Walmart just leveled with Americans: China won't be paying for Trump's tariffs, in all likelihood you will
Source: Fortune
Voters who returned Donald Trump to the Oval Office in the hope that living costs would return to the halcyon days before the pandemic may be in for a shock.
Arkansas-based Walmart, the worlds largest retailer that traditionally has catered to working and middle-class Americans, warned the President-elects plans to hike import duties across the board will be felt by everyday consumers.
Tariffs are going to be inflationary, theres no disputing that, Walmart finance chief John David Rainey told Fox News on Thursday.
Thats not the message the Trump campaign took to the nation during the 2024 election race, however. During the campaign, the former president asked whether voters were better off than they were a little under five years ago, when the seeds of inflation were sown with the outbreak of the COVID virus.
The resounding answer was no, as two-thirds of the population were dissatisfied with the state of the economy. Coast to coast, Americans felt a deep-seated resentment at spiraling prices on everything from gasoline to groceries and restaurant visits.
Read more: https://archive.ph/yPAQa
Think. Again.
(18,570 posts)Magoo48
(5,468 posts)TomSlick
(11,949 posts)Tariffs are paid by the consumer, wherever purchased.
The increase in prices everywhere will result in inflation,
Magoo48
(5,468 posts)TomSlick
(11,949 posts)I hope I'm being a pessimist but I expect run-away inflation and recession.
Magoo48
(5,468 posts)hlthe2b
(106,571 posts)SOBs... Every one of them. I try hard not to shop at Walmart, but there are things that I can't find elsewhere. sigh... Still, this makes me determined to see if I can live without those few items.
Probatim
(3,035 posts)All the while, they'll rake in billions in profits and subsidize their payrolls with our tax dollars through welfare benefits.
FakeNoose
(35,898 posts)... because Chump just made it so easy for them.
Anyone who voted for Chump is a complete asshole!
ificandream
(10,610 posts)The problem was the stupids who voted for him ignored it.
hlthe2b
(106,571 posts)would know that, but few if any retailers of any kind spoke out.
ificandream
(10,610 posts)By PAUL WISEMAN and CHRISTOPHER RUGABER
Updated 6:02 PM PST, October 15, 2024
Its a message tailored for Americans who are still exasperated by the jump in consumer prices that began 3 1/2 years ago.
Yet most mainstream economists say Trumps policy proposals wouldnt vanquish inflation. Theyd make it worse. They warn that his plans to impose huge tariffs on imported goods, deport millions of migrant workers and demand a voice in the Federal Reserves interest rate policies would likely send prices surging.
Sixteen Nobel Prize-winning economists signed a letter in June expressing fear that Trumps proposals would reignite inflation, which has plummeted since peaking at 9.1% in 2022 and is nearly back to the Feds 2% target.
Read more: https://apnews.com/article/trump-inflation-tariffs-taxes-immigration-federal-reserve-a18de763fcc01557258c7f33cab375ed
Basso8vb
(410 posts)But I already never shop there.
ificandream
(10,610 posts)You'll see the effects of those tariffs everywhere - Walmart, Target, Amazon, everywhere people shop. There were voices telling people that the tariffs were gonna cause inflation. But too many people were caught up in Trumpmania to pay attention.
onecaliberal
(36,186 posts)Though I bought exactly the same things.
It was my last shopping there.
Ray Bruns
(4,678 posts)JoseBalow
(5,482 posts)VMA131Marine
(4,674 posts)there are lots of products that are only made in China and when there are domestically made alternatives they cost 3X or 4X more.
And the other reality is we dont have the workforce to repatriate a lot of that production when unemployment is around 4% and the Orange idiot is talking about deporting 10-20 million people.
Trumps proposed tariffs along with mass deportation will bring back inflation on steroids. But at the same time it could cause the price of housing to crash because you cant remove that many people from the population without creating a huge housing surplus.
valleyrogue
(1,144 posts)I just laugh at people who look down on Walmart and those who shop there while ignoring the simple fact ALL retailers do it.
The time to complain was back in the 1980s, when Reagan's economic policies "offshored" millions of manufacturing jobs overseas.
valleyrogue
(1,144 posts)I just laugh at people who look down on Walmart and those who shop there while ignoring the simple fact ALL retailers do it..
The time to complain was back in the 1980s, when Reagan's economic policies "offshored" millions of manufacturing jobs overseas.
C0RI0LANUS
(1,670 posts)Thom Hartmann castigated Walmart years ago for destroying independent businesses like Mom and Pop shops throughout the US. People phoned in his radio show and said the same thing: Drive through America and every town looked the same thanks to Walmart, after they wiped out all the unique emporiums and stores many hamlets once enjoyed. I remember as a child the different stores my parents took me to in various villages.
