Trump Claims He Has Helicopter Trip Records and Threatens to Sue
Source: New York Times
Former President Donald J. Trump on Friday afternoon vehemently maintained that he had once been in a dangerous helicopter landing with Willie Brown, the former mayor of San Francisco, and insisted he had records to prove it, despite Mr. Browns denial.
In an angry phone call to a New York Times reporter as he landed several hours away from his planned rally in Bozeman, Mont., because of a mechanical issue on his plane, Mr. Trump excoriated The Times for its coverage of his meandering news conference on Thursday at Mar-a-Lago, his private club and home, during which he told of an emergency landing during a helicopter trip that he said both he and Mr. Brown had made together.
When asked to produce the flight records, Mr. Trump responded mockingly, repeating the request in a sing-song voice. As of early Friday evening, he had not provided them.
Mr. Trump has a history of claiming he will provide evidence to back up his claims but ultimately not doing so.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/09/us/politics/trump-helicopter-landing.html
BrianTheEVGuy
(697 posts)Mike Lindell has the records, they're in the same box where he keeps the indisputable proof that the election was stolen. Sadly, it's been misplaced.
But they exist, believe me!
sanatanadharma
(4,090 posts)However, he made the evidence confidential and top-secret in his mind; mangled and shredded and making no sense when strung together.
cojoel
(1,027 posts)hiding in there somewhere. I just know it.
quakerboy
(14,890 posts)Seinan Sensei
(1,590 posts)Hahaha!
Eeeew
Hahahahahahaha!!!
quakerboy
(14,890 posts)The Republicans who blocked laws against sex with ewe's were from louisiana
Bo Zarts
(26,405 posts)consider_this
(2,847 posts)Mr. Mustard 2023
(364 posts)"The NYT questioning Dear Leader enraged (weirdo) J. D. Vance, who declared he will get revenge against the New York Times by enacting a federal abortion ban".
(Because all creepy Vance seems to care about is controlling women.)
I tried.
AZ8theist
(7,482 posts)..many, MANY people know this!!!
BrianTheEVGuy
(697 posts)And it also has the tax records for the Trump Organization that prove the criminal convictions of Trump were all a Communist Wall Street Illegal Immigrants Rothschild House of Windsor conspiracy against Trump -- who is innocent and highly ethical.
AZ8theist
(7,482 posts)BrianTheEVGuy
(697 posts)Everybody knows Soros is the one stealing and hiding this Very Important Box!
Permanut
(8,460 posts)Mr. Mustard 2023
(364 posts)a billion dollars today.
BrianTheEVGuy
(697 posts)They'll be released along with his new health care plan in the next two weeks.
badhair77
(5,200 posts)You need to pay for more lawyers, and the suit wont go anywhere.
Irish_Dem
(81,880 posts)Marcuse
(9,060 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,880 posts)The tree outside his window.
Who knows.
DBoon
(25,071 posts)NBachers
(19,504 posts)other-dimensional events we're living through.
I'm in San Francisco, so this whole Willie Brown thing I find quite entertaining.
kimbutgar
(27,372 posts)Willie Brown was on the local news yesterday and said it never happened.
Paper Roses
(7,633 posts)Promise a position in his (imaginary) new administration?
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)That weird old creep suing the paper doing its best to boost him across the finish line in first place....
Irish_Dem
(81,880 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)less Subscribers these days..... Everyone I know has cancelled their subscriptions to the NYTimes months ago for their constant support of Republicans and Trump..........
Irish_Dem
(81,880 posts)It was clear they had gone to the dark side.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)BattleRow
(2,583 posts)Kind of like the son who killed his mother and father,then threw himself on the mercy of the court because he was an orphan.
Delusional is an understatement.
Irish_Dem
(81,880 posts)His need for revenge is so strong.
BattleRow
(2,583 posts)Spinocchio be or do without his nose?
