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demmiblue

(40,075 posts)
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 07:18 PM Aug 2024

Trump campaign staff had altercation with official at Arlington National Cemetery

Source: NPR

Two members of Donald Trump’s campaign staff had a verbal and physical altercation Monday with an official at Arlington National Cemetery where the former president participated in a wreath laying ceremony, NPR has learned.

A source with knowledge of the incident said the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump staffers from filming and photographing in a section where recent U.S. casualties are buried. The source said Arlington officials had made clear that only cemetery staff members are authorized to take photographs or film in the area, known as Section 60.

When the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump campaign staff from entering Section 60, campaign staff verbally abused and pushed the official aside, according to the source.

Trump participated in an event to mark the third anniversary of a deadly attack on U.S. troops in Afghanistan as U.S. forces withdrew from the country; 13 U.S. service members were killed in the attack. The Trump campaign has blamed President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, now the Democratic presidential nominee, for the chaotic withdrawal.

Read more: https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery

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Trump campaign staff had altercation with official at Arlington National Cemetery (Original Post) demmiblue Aug 2024 OP
The disrespect.............................. Lovie777 Aug 2024 #1
Indeed............ MyOwnPeace Aug 2024 #6
Anymore, i feel these fuckers don't have a right to be in this country. (traitors all of them) bluestarone Aug 2024 #2
Yes they don't deserve to live in a democracy. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #11
How much longer are these thugs going to be allowed to shit all over this country? hadEnuf Aug 2024 #3
Exactly this. FalloutShelter Aug 2024 #52
Where's Jake Tapper, self-declared media defender of the troops Prairie Gates Aug 2024 #4
Charge these criminals and prosecute them and convict them. Tarzanrock Aug 2024 #5
Now the fuckers have lost the deceased voters bloc. rzemanfl Aug 2024 #7
The MEDIA needs to jump on this!! bluestarone Aug 2024 #8
They won't Rebl2 Aug 2024 #12
Google it. All the major media have picked up the story. Ocelot II Aug 2024 #53
Jake Tapper would shit a penguin on live television if the Harris campaign did this Prairie Gates Aug 2024 #13
Poor nit-wit Jake is, in fact, a "poser", an unserious person through and through. jaxexpat Aug 2024 #40
trump set the date for withdrawal from Afghanistan Marthe48 Aug 2024 #9
TFG did not have permission to stage this photo op LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #10
Go ahead, release the footage. Liars. liberalmuse Aug 2024 #21
and of course they conveniently skip over that part. JohnSJ Aug 2024 #37
"suffering from a mental health episode" Jimbo S Aug 2024 #50
Kick until someone who will print it, sees it! tavernier Aug 2024 #14
Trump Campaign Used Section 60 for Campaign Stunt LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #15
Thanks so much for posting. HoosierDebbie Aug 2024 #19
Just when I thought the Dump campaign couldn't be a bigger bunch of assholes mdbl Aug 2024 #16
Trump was fishing for ammo to use against Harris. He doesn't care about dead soldiers. JohnnyRingo Aug 2024 #17
trDUMP knows his calling veterans suckers and losers many many times,... magicarpet Aug 2024 #54
The way I saw it, he went to a specific area JohnnyRingo Aug 2024 #58
trDUMP and Pompeo set Biden up for a guaranteed,.. magicarpet Aug 2024 #60
Who ever of trump's thugs that did the shoving, Bayard Aug 2024 #18
What a despicable scumbag JoseBalow Aug 2024 #20
"Cemetery Official" orangecrush Aug 2024 #22
Not necessarily rpannier Aug 2024 #24
The national cementary staff are Gov employees but not military IbogaProject Aug 2024 #26
Thanks orangecrush Aug 2024 #55
I believe they also have volunteers. My parents are buried at a National Cemetery. Arlington is different though LeftInTX Aug 2024 #62
THUGS! NJCher Aug 2024 #23
That kind of behavior at any cemetery. n/t brewens Aug 2024 #29
He still thinks DENVERPOPS Aug 2024 #31
Reminds me of that... 2naSalit Aug 2024 #33
Pushing is assault IbogaProject Aug 2024 #25
Arlington Cemetery exists only to serve as tRump's prop background, nothing else Blue Owl Aug 2024 #27
The media HAS responded to it .... ificandream Aug 2024 #28
Thanks so much for this list of media articles. riversedge Aug 2024 #42
So, a few articles, but that's not the point maxrandb Aug 2024 #48
Yes it IS the point. And further .... ificandream Aug 2024 #49
And the charges filed against him are? usonian Aug 2024 #30
Shameful!! Just shameful! diehardblue Aug 2024 #32
Too bad that... 2naSalit Aug 2024 #34
It was a photo op for the moron TommieMommy Aug 2024 #35
This is despiciple. What is Bloomberg talking about this morning? How VP Harris has been avoiding a sit down JohnSJ Aug 2024 #36
What an a-hole. Pissing on soldier graves BoRaGard Aug 2024 #38
Private citizen and film crew show up at a cemetery, break the rules and abuse staff? Aussie105 Aug 2024 #39
The rich are different than you or I: they can do what ever they want Dorn Aug 2024 #41
My older brother orangecrush Aug 2024 #56
This needs to be a huge fuckin' story... Happy Hoosier Aug 2024 #43
Pure trash. Every single one of them. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #44
As I heard bdamomma Aug 2024 #45
That sounds criminal. BrightKnight Aug 2024 #46
Brownshirts get the red out Aug 2024 #47
Did any of the so-called "suckers and losers" rise up from the grave BoRaGard Aug 2024 #51
I would love to see the video of this if it exists.. Nail their lying ass to the wall...nt mitch96 Aug 2024 #57
Arlington officials updated the statement on Wednesday, writing, "To protect the identity of the individual involved, no LeftInTX Aug 2024 #61
Psychopaths feel they're above laws, rules & norms. They feel entitled 2 do what ever they want. LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #59

