. is owned/operated by Uber Rich Republicans.......

Jirel

(2,369 posts)
10. There you have the explanation.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:09 PM
Aug 2024

No, the plane didn’t have mechanical problems. Loser von Hasbin got so riled in his state of dementia, whatever drugs they had him kind of holding it together went up in smoke. They had to set down to try again, and hope he could be somewhat coherent for the rally, or it would’ve been game over.

tetedur

(1,418 posts)
11. He also has proof that dead people voted.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:10 PM
Aug 2024

That votes were shredded. That illegals voted. That Italy changed votes with Ring door bells, That Hugo Chavez rigged the Dominion machines. That Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss rigged the state of Georgia's votes.

Wonder Why

(7,024 posts)
14. I have the records of his trip. On my old 78rpm platters but they're classified records.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:18 PM
Aug 2024

Last edited Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Ursus Arctos

(69 posts)
16. Pretty Sure The Flight Was With Frederick Douglass
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:20 PM
Aug 2024

He was traveling with Douglass because "[Douglass] was doing an amazing job and being recognized more and more."

Cheezoholic

(3,719 posts)
23. Asshole's flying around in a broken plane and rents out the spare rooms in his own house. Give me a break ;) n/t
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:37 PM
Aug 2024

ShazzieB

(22,583 posts)
57. I just wonder how bad it will have to get...
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:04 PM
Aug 2024

Last edited Sat Aug 10, 2024, 02:19 AM - Edit history (1)

...before the MSM (outside of MSNBC) stops pretending that everything he does is perfectly normal, showing him a ridiculous amount of deference, asking him only softball questions, snd letting him get away with not even answering those?

Yes I'm talking about that silly excuse for a presser at Mar-a-Lago.

No, I am NOT holding my breath.

Haggard Celine

(17,821 posts)
148. Some reporter needs to ask about all the stankin'.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 07:38 PM
Aug 2024

People have mentioned it, including Adam Kinzinger. I know it's a personal sort of question, but Trump and his goons would bring it up in a heartbeat if there was information about Kamala or Walz. Maybe we should each send him one of those pine tree car air fresheners.

tulipsandroses

(8,251 posts)
35. I'm sure he has it tucked away in the same place as his taxes, proof that Melania was here legally
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:04 PM
Aug 2024

before she started working, proof that he won bigly in 2020 and all the other things that he promised to prove to us.

And this shit is just bizarre. He said it in a "mocking sing song voice." - And there are not tons of stories about this man's mental capacity?

Ford_Prefect

(8,610 posts)
36. Can't have what doesn't exist, Donny. Someone needs to tell him that horse left the barn already.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:10 PM
Aug 2024

orwell

(8,003 posts)
37. He has the records...
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:12 PM
Aug 2024

...they are recorded with a black sharpie on the back of a McDonald's menu...

no_hypocrisy

(54,906 posts)
42. Go ahead and sue, Skippy.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:38 PM
Aug 2024

Remember the judicial penalty for frivolous lawsuits is treble damages (3x) and attorneys fees on top of the judgment.

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
50. Sanctions and court costs, but no, not 3X damages
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:54 PM
Aug 2024

Maybe that's how it works in your state, but it's not true in others. New York, the state where this case would be filed, doesn't do 3X damages.

Section 130-1.1 Costs; sanctions.

(a) The court, in its discretion, may award to any party or attorney in any civil action or proceeding before the court, except where prohibited by law, costs in the form of reimbursement for actual expenses reasonably incurred and reasonable attorney's fees, resulting from frivolous conduct as defined in this Part. In addition to or in lieu of awarding costs, the court, in its discretion may impose financial sanctions upon any party or attorney in a civil action or proceeding who engages in frivolous conduct as defined in this Part, which shall be payable as provided in section 130-1.3 of this Part. This Part shall not apply to town or village courts, to proceedings in a small claims part of any court, or to proceedings in the Family Court commenced under Article 3, 7 or 8 of the Family Court Act.

