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Mosby

(19,491 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 07:23 PM Sep 2024

Pete Rose Dead At 83

Source: TMZ

MLB legend Pete Rose has died at the age of 83, TMZ Sports has learned.

Rose, Major League Baseball's hit king, passed away earlier today at his home in Las Vegas.

Pete's agent, Ryan Fiterman of Fiterman Sports, confirmed the news, saying, "the family is asking for privacy at this time."

Pete was one of the greatest baseball players to ever grace a diamond, earning 17 All-Star Game nods, winning three World Series and the 1973 N.L. MVP.

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Pete Rose Dead At 83 (Original Post) Mosby Sep 2024 OP
Damn, and Trump was going to pardon him . . . . . no_hypocrisy Sep 2024 #1
Why must trump be on every reply on every OP? jimfields33 Sep 2024 #2
you are the arbiter of posts? NoRethugFriends Sep 2024 #4
You missed my pretty please. Reread. jimfields33 Sep 2024 #17
I did not miss anything NoRethugFriends Sep 2024 #22
jimfields33 got 12 Rec's for that post Polybius Sep 2024 #32
Have thought about suggesting that DU schedule a 24 hour Trump day of silence PufPuf23 Sep 2024 #12
I doubt it could last two hours. jimfields33 Sep 2024 #18
That is why said scheduled but agreed with you. nt PufPuf23 Sep 2024 #19
Maybe because Rose was a Trump supporter SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2024 #26
One less vote. n/t aggiesal Sep 2024 #30
I'm not surprised Rose is a Trump fan since Prof. Toru Tanaka Sep 2024 #38
Because Trump supported Rose in the face of his baseball gambling Bengus81 Oct 2024 #54
It's OK, his buddy Mr. McMahon already inducted Rose in the WWE Hall of Fame Montauk6 Sep 2024 #27
Other teams feared him and rightfully so. He was one of the best. twodogsbarking Sep 2024 #3
he was a jerk who ruined a catcher's career in an All-Star game NoRethugFriends Sep 2024 #6
He and his wife were both jerks to many people JoseBalow Sep 2024 #16
Peter Edward Rose underpants Sep 2024 #9
Damn. A huge part of my early life. underpants Sep 2024 #5
Great baseball player ... SarcasticSatyr Sep 2024 #7
I was thinking the same thing TexasBushwhacker Oct 2024 #61
He'll probably get inducted into Cooperstown now Zorro Sep 2024 #8
Hopefully not before Shoeless Joe Jackson. DJ Synikus Makisimus Sep 2024 #11
I hope never. valleyrogue Sep 2024 #31
Nope. Never. AltairIV Sep 2024 #24
Actor Paul Giamatti was the son of MLB Commissioner Bart Giamatti ... aggiesal Sep 2024 #34
See ya, Pete. You were really good, but why did you stain your rep? OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2024 #10
Probably because he had a gambling addiction. maxsolomon Sep 2024 #20
Exactly. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2024 #21
Should pay for betting on baseball. I would not care about his betting on anything else. NoRethugFriends Sep 2024 #23
He did pay. maxsolomon Oct 2024 #58
Pete Clouds Passing Sep 2024 #13
Got a late timms139 Sep 2024 #14
That was unexpected BumRushDaShow Sep 2024 #15
Thanks for the memories My Friend BOSSHOG Sep 2024 #28
"Hopefully another such picture forthcoming." BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #46
Do you remember the 64 Season? BOSSHOG Oct 2024 #49
No but I can imagine BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #50
May Pete Rose Rest in Peace and May his Memory be a Blessing. n/t iluvtennis Sep 2024 #25
Memory of him is the farthest thing from a blessing. NoRethugFriends Oct 2024 #51
Saw him in Vegas once.. raising2moredems Sep 2024 #29
Great player but corrupt to the bone. ZonkerHarris Sep 2024 #33
On the bright side (for him), his lifetime ban is over. LudwigPastorius Sep 2024 #35
had to end sometime ZonkerHarris Sep 2024 #40
I have nothing nice to say. Lunabell Sep 2024 #36
Had he not been coaching/managing in MLB. . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2024 #37
He never should have been a manager. maxsolomon Oct 2024 #59
R.I.P., but... Tarc Sep 2024 #39
Pilloried for gambling yet last year MLB announced that Fan Duel was their Sports Betting Partner MichMan Sep 2024 #41
There's quite a difference between fans betting on games and participants betting on games. LudwigPastorius Sep 2024 #42
I'm guessing you missed this current fiasco BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #47
Rose was undoubtedly a great baseball player, but he deserved the lifetime ban. Music Man Oct 2024 #43
So many of the same ones moniss Oct 2024 #44
I didn't know he was that old. I would have guessed he was born in 1950. LeftInTX Oct 2024 #45
They probably would have lifted his lifetime ban... ECL213 Oct 2024 #48
Johnny Bench was saying today that Rose had been offered a chance maxsolomon Oct 2024 #62
Took grandkids trick or treating last Oct vapor2 Oct 2024 #52
Bah! Pete Rose tried to ruin America's Pastime. JohnnyRingo Oct 2024 #53
Rose's record as one of baseball's all-time greats cannot be disputed Zambero Oct 2024 #55
Now that MLB is partnered with FanDuel, Mawspam2 Oct 2024 #56
The NFL radically changed player rules about gambling Mosby Oct 2024 #57
Lifelong Red Sox fan. I will never forgive Pete Rose or Bob Gibson KPN Oct 2024 #60
Well, you got your WS wins in the Aughts, and then some. maxsolomon Oct 2024 #63
 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
2. Why must trump be on every reply on every OP?
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 07:27 PM
Sep 2024

