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Zorro

(18,691 posts)
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 06:27 PM Sep 2024

Trump says he would withhold California fire aid unless Newsom 'signs those papers'

Source: Los Angeles Times

Former President Trump painted a dystopian image of California as crime-ridden, water-starved and flooded with immigrants in the country illegally, which he cast as a warning about what will happen to the nation if Kamala Harris is elected president.

“I’m here today in California with a very simple message for the American people: We cannot allow comrade Kamala Harris and the communist left to do to America what they did to California,” he told reporters Friday from his bluff-top golf course in Rancho Palos Verdes, with the Pacific Ocean and Catalina Island in the background. “The state of California is a mess, with people leaving, and nothing’s gonna stop them.”

Trump said if he were elected, he would stop sending California federal firefighting aid unless Gov. Gavin Newsom, whom he referred to repeatedly as “Newscum,” enacted his policy priorities on issues such as taxes.

“If he doesn’t sign those papers, we won’t give him money to put out all his fires. And if we don’t give him all the money to put out the fires, he’s got problems,” Trump said. “He’s a lousy governor.”

Read more: https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-09-13/2024-election-trump-rancho-palos-verdes-news-conference



This guy can't FOAD quick enough.
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Trump says he would withhold California fire aid unless Newsom 'signs those papers' (Original Post) Zorro Sep 2024 OP
Blackmailer-in-chief. Trump is a piece of shit! He and the whole QOP need to be defeated soundly ffr Sep 2024 #1
Technically extortion Buzz cook Sep 2024 #51
There's a part of me that wishes the blue states could declare an embargo thucythucy Sep 2024 #2
I"m in a red state, and I don't blame you! slightlv Sep 2024 #13
If he'll tolerate a wildfire storming through the country, he'll tolerate Putin doing the same ck4829 Sep 2024 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #49
Boy, conservatives are SO jealous of California's 5th largest economy in the world canuckledragger Sep 2024 #4
Exactly. OldBaldy1701E Sep 2024 #8
Don't know what scares me most.. Maxheader Sep 2024 #5
CA has many Trumpers, DonOld. Let 'em burn? Visit their burned out town and call it the wrong name? keithbvadu2 Sep 2024 #6
And this is how a 6'3 man" only with lifts" I Q of 73 thinks a U.S. President should act. ArmedLiberal24 Sep 2024 #7
What a fucking disgrace Orange Boy. Sickening. Anti-American. Go suck Vlad's ass. Sorry but Rude Pundit might agree? Evolve Dammit Sep 2024 #9
California is laughing at you Trumpo. twodogsbarking Sep 2024 #10
LOVING "Trumpo". The Clown!!!!!!!!! BurnDoubt Sep 2024 #30
Trump, once again, trying to run the country like one of his businesses sakabatou Sep 2024 #11
Similar to the "deal" he offered Zelenskyy. Marcuse Sep 2024 #12
"He's a lousy governor." And what a coincidence! no_hypocrisy Sep 2024 #14
No wedding for you, my dear. Sequoia Sep 2024 #26
Kimberly Gargoyle? BurnDoubt Sep 2024 #31
Cocaine and support of sexual abuse Farmer-Rick Sep 2024 #39
What a dirty, rotten, S.O.B. N/T tonekat Sep 2024 #15
I have no data to support my hypothesis, but... SpankMe Sep 2024 #16
I'm on the Oregon coast CanonRay Sep 2024 #27
They're making houses more expensive for people who live here ArkansasDemocrat1 Sep 2024 #42
I own 2 homes kimbutgar Sep 2024 #44
anyway past the paid site? DonCoquixote Sep 2024 #17
Try this Zorro Sep 2024 #18
thanks DonCoquixote Sep 2024 #34
Trump know he's not going to win California, but independents hear this kind of fascist threat too. Martin68 Sep 2024 #19
That should immediately disqualify him. JohnSJ Sep 2024 #20
What a miserable son of a bitch. LudwigPastorius Sep 2024 #21
How about this? No funds for the red states in case of a natural disaster, ungrateful bastards tornado34jh Sep 2024 #22
Even when the red states do get aid, they funnel it into their own pockets! Bastards PortTack Sep 2024 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #50
Which is telling, because honestly, they are lucky Biden was generous, if it were me, I wouldn't be as generous. tornado34jh Sep 2024 #52
Let it burn? The entire contiguous 48 states is down wind. In Minnesota we get California and Canadian progree Sep 2024 #23
I fail to understsnd how Figarosmom Sep 2024 #24
CAlifornia is lost to Trump MadameButterfly Sep 2024 #54
Are those papers along these lines...? Montauk6 Sep 2024 #25
Sign ze papers Old Man. OMGWTF Sep 2024 #47
Fuckface...you're the one rubbing elbows The Unmitigated Gall Sep 2024 #28
Shame if your state burned up Zambero Sep 2024 #29
So, he's going to frag his magat minions just to spite himself? BurnDoubt Sep 2024 #32
Same approach as Covid--send ad to red states, force blue states to find their own supplies and equipment. Lonestarblue Sep 2024 #33
who he repeatedly called "Newscum".... this motherfucking POS wants to be president? LymphocyteLover Sep 2024 #35
Who could have predicted "Kamala will send firemen" as a political ad? Vinca Sep 2024 #36
The federal government owns almost 50% of the total land in California. twodogsbarking Sep 2024 #37
Hmmm... moose65 Sep 2024 #38
Born in Long Beach, lived here all my life; I'll die here in OC. Magoo48 Sep 2024 #40
And yet... karin_sj Sep 2024 #41
I suspect TFG has some arsonists among his rabid supporters. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2024 #43
The idiot threatens CA....the 6th largest economy in the world. He's got turds for brains PortTack Sep 2024 #45
Some nice states your MAGAts have along the gulf coast lonely bird Sep 2024 #48
Having had an older brother killed in a wildfire elsewhere, I'm inclined to say, "fuck you, Drumpf, you Nazi" ... Harker Sep 2024 #53
This alone should disqualify this asshole. Freethinker65 Sep 2024 #55
What strikes me is why California? Metaphorical Sep 2024 #56
More evidence that he's got bats in his belfry ailsagirl Sep 2024 #57
I get the "fall over dead" part, but what is the A? kiri Sep 2024 #58
Google is your friend Zorro Sep 2024 #61
Melanomia said the same thing HagathaCrispy Sep 2024 #59
He actually did try to withhold federal emergency funding last time he was in office travelingthrulife Sep 2024 #60