Just another wooden head?
brush
(61,033 posts)how to handle it.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)FakeNoose
(41,977 posts)There was a time when he could get away with his threats to sue. Nobody else has a staff of 100 fulltime lawyers like he does. He could make threats and people used to back down. Not anymore. Oh no, his lawyers are shit for brains, and he loses a lot of cases. Now it's in the papers and everybody knows how much he loses.
Besides that, there are plenty of good-guy lawyers out there who'd love to take a case pro bono (no charge) just to beat that f*cker. It's happening everywhere now.
In this particular case, we've already seen the photo of Chump in the helicopter with Gov. Jerry Brown - not Willie Brown. Former Mayor Willie Brown has already put out a press release denying that he was there.
Could it be a case of mistaken identity?
Doubtful - -

orwell
(8,003 posts)...suddenly black?
Just sayin...
(BTW...I grew up in San Francisco. Willie ran the joint.)
PSPS
(15,349 posts)orwell
(8,003 posts)...are prepping the subpoena as we speak.
quaint
(5,112 posts)58th Speaker of the California State Assembly
In office December 2, 1980 June 5, 1995
brush
(61,033 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)..about Willie Brown and Harris. Willie didn't have good things to say about Kamala. Woo! Former dating couple have opinions about one another! Wow! Now there's news! Trumpy-Boy is looking under the carpet for any breadcrumb so he can get Harris "fired", Celebrity Apprentice- style. It's just more evidence that Donny is frantic and desperate. Kamala is eating his brains.
OT: I watched a portion of Trump's MaL press conference, and was somewhat startled when closely observing Donny's facial expressions. There's something different happening with his facial musculature. The coordination has changed. There is a slowness and flatness not observed before. I don't know what it is, but it looks like he's taking something that's affecting his CNS. I think Donny is taking anti-depressants, and a lot of them.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)PedroXimenez
(673 posts)QED
(3,354 posts)Bev54
(13,469 posts)SilasSouleII
(486 posts)BlueKota
(5,442 posts)He really is regressing to the toddler stage. No offense meant to toddlers.
Remember on Mork and Mindy when the aging process went in reverse and Jonathan Winters played their son.
Pretty soon Donny might be dropping to the floor kicking and screaming, then start sucking his thumb.
Irish_Dem
(81,880 posts)This is a young child behavior.
BlueKota
(5,442 posts)don't see how abnormal his behavior is.
Irish_Dem
(81,880 posts)1. The maturity level of the American people has sunk to lower levels.
2. Same with judgement.
3. We have become habituated to bad behavior, see it as normal.
4. People are blinded by hate, fear, and greed, so will tolerate bad behavior to get what they want.
oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)They exhibit the same behavior when their leaders are questioned.
BlueKota
(5,442 posts)AZ8theist
(7,482 posts)BlueKota
(5,442 posts)generalbetrayus
(1,918 posts)bullimiami
(14,075 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)95+% of all Media in the U.S. is owned/operated by Uber Rich Republicans.......
Jirel
(2,376 posts)No, the plane didnt have mechanical problems. Loser von Hasbin got so riled in his state of dementia, whatever drugs they had him kind of holding it together went up in smoke. They had to set down to try again, and hope he could be somewhat coherent for the rally, or it wouldve been game over.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)tetedur
(1,422 posts)That votes were shredded. That illegals voted. That Italy changed votes with Ring door bells, That Hugo Chavez rigged the Dominion machines. That Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss rigged the state of Georgia's votes.
PedroXimenez
(673 posts)Wonder Why
(7,153 posts)Last edited Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:11 PM - Edit history (1)
Evolve Dammit
(21,802 posts)Ursus Arctos
(69 posts)He was traveling with Douglass because "[Douglass] was doing an amazing job and being recognized more and more."
Ramsey Barner
(669 posts)ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Pinback
(13,616 posts)This post and the two replies below are gold!
Fiendish Thingy
(23,487 posts)Thanks, Donnie.
agingdem
(8,930 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,880 posts)catbyte
(39,212 posts)I can't believe he's still pulling in 47%.
