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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 06:48 PM Dec 2012

Michigan Governor Rick Snyder Signs Laws Restricting Unions (Right To Work)

Source: Reuters

Dec 11 (Reuters) - Michigan's Republican Governor Rick Snyder on Wednesday signed into law a pair of measures banning mandatory membership of labor unions in a state that is home to the auto industry and birthplace of the United Auto Workers union.

His signature makes Michigan the nation's 24th "right-to-work" state and only the second in the industrial Midwest.

"I have signed these bills into law," Snyder said at a press conference.

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Opponents of the laws have vowed to try to overturn them in the courts or through a ballot initiative. They also could try to force recall elections of some lawmakers who supported right-to-work.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/11/usa-unions-michigan-sign-idUSL1E8NBF0B20121211

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Michigan Governor Rick Snyder Signs Laws Restricting Unions (Right To Work) (Original Post) Purveyor Dec 2012 OP
dear michigan, you voted for these people. hope you're happy with the outcomes nt msongs Dec 2012 #1
Yes, this is one of the things I do not understand. jwirr Dec 2012 #3
It is understandable. earthside Dec 2012 #18
I voted, but if my dislike for republicans wasn't so strong, I would have stayed home for those bloomington-lib Dec 2012 #22
The Gov. race was 58%/40%. So roughly 40% of Mi. voters did not vote Repub. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #10
that is the problem, what did they think would happen? A lot of labor also voted for Reagan because still_one Dec 2012 #15
A lot of voters are perfectly fine cutting off their noses to spite their face. Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #19
General Strike Time... rsmith6621 Dec 2012 #2
Yep. I saw this coming RE: MI a mile away.......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #20
its gotta happen! putitinD Dec 2012 #34
Methinks he just signed his political death warrant. DinahMoeHum Dec 2012 #4
He has already said that he doesn't think he running michreject Dec 2012 #9
Of course not. He was installed to do this very thing, then high-tail it out of Lansing. marmar Dec 2012 #14
Yeah, he was only installed to rubber stamp orders from ALEC Blue_Tires Dec 2012 #24
I thought that the minute he 'flip-flopped' and allowed the fast-tracking of this legislation. Sad Purveyor Dec 2012 #16
You mean like Walker did? Doctor_J Dec 2012 #31
Blaming the whole damn thing on Proposition 2. Liar. eom Purveyor Dec 2012 #5
Liberal Michigan voters who didn't bother to vote in 2010... BlueDemKev Dec 2012 #6
Include liberals who voted repuke upaloopa Dec 2012 #8
You are correct. llmart Dec 2012 #36
When I lived in Kalamazoo I voted for Ford upaloopa Dec 2012 #43
It doesn't effect current in place contracts upaloopa Dec 2012 #7
Spam deleted by SidDithers (MIR Team) TForbster Dec 2012 #11
Organize! markbark Dec 2012 #12
Actually, let's give then $0.01 per day. Panasonic Dec 2012 #29
What a Christmas Gift MissNostalgia Dec 2012 #13
Snyder and Michigan Republicans BE10sCoach Dec 2012 #17
Kochsucker warrprayer Dec 2012 #21
wow...I can hardly believe SoapBox Dec 2012 #23
The hashtag to follow is #righttowork Coyotl Dec 2012 #25
DU these: Michigan Democratic Party, Michigan Senate Democrats, Michigan House Democrats Coyotl Dec 2012 #26
Time for the feds to step in and cancel all federal monies to both Wisconsin and Michigan until Panasonic Dec 2012 #27
Wait a minute jehop61 Dec 2012 #38
Wait a minute, nothing. Snyder lied to you, and it's time to take action - and it's time for a Panasonic Dec 2012 #40
That would set a great precedent joeglow3 Dec 2012 #44
DU this LATimes poll:Do you support "right-to-work" legislation? Coyotl Dec 2012 #28
I voted FUCK NO. and it is at 42%. Rate it up Panasonic Dec 2012 #30
As seen here and in WI, organizing and protesting Doctor_J Dec 2012 #32
People should harass and protest wherever he goes in the state. kimbutgar Dec 2012 #33
He's a 1%er..... llmart Dec 2012 #37
Time to organize a massive low wage workers union nationwide and economy wide Coyotl Dec 2012 #35
We in Michigan need to do the same thing Ohio did in response muntrv Dec 2012 #39
I thought this was a lame duck legislature. randome Dec 2012 #41
Snyder for 2016? question everything Dec 2012 #42

earthside

(6,960 posts)
18. It is understandable.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:30 PM
Dec 2012

And ... there is an important lesson here.