MyOwnPeace

(17,673 posts)
6. Indeed............
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 07:40 PM
Aug 2024

from that first ride down the 'golden escalator'..........................

Not just to the 'military' - the 'minorities' - the 'opposition'.......................

It had been DISRESPECT to ALL AMERICANS and the UNITED STATES - to which we stand - and say...............

FUCK YOU, INDICTED CORRUPT TRAITOR!

bluestarone

(22,545 posts)
2. Anymore, i feel these fuckers don't have a right to be in this country. (traitors all of them)
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 07:26 PM
Aug 2024

TFG has put a curse on our Democracy.

Prairie Gates

(8,653 posts)
4. Where's Jake Tapper, self-declared media defender of the troops
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 07:29 PM
Aug 2024

He said jack fuckall when Trump shit all over the Congressional medal of honor. He will say n othing now, the fucking worm.

WHERE'S JAKE TAPPER?

 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
5. Charge these criminals and prosecute them and convict them.
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 07:39 PM
Aug 2024
Scofflaw Republican Nazi goons respect nothing -- not even the hallowed grounds of Arlington -- they care not a whit about Law nor are they willing to obey the Law. I'm pretty sure that this conduct is a criminal violation of existing law. The Justice Department should charge these criminals and prosecute them and convict them.

rzemanfl

(31,501 posts)
7. Now the fuckers have lost the deceased voters bloc.
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 07:47 PM
Aug 2024

They say there's so many of them. This could be huge.

Prairie Gates

(8,653 posts)
13. Jake Tapper would shit a penguin on live television if the Harris campaign did this
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 08:26 PM
Aug 2024

He will say absolutely nothing because he's a fucking phoney.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
40. Poor nit-wit Jake is, in fact, a "poser", an unserious person through and through.
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 07:00 AM
Aug 2024

He and nearly every video news cast personality has a predictable on-air pose. Often a lifted eyebrow or clenched jaw and, for extreme dramatic effect and screen presence, a seething glare. I give you every top paid live camera desk jockey of the current millennia. From the up-and-coming bright neo-liberal star of the moment to the thoroughly disgusted-and-tried-and-true Hannity wannabe du jour.

