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BumRushDaShow

(169,753 posts)
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 07:21 AM Sep 2024

Republicans blame moderators for Trump's poor debate performance

Source: Politico

09/11/2024 01:59 AM EDT


PHILADELPHIA — Republicans know Donald Trump didn’t win Tuesday’s debate. And they know who to blame: the media.

“It was three-on-one. They continued to engage in so-called fact-checking of Donald Trump. They never did that to Kamala Harris,” Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) told reporters. “You have two moderators there who acted as agents of the Harris campaign,” said David Bossie, a longtime Trump adviser and Republican National Committee member from Maryland.

“It was a little outrageous that they would fact-check only one candidate on the fly,” said Tim Murtaugh, who was the communications director for Trump’s 2020 campaign.

Trump had been setting the stage for weeks, arguing that the debate would be biased against him. Soon after the debate began, the complaints began rolling in — on social media, at watch parties across the nation — as if on cue: If anyone thought Trump was having a bad debate, it’s because of the media.

The posture from Trump’s backers on Tuesday stood in contrast to the June debate against President Joe Biden on CNN, which didn’t have any fact checking and left Trump saying he was treated “very fairly.”

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/11/republicans-blame-moderators-trump-debate-performance-00178591

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Republicans blame moderators for Trump's poor debate performance (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 2024 OP
Here, this will help. twodogsbarking Sep 2024 #1
LOL earth to republicans,why would you favt check, ermm, facts? ananda Sep 2024 #2
They did not have to factcheck Kamaka because SHE Did Not LIE !!!!!! Trueblue1968 Sep 2024 #29
What? The Moderators threw TSF off his mark by fact-checking? no_hypocrisy Sep 2024 #3
People only get fact-checked Miguelito Loveless Sep 2024 #4
I mean, it's not complicated! LymphocyteLover Sep 2024 #9
Thought the ABC moderators did a really good job Deminpenn Sep 2024 #5
Yes they did! Aussie105 Sep 2024 #10
Will corporate media both written and oral........................ Lovie777 Sep 2024 #6
Do these people take responsibility for anything? Ray Bruns Sep 2024 #7
No. canuckledragger Sep 2024 #16
NEVER. . . BigDemVoter Sep 2024 #21
Trump gave a few reasons for fact checking. Aussie105 Sep 2024 #8
There was another doozy that he spewed... BumRushDaShow Sep 2024 #11
One way to control the fact checking ArizonaLib Sep 2024 #15
Unfair ! They stopped a few of my best lies ! nt delisen Sep 2024 #12
He was fact checked literally only 3 times Diraven Sep 2024 #13
There was another - BumRushDaShow Sep 2024 #14
I wish they would have corrected him about how much money China pays in tariffs. thesquanderer Sep 2024 #23
I think they did do that in a follow-on question that actually delved into that BumRushDaShow Sep 2024 #24
This is something that Kamala should bring up in a campaign speech FakeNoose Sep 2024 #25
Second post but it is great.......... twodogsbarking Sep 2024 #17
My thoughts exactly. mwooldri Sep 2024 #22
So they defend him with the "I saw on TV" over cat and pet eating behavior? This is your guy and you wonder PortTack Sep 2024 #18
And they call US "snowflakes!" LOL! n/t slightlv Sep 2024 #19
dump is not the stable genius he claims to be CountAllVotes Sep 2024 #20
If trump hadn't of told absurd lies there would have been no Klarkashton Sep 2024 #26
Competition stiffens the closer you get to the White House bucolic_frolic Sep 2024 #27
JFC. Trump was accusing immigrants of eating American's pets! Freethinker65 Sep 2024 #28
He needs to be defanged before he gets high-falutin' ideers about President Tom ArkansasDemocrat1 Sep 2024 #30

Aussie105

(7,920 posts)
10. Yes they did!
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 07:37 AM
Sep 2024

The post mortem from talking heads on other channels after the debate though . . .

Lovie777

(22,979 posts)
6. Will corporate media both written and oral........................
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 07:34 AM
Sep 2024

do actual journalism and inform the public that yes, shithole is in mental and physical decline and request for a full examine like what they did to Pres Biden 24/7?

The onslaught from the crazies to blame everyone else has begun like clockwork.