Even an obituary. Enough please….pretty please.

PufPuf23

(9,822 posts)
12. Have thought about suggesting that DU schedule a 24 hour Trump day of silence
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 07:37 PM
Sep 2024

just to see if possible and for Democratic/DU team building.

aggiesal

(10,760 posts)
30. One less vote. n/t
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 09:30 PM
Sep 2024

When I was in Little League, I used a Louisville Slugger Hillerich & Bradsby, size 30 Pete Rose Little League bat.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,924 posts)
38. I'm not surprised Rose is a Trump fan since
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 10:09 PM
Sep 2024

they’re both liars. Rose lied about his gambling for years until he had a book (My Prison Without Bars) which came out in 2004.

Bengus81

(10,141 posts)
54. Because Trump supported Rose in the face of his baseball gambling
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 10:37 AM
Oct 2024

Meaning once again,Trump supports this kind of activity because it's a part of his damn life.

JoseBalow

(9,446 posts)
16. He and his wife were both jerks to many people
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 07:51 PM
Sep 2024

I knew them and interacted with them, and they both sucked at being decent humans.

underpants

(196,363 posts)
9. Peter Edward Rose
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 07:34 PM
Sep 2024

I heard Sparky say his whole name once and you could feel his appreciation for him.

Growing up when I did - see post below- we didn’t emulate flash, we had to be honest with ourselves about effort. The man in the mirror don’t lie.

underpants

(196,363 posts)
5. Damn. A huge part of my early life.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 07:30 PM
Sep 2024

Not just because we lived near and went to a lot of Reds games.

Hustle. No matter what you are playing you have to give it all every play.

I had all of the Big Red Machines signatures many times over. Bench was hard to get. I don’t know if we knew someone or just knew to go to a certain level of the parking lot next to Riverfront. We weren’t the only family there. I probably went to 10 games before I was 7. I had them all. Thus was before signatures had value. We moved a lot so eventually I cast them off. You can’t move everything you’ve ever had.

RIP Pete. Thanks.

valleyrogue

(2,698 posts)
31. I hope never.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 09:35 PM
Sep 2024

I don't get it with the apologists for this man who disgraced himself. They remind me of the Lance Armstrong defenders who even now still make excuses for his flagrant cheating in pro cycling.

aggiesal

(10,760 posts)
34. Actor Paul Giamatti was the son of MLB Commissioner Bart Giamatti ...
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 09:40 PM
Sep 2024

If you ask Paul Giamatti about Pete Rose, we would tell you that Pete Rose was the cause of his father's death.
I'm sure he would fight to keep Pete Rose out of the Baseball Hall Of Fame.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,087 posts)
10. See ya, Pete. You were really good, but why did you stain your rep?
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 07:36 PM
Sep 2024

Of course, today. you probably would get a pass.....

maxsolomon

(38,648 posts)
20. Probably because he had a gambling addiction.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 08:30 PM
Sep 2024

He sure paid for it - more than almost anyone else in MLB.

