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BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 06:25 AM Oct 2024

Harris allies seek to keep the 'Biden coalition' in the fold

Source: NBC News

Oct. 26, 2024, 6:55 PM EDT


As President Joe Biden fought to remain in the presidential race this summer, advisers often argued there existed a “Biden coalition” — a cohort only the incumbent could hold together. With Vice President Kamala Harris atop the Democratic ticket, there has been a shift in the focus on these voters, like white working-class voters in places like Pennsylvania, seniors and union members.

A pro-Harris super PAC has been running a series of ads — in heavy rotation during the Major League Baseball playoffs — featuring testimonials from working-class voters, as well as voters who say they previously backed former President Donald Trump, that echo Biden’s message. A coalition of labor groups targeting union members in battleground states is pointing to Biden’s term in office. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., has trained his sights on keeping voters who backed Trump in 2016 and Biden in 2020 in the Democratic camp with a populist, progressive pitch that leans on Biden’s accomplishments.

And Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, Harris’ running mate, has had a campaign itinerary that closely mirrors what Biden’s had been in this and previous election cycles. On Friday in Scranton, Pennsylvania — Biden’s hometown — Walz made the case for a new Democratic candidate by highlighting their shared values.

“That patriotism, that fierce patriotism, putting the American people first, is exactly what guides Kamala Harris in the course of her entire career,” Walz said at the same venue where Biden gave an economic address in April.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/kamala-harris-allies-seek-keep-biden-coalition-fold-rcna177419

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Harris allies seek to keep the 'Biden coalition' in the fold (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 OP
srsly? there's a single biden voter who isnt voting for harris? mopinko Oct 2024 #1
The misogyny is out there BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #3
even so. mopinko Oct 2024 #5
With some of them it does BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #6
it's 1 of at least a half doz targets. mopinko Oct 2024 #7
Oh I know they are hitting every demographic BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #9
Highly annoying that this is even an issue... paleotn Oct 2024 #2
Misogynistic men BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #4
Magat stupidity. paleotn Oct 2024 #8
Its a cultural, multigeneration thing that is difficult to dislodge BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #10
I get it. Unfortunately true. I guess I was lucky paleotn Oct 2024 #11
You and your wife sunnybrook Oct 2024 #13
definitely et tu Oct 2024 #14
Dont forget, media of all types loves to ramp up conflict/controversy/make mountains out of molehills Kashkakat v.2.0 Oct 2024 #12
Democrats have always been a "coalition" BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #16
Oh please Botany Oct 2024 #15

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
1. srsly? there's a single biden voter who isnt voting for harris?
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:01 AM
Oct 2024

c’mon man. that’s a load of malarkey.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
3. The misogyny is out there
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:26 AM
Oct 2024

especially from some of those blue collar men who never got the memo.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
5. even so.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:30 AM
Oct 2024

i agree misogyny is still out there. i cant believe it changes their votes at this point.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
6. With some of them it does
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:36 AM
Oct 2024

This is why you are suddenly seeing the entire campaign (candidates and most of the surrogates) out there focusing on "men" - whether older ones or most intensely, the younger ones. That is something I have never seen the DNC literally micro-target before.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
7. it's 1 of at least a half doz targets.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:55 AM
Oct 2024

they’re reaching out to every segment of the population. that doesnt mean they’re worried.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
9. Oh I know they are hitting every demographic
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:22 AM
Oct 2024

but the granularity is finer this go around.

I.e., this sort of thing - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143329210

Democrats have ceded men to the GOP and this has been one of the biggest efforts to address that.

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
2. Highly annoying that this is even an issue...
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:14 AM
Oct 2024
"I voted for Biden but I'm not too sure about Harris, so I'll go all stupid this time and let the orange fascist win and democracy die."

Really? That sounds like magat stupidity to me.

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
8. Magat stupidity.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:13 AM
Oct 2024

I can see the headline now...Men burn down 200+ years of American democracy because of their weak, fragile masculinity. Well, we've fucked up nearly everything else. Why not this?

On the flip side, women have been driving election results since Dobbs. For every man who can't bring himself to vote for Harris (psst...just stay home, men. It's just as good) 1 or more women won't be voting for Donny this time.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
10. Its a cultural, multigeneration thing that is difficult to dislodge
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:37 AM
Oct 2024

I think one of the underlying themes of that "Barbie" movie, is exactly that.

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
11. I get it. Unfortunately true. I guess I was lucky
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:11 AM
Oct 2024

A long history of strong women in my family. Safe to assume that shapes my view on things. Dad was affable yet not a man to be trifled with. Strongest man I ever knew. He could handle being equal partners with a strong, opinionated woman, my mom. My sisters are the same. My grandmothers could put a foot up someone's ass. Growing up, I could never understand some of my friend's moms being such door mice. It made no sense.

Funny, my wife's family was nearly a carbon copy in the regard. Probably why we've been together for 30+.

sunnybrook

(1,277 posts)
13. You and your wife
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:48 AM
Oct 2024

Were very lucky in the extreme! This is how children should be raised to think of men and women.

et tu

(2,387 posts)
14. definitely
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 12:04 PM
Oct 2024

and it shows- most women felt the movie was
indicative of the status of women, most men were
meh or ick. and where is the equal rights amendment????

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,940 posts)
12. Dont forget, media of all types loves to ramp up conflict/controversy/make mountains out of molehills
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:29 AM
Oct 2024

I think Ms. Harris approach to form kind of a "coalition government" is exactly the right approach, what is needed at this time. The "sick of Drump" is a large constituency and "big tent" is an old Dem tradition. We can go back to our regularly scheduled programming after neo-fascism is pushed back down into the shadowy fringes where it belongs.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
16. Democrats have always been a "coalition"
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 12:27 PM
Oct 2024

But what is unique is that it has gotten so bad, that we are bringing in not just "moderate" GOP but the further-to-the-right ones who haven't gone completely MAGat/loon.

When Obama won in 2008, he was able to bring in a bunch of crossover-GOP votes from people who were tired of Shrub's wars AND what became "The Great Recession" (and he was actually "taking charge" when it came to discussions about the "bailout" while he was campaigning).


Mr. McCain and Mr. Obama met with President George W. Bush and congressional leaders struggling to pass a bailout.Credit...Doug Mills/The New York Times

He did this by evoking Raygun-style imagery (right down to the campaign logo). Harris has gone even further with the imagery and symbolism, pulling in what is left of the GOP.

How many of them will actually vote for any at the top of the ticket is still up in the air, but every vote counts!

Botany

(77,324 posts)
15. Oh please
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 12:16 PM
Oct 2024

What codswallop. President Joe Biden and his people are 100% behind Harris.
The more I see and think about it the transition from Joe to Kamala had been in
the works for a long time.

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