ffr

(23,398 posts)
1. Blackmailer-in-chief. Trump is a piece of shit! He and the whole QOP need to be defeated soundly
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 06:37 PM
Sep 2024

this November!

Buzz cook

(2,899 posts)
51. Technically extortion
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 06:14 PM
Sep 2024

Nice little state ya got there, shame if something bad happened to it.

thucythucy

(9,103 posts)
2. There's a part of me that wishes the blue states could declare an embargo
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 06:38 PM
Sep 2024

on our tax dollars being funneled into red states.

How long would it be before people in those states would be begging for states like New York, California, Massachusetts, Connecticut etc, to come to their rescue?

Of course, dividing up the country is just what the MAGAts say they want. You know, the "Keep the government out of my Medicare!" folks.

No offense to all the good Democrats in those states, who of course shouldn't have to suffer on account of the idiocy of their fellow citizens.

But what would happen if President Biden said no more hurricane relief aid until Florida and Louisiana change their laws on abortion?

ck4829

(37,760 posts)
3. If he'll tolerate a wildfire storming through the country, he'll tolerate Putin doing the same
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 06:39 PM
Sep 2024

Response to ck4829 (Reply #3)

 

canuckledragger

(1,992 posts)
4. Boy, conservatives are SO jealous of California's 5th largest economy in the world
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 06:52 PM
Sep 2024

...as they desperately try to deflect attention away from their own mismanaged, crime-ridden shit hole red states.