"Life is but a stage and we are but players upon it", so goes the observation attributed to W. Shakespeare. News corporations, decades ago, realized that punctuation, especially the dramatically impactful and "hard-hitting" sort, was valuable to ratings and their bottom lines. We are observing that stage of news broadcast where the facts about the daily happenings in our world are relegated to the back seat, upstaged by presentation and, thus, the presenters with their predictable facial expressions which are so disingenuous, they're laughable. But then, we are, at best, a vapid crowd of hero starved and sexy-spin seeking sheep, arguing and fretting about the contradictions and other scripted drivel spewing from the mouths of animated celebrity mannequins set to pose for the highest bidders.

Marthe48

(23,738 posts)
9. trump set the date for withdrawal from Afghanistan
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 07:57 PM
Aug 2024

He signed a deal and even though it was flawed, President Biden followed through on the deal:

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

The lead up to the withdrawal is hardly ever mentioned, but if the death of the troops was because of the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, point a finger at traitor. He agreed to a plan doomed to failure, because, everything he does is a failure.

LetMyPeopleVote

(183,899 posts)
10. TFG did not have permission to stage this photo op
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 08:02 PM
Aug 2024

TFG and his asshole did not respect the Park officials or the location. TFG did not have permission to do this photo op






liberalmuse

(18,881 posts)
21. Go ahead, release the footage. Liars.
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 11:17 PM
Aug 2024

And the Afghanistan debacle was all Trump’s doing. Pres. Biden had no choice as Trump made the agreement as a “Fuck you” to the incoming administration. I’m sick to death of this abomination of a human being. I wish he would go away and all memory of him, his family and the deplorable MAGAs would be erased from humanity.

HoosierDebbie

(458 posts)
19. Thanks so much for posting.
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 10:43 PM
Aug 2024

I can't find the exact words to express the depth of my contempt and hate for him. He is the worst person ever produced by this country. No one has ever done more to destroy the image of The United States of America to the world. Each time it seems as if he has to have reached the furthest depths of chronic misconduct and flagrant disrespect drills down even further. I hope he digs himself to hell as soon as possible and finds he is despised there as well. And I hope he lands hard enough on his frigging raised thumb up his ass that he can never extract it.

mdbl

(8,959 posts)
16. Just when I thought the Dump campaign couldn't be a bigger bunch of assholes
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 09:59 PM
Aug 2024

They prove me wrong.

JohnnyRingo

(21,093 posts)
17. Trump was fishing for ammo to use against Harris. He doesn't care about dead soldiers.
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 10:01 PM
Aug 2024

That ammo blew up in his face in spectacular fashion.

magicarpet

(19,529 posts)
54. trDUMP knows his calling veterans suckers and losers many many times,...
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 11:17 AM
Aug 2024

.... will not play well on the campaign trail.

So now trDUMP has video proof on file that he loves our fallen soldiers with utmost compassion and respect in his heart for those who have given so much for their country.

Performative art and theatrical renditions of love for country are all it takes for trDUMP to convince AmeriKKKa to vote for him during his Reality TV Presidential campaign.

Pulling fast ones on the voters to win their votes is what Team trDUMP is all about.

JohnnyRingo

(21,093 posts)
58. The way I saw it, he went to a specific area
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 05:02 PM
Aug 2024

He went to a section occupied by recent burials because that's where he can find the dozen or so soldiers killed during the Afghanistan retreat.
I imagine he has a commercial planned that shows how much sympathy he has and say it wouldn't have happened under him.

Being empathy challenged, his thumbs up gesture makes it look like he's celebrating a victory. They'll cut that out.

magicarpet

(19,529 posts)
60. trDUMP and Pompeo set Biden up for a guaranteed,..
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 06:40 PM
Aug 2024

... fail in the final exit from Afghanistan.

In December the last month of trDUMP's 4 year term - he abd Pompeo set up a trap for Biden who was soon to be inaugurated.

1 ) Team trDump pulled 35,000 American troops out - leaving a skeleton crew of 2,500 remaining soldiers.

2.) Team trDUMP released 5,000 of the nastiest extremist Taliban from military lock ups. Did not include the new government of Afghanistan in the release decision. And by no surprise these 5,000 Muslim extremists over powered the newly trained Afghan military in less than one week.

3.) Much of the American military equipment was disabled or destroyed under orders of trDUMP. So the Afghan soldiers had no way to defend the country from the Taliban once trDump released them - (5K).


