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Botany

(71,964 posts)
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 09:41 AM Aug 13

Donald Trump Says He Will Flee to Venezuela if He Loses Election

Source: Newsweek


During his interview with billionaire Republican donor Elon Musk, presidential candidate Donald Trump said they could "meet next time in Venezuela" if he loses November's election.

"If something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we'll meet the next time in Venezuela, because it'll be a far safer place to meet than our country," Trump said to Musk. "OK, so we'll go. You and I will go, and we'll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela."

Trump had been alleging that Venezuela is releasing violent criminals from its jails and sending them to the United States as illegal immigrants, thereby reducing its own crime rate.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-flee-venezuela-loses-election-elon-musk-interview-1938321



If somebody shows you who they are believe them. Maya Angelou

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Donald Trump Says He Will Flee to Venezuela if He Loses Election (Original Post) Botany Aug 13 OP
He says "Venezuela" but he means "Russia." nt thucythucy Aug 13 #1
But it does mean that he is actively planning on fleeing America Botany Aug 13 #9
Donald would receive homegirl Aug 13 #45
No, he admires Maduro, he thinks of Maduro as "Strong & Intelligent", its in John Bolton's book. Escurumbele Aug 13 #83
Ye dumb ASS doesnt know that POOTY bluestarone Aug 13 #101
Pity Venezuela. twodogsbarking Aug 13 #2
Venezuela should build a wall to keep out Donald Trump IronLionZion Aug 13 #3
"He take he money... Gruenemann Aug 13 #4
Now rambler_american Aug 13 #61
" ...send lawyers, guns and money..." ewagner Aug 13 #64
Wait until he's hiding in Honduras! ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 13 #66
Um, not so sure the judge will be keen on Trump leaving the country like that. aeromanKC Aug 13 #5
He needs some court ordered ankle jewelry ... the man is a convicted felon and is out on bail Botany Aug 13 #16
Nah, since he already suggested he has plans to flee, revoke his bails, all of them, and toss his ass in jail Attilatheblond Aug 13 #43
He certainly has the means and motive ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 13 #67
Meet? Didn't they do this over their phones? underpants Aug 13 #6
He should book his ticket now True Dough Aug 13 #7
So. He admits he is guilty. Captain Zero Aug 13 #15
Maybe he's referring to RoadRunner Aug 13 #8
Isn't that an old Calypso song? "... Take me money and run Venezuela " Srkdqltr Aug 13 #10
Smart: go ahead and tell Judge Merchan in NY you're a flight risk Ramsey Barner Aug 13 #11
Really. I'd order him to my courtroom tomorrow to be put into custody awaiting trial n/t ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 13 #69
Verezuera? Clouds Passing Aug 13 #12
Yeah, that's where the Nazis all go to hide and retire, isn't it? Coexist Aug 13 #13
Argentina is where I heard about the Nazis running to. raccoon Aug 14 #110
There too! Coexist Aug 14 #111
shithole lies like a running toilet............................... Lovie777 Aug 13 #14
Will he use Jeffrey Epstein's jet to fly there? Vogon_Glory Aug 13 #17
Chump has no plans to flee, he's saying this to fake us out FakeNoose Aug 13 #18
WTF Zoomie1986 Aug 13 #24
He's making a statement about immigration. He's implying that Democrats will turn the US into Venezuela. LeftInTX Aug 13 #70
He says he'll flee to Venezuela "if" he loses the election FakeNoose Aug 13 #96
All talk and no action... LeftInTX Aug 13 #97
Need any help packing? tanyev Aug 13 #19
Yes. Why wait? Ray Bruns Aug 13 #40
TSF is a FLIGHT RISK BlueWavePsych Aug 13 #20
Shouldn't that be enough to put him in jail, after all he is on bail. Bev54 Aug 13 #76
Talking about leaving the country GarColga Aug 13 #21
Hmmm, is Vegas giving odds on upcoming SS Detail vs US Marshalls' team? Attilatheblond Aug 13 #47
Uh huh Zoomie1986 Aug 13 #22
Now when he is sentenced in September CanonRay Aug 13 #23
He'd have to do that anyway Zoomie1986 Aug 13 #27
When you own a 757, you don't need a passport. speak easy Aug 13 #36
Surprisingly--- homegirl Aug 13 #41
Well, I suppose the airforce could shoot down Trump's plane speak easy Aug 13 #56
His passport should be revoked. ificandream Aug 13 #25
... or his bail revoked Dorn Aug 13 #74