(b) The court, as appropriate, may make such award of costs or impose such financial sanctions against either an attorney or a party to the litigation or against both. Where the award or sanction is against an attorney, it may be against the attorney personally or upon a partnership, firm, corporation, government agency, prosecutor's office, legal aid society or public defender's office with which the attorney is associated and that has appeared as attorney of record. The award or sanctions may be imposed upon any attorney appearing in the action or upon a partnership, firm or corporation with which the attorney is associated.


https://ww2.nycourts.gov/rules/chiefadmin/130.shtml

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
43. Thanks, but we all know you are a liar
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:40 PM
Aug 2024

If the flight happened and there was an accident, or near-crash, then tell people when and where the flight started, and where it was supposed to go, and we can find the rest through the NTSB site:

https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-main-public/basic-search

Catherine Vincent

(34,610 posts)
44. I'm wondering why he would lie about something like that.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:44 PM
Aug 2024

Last edited Sat Aug 10, 2024, 03:46 PM - Edit history (1)

Ok, it appears he was thinking of another black guy. So he wasn't lying, he just think most black guys look alike?

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
59. Really?
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:14 PM
Aug 2024

He lied that he owned all of the block at Central Park South and Avenue of the Americas.

He lied that he graduated top of his class at UPenn, even though he didn't make the Dean's list at any time during his college stay.

He lied that he saw Muslims celebrating 9/11.

He lied that he went to help at the Twin Towers on 9/11, when he was hiding like the scared coward that he is.

He lied that he was a major donor at a charity event and forced off the stage one of the actual top donors.

He claimed that the US military ran out of ammo when Obama was POTUS.

You really think he wouldn't lie about a helicopter ride?

Really?

GopherGal

(2,905 posts)
124. Yeah, he's compulsive
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 11:58 AM
Aug 2024

I used to think "I know you lie, your lips are moving;", but it's more than that. He also lies when his thumbs are moving. If he's breathing, he's lying.

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
145. He lied about being responsible for John McCain's furneral.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 05:21 PM
Aug 2024

There aren't enough electrons in the universe to list all his lies.

subterranean

(3,762 posts)
74. I think he confused Willy Brown with Jerry Brown because they share the same last name.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:55 AM
Aug 2024

However, he can't admit that he was wrong, ever, so he has to double down and insist that he was right, and that the nasty media is just out to get him.

John1956PA

(4,964 posts)
81. It's a backhand way to discredit Kamala Harris.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:11 AM
Aug 2024

He is connecting himself with Willie Brown who was connected, personally, to Kamala Harris. He is using that tenuous pipeline to spew falsehoods about Kamala Harris.

mucholderthandirt

(1,783 posts)
94. My guess is he's not lying, per se, this is what he thinks he remembers happened.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 07:02 AM
Aug 2024

Mixed up people, mixed up situation, drug and age induced memory loss.

If we had a true free press, this man wouldn't have made it past a crappy TV show. Chances are he wouldn't have made it that far, he'd be in prison for fraud, rape or worse. The media knows he's totally gone. They know it, their bosses know it, most people in this country and around the world know it. It's like the emperor's new clothes, fake it and it's so.

Why isn't anyone releasing the Epstein records? Are they waiting to do an October surprise? Is it a strategy to make sure it's too late to get anyone else on the ballot? If it is, I can wait. I'd like to see voters waste their time on a felon and a dimwit "hillbilly-who-ain't", a ticket that can't win.

I think the polls are being faked, and we're so far ahead it would be the first landslide in a very long time. This shit about "close" races is a lie. As they say, you can make up your own facts, but you can't make up your own truth. One day we'll see the real way this crap is being run by the uber rich, how close democracy is to actually dying. People aren't paying enough attention, they think democracy can't lose, no president is going to be that bad, and we'll just vote them out next time. Oy.

Figarosmom

(11,984 posts)
48. I bet when reporters ask him
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:52 PM
Aug 2024

To put up or shut up he won't. Whenever he says he has proof he never shows it, never.

Martin68

(27,741 posts)
52. The Liar is just so used to getting away with it that he just doesn't realize that there is usually an evidence trail.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:58 PM
Aug 2024

But proving for the 1,000th time that he lied is not really going to make a difference at this point. I appreciate that the media is reporting this, in spite of all the knee jerk reactions blaming the press on DU.