4.) With the American troop drawdown so rapidly to 2,500 soldiers - they could do nothing to help the Afghan army maintain stability against the Taliban take over. The small contingent of US troop trDUMP and Pompeo left could only maintain order at the main airport trying to get embassy officials and US citizen out of Afghanistan. It was a race against time to evacuate before the Taliban took over the airport too.

5.) To compound the situation on the ground dyring the exit from Afghanistan trDump and Pompeo refused to communicate the withdrawal plans made by trDUMP/Pompeo or fill them in about the situation of the ground during the administration transition phase -during the two and one half months between the election and Biden's inauguration.

trDUMP and Pompeo shafted Biden by intentionally leaving his administration in the blind so they could set Biden up for failure.

Then blame Biden because the Afghan draw down did not go smoothly. But 90% of the troop draw down logistics was planned and executed by Team trDUMP.

trDUMP now hated Biden because Biden won the 2020 election. trDUMP wanted Biden to fail and look very incompetent so trDUMP set up booby traps for Team Biden to get tangled up in. While trDUMP gloated and rejoiced at Biden's supposed ineptitude.

trDUMP is unequivocal and absolute human scum. Playing Fascist games with American national security and the wellbeing of our military soldiers. Just another act of treason by trDUMP with an utter lack of deference for American domestic or international stability.


Bayard

(30,646 posts)
18. Who ever of trump's thugs that did the shoving,
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 10:33 PM
Aug 2024

Should be charged with assault. Sounds like there were witnesses.

Completely classless and clueless.

rpannier

(25,000 posts)
24. Not necessarily
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 11:59 PM
Aug 2024

Could be former military, civilian. It doesn't have to be military. Espec since they didn't identify what the cemetery officials actual job title is; a gardener can be an official

IbogaProject

(6,177 posts)
26. The national cementary staff are Gov employees but not military
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 12:14 AM
Aug 2024

Not sure if each has some kind of commander but the day to day staff are employees not uniformed military.

LeftInTX

(34,956 posts)
62. I believe they also have volunteers. My parents are buried at a National Cemetery. Arlington is different though
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 06:55 PM
Aug 2024

My hunch is was an "official" mainly because they were dealing with Trump and his entourage. As to whether that person was military, I have no idea.

The military I see are honor guards for burials.
I can't remember whether the person who gives directions is military or not.

NJCher

(43,808 posts)
23. THUGS!
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 11:35 PM
Aug 2024

I can't even imagine pushing a cemetary official aside if I was told I couldn't do my "photo op" there.

I am disgusted beyond belief.

I loathe this ignorant asshole.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
31. He still thinks
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 02:19 AM
Aug 2024

he is President, and is untouchable for anything, thx to the USSC...........

2naSalit

(104,790 posts)
33. Reminds me of that...
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 05:34 AM
Aug 2024

Video clip of the orange asswipe grabbing and shoving the PM of Moldova during one of the first NATO meetings in Europe after he stole the presidency.

That and the pictures of ruzzians in the oval office are images I will never forget.

IbogaProject

(6,177 posts)
25. Pushing is assault
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 12:12 AM
Aug 2024

If there is enough evidence to identify the individuals who pushed a government official then they should be criminally charged. If more done by more than one go with the conspiracy charge, which gives the government a chance to add twenty years to any other conviction provided they get convicted of conspiracy. I normally am against heavy handed enforcement, but MAGA and GOP disrespect for rules and towards our government needs to be prosecuted when things like fraud or assault happen.

maxrandb

(17,556 posts)
48. So, a few articles, but that's not the point
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 09:07 AM
Aug 2024

It's the double-standard. I actually turned on the news this morning, for the first time in months...NOTHING ABOUT THIS.

Even MSNBC didn't have a segment on it this morning.

Contrast that with what we know would have happened if a Democratic Candidates campaign staff had a PHYSICAL and VERBAL confrontation with Arlington Cemetary officials, while disgustingly turning our war dead into political footballs.

The FUCKING media would have broken into the FUCKING Super Bowl in a tied game during the 4Th quarter, and wouldn't have returned to live coverage of the game until Chuck Todd held a Focus Group with Beaver County, PA Hayseeds to discuss this (obviously disqualifying act for ANY Democrat, from Presidential Candidate to Dogcatcher) event.