Remember folks, every republican accusation is a confession.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,142 posts)
8. Exactly.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 07:34 PM
Sep 2024

I wonder if that orange gibbon is aware of what would happen if California decided to do the same thing to him?

Maxheader

(4,419 posts)
5. Don't know what scares me most..
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 06:57 PM
Sep 2024

the yellow haired american traitor, or the millions who will vote for him.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
6. CA has many Trumpers, DonOld. Let 'em burn? Visit their burned out town and call it the wrong name?
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 07:00 PM
Sep 2024

Evolve Dammit

(21,774 posts)
9. What a fucking disgrace Orange Boy. Sickening. Anti-American. Go suck Vlad's ass. Sorry but Rude Pundit might agree?
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 07:46 PM
Sep 2024

twodogsbarking

(18,777 posts)
10. California is laughing at you Trumpo.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 08:09 PM
Sep 2024

It is the largest sub-national economy in the world. If California were a nation it would rank in terms of nominal GDP as the world's fifth largest economy, behind Japan and ahead of India (3.937 trillion).

sakabatou

(46,145 posts)
11. Trump, once again, trying to run the country like one of his businesses
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 08:22 PM
Sep 2024

including blackmail.

no_hypocrisy

(54,904 posts)
14. "He's a lousy governor." And what a coincidence!
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 09:05 PM
Sep 2024

Newsom is ALSO the EX-HUSBAND of the FIANCEE of YOUR SON. (No wedding after 2+ years of engagement)

Not that it makes a difference . . . . . .

BurnDoubt

(1,720 posts)
31. Kimberly Gargoyle?
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 03:35 AM
Sep 2024

Pretty sure cocaine is needed to stand her "presence", SO...... 'Splains alot?????

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
39. Cocaine and support of sexual abuse
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 08:28 AM
Sep 2024

"In November, 2018, a young woman who had been one of Guilfoyle’s assistants at Fox News sent company executives a confidential, forty-two-page draft complaint that accused Guilfoyle of repeated sexual harassment, and demanded monetary relief. The document, which resulted in a multimillion-dollar out-of-court settlement."

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-secret-history-of-kimberly-guilfoyles-departure-from-fox

SpankMe

(3,720 posts)
16. I have no data to support my hypothesis, but...
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 09:18 PM
Sep 2024

...anecdotally I'd say a lot of the people leaving Cali are right-wingers fleeing the high cost of living for red states without state income tax and with lower housing costs. They had careers here and created a comparatively larger retirement nest egg due to higher California salaries. They bought their houses 30 years prior and sold them at inflated California prices taking 6 or 7 figures of tax free money with them to rural Arizona, Texas, Nevada or Utah.

With cons leaving at a higher rate then libs, I think the exodus is making Cali bluer overall.

At the same time, they're taking their suitcases full of cash into retirement and are inflating housing prices in these red states, fomenting anti-California sentiment even more.

No matter which way you cut it, Trump is a world class asshole.

CanonRay

(16,171 posts)
27. I'm on the Oregon coast
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:26 AM
Sep 2024

and we've had many climate refugees moving from Cali. Fires and heat. Lots of Sacramento, Fresno, and Paradise people.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
42. They're making houses more expensive for people who live here
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 11:28 AM
Sep 2024

They'll buy a house remotely for the asking instead of negotiating with the seller. I don't blame them, but then house prices rise without an increase in income.

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
44. I own 2 homes
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 12:28 PM
Sep 2024

The one I brought in the early 90’s and my childhood home I inherited and I get postcards and letters all the time offering to buy them sight unseen.

The house next door to me sold recently and it feels like the new owner brought it to flip.


