JD Vance says 2021 comments about giving more votes to people with kids were a 'thought experiment'

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: NBC News

Aug. 11, 2024, 2:01 PM EDT


Republican vice presidential nominee Sen. JD Vance on Sunday defended his 2021 comments about allocating more votes to people with children, saying they were a “thought experiment.”

In a widely circulated video clip from a 2021 speech he gave to a conservative organization called the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, Vance suggested giving more votes to people with children than to people who have none.

“Let’s give votes to all children in this country, but let’s give control over those votes to the parents of those children,” Vance said in his 2021 speech. “When you go to the polls in this country as a parent, you should have more power — you should have more of an ability to speak your voice in our democratic republic — than people who don’t have kids. Let’s face the consequences and the reality: If you don’t have as much of an investment in the future of this country, maybe you shouldn’t get nearly the same voice.”

During an interview on ABC News on Sunday, Vance, R-Ohio, maintained that his 2021 comment was “not a policy proposal,” but a “thought experiment.”

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/jd-vance-allotting-votes-people-children-thought-experiment-rcna166140

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[msongs]

1. sorta like mass deportations eh? just a thought nt

[Raven123]

2. Well he has the TFG BS two-step down perfectly.

Say it then claim it if it gets approval and deny, defuse or pretend you weren’t serious if it will lose you votes.

[FSogol]

3. That's why no one wants you to be VP, Vance. You are terrible at thinking. n/t

[Midnight Writer]

4. Today's "thought experiments" are tomorrow's outrages.

[Oopsie Daisy]

27. "Thought Experiment" "Trial Balloon"

He was completely serious.

[Javaman]

5. A thought experiment for exactly who?

The religious nationalists thats who.

Fuck the couch fucker

[calimary]

21. Gotta say I LOVE that! "The couch fucker"!

Of course we couldn't use it as openly or often as we'd like - there are kids listening.

But dude! This will be part of the legacy with which you'll go down in history. For those who don't mind a little rough language. "The Couch Fucker."

[Walleye]

6. Sounds like the drunk at the end of the bar shooting off his mouth. That could be a thought experiment too.

[RainCaster]

7. So... he's experimented with the idea of thinking

I wonder if he'll do that again? Apparently, he doesn't do that very often.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

8. To quote Vinnie Barbarino,

Bedbug (Vantz) had a good idea once but it died from loneliness.

[lonely bird]

31. Well...

It isn’t like he has a lot of material to work with.

[Clouds Passing]

9. An errant thought experiment

[Attilatheblond]

10. He's trying to throw red meat to the base but keeps stepping in what the bull left behind

He really isn't very good at this politics thing. Having a billionaire buy you a public office based on your willingness to just be his puppet isn't going to teach Shady anything.

He might do better to try to work out his writer's block and knock off another book or two in the quiet of his home office.

[slightlv]

11. How completely undemocratic

in this "democratic" country he says we are!

[Quanto Magnus]

12. Right....

because he 'thought' it was a great idea... until it wasn't.....

[moniss]

13. It very clearly shows that

they don't believe in "one person one vote".

[Zambero]

14. Well that is certainly reassuring

From now on, any MAGA policy proposal from project 2025, Vance, et al is merely a "thought experiment". I take that to mean "they thought it was an experiment they could get away with, until it blew up in their faces".

[Collimator]

15. Does this extra voting privilege. . .

. . . Extend to unmarried women on public assistance? Their children's futures are important, right? So, they get extra votes. And they might want to see the Child Tax Credit kept in place. Also, they might want Medicaid expanded in every state, and programs like Head Start could use more funding.

This might not be such a bad idea.

[BattleRow]

18. Think of all the polygamist

votes...they have LOTS of children.
Few if any cat ladies there!

[mahina]

16. For 13 years when my golden retriever got up from underneath the dining room table, she would bang her head on it from

Underneath.

Bump - OW

Every day

Bump -OW

She wasn’t a stupid dog, but she didn’t ever put two and two together ahead of time that getting up under the table would cause her to bang our head.

I see a parallel and that is giving massive credit to him because she was a beautiful soul

[SeattleVet]

17. It's not working!

[0rganism]

19. Running my own thought experiment over here... what would result from putting JD Vance on the GOP ticket in 2024?

I'm getting a lot of weird results like "58 state Democratic sweep", and that can't be right, maybe the sim needs some constraint adjustments. Oh, also, if you're reading this Mr. Vance, try to avoid tall buildings with large windows for like... the next 3 years. Probably nothing, but the word "defenestration" does keep showing up in my simulations with alarming frequency.

[Talitha]

20. Brainless weirdo says what?

“Let’s give votes to all children in this country, but let’s give control over those votes to the parents of those children”

Hmmm...
Give votes to children BUT their parents do the actual voting.
So in the real world, you haven't 'given' the children anything.
Typical Repug.
Once the child is born, they get nothing.

(insert flamng asshole emoji here)

[SunSeeker]

22. "Thought experiment"?! Who even talks like that?

I've heard a lot of lame efforts to downplay prior idiotic statements, but never "thought experiment." He is such a creepy weirdo.

[I am Neo]

28. Exactly

Thought experiment is like alternative facts.

[Roy Rolling]

23. Same

“Thought experiment”? WTF?

I’ve never heard that expression, it’s word salad and means nothing.

I know. I’ve experimented with a lot of things.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

24. So, the kids don't actually get a vote. The parents get extra votes. A compromise:

... how about giving the parents three fifths of a vote for each child they own. There might be constitutional precedence if you squint just so ...

[Marcuse]

25. Property owners' vote should be weighted because of their investment.

[bullimiami]

26. Experiment in stupid thought?

[magicarpet]

29. No JD Vance it was not a thought experiment.

It was a Fascist fevered dream where you hoped to concoct a plan to grab more power to enable you to achieve your Nazi utopia more rapidly.

[Baitball Blogger]

30. Translation: Man speaks without filters.

[Ray Bruns]

32. Bullshit. J D Vance doesn't think.

[Conjuay]

33. This harkens back to a time when only those

Who owned land were allowed to vote.
I guess what they say about elephants is true, they never forget.
This is a republican wet dream.

[BumRushDaShow]

36. They are trying to do that

by forcing an "address" (in whatever form THEY "dictate" ) in order to be able to register to vote. E.g., those forced to use a P.O. box because there is either no "address" for them (rural, RVer, boater, etc) or they are unsheltered and moving from facility to facility, then here comes the problem.

[twodogsbarking]

34. Tim Walz said he would debate Vance if he can get off the couch.

I didn't make this up.

[murielm99]

35. When I saw that,

I tried it on my husband. I thought at him and told him to do all the housework and make a million dollars in income this year. He thought some stuff at me. Didn't work.