Is a go fund me necessary? Brainfodder Aug 13 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author TBF Aug 13 #51
He so broke he might have to do it in coach? Brainfodder Aug 13 #57
Don't let the door hit you in the ass louis-t Aug 13 #28
But my Venezuelan in-laws who fled their country and do NOT think it is a nice place will still vote for him. dameatball Aug 13 #29
Obligatory Tombstone meme Shermann Aug 13 #30
Sinnerman PurgedVoter Aug 13 #31
Didn't he promise he'd leave last time he lost? Think. Again. Aug 13 #32
Another worthless promise. twodogsbarking Aug 13 #33
I'm not that lucky. joanbarnes Aug 13 #34
I've predicted this for some time now, but I think it will be Cuba. I know he imposed sanctions on Cuba while he LaMouffette Aug 13 #35
apparently cubans in miami et tu Aug 13 #82
My money is on the Arabian Peninsula Wednesdays Aug 13 #84
That's just it: no adoring fans in Saudi Arabia. And in Cuba, his rich US buddies could easily fly there to stroke his LaMouffette Aug 13 #90
ahh, but sex/nudity/prostitution - anything about sex is frowned upon., then Dan Aug 13 #109
That's been my guess too. He won't go to Russia. But I belive 100% when sentanced to prison Bengus81 Aug 14 #112
Why isn't he going to Russia? Putin will find him there. Bluethroughu Aug 13 #37
This "fixer upper" in Tomsk, Siberia is ready to take Trump, his family, and the rest of his shits too. Botany Aug 13 #46
I don't know, that looks over budget for him. Bluethroughu Aug 13 #49
So the convicted felon has publicly stated that he's a flight risk? canuckledragger Aug 13 #38
Venezuela has an extradition treaty with the U.S., but is known to often refuse extradition requests anyway - Earthrise Aug 13 #39
Air Blockade Culinary Mercenary Aug 13 #42
Welcome to DU! Dear_Prudence Aug 13 #80
Right this way sir Blue Owl Aug 13 #44
promises promises orleans Aug 13 #48
"If" he loses. twodogsbarking Aug 13 #50
Bye Felicia - nt TBF Aug 13 #52
He captured the news cycle PennRalphie Aug 13 #53
time to revoke his passport WhiteTara Aug 13 #54
Figured if Rebl2 Aug 13 #55
Trump wants to be Maduro. CaptainTruth Aug 13 #58
and revoke any bonds since he's a flight risk mdbl Aug 13 #59
tramp IS a Flight Risk! MrWowWow Aug 13 #60
He also said something similar in his RNC speech. LeftInTX Aug 13 #62
Grounds for a court order forbidding him travel Grins Aug 13 #63
Viktor Orban haz' a sad... Grins Aug 13 #65
I am ok with that liberal N proud Aug 13 #68
Perfect argument for remand into custody NOW Novara Aug 13 #71
He never keeps his promises, he made a similar promise in 2020. Bev54 Aug 13 #72
Well, bye. Wednesdays Aug 13 #73
Trump's 'Venezuela' invitation to Musk raises 'fight risk' fears among legal experts LetMyPeopleVote Aug 13 #75
Just go now and save us all the grief. yourout Aug 13 #77
Promises, promises bluescribbler Aug 13 #78
It sounds like the judges in his trials need to require Trump to submit his passport avebury Aug 13 #79
He always says it out loud, people.. Joinfortmill Aug 13 #81
Horseshit. maxsolomon Aug 13 #85
Buh-bye Seinan Sensei Aug 13 #86
He will be the banana Mblaze Aug 13 #87
TSF needs to pay the $400 Mil he owes the state of New York, the $83 Mil he owes E Jean Carroll and iluvtennis Aug 13 #88
prisoner exchange enid602 Aug 13 #89
Please let this one thing he said wryter2000 Aug 13 #91
Fine. For both of them. Just go. catrose Aug 13 #92
Would Venezuela let a convicted felon in, under normal circumstances? muriel_volestrangler Aug 13 #93
Agree. GopherGal Aug 13 #103
HOORAY!! This is the first crack in the dam. Sogo Aug 13 #94
There are always hungry mosquitos awaiting. GreenWave Aug 13 #95
More BS from the whiny crybaby JoseBalow Aug 13 #98
Bye Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 13 #99
why Venezuela though? mahina Aug 13 #100
Hell, I'll organize a nationwide bake sale to help with expenses if he takes his family with him and never comes brewens Aug 13 #102
we WISH Skittles Aug 13 #104
Trump's not going to Venezuela. He doesn't speak spanish, he only speaks Russian. SupportSanity Aug 13 #105
He can go now for all I care! Callalily Aug 13 #106
LOL - When he loses this race, he will be useless to everybody blogslug Aug 13 #107
If Trump is able to run Dan Aug 13 #108
Could someone please buy him a one way leftyladyfrommo Aug 14 #113
Then we'll Noriega his ass. The Grand Illuminist Aug 14 #114
Maya's right. He's show us what he is Zoomie1986 Aug 14 #115