Zambero

(9,990 posts)
54. That's funny...
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:00 PM
Aug 2024

I never knew that Jeffrey Epstein provided helicopter service for his clients.

rsdsharp

(12,002 posts)
56. I'm sure Melania will provide the records when she has her "little news conference"
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:02 PM
Aug 2024

to prove she came to the US legally.

We’ve waited 8 years, so far.

Traildogbob

(13,018 posts)
58. Maybe
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:10 PM
Aug 2024

He needs to clear all the pending court cases against him first before another court waste a second of time with his non stop bull shit.

Aussie105

(7,920 posts)
67. 'Look!' says Donnie
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:16 PM
Aug 2024

I made up a story than makes me look like a bit of a hero.

Why can't you people just play along?

I would have fought in the Revolutionary Wars if my bone spurs hadn't been acting up!

Honesty, Hannibal Lecter would agree with me!

. . . Donnie storms off throwing a sulk a 4 year old would be proud of.
There will be foot stomping - despite the bone spurs - and ketchup decorating the walls!

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
86. I don't think he said Willie mentioned Harris on that flight. I thought so too originally...
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:40 AM
Aug 2024

...that he was talking about their conversation on the helicopter so I wanted to make sure I was correct and went back and listened to it. The question was about her relationship with Willie Brown and Trump mentions he has known him for a long time and then goes into a rambling about the helicopter ... then wraps back around about comments Brown has made to him about Harris but because Trump rambles and is scattered, it sounds like they're connected but they're not.


/

OAITW r.2.0

(32,133 posts)
78. Old Nate is 95 and has a better memory than the most self-cognitive President (in his own mind) that we've ever had?
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:06 AM
Aug 2024

How's Nate's physical, emotional, and financial health, these days?

Aussie105

(7,920 posts)
71. Any intelligent and insightful person with a clear perception of the current situation
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:02 AM
Aug 2024

would realize that the situation is untenable and likely to get worse.

But Trump isn't insightful, intelligent nor does he have a clear perception of the current situation.

He is determined to see this through to the bitter end.
And the end will be bitter. For him.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
80. He just made a simple mistake....
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:08 AM
Aug 2024

...he meant to say bad, bad, Leroy Brown, the baddest man in the whole damn town.

Doodley

(11,912 posts)
83. I'm with Trump on this one. He needs to double down and devote a lot of time to prove he had a
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:12 AM
Aug 2024

dangerous helicopter landing. Issue lawsuits, send out more social media posts, hold a press conference, spend three months on this if needed, and prove that he has been through his own Vietnam with this helicopter incident. It's very important!

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
85. It sounds like he was confusing Willie Brown with Nate Holden, who was a Black councilman from Los Angeles.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:34 AM
Aug 2024
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/09/trump-plane-crash-california-00173487

As Holden said in an interview with Politico:

"Willie is the short Black guy living in San Francisco. I’m a tall Black guy living in Los Angeles. I guess we all look alike."

Tweedy

(1,284 posts)
87. Mr. Trump helped run Brian Williams
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:45 AM
Aug 2024

Off the air for a story about a helicopter going down because of heavy fire

Brian Williams was in a helicopter that went down. There was heavy fire. The problem for Mr. Williams was a sandstorm, not the bullets, caused the helicopter to land. Nobody bothered to check that somebody told Mr. Williams sand, not bullets, downed his helicopter.

Meantime, Mr Trump claims he went down on a helicopter with Willie Brown even though Mr. Brown says it never happened. There is no accident report. There is no media coverage. Mr. Trump made the whole thing up.

Guess Mr Trump better be fired sharpish !

KPN

(17,376 posts)
89. It appears it would have been wiser for him to have John Barron make that
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 03:43 AM
Aug 2024

phone call to the NY Times for him.

Kid Berwyn

(24,393 posts)
96. Lotta mouth. No proof. Gee, what's new?
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 07:14 AM
Aug 2024
Mr. Trump has a history of claiming he will provide evidence to back up his claims but ultimately not doing so.

Hey, New York Times! A little follow-up reporting, please!!

mwb970

(12,150 posts)
97. He's doubling down on something that never happened.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 07:35 AM
Aug 2024

With numerous people easily able to verify the truth.