They would delay the debut of their entire fall season, because there would not be enough time in a 24/7/365 world for them to tie this deplorable, disgusting act to the entire Democratic Party.

Hell, they'd probably lobby the United States Navy's Master Clock for an extra 10th of a second that they could devote to this.

ificandream

(11,867 posts)
49. Yes it IS the point. And further ....
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 10:33 AM
Aug 2024

Last edited Wed Aug 28, 2024, 01:35 PM - Edit history (1)

Do any of the media complainers really know anything about the media? I don't mean picking up the newspaper or reading the NYT online. I mean working in the media and knowing what's involved in putting together a paper. What goes into the process of vetting and editing stories each day? I suspect not. (FYI, I worked at a major metropolitan daily paper for over 35 years.)

And I still find it unbelievable that more people here seem to complain more about CNN than Fox. Your REAL enemy is Fox and the right-wing media. Especially Fox, which is despicable in so many ways starting with their name that boldly uses "news" in their title but which is everything but. Not only that, but the way they twist their "news". Remember, they were fined a record amount for LYING. And there's still another case yet to be settled.

And this nitpicking about "we know would have happened if a Democratic Candidates campaign staff had a PHYSICAL and VERBAL confrontation with Arlington Cemetary officials, while disgustingly turning our war dead into political footballs." .... well, no you don't. Setting up a situation for a story based on what WE think happened is not proof of anything. If this story was THAT big and if reporters on the scene found the proof, it would have been reported. Your whole conspiracy logic for the media is woefully inaccurate, to put it mildly.

To me, it appears there are seven degrees of confirmation in today's journalism stories. Some stories are written with the flimsiest degree of proof (Fox especially). Others rely on the traditional journalism standard of heavy proof using multiple sources. Which is the way it should be. Reporters' stories don't tell you everything about the process of reporting. Different media sources work differently. And reporters GENERALLY (unless they're working for a stupid place like Fox) know what they're doing.

TommieMommy

(3,219 posts)
35. It was a photo op for the moron
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 05:42 AM
Aug 2024

What a bunch of bullies on the DRump team. How disrespectful. DRump only cares about himself.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
36. This is despiciple. What is Bloomberg talking about this morning? How VP Harris has been avoiding a sit down
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 06:27 AM
Aug 2024

interview, and how her interview with CNN tomorrow with Bash is being done with Walz to take pressure off her.

The press is as despiciple. I really hate what this country has become.

BoRaGard

(7,598 posts)
38. What an a-hole. Pissing on soldier graves
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 06:36 AM
Aug 2024

to get a publicity shot. Fugging republicons have no honor

Aussie105

(8,346 posts)
39. Private citizen and film crew show up at a cemetery, break the rules and abuse staff?
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 06:41 AM
Aug 2024

Told the area was off limits for a propaganda piece and a film crew.
Got mouthy and pushy?

Why were the local police not called?
Anyone arrested? No?

orangecrush

(31,828 posts)
56. My older brother
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 12:09 PM
Aug 2024

Was a Vietnam veteran stationed at Ft. Myer.

He was chosen for Honor Guard partly because of his bearing, 6'1 and V shaped.

They're lucky that guy didn't show up.

My brother was born angry.


bdamomma

(69,667 posts)
45. As I heard
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 08:39 AM
Aug 2024

on Keith Olbermann it is illegal to take a photo op standing on graves of the fallen. Fucking stupid felon!!!!!

BoRaGard

(7,598 posts)
51. Did any of the so-called "suckers and losers" rise up from the grave
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 10:52 AM
Aug 2024

to smite the republicon draft-dodger felon?

Asking for the honorable men and women of America.

mitch96

(15,911 posts)
57. I would love to see the video of this if it exists.. Nail their lying ass to the wall...nt
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 03:43 PM
Aug 2024

LeftInTX

(34,956 posts)
61. Arlington officials updated the statement on Wednesday, writing, "To protect the identity of the individual involved, no
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 06:51 PM
Aug 2024

further information about the incident is being released at this time.”

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