Democrats do not get out to vote when their leader (in this case Pres. Obama in December 2009) caves on ending the Bush tax cuts for those making over $250,000 a year.

Make no mistake, the reason Democrats stayed home in the 2010 elections was because Pres. Obama let go of the health care insurance reform called the 'public option' and because he caved on the tax cut question in 2009.

It is absolutely vital that we don't let Pres. Obama negotiate or compromise away the most core, fundamental values during this 'fiscal cliff' event ... or we will have a repeat of the Tea Party wave election of 2010 in 2014.

bloomington-lib

(946 posts)
22. I voted, but if my dislike for republicans wasn't so strong, I would have stayed home for those
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:03 PM
Dec 2012

exact reasons...especially the renewal of the Bush tax cuts. I lost a lot of wind in my sail at that time.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
10. The Gov. race was 58%/40%. So roughly 40% of Mi. voters did not vote Repub.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:00 PM
Dec 2012

Snyder also bankrolled his own campaign to the tune of $6mill. First Guv other than Romney who had never held elective office and took the state's top spot.

still_one

(92,116 posts)
15. that is the problem, what did they think would happen? A lot of labor also voted for Reagan because
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:07 PM
Dec 2012

They were angry with Carter

I would like to believe everyone has learned a very hard lesson from this

Not only labor, but women, minorities, and those who believe in "we the people".

By the way that doesn't include corporations, they are not people

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
19. A lot of voters are perfectly fine cutting off their noses to spite their face.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:30 PM
Dec 2012

And then they get all angry and emotional when things don't turn out like they expected.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
20. Yep. I saw this coming RE: MI a mile away..........
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:36 PM
Dec 2012

When I first saw there was going to be demonstrations called for THE DAY THE BILL WAS SCHEDULED TO BE SIGNED! You would think that we learned from Wisconsin that the electoral route is NOT going to work. Even CONTINUING demonstrations will not work. The only thing that has a chance of working IS strikes, the more widespread the better. Now the Kochs, their toadies like Snyder, and their apologists can say, "Well it's over with now. You're just going to have to live with it until you can repeal it. You might as well give up until the next election."

There should have been Wisconsin style demonstrations from the first time this was even mentioned coupled with a statewide general strike.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
24. Yeah, he was only installed to rubber stamp orders from ALEC
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:20 PM
Dec 2012

I'm sure his puppetmasters will always have some political use for him...

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
16. I thought that the minute he 'flip-flopped' and allowed the fast-tracking of this legislation. Sad
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:13 PM
Dec 2012

day for Michigan and the American working class.

Sad, indeed.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
6. Liberal Michigan voters who didn't bother to vote in 2010...
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 06:56 PM
Dec 2012

...are solely to blame for this. The Rethugs are doing exactly what they promised they would do if they were elected. If we don't find a way to motivate our party base to GET OUT AND VOTE in MIDTERMS, we will continue to see assaults on over a half-century of progress.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
8. Include liberals who voted repuke
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 06:57 PM
Dec 2012

People believed they were voting for a business man with a plan to create jobs.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
36. You are correct.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:53 PM
Dec 2012

I worked with people who were staunch Democrats who told me they voted for Snyder. They were hoodwinked into thinking he was a nonpolitical, centrist businessman. Many lived in Lansing or the Lansing area and said they didn't really like Bernero and I tried to convince them that Snyder would be a true Repuke, but no, they didn't listen. Shortly thereafter these same coworkers were saying, "I am so sorry I voted for him. Look what he's doing."