This old man is completely losing his marbles.

Ramsey Barner

(669 posts)
100. Anybody else catch Trump's racist remark quoted in the Politico piece about Nate Holden (cited above)?
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 08:12 AM
Aug 2024
Over the phone Friday, Res said Trump liked to tell a joke about Holden on the helicopter — “you turned white,” he said. But she said it was Trump’s face that was white.

“He was white as snow,” Holden added. “And he was scared shitless.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/09/trump-plane-crash-california-00173487

twodogsbarking

(18,779 posts)
101. I visited the "A" wing once a week for ten years. Everyone was mentally impaired.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 08:19 AM
Aug 2024

Last edited Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:01 PM - Edit history (1)

They too would remember things that never happened. They were human though.

GiqueCee

(4,254 posts)
102. I'll bet those "records"...
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 08:24 AM
Aug 2024

... will be written with a Sharpie, and the ink won't even be dry yet.

dlk

(13,247 posts)
104. Another day, another lie...
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 08:59 AM
Aug 2024

Trump is the personification of the old lawyer joke: “How can you tell if Trump is lying? His lips are moving.”

Brainfodder

(7,781 posts)
105. I got claims right over here, too!
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 09:07 AM
Aug 2024

Whatcha gonna do about it little brain man?

I got your crowd sizes right here, $50 a head!


 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
111. It has been verified that the incident NEVER occurred with Willie Brown. It wa another person. Where is the media
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 09:41 AM
Aug 2024

questioning if trump has cognitive issues?

His constant ramblings and lies.

The media is not even doing "bothsiderisms" anymore. Their bias against Democrats is so obvious it is pathetic.

twodogsbarking

(18,779 posts)
112. Mr. Trump has a history of claiming he will provide evidence to back up his claims but ultimately not doing so.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 09:45 AM
Aug 2024
116. Say it all at once: "DISCOVERY!!!"
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 10:17 AM
Aug 2024

Likewise, the defendant can file a counter-complaint against the plaintiff which doesn't have to be related to the plaintiff's action.

In other words, "Throw me into that briar patch, Fat Donnie!"

BattleRow

(2,449 posts)
121. Discovery can reveal
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 11:45 AM
Aug 2024

dis coverup and dat coverup,secrets ferreted away down deep in the rabbit hole of the Mad Fatter.

Ritabert

(2,445 posts)
130. The emergency landing happened but not with Willie Brown
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:36 PM
Aug 2024

It happened with LA City Council member Nate Holden who was in a helicopter with Trump and others touring the Taj Mahal. A former Trump employee confirms the story. Holden is a Black man from Los Angeles.

Mysterian

(6,482 posts)
133. Yeah, right
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:10 PM
Aug 2024

Caught in another lie but that's all that comes out of Trump's stinking, filthy mouth.

nilram

(3,549 posts)
135. Wow, this was the NYT? I guess that reporter isn't getting a raise.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:43 PM
Aug 2024

Not following the company line.

C Moon

(13,642 posts)
139. How in the hell did we make it through 4 years of this clown?
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:56 PM
Aug 2024

How did the world, make it through 4 years?

Blue Owl

(59,099 posts)
140. I'm sorry sir those records have been flagged
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:58 PM
Aug 2024

We don’t want your toilet documents sir….

rampartd

(4,630 posts)
142. i'm still waiting for that "long form" birth certificate. whatever the hell that is.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 02:36 PM
Aug 2024

this guy and his "2 weeks."

TBF

(36,667 posts)
143. They're probably buried in his ex-wives cemetery with the
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 05:06 PM
Aug 2024

remaining classified documents that he hasn't sold to Putin yet.

Politicub

(12,328 posts)
147. People are saying that they're
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 06:05 PM
Aug 2024

in the same box as infrastructure week and a beautiful replacement for the ACA.

creeksneakers2

(8,015 posts)
150. I love this line:
Sun Aug 11, 2024, 03:24 PM
Aug 2024

"Mr. Trump has a history of claiming he will provide evidence to back up his claims but ultimately not doing so."

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