Certainly, more than Shohei Ohtani has, oh sorry, that was his interpreter.

maxsolomon

(38,648 posts)
58. He did pay.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 12:02 PM
Oct 2024

He'll never be in the HOF.

Listening to Johnny Bench talk about Rose on Dan Patrick this morning was tragic.

BumRushDaShow

(169,272 posts)
15. That was unexpected
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 07:44 PM
Sep 2024

and as many teams as he was on, he WAS a Philly at one time and on our 1980 World Series team.



BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
28. Thanks for the memories My Friend
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 09:15 PM
Sep 2024

Look at them hairdos. And a leisure Suit. Michael Jack Schmidt turned 75 last Friday (27 September.)

Hopefully another such picture forthcoming.

BumRushDaShow

(169,272 posts)
46. "Hopefully another such picture forthcoming."
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 05:50 AM
Oct 2024

I hope so too. I remember the Brad Lidge final play 16 years ago, which came 28 years after the 1980 miracle win for this city!



raising2moredems

(752 posts)
29. Saw him in Vegas once..
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 09:30 PM
Sep 2024

He did admit it sucked that Ron Santo did not get into the Hall of Fame until after he was dead. Should have got a picture with him - my pappaw was a big Reds fan (and full disclosure, my mammaw never tried to set him on fire). But the Blackhawks had a playoff game that night and that was first and foremost on my mind. Blackhawks won FYI.

DinahMoeHum

(23,586 posts)
37. Had he not been coaching/managing in MLB. . .
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 10:06 PM
Sep 2024

. . .Pete Rose would've been in the baseball HOF a long time ago. First ballot. No question. Even if there were issues of gambling while he was a player.
Players with worse character issues than that are in the HOF.

maxsolomon

(38,648 posts)
59. He never should have been a manager.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 12:05 PM
Oct 2024

It really wasn't his skill set.

So, in a way, this is Marge Schott's fault for hiring him.

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
39. R.I.P., but...
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 10:16 PM
Sep 2024

still not HoF-worthy. Unrepentant about his cheating to the very end.

MichMan

(17,105 posts)
41. Pilloried for gambling yet last year MLB announced that Fan Duel was their Sports Betting Partner
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 10:22 PM
Sep 2024

LudwigPastorius

(14,673 posts)
42. There's quite a difference between fans betting on games and participants betting on games.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 10:29 PM
Sep 2024

BumRushDaShow

(169,272 posts)
47. I'm guessing you missed this current fiasco
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 06:05 AM
Oct 2024
Shohei Ohtani gambling scandal: Interpreter Ippei Mizuhara pleads guilty, faces up to 33 years in prison


By Matt Snyder & R.J. Anderson
Jun 4, 2024 at 2:21 pm ET



USATSI

Ippei Mizuhara, the former interpreter for Dodgers superstar Shohei Ohtani, pleaded guilty to bank and tax fraud charges on Tuesday morning. He faces a maximum sentence of 33 years in prison, five years of supervised release and a fine of $1,250,000 and will be sentenced on October 25, according to ESPN's Alden Gonzalez. Mizuhara did not answer questions after leaving the courthouse.

Mizuhara's charges stemmed from the gambling scandal in which he was accused of stealing almost $17 million from the baseball player and using it to place illegal bets, the U.S Attorney's Office for the Central District of California announced on May 8.

Mizuhara, described by the Attorney's Office as Ohtani's "de facto manager," pleaded guilty to one count of bank fraud and one count of subscribing to a false tax return.

The 39-year-old former interpreter will be required to pay full restitution to his victims, which includes $16,975,010 to Victim A, Ohtani, and $1,149,400 to the IRS.