Martin68

(27,741 posts)
19. Trump know he's not going to win California, but independents hear this kind of fascist threat too.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:01 PM
Sep 2024

LudwigPastorius

(14,723 posts)
21. What a miserable son of a bitch.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:37 PM
Sep 2024

Imagine living a life in which EVERY single human interaction you have is a transaction that you must "win".

Trump is a waste of protoplasm.

tornado34jh

(1,527 posts)
22. How about this? No funds for the red states in case of a natural disaster, ungrateful bastards
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:38 PM
Sep 2024

See if they can handle it themselves. Bet you they can't. In fact, I looked up the 11 most expensive natural disasters in US history. Do you want to know how many of them were in red states? Of the 11, at least 8 of them had the most damage in a red state, mainly Florida, Texas, and Louisiana. Heck, Texas and its power grid couldn't even handle the extreme winter in 2021, and that was in extremely rare circumstances, but a huge reason why it was so bad was due to decisions made years ago to be its own power grid. Mother Nature doesn't discriminate between red or blue states, but clearly some can handle it better than others.

Response to PortTack (Reply #46)

tornado34jh

(1,527 posts)
52. Which is telling, because honestly, they are lucky Biden was generous, if it were me, I wouldn't be as generous.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 06:23 PM
Sep 2024

When Hurricane Ian hit Florida in 2022 and the big Texas Freeze came in 2021, in both instances Biden could have easily have said, "No, you guys are ungrateful, you're on your own". Then they have the gall to complain about Biden/Harris. Such ungrateful bastards.

progree

(12,975 posts)
23. Let it burn? The entire contiguous 48 states is down wind. In Minnesota we get California and Canadian
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 11:09 PM
Sep 2024

Last edited Fri Sep 13, 2024, 11:39 PM - Edit history (1)

(mostly British Columbia) wildfire smoke, and plenty of it.

Figarosmom

(11,979 posts)
24. I fail to understsnd how
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 12:55 AM
Sep 2024

This would get him votes in California. Threatening them with letting them burn sounds more like a protection racket.

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
54. CAlifornia is lost to Trump
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 06:30 PM
Sep 2024

He isn't trying to get votes there. He thinks he'll get votes in swing states I guess for bullying California. Or maybe it's just for his base, and he'll steal the rest.

Montauk6

(9,339 posts)
25. Are those papers along these lines...?
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:13 AM
Sep 2024
Ich schwöre: Ich werde dem Führer des MAGA Reiches und Volkes
Donald J. Trump treu und gehorsam sein, die Gesetze beachten,
und meine Amtspflichten gewissenhaft erfüllen, so wahr mir Gott helfe.



The Unmitigated Gall

(4,710 posts)
28. Fuckface...you're the one rubbing elbows
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:29 AM
Sep 2024

And exchanging love letters with communist dictators. You’re the traitor who tried to overturn our democracy.

Zambero

(9,990 posts)
29. Shame if your state burned up
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:38 AM
Sep 2024

said the wannabee mob boss, who now resides in a state where climate refugees and victims of insurance cancellation are leaving in droves.

BurnDoubt

(1,720 posts)
32. So, he's going to frag his magat minions just to spite himself?
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 04:01 AM
Sep 2024

He should really consider how this will go down for them. Does he know THEY are the ones who live in the sticks (because they don't like being too near other people and certainly not "those people&quot ? Build your home smack in the middle of nowhere, clinging to a hillside at the end of a winding gravel road, surrounded by dry fuel in an increasingly fragile environment featuring extreme heat exacerbated by piss-poor fore-sight and management... WHAT COULD GO WRONG? So, yeah, let 'em burn, huh? Seems to me Kamala must be looking pretty good, compared to the "chiseler". Gotta love the guy's style, though.

Lonestarblue

(13,477 posts)
33. Same approach as Covid--send ad to red states, force blue states to find their own supplies and equipment.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 04:37 AM
Sep 2024

Which Jared frequently confiscated, and no one knows what he did with it. How much did he sell on the black market for himself while people in the US were dying from lack of supples?