Botany

(71,964 posts)
9. But it does mean that he is actively planning on fleeing America
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 09:49 AM
Aug 13

China gave him 10s of millions that were washed through his D.C. hotel in 2021 which a
nice chunk wound up in a Chinese bank account in Trump’s name. He has his “get out of
town money” ready to go.

homegirl

(1,500 posts)
45. Donald would receive
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 11:03 AM
Aug 13

the welcome he so desperately needs. Parade, medal, an apartment in Moscow and a dacha by the Black Sea. Donald has a problem, he needs the spotlight and the media coverage, which Putin will NOT share. So, six months to a year and Donald has an "accident."

Escurumbele

(3,551 posts)
83. No, he admires Maduro, he thinks of Maduro as "Strong & Intelligent", its in John Bolton's book.
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:34 PM
Aug 13

Putin most probably told him to forget about thinking he can move to Russia. Putin know trump is an idiot, and also knows he cannot put up with the buffoon.

He would be happy being close to Maduro, although we all hope Maduro will be out from Venezuela before November.

bluestarone

(17,910 posts)
101. Ye dumb ASS doesnt know that POOTY
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 03:04 PM
Aug 13

Is working on Figuring out what HIGH RISE window to use, when he no longer needs TFG.

IronLionZion

(46,780 posts)
3. Venezuela should build a wall to keep out Donald Trump
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 09:45 AM
Aug 13

I hope he does leave our country. Russia is more likely. And MAGA supporters should go too.

aeromanKC

(3,446 posts)
5. Um, not so sure the judge will be keen on Trump leaving the country like that.
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 09:46 AM
Aug 13

Or should I say judges (plural)

Just saying ........

Attilatheblond

(3,875 posts)
43. Nah, since he already suggested he has plans to flee, revoke his bails, all of them, and toss his ass in jail
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 11:01 AM
Aug 13

Self announced flight risk has to mean something.

underpants

(185,636 posts)
6. Meet? Didn't they do this over their phones?
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 09:47 AM
Aug 13

That’s aside from Venezuela being a starving corrupt almost lawless place. Does Trump want to expand his Inaugural theme to “Venezuelan carnage”?

True Dough

(19,333 posts)
7. He should book his ticket now
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 09:47 AM
Aug 13

Hopefully the Trump jet is repossessed by that time and he has no choice but to fly coach.

Captain Zero

(7,342 posts)
15. So. He admits he is guilty.
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 09:54 AM
Aug 13
Of all the crimes he is charged with, and he's not sticking around for the trials next year.

Vogon_Glory

(9,377 posts)
17. Will he use Jeffrey Epstein's jet to fly there?
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 09:56 AM
Aug 13

And would he even be welcomed in Caracas?

If I was President Madura, I’d have my immigration people pack him up and send him to Havana.

FakeNoose

(35,043 posts)
18. Chump has no plans to flee, he's saying this to fake us out
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 09:58 AM
Aug 13

He wants us to think he's not planning a coup ... but of course there will be a coup attempt and it will fail. By then it's going to be too late for him to flee anywhere.

For the record, he'd never go to Venezuela. It's too hot and they don't speak English there. It's a shithole country with no golf courses. But then you could say the same about Russia. Russia is too cold, but everything else is true.

Chump is signaling that he already knows he's going to lose the election. The minions (and Proud Boys) will be notified, the coup is on. "Stand back, stand by."

LeftInTX

(29,362 posts)
70. He's making a statement about immigration. He's implying that Democrats will turn the US into Venezuela.
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:18 PM
Aug 13

And that Venezuela will be empty.

America will be full of Venezuela's dangerous immigrants and that Venezuela will be safe and empty because all of their dangerous people are now in the US.