And Walmart reportedly made backroom deals with local municipalities that if they opened up a store, no bowling alleys, arcades, etc could be allowed within a 25 mile radius of their "employment-providing" megastore. Walmart wanted shopping to be the entertainment for the townsfolk. And Walmart would pay teenagers and senior citizens strictly minimum wage.
I usually provide sources to my posts, but this was a radio show from many years ago.
BTW: A small town store somehow survived a Walmart:
https://dianeravitch.net/2022/05/07/how-a-small-town-store-survives-despite-walmart/
Other links about Walmart and the environment and unions:
https://truthout.org/video/on-the-news-with-thom-hartmann-walmart-is-one-of-the-world-s-biggest-consumers-of-coal-and-more/
https://www.populardemocracy.org/news/how-walmart-persuades-its-workers-not-unionize
LetMyPeopleVote
(155,064 posts)Consumers will bear the cost of any tariffs.
Link to tweet
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/19/walmart-says-new-trump-tariffs-could-raise-prices.html
We never want to raise prices, he said in an interview with CNBC on Tuesday. Our model is everyday low prices. But there probably will be cases where prices will go up for consumers.
Rainey added that its too soon to say which products could cost more due to the tariffs.
Walmarts CFO weighed in on the potential policy change as the largest U.S. retailer beat Wall Streets earnings and sales expectations and hiked its full-year forecast. Lowes also addressed the risk posed by the tariff proposal as the home improvement company reported earnings on Tuesday.
Walmarts and Lowes comments are the latest warnings from U.S. retail leaders about the potential blowback from from the duties. During Trumps presidential campaign, he said he would impose a 10% to 20% tariff on all imports, including levies as high as 60% to 100% for goods from China.
cstanleytech
(27,116 posts)underpants
(186,984 posts)In a hot second.
cstanleytech
(27,116 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,711 posts)Even if every other shareholder, every other board member, decided to accept lower profits, the Walton heirs won't let it happen. They don't even give their employees discounts on groceries; only on non grocery items.
Windy Apple
(45 posts)trump for president, but they dont want the tariffs !!
SupportSanity
(1,163 posts)Thanks, China.
Deminpenn
(16,342 posts)That's going to shock the cult.
The morning of the day after the election I was in Walmart picking up a couple things. The store wasn't real busy so I stopped to chat with the greeter. As we're talking, an older woman pushing a cart wheels past. She's obviously happy and asks the greeter if she knows why she, the customer, is so happy. Of couse it was because Trump won and would fix everything. She couldn't wait to get home and have a noisy celebration to annoy her next door neighbor who was apparently a proud, open about it Dem. I said to be a good neigbbor and be gracious. The greeter said something similar, but I'm sure that advice went in one ear and out the other.
I wonder what her reaction was when she tuned in FoxNews and heard Walmart say prices would naturally go up with Trump tariffs?
sakabatou
(43,191 posts)Bluejeans
(93 posts)If a "Trump Recession" happens in 2025 due to tariffs, expect the 2026 mid-terms to be a bloodbath for the GOP.
republianmushroom
(17,939 posts)mathematic
(1,521 posts)Tariffs are bad economic policy and you need strong non-economic reasons to even begin to justify putting them in place.
spooky3
(36,321 posts)underpants
(186,984 posts)He cant really implement them.
Blue_Tires
(56,212 posts)Trump has no fucking idea how anything works, so he can only try to bully people... And when that doesn't work, he folds and declares victory anyway.
underpants
(186,984 posts)Blue_Tires
(56,212 posts)My true rage is reserved for those who continue to enable him, because now he truly is this out of control Frankenstein monster.
The Madcap
(513 posts)Buy even less of everything....the only possible response.
Ocelot II
(121,223 posts)of obesity in leopards.
travelingthrulife
(876 posts)What is Fortune babbling about.
UpInArms
(51,845 posts)Blue_Tires
(56,212 posts)That educated adults really believe Donnie's cult actually gives a shit about "living costs"...
The day after Donnie is coronated, he'll immediately take full credit for Biden's economy and the booming stock market and officially declare the crisis "solved" and the media will lap it up and praise him as some kind of economic genius... And further into his term when the economy really DOES falter, Donnie and his cultists will simply dismiss all critical stories as "fake news". I know this because we saw the exact same thing play out in 2017. We've ALL seen this reality TV show before, I have no idea why anyone is expecting a different outcome from him or his cult...
Donnie is going to fail spectacularly as he always does, the only real question is how many millions of lives are going to be sacrificed at the altar of his Almighty Ego before it's all over.
Aussie105
(6,367 posts)Stick a tariff on Chinese imports and the country will get rich!
Sucks to be a dumb moran really.
They obviously don't remember 'Mexico will pay for the wall' and how that turned out.
If it actually happens, prices will shoot up and buyer resistance will seize up the economy.
Careful who you vote for! OOPS, TOO LATE!