(snip)


This type of thing has really been a no-no for over a century thanks to this -



Of course this year, the White Sox have set another, rather unsavory record but I won't go into that.

Music Man

(1,664 posts)
43. Rose was undoubtedly a great baseball player, but he deserved the lifetime ban.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 12:53 AM
Oct 2024

Betting on games as manager, including betting against one's own team, is a serious ethical breach. He was in a position to change the outcomes of games. He stood to profit while adversely affecting the careers of his players. Anyone that says "people who've done worse are in the Hall of Fame" are engaging in whataboutism, not arguing the issue at hand.

moniss

(9,031 posts)
44. So many of the same ones
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 03:25 AM
Oct 2024

who condemned him in life, or after themselves being enriched by his play acted like they couldn't speak his name, are now the ones to issue praise. There is always nothing so shallow as those who do this. You see it at funerals where people come and say things about the deceased that are a 180 degree turn from what they had been saying while the person had life. Moochers probably showing up to see if there is food after the funeral. I've had a belly full of such funerals in my life and been witness to many more.

Major League Baseball issued their hollow sympathies. It goes without saying the weasel nature of MLB being more than happy to make money off of the career of Pete Rose while proclaiming him to be pariah. Not another word MLB. Just STFU. At long last leave the name of Pete Rose out of your mouth. You never deserved him and on his worst day on earth he was still more as a human being than the MLB brass and the ones who turned away.

LeftInTX

(34,208 posts)
45. I didn't know he was that old. I would have guessed he was born in 1950.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 04:28 AM
Oct 2024

Last edited Tue Oct 1, 2024, 11:18 AM - Edit history (1)

Full disclosure: I don't follow sports very much.

maxsolomon

(38,648 posts)
62. Johnny Bench was saying today that Rose had been offered a chance
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 02:46 PM
Oct 2024

if he'd come clean publicly, but couldn't swallow his pride.

vapor2

(4,448 posts)
52. Took grandkids trick or treating last Oct
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 10:35 AM
Oct 2024

and Pete was one block over signing $2 bills for every trick or treater. Have to add that he did serve jail time and repaid the IRS.

JohnnyRingo

(20,845 posts)
53. Bah! Pete Rose tried to ruin America's Pastime.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 10:36 AM
Oct 2024

Gambling on baseball when he's directly involved in the sport takes it to a level with WWE Wrestling.
We can't believe any outcome or umpire call if mobsters and bookies are paying off players to throw games. Gambling debts are the easiest way to recruit players and managers into the corruption, and a team member can bet against their own team, then cash in.

He should never be seen as a hero of the game as an example to others.

Zambero

(9,976 posts)
55. Rose's record as one of baseball's all-time greats cannot be disputed
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 10:45 AM
Oct 2024

However, his willingness to corrupt the sport for his own personal gain cannot be overlooked. MLB made the right decision and stood by it.

Mawspam2

(1,102 posts)
56. Now that MLB is partnered with FanDuel,
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 10:51 AM
Oct 2024

perhaps MLB could posthumously drop its HoF ban.

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
57. The NFL radically changed player rules about gambling
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 11:51 AM
Oct 2024

New rules:

Don’t bet on the NFL.
Don’t gamble at your team facility while traveling for a road game or staying at a team hotel.
Don’t have someone bet for you.
Don’t share team “inside information.”
Don’t enter a sportsbook during the NFL playing season.
Don’t play daily fantasy football (DFS).

So they can bet on anything they want other than football, that's a complete 180 from the previous policies.

KPN

(17,351 posts)
60. Lifelong Red Sox fan. I will never forgive Pete Rose or Bob Gibson
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 01:52 PM
Oct 2024

for their 4 games to 3 World Series victory over the Sox in 1975! A heartbreaker!

Otherwise, I have mixed feelings about Rose, both as a ball player and a person. His “hustle” sometimes appeared to be more showmanship to me at least.

maxsolomon

(38,648 posts)
63. Well, you got your WS wins in the Aughts, and then some.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 02:50 PM
Oct 2024

Reds had '90 (right after they'd fired Rose and hired a real manager, Lou Pinella), and floundering futility since then.

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