He said that in his RNC acceptance speech:

In Venezuela, crime is down 72%. In El Salvador, murders are down 70%. The world’s criminals are coming here, to a town near you—and are being sent by their governments because their governments are smarter than ours. "We will have our next Republican convention in Venezuela because it will be safe..."


He's being facetious. "Might as well move to Venezuela. It will be better than here".

I know it doesn't make sense. It's just BS. He's not fleeing.

He's just playing to his base.

It's no different than when some A-hole in Texas files a bill to "cede from the US". It's just a vanity ploy to the base.

Bev54

(11,603 posts)
76. Shouldn't that be enough to put him in jail, after all he is on bail.
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:26 PM
Aug 13

They should rescind his bail and put him in jail as a flight risk, he has the will, the ability and the means to flee.

Attilatheblond

(3,875 posts)
47. Hmmm, is Vegas giving odds on upcoming SS Detail vs US Marshalls' team?
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 11:06 AM
Aug 13

Bet COSTCO is about outta popcorn

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
22. Uh huh
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 10:25 AM
Aug 13

And live amongst all those brown people who talk funny? In a culture that won't give him as much adoration as he gets here, because--OMFG--they have their own celebrities who interest them more?

CanonRay

(14,707 posts)
23. Now when he is sentenced in September
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 10:29 AM
Aug 13

He will have to surrender his passport. The Judge will take this seriously.

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
27. He'd have to do that anyway
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 10:38 AM
Aug 13

If I were Bragg, I'd ask the judge for an immediate hearing to get him sentenced because now he's a self-declared flight risk.

Even a hearing on it will put TSF in a tizzy. Not that he'd be scared it will happen to him (he doesn't know fear, really), but that he'll be so ticked off that someone dared to tell him where he could or couldn't go that the ketchup will be flying. Then he'll start saying even worse and dumber things that will shrink his support come November.

Every vote we turn away from him, be it to vote instead for Harris (yay!), sitting out the vote entirely (well, okay), or skipping the POTUS race at the top of the ballot (ugh, but it'll do), is a plus for Harris.

speak easy

(10,282 posts)
56. Well, I suppose the airforce could shoot down Trump's plane
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 11:24 AM
Aug 13

when it diverted from the flight plan from Florida, but it's only 14 miles out of US Airspace.

Response to Brainfodder (Reply #26)

dameatball

(7,545 posts)
29. But my Venezuelan in-laws who fled their country and do NOT think it is a nice place will still vote for him.
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 10:41 AM
Aug 13

LaMouffette

(2,202 posts)
35. I've predicted this for some time now, but I think it will be Cuba. I know he imposed sanctions on Cuba while he
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 10:49 AM
Aug 13

was "president," but he could have a change of heart.

He would still be close enough to the US that he could still feel relevant in his little pea brain. Plus, apparently, Cuba is getting a lot of tourists these days from Russia and China:


HAVANA, June 10 (Reuters) - Russian tourist Serguei Boyaryshnic wandered in awe among the pastel-colored buildings and cobblestone streets of Old Havana on a weekday morning, his family in tow.
"We had heard a lot about Cuba. Our countries have been friends for years," said the 36-year-old Moscow resident, who had joined a small tour group. "We love everything about it."
Cuba has recently begun offering perks to entice visitors like Boyaryshnic from allied countries such as Russia and China as it struggles to revive a stagnant tourism sector still struggling to recover from the pandemic.

That has meant more and sometimes direct flights from Russia and China, the elimination of visa requirements for Chinese visitors and Cuba's recent decision to accept Russia's Mir payment cards, one of only a handful of countries to join Moscow's alternative to Visa and Mastercard.
That strategy has paid early dividends.
More than 66,000 Russians visited the Caribbean island in the first three months of the year, state-run Cuban media reported, double that of the same period in 2023. The Russian visitors are one of Cuba's few tourism bright spots, however.



[link:euters.com/world/cuba-woos-russians-chinese-revive-ailing-tourist-sector-2024-06-10/#:~:text=More%20than%2066%2C000%20Russians%20visited,few%20tourism%20bright%20spots%2C%20however.|

Maybe Putin would prop him up in Cuba as a "president" in exile and find a way to use their puppet there to antagonize the US.

et tu

(1,751 posts)
82. apparently cubans in miami
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:34 PM
Aug 13

love him so cuba would be a good choice for him
but i don't think his ticker will last that long when he loses.