Cheezoholic
(3,793 posts)JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)madaboutharry
(42,034 posts)Now he is spiraling downward and it is all amplified.
ShazzieB
(22,728 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 10, 2024, 02:19 AM - Edit history (1)
...before the MSM (outside of MSNBC) stops pretending that everything he does is perfectly normal, showing him a ridiculous amount of deference, asking him only softball questions, snd letting him get away with not even answering those?
Yes I'm talking about that silly excuse for a presser at Mar-a-Lago.
No, I am NOT holding my breath.
BattleRow
(2,583 posts)Seemed more like a DEpresser to me.
Haggard Celine
(17,863 posts)People have mentioned it, including Adam Kinzinger. I know it's a personal sort of question, but Trump and his goons would bring it up in a heartbeat if there was information about Kamala or Walz. Maybe we should each send him one of those pine tree car air fresheners.
paleotn
(22,450 posts)If so, hes lying. Really that damn simple.
cstanleytech
(28,521 posts)tulipsandroses
(8,291 posts)before she started working, proof that he won bigly in 2020 and all the other things that he promised to prove to us.
And this shit is just bizarre. He said it in a "mocking sing song voice." - And there are not tons of stories about this man's mental capacity?
Ford_Prefect
(8,632 posts)orwell
(8,003 posts)...they are recorded with a black sharpie on the back of a McDonald's menu...
Cadfael
(1,381 posts)no_hypocrisy
(55,102 posts)Remember the judicial penalty for frivolous lawsuits is treble damages (3x) and attorneys fees on top of the judgment.
Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)Maybe that's how it works in your state, but it's not true in others. New York, the state where this case would be filed, doesn't do 3X damages.
(a) The court, in its discretion, may award to any party or attorney in any civil action or proceeding before the court, except where prohibited by law, costs in the form of reimbursement for actual expenses reasonably incurred and reasonable attorney's fees, resulting from frivolous conduct as defined in this Part. In addition to or in lieu of awarding costs, the court, in its discretion may impose financial sanctions upon any party or attorney in a civil action or proceeding who engages in frivolous conduct as defined in this Part, which shall be payable as provided in section 130-1.3 of this Part. This Part shall not apply to town or village courts, to proceedings in a small claims part of any court, or to proceedings in the Family Court commenced under Article 3, 7 or 8 of the Family Court Act.
(b) The court, as appropriate, may make such award of costs or impose such financial sanctions against either an attorney or a party to the litigation or against both. Where the award or sanction is against an attorney, it may be against the attorney personally or upon a partnership, firm, corporation, government agency, prosecutor's office, legal aid society or public defender's office with which the attorney is associated and that has appeared as attorney of record. The award or sanctions may be imposed upon any attorney appearing in the action or upon a partnership, firm or corporation with which the attorney is associated.
https://ww2.nycourts.gov/rules/chiefadmin/130.shtml
no_hypocrisy
(55,102 posts)Thanks for the clarification.
BattleRow
(2,583 posts)Countersuit?
Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)If the flight happened and there was an accident, or near-crash, then tell people when and where the flight started, and where it was supposed to go, and we can find the rest through the NTSB site:
https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-main-public/basic-search
Catherine Vincent
(34,610 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 10, 2024, 03:46 PM - Edit history (1)
Ok, it appears he was thinking of another black guy. So he wasn't lying, he just think most black guys look alike?
Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)He lied that he owned all of the block at Central Park South and Avenue of the Americas.
He lied that he graduated top of his class at UPenn, even though he didn't make the Dean's list at any time during his college stay.
He lied that he saw Muslims celebrating 9/11.
He lied that he went to help at the Twin Towers on 9/11, when he was hiding like the scared coward that he is.
He lied that he was a major donor at a charity event and forced off the stage one of the actual top donors.
He claimed that the US military ran out of ammo when Obama was POTUS.
You really think he wouldn't lie about a helicopter ride?
Really?