LymphocyteLover

(9,844 posts)
35. who he repeatedly called "Newscum".... this motherfucking POS wants to be president?
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 07:38 AM
Sep 2024

what a fucking motherfucking piece of work

twodogsbarking

(18,777 posts)
37. The federal government owns almost 50% of the total land in California.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 08:05 AM
Sep 2024

Trump = Dumberthanshit.

moose65

(3,454 posts)
38. Hmmm...
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 08:22 AM
Sep 2024

I wonder if Trump knows that he got more votes in California than he got in any other state??

Magoo48

(6,721 posts)
40. Born in Long Beach, lived here all my life; I'll die here in OC.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 08:48 AM
Sep 2024

We don’t like him here; we don’t want him here. Ever. I’m happy enough with the California Republic. And, we are a Republic. I’m convinced that we, as well as the rest of the left coast, would not suffer Orange fascism for long.
At this point I’m fairly sure we won’t be bored by him or his handlers for much longer

Orange Man, go home. You don’t belong here. Eres un puto culo.

karin_sj

(1,370 posts)
41. And yet...
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 10:49 AM
Sep 2024

The hateful, racist MAGATs who reside in California will still vote for him. Even here in the Bay Area, we have quite a few popping off on Facebook and Nextdoor posts whenever they have the opportunity, blaming Newson for every problem that our state faces (especially anything to do with crime, the economy, homelessness, etc.). Luckily, they are vastly outnumbered by the sane residents. Get out of our state, Orange Moron! And take your MAGAT followers with you!

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,782 posts)
43. I suspect TFG has some arsonists among his rabid supporters.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 11:34 AM
Sep 2024

Just a hunch, based on other criminal events that seem to happen after his rallies.....

We can bet his hero Putin's trolls are fanning the flames on social media, too......

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
45. The idiot threatens CA....the 6th largest economy in the world. He's got turds for brains
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 12:32 PM
Sep 2024

lonely bird

(2,941 posts)
48. Some nice states your MAGAts have along the gulf coast
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 02:52 PM
Sep 2024

Be a shame if a hurricane came along…you might need federal aid.

Harker

(17,781 posts)
53. Having had an older brother killed in a wildfire elsewhere, I'm inclined to say, "fuck you, Drumpf, you Nazi" ...
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 06:28 PM
Sep 2024

but I have been so inclined for decades.

Thanks to inspirational DUer rzemanfl for the pithy statement.

Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
55. This alone should disqualify this asshole.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 06:30 PM
Sep 2024

Imagine is Biden refused to provide disaster aid to Texas, Louisiana, and/or Florida if they didn't codify women's reproductive rights, if they didn't stop passing state laws targeting LGTBQ communities, if they didn't rescind book /DEI bans, etc.

Trump got away with slow walking PPE (and even confiscating PPE to sell on the open market from states that tried to procure their own PPE) to blue cities at the start of COVID. Trump got away with delaying to California for fires already.

This partisan bullshit needs to stop.

Metaphorical

(2,634 posts)
56. What strikes me is why California?
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 06:46 PM
Sep 2024

Trump doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning California, and he's not the kind of person to go to a state to help downparty races when his momentum is clearly down. So why he is there?
My suspicion is that he's performing damage control with his Tech Bro investors who are getting cold feet after the debate.

kiri

(967 posts)
58. I get the "fall over dead" part, but what is the A?
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 12:56 AM
Sep 2024

"This guy can't FOAD quick enough."

I get the "fall over dead" part, but what is the A?

travelingthrulife

(5,179 posts)
60. He actually did try to withhold federal emergency funding last time he was in office
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 11:03 AM
Sep 2024

Blathering about how California should rake their forests better, etc.

Now there have been many more states impacted by huge fires. They may recognize the extortion more readily.

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