Wednesdays

(19,513 posts)
84. My money is on the Arabian Peninsula
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:36 PM
Aug 13

Dry heat, no extradition treaty with the U.S., and plenty of money in friendly hands (remember the $2 bil. Jared got from Saudi?).
The only downside: no crowds of adoring fans...but TCF could hole up in a luxury hotel and golf for the rest of his days.

LaMouffette

(2,202 posts)
90. That's just it: no adoring fans in Saudi Arabia. And in Cuba, his rich US buddies could easily fly there to stroke his
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:56 PM
Aug 13

ego.

I bet Putin would even pony up to finance a new Trump Tower Havana.

Yikes, maybe I should delete this post. I don't want to give Dolt 45 or Pootie-Poot any ideas.

Dan

(3,936 posts)
109. ahh, but sex/nudity/prostitution - anything about sex is frowned upon., then
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 07:28 PM
Aug 13

criticism of the royal family is a death sentence... and Trump can't keep his mouth shut, or his pants on.

on edit - stealing is not a good thing either.

Bengus81

(7,312 posts)
112. That's been my guess too. He won't go to Russia. But I belive 100% when sentanced to prison
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 07:53 AM
Aug 14

he will RUN. Hell,I'd chip in for some fuel with the stipulation he never comes back. That man will NOT spend his remaining years locked up in a cell.

Botany

(71,964 posts)
46. This "fixer upper" in Tomsk, Siberia is ready to take Trump, his family, and the rest of his shits too.
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 11:04 AM
Aug 13


He can take his proud boys too.

Bluethroughu

(5,594 posts)
49. I don't know, that looks over budget for him.
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 11:12 AM
Aug 13

I was hoping he'd get a nice work camp with a shared toilet there.

Earthrise

(15,617 posts)
39. Venezuela has an extradition treaty with the U.S., but is known to often refuse extradition requests anyway -
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 10:57 AM
Aug 13

"For example, countries that have extradition treaties with the United States, but which are known to often refuse extradition requests anyway include Ecuador, Cuba, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Iceland, Switzerland, Venezuela, and Zimbabwe."

World Population Review
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-without-extradition

PennRalphie

(230 posts)
53. He captured the news cycle
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 11:21 AM
Aug 13

By having a stream on twitter that nobody claimed to be watching. Nobody cared about it. But here it is, dominating the news. I didn’t watch it. I don’t care what anyone says about it.

My goal is to convince PA voters who are already NOT voting for him to vote for Kamala.

Her messaging is very positive. How she will reign in prices. Keep the economy booming. People out there care about the economy. Not some internet live stream.

CaptainTruth

(7,111 posts)
58. Trump wants to be Maduro.
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 11:42 AM
Aug 13

He wants to be able to do what Maduro just did, ignore the votes of the people & declare himself the winner, then persecute his opponents.

MrWowWow

(245 posts)
60. tramp IS a Flight Risk!
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 11:48 AM
Aug 13

Last edited Tue Aug 13, 2024, 03:11 PM - Edit history (1)

He just declared himself to be so last night during his bs interview with eLooooon.

LeftInTX

(29,362 posts)
62. He also said something similar in his RNC speech.
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:09 PM
Aug 13
In Venezuela, crime is down 72%. In El Salvador, murders are down 70%. The world’s criminals are coming here, to a town near you—and are being sent by their governments because their governments are smarter than ours. "We will have our next Republican convention in Venezuela because it will be safe..."


He's implying that immigrants are making America an unsafe place to live and that Venezuela will be safe because the US accepted Venezuela's immigrants.

In other words: It's bullshit. He's not going anywhere. He's just saying stupide shit.

Grins

(7,765 posts)
63. Grounds for a court order forbidding him travel
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:11 PM
Aug 13

Outside the U.S. Yank his passport, block his plane.

Novara

(6,070 posts)
71. Perfect argument for remand into custody NOW
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:18 PM
Aug 13

The idiot told America he's a flight risk. Jack Smith should petition the DC court to take him into custody.

Engoron hasn't yet announced the sentence for the 34 felonies. Sounds like a damn good reason to lock him the fuck up.

LetMyPeopleVote

(152,707 posts)
75. Trump's 'Venezuela' invitation to Musk raises 'fight risk' fears among legal experts
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:25 PM
Aug 13

TFG is running for POTUS to stay out of prison

TFG last night discussed fleeing to Venezuela if he losses



https://www.alternet.org/trump-musk-venezuela/

Legal experts jumped on Trump suggesting a trip to Venezuela, especially given his status as a convicted criminal awaiting sentencing.