GopherGal
(2,929 posts)I used to think "I know you lie, your lips are moving;", but it's more than that. He also lies when his thumbs are moving. If he's breathing, he's lying.
sarge43
(29,173 posts)There aren't enough electrons in the universe to list all his lies.
subterranean
(3,774 posts)However, he can't admit that he was wrong, ever, so he has to double down and insist that he was right, and that the nasty media is just out to get him.
John1956PA
(5,023 posts)He is connecting himself with Willie Brown who was connected, personally, to Kamala Harris. He is using that tenuous pipeline to spew falsehoods about Kamala Harris.
mucholderthandirt
(1,789 posts)Mixed up people, mixed up situation, drug and age induced memory loss.
If we had a true free press, this man wouldn't have made it past a crappy TV show. Chances are he wouldn't have made it that far, he'd be in prison for fraud, rape or worse. The media knows he's totally gone. They know it, their bosses know it, most people in this country and around the world know it. It's like the emperor's new clothes, fake it and it's so.
Why isn't anyone releasing the Epstein records? Are they waiting to do an October surprise? Is it a strategy to make sure it's too late to get anyone else on the ballot? If it is, I can wait. I'd like to see voters waste their time on a felon and a dimwit "hillbilly-who-ain't", a ticket that can't win.
I think the polls are being faked, and we're so far ahead it would be the first landslide in a very long time. This shit about "close" races is a lie. As they say, you can make up your own facts, but you can't make up your own truth. One day we'll see the real way this crap is being run by the uber rich, how close democracy is to actually dying. People aren't paying enough attention, they think democracy can't lose, no president is going to be that bad, and we'll just vote them out next time. Oy.
Figarosmom
(12,526 posts)To put up or shut up he won't. Whenever he says he has proof he never shows it, never.
Martin68
(27,942 posts)But proving for the 1,000th time that he lied is not really going to make a difference at this point. I appreciate that the media is reporting this, in spite of all the knee jerk reactions blaming the press on DU.
Klarkashton
(5,355 posts)Zambero
(10,009 posts)I never knew that Jeffrey Epstein provided helicopter service for his clients.
rsdsharp
(12,059 posts)to prove she came to the US legally.
Weve waited 8 years, so far.
Traildogbob
(13,075 posts)He needs to clear all the pending court cases against him first before another court waste a second of time with his non stop bull shit.
onenote
(46,189 posts)Aussie105
(8,046 posts)I made up a story than makes me look like a bit of a hero.
Why can't you people just play along?
I would have fought in the Revolutionary Wars if my bone spurs hadn't been acting up!
Honesty, Hannibal Lecter would agree with me!
. . . Donnie storms off throwing a sulk a 4 year old would be proud of.
There will be foot stomping - despite the bone spurs - and ketchup decorating the walls!
bmichaelh
(1,221 posts)Holden has come forward and claims it was him and not Willie Brown
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/09/trump-plane-crash-california-00173487
uncle ray
(3,361 posts)Self Esteem
(2,248 posts)...that he was talking about their conversation on the helicopter so I wanted to make sure I was correct and went back and listened to it. The question was about her relationship with Willie Brown and Trump mentions he has known him for a long time and then goes into a rambling about the helicopter ... then wraps back around about comments Brown has made to him about Harris but because Trump rambles and is scattered, it sounds like they're connected but they're not.
Link to tweet
/
OAITW r.2.0
(32,349 posts)How's Nate's physical, emotional, and financial health, these days?
Iggo
(49,975 posts)And Im not even kidding.
JohnnyRingo
(20,933 posts)He's cracking.
Aussie105
(8,046 posts)would realize that the situation is untenable and likely to get worse.
But Trump isn't insightful, intelligent nor does he have a clear perception of the current situation.
He is determined to see this through to the bitter end.
And the end will be bitter. For him.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)NBachers
(19,504 posts)Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...he meant to say bad, bad, Leroy Brown, the baddest man in the whole damn town.
JoseBalow
(9,609 posts)Ever.