What do you say to people like this? These are people who are highly educated.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
43. When I lived in Kalamazoo I voted for Ford
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:56 AM
Dec 2012

They kept telling us that as Michigan resident it was our duty because Ford would protect the auto industry. I am sorry since it is the only time I voted for a repub. So I can understand how you can go over to the dark side.

markbark

(1,559 posts)
12. Organize!
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:00 PM
Dec 2012

Organize and get a measure on next year's ballot:
If passed it would reduce the salary of members of the legislative and executive branches to minimum wage with NO benefits. Additionally, they would be prohibited from working for any lobbying firm for a period of ten years after leaving office.

Karma's a bitch sometimes.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
29. Actually, let's give then $0.01 per day.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:24 PM
Dec 2012

Then the Republicans may be disinclined to run again.

ALEC needs to be exposed, indicted, and sentenced to DEATH.

BE10sCoach

(48 posts)
17. Snyder and Michigan Republicans
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:16 PM
Dec 2012

These pieces of "human excrement", especially Snyder need to be removerd from office. Snyder lied and went back on his word and this Republican controlled legislature didn't have the guts to wait till the next legislature is sworn in in January or to put it to a vote by the citizens of the state. They had to force and rush it through ASAP, SHAME. Bottom line is in 2010 Democrats and Independents sat home and allowed a small turnout of "Right Wing Nutbags" to take controll of Michigan and many other states and the country is now paying the price (Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida, Ohio) to point out a few states. Organize and vote this "Pond Scum" out in 2014!

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
23. wow...I can hardly believe
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:06 PM
Dec 2012

that this filthy bastard had the balls to do this.

I hope the state comes to a grinding halt over this.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
26. DU these: Michigan Democratic Party, Michigan Senate Democrats, Michigan House Democrats
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:22 PM
Dec 2012

On Facebook:

Michigan House Democrats
5,855 likes
http://www.facebook.com/MIHouseDems

=============================
Michigan Democratic Party
14,050 likes
http://www.facebook.com/michigandems

=============================
Michigan Senate Democrats
5,945 likes
http://www.facebook.com/MichiganSenateDemocrats

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
27. Time for the feds to step in and cancel all federal monies to both Wisconsin and Michigan until
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:22 PM
Dec 2012

the laws are repealed and permanently buried.

Snyder is a snake, and CAN BE subject to a recall, and I hope it happens - fast.

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
38. Wait a minute
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:59 PM
Dec 2012

There are a lot of good progressive DUers in Mi. who voted for Democrats. We should not be punished or tarnished with those who are idiots in this state.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
40. Wait a minute, nothing. Snyder lied to you, and it's time to take action - and it's time for a
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 09:59 PM
Dec 2012

massive recall effort - every single Republican that is subject to recall needs to be recalled NOW.

Elections can be kicked in tomorrow, if forced to do so.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
30. I voted FUCK NO. and it is at 42%. Rate it up
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:26 PM
Dec 2012

Why are there morons that think it's good idea to work for less money?

Union STRONG.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
32. As seen here and in WI, organizing and protesting
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:32 PM
Dec 2012

are USELESS. Time to think big, messy thoughts to get the country back

kimbutgar

(21,111 posts)
33. People should harass and protest wherever he goes in the state.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:36 PM
Dec 2012

If he's in restaurant tweet where he is. Make his life miserable. The "F"er needs to feel the wrath of the people.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
37. He's a 1%er.....
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:57 PM
Dec 2012

He doesn't exactly hang out at places you or I frequent. He rubs elbows only with the elite in Ann Arbor or Lansing. It's not likely you'll see him shopping in a K-Mart or the mall.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
35. Time to organize a massive low wage workers union nationwide and economy wide
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:47 PM
Dec 2012

workers united - the LLWU

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
41. I thought this was a lame duck legislature.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 11:10 PM
Dec 2012

Don't Democrats have the majority starting next year? If so, can't they overturn this?

question everything

(47,462 posts)
42. Snyder for 2016?
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:35 AM
Dec 2012

I suppose he will be the "fresh face" the Republicans will be looking for. And busting unions will be a good introductory card.

Still having hard time to understand how can someone like that succeed Jennifer Granholm.

And Romney lost Michigan because he wanted Detroit to fail so how can so many vote for Republicans? OK, so Michiganders are stuck with Snyder until 2014, but what about the House and the Senate?

Jon Stewart, again, had a good take on this. And he had a fair imitation of M&M, er.. Eminem.

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