“Trump is a convicted felon to be sentenced in a month and he’s talking about fleeing to a country that refuses US extradition requests,” observed MSNBC legal analyst Kristy Greenberg, a former SDNY Criminal Division Deputy Chief. “Anyone else would be in jail. Trump is showing yet again that he isn’t amenable to Probation’s supervision and must be sentenced to jail time.”

There are countries where TFG could flee which do not have an extradition treaty with the US


If TFG loses, TFG will do what he can to avoid jail.

avebury

(11,045 posts)
79. It sounds like the judges in his trials need to require Trump to submit his passport
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:32 PM
Aug 13

since is looks like he has admitted that he will flee the country to avoid serving time in prison if he loses the election.

iluvtennis

(20,561 posts)
88. TSF needs to pay the $400 Mil he owes the state of New York, the $83 Mil he owes E Jean Carroll and
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:45 PM
Aug 13

and he still needs to serve any prison sentences for existing/upcoming criminal guilty verdicts.

enid602

(8,891 posts)
89. prisoner exchange
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:49 PM
Aug 13

“Donald Trump Says He Will Flee to Venezuela if He Loses Election”

I read the other day that the US is condidering giving Maduro assylum in the US if he just leaves. Is all of this part of another Biden-supported prisoner exchange?

muriel_volestrangler

(102,187 posts)
93. Would Venezuela let a convicted felon in, under normal circumstances?
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 01:13 PM
Aug 13

I can't see the current government giving him an exception. Perhaps if the current opposition are declared the winner's of the disputed election (which looks unlikely - the government still hasn't released the detailed results, and is promising to use an "iron fist" against opponents), they might allow him in. But they wouldn't need to.

GopherGal

(2,326 posts)
103. Agree.
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 04:23 PM
Aug 13

If Venezuela is actively trying to lower its crime rate by expelling criminals, allowing one with 34 felony convictions to enter the country doesn't seem consistent with their strategy.

Of course, we have that premise of expelling criminals from TSF himself, so not a reliable source by any means.

mahina

(18,716 posts)
100. why Venezuela though?
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 03:00 PM
Aug 13

Some countries with US extradition treaties have refused to extradite, including Ecuador, Cuba, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Iceland, Pakistan, Egypt, Switzerland, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, etc.

List of United States extradition treaties - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_extradition_treaties#:~:text=Some%20countries%20with%20US%20extradition,%2C%20Venezuela%2C%20Zimbabwe%2C%20etc.




brewens

(15,222 posts)
102. Hell, I'll organize a nationwide bake sale to help with expenses if he takes his family with him and never comes
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 03:05 PM
Aug 13

back.

I'm thinking of how well they would do in Venezuela if things broke bad and they were of no particular use to anybody.

blogslug

(38,500 posts)
107. LOL - When he loses this race, he will be useless to everybody
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 05:48 PM
Aug 13

His only value is that he was president and the possibility that he might be again.

Don't get me wrong. VP Harris will win but him and his fascist buddies are going to fight the result. Think the 2000 election + Jan 6.

But after that. When he is done. He is done. All those dirty deals he made with foreign actors will be worthless. He'll be dead weight and the Secret Service ain't gonna follow him to Venezuela.

Dan

(3,936 posts)
108. If Trump is able to run
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 07:21 PM
Aug 13

to Venezuela, assuming his passport is not confiscated then the US government has options.

1. First take his passport and monitor his movements - pending litigation of all his legal trials.
2. Put a hold on his assets - foreign and domestic.
3. Because he had exposure to our highest security secrets - they can seek the ultimate remedy to protect vital interests.

Now if the government allows him to leave - he must take his family with him and as many of the MAGA trial willing to go, especially Stephen Miller.

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
115. Maya's right. He's show us what he is
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 04:06 PM
Aug 14

Which is the rare cross between a compulsive and pathological liar.

So he tells over 30,000 lies as President and a hundred of them an hour since then. But now people choose to believe this dung heap his face anus dropped?

Just because you want it to be true doesn't mean it is.

It's pretty rare to go wrong with betting on anything he says being a lie until proved otherwise. Has the added benefit of making one look smarter and saner, because believing him is always the stupid thing to do.

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