BigDemVoter

(4,700 posts)
21. NEVER. . .
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:41 PM
Sep 2024

They ALWAYS blame someone else. **$$Y-Grabber was the worst president in American history, and they just don't get it.

Aussie105

(7,920 posts)
8. Trump gave a few reasons for fact checking.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 07:35 AM
Sep 2024

Kamala, not so much.

If Kamala had said some of the things Trump came out with, she would have been fact checked too.
But she didn't.

Moderators not to blame.
Trump's revision of history and alarmist make-believe were to blame.

Loved the bit where cats and dogs were getting eaten by immigrants, and Ukraine/Palestine wars wouldn't be happening if he was in charge.
Sure, Donald! /sarcasm

BumRushDaShow

(169,753 posts)
11. There was another doozy that he spewed...
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 07:43 AM
Sep 2024

something like "Hundreds of millions have died in Ukraine" and "they're not telling the truth about that" or some such nonsensical crap.

I was like WTF?

Diraven

(1,898 posts)
13. He was fact checked literally only 3 times
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 08:33 AM
Sep 2024

In lies that were so ridiculous the moderators couldn't let them slide:
1. Post-birth abortions
2. Migrants eating pets
3. That the 2020 election was stolen

BumRushDaShow

(169,753 posts)
14. There was another -
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 08:53 AM
Sep 2024

that "the FBI reported that violent crime was way down". It was said so fast but I did catch it from Muir.

thesquanderer

(13,006 posts)
23. I wish they would have corrected him about how much money China pays in tariffs.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 01:54 PM
Sep 2024

The tariffs are paid not by the countries they are levied against, but by the companies that import the products (and then is a factor in the final price of the product to consumers, which is why they can be inflationary). If Apple buys lithium batteries from China, and tariffs are increased, those tariffs are paid by Apple, not China.

There is one way China might be paying tariffs, though... if the American company that imports the product is actually owned by China. But even then, it would become part of the cost of the product that is passed down the distribution chain until it is ultimately paid for by the consumer.

The only real "cost" to the other country is one of reduced sales of their products that can occur because they are effectively made more expensive.

BumRushDaShow

(169,753 posts)
24. I think they did do that in a follow-on question that actually delved into that
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 02:14 PM
Sep 2024

and he waved it away claiming that the cost being passed along to the consumer "would never happen" and/or something along the lines of "they won't do that".

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
25. This is something that Kamala should bring up in a campaign speech
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 02:20 PM
Sep 2024

It's a complicated issue and of course Chump will never explain that tariffs are really a federally-levied sales tax that Americans would have to pay, and nothing more. Kamala needs to respond and make it clear to voters what Chump is really proposing.

It's beyond anything the fact-checking mods could have done on the fly.

twodogsbarking

(18,781 posts)
17. Second post but it is great..........
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 09:20 AM
Sep 2024

Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro (D) had a retort for complaints about the moderators.

“I’m a sports guy, and I think any time a team is whining about the refs, it’s because they lost,” Shapiro told reporters. “And so that’s what I see that as ― he’s just whining about the refs.”

mwooldri

(10,818 posts)
22. My thoughts exactly.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 01:35 PM
Sep 2024

Though it's pointless whining about the referees when your team has lost the soccer match 8-0.

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
18. So they defend him with the "I saw on TV" over cat and pet eating behavior? This is your guy and you wonder
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 10:45 AM
Sep 2024

Why he was fact checked?

CountAllVotes

(22,215 posts)
20. dump is not the stable genius he claims to be
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:30 PM
Sep 2024

Dump is an idiot and he proved it last night.

Rot in hell old freak!



Klarkashton

(5,292 posts)
26. If trump hadn't of told absurd lies there would have been no
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 02:22 PM
Sep 2024

Reason to fact check it. case closed.

bucolic_frolic

(55,136 posts)
27. Competition stiffens the closer you get to the White House
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 02:26 PM
Sep 2024

The journalists are supposed to ask real questions at this level and beyond.

Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
28. JFC. Trump was accusing immigrants of eating American's pets!
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 02:32 PM
Sep 2024

Defend that Mr. I will send letters to foreign governments to undermine current presidential policy Cotton.

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