Doodley
(11,992 posts)dangerous helicopter landing. Issue lawsuits, send out more social media posts, hold a press conference, spend three months on this if needed, and prove that he has been through his own Vietnam with this helicopter incident. It's very important!
Self Esteem
(2,248 posts)As Holden said in an interview with Politico:
"Willie is the short Black guy living in San Francisco. Im a tall Black guy living in Los Angeles. I guess we all look alike."
Tweedy
(1,284 posts)Off the air for a story about a helicopter going down because of heavy fire
Brian Williams was in a helicopter that went down. There was heavy fire. The problem for Mr. Williams was a sandstorm, not the bullets, caused the helicopter to land. Nobody bothered to check that somebody told Mr. Williams sand, not bullets, downed his helicopter.
Meantime, Mr Trump claims he went down on a helicopter with Willie Brown even though Mr. Brown says it never happened. There is no accident report. There is no media coverage. Mr. Trump made the whole thing up.
Guess Mr Trump better be fired sharpish !
KPN
(17,441 posts)phone call to the NY Times for him.
jayschool2013
(2,611 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,726 posts)Hey, New York Times! A little follow-up reporting, please!!
mwb970
(12,155 posts)With numerous people easily able to verify the truth.
This old man is completely losing his marbles.
Ramsey Barner
(669 posts)Over the phone Friday, Res said Trump liked to tell a joke about Holden on the helicopter you turned white, he said. But she said it was Trumps face that was white.
He was white as snow, Holden added. And he was scared shitless.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/09/trump-plane-crash-california-00173487
twodogsbarking
(19,015 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:01 PM - Edit history (1)
They too would remember things that never happened. They were human though.
GiqueCee
(4,476 posts)... will be written with a Sharpie, and the ink won't even be dry yet.
IronLionZion
(51,436 posts)dlk
(13,289 posts)Trump is the personification of the old lawyer joke: How can you tell if Trump is lying? His lips are moving.
Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)Whatcha gonna do about it little brain man?
I got your crowd sizes right here, $50 a head!
Botany
(77,574 posts)That worked out so well for you with E Jean Carroll
GreenWave
(12,694 posts)JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)questioning if trump has cognitive issues?
His constant ramblings and lies.
The media is not even doing "bothsiderisms" anymore. Their bias against Democrats is so obvious it is pathetic.
twodogsbarking
(19,015 posts)marmar
(79,855 posts)Tired old act from a tired old man.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,292 posts)Likewise, the defendant can file a counter-complaint against the plaintiff which doesn't have to be related to the plaintiff's action.
In other words, "Throw me into that briar patch, Fat Donnie!"
BattleRow
(2,583 posts)dis coverup and dat coverup,secrets ferreted away down deep in the rabbit hole of the Mad Fatter.
Martin68
(27,942 posts)The Unmitigated Gall
(4,710 posts)Ritabert
(2,505 posts)It happened with LA City Council member Nate Holden who was in a helicopter with Trump and others touring the Taj Mahal. A former Trump employee confirms the story. Holden is a Black man from Los Angeles.
Sneederbunk
(17,560 posts)Mysterian
(6,570 posts)Caught in another lie but that's all that comes out of Trump's stinking, filthy mouth.
nilram
(3,553 posts)Not following the company line.
C Moon
(13,678 posts)How did the world, make it through 4 years?
Blue Owl
(59,343 posts)We dont want your toilet documents sir .
Old Crank
(7,163 posts)We need to see proof.
Which he never delivers.
rampartd
(4,757 posts)this guy and his "2 weeks."
TBF
(36,888 posts)remaining classified documents that he hasn't sold to Putin yet.
Klarkashton
(5,355 posts)Sue away asshole.
Politicub
(12,332 posts)in the same box as infrastructure week and a beautiful replacement for the ACA.
creeksneakers2
(8,018 posts)"Mr. Trump has a history of claiming he will provide evidence to back up his claims but ultimately not doing so."