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UpInArms

(51,845 posts)
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 01:35 PM Nov 22

Walmart just leveled with Americans: China won't be paying for Trump's tariffs, in all likelihood you will

Source: Fortune

Voters who returned Donald Trump to the Oval Office in the hope that living costs would return to the halcyon days before the pandemic may be in for a shock.

Arkansas-based Walmart, the world’s largest retailer that traditionally has catered to working and middle-class Americans, warned the President-elect’s plans to hike import duties across the board will be felt by everyday consumers.

“Tariffs are going to be inflationary, there’s no disputing that,” Walmart finance chief John David Rainey told Fox News on Thursday.

That’s not the message the Trump campaign took to the nation during the 2024 election race, however. During the campaign, the former president asked whether voters were better off than they were a little under five years ago, when the seeds of inflation were sown with the outbreak of the COVID virus.
The resounding answer was no, as two-thirds of the population were dissatisfied with the state of the economy. Coast to coast, Americans felt a deep-seated resentment at spiraling prices on everything from gasoline to groceries and restaurant visits.

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Walmart just leveled with Americans: China won't be paying for Trump's tariffs, in all likelihood you will (Original Post) UpInArms Nov 22 OP
Duh. Think. Again. Nov 22 #1
We will not be paying if we refuse to shop there. Magoo48 Nov 22 #17
It's not Walmart issue. TomSlick Nov 22 #18
Then we cut back on everything and minimize even the necessities for the duration. Magoo48 Nov 23 #25
If there is the level of inflation that I expect, there will be little choice. TomSlick Nov 23 #38
Guess we're gonna find out. Magoo48 Nov 24 #45
DO NOT GIVE THEM ONE IOTA OF CREDIT They made sure they pronounced this AFTER the election. hlthe2b Nov 22 #2
No kidding - they're happy to blame 50% price increases on tariffs of 20%. Probatim Nov 22 #7
That will happen across the board - every retailer is planning "greed-flation" increases FakeNoose Nov 22 #12
I saw warnings before the election that the tariffs would be inflationary. ificandream Nov 22 #19
Not from Walmart you didn't. Of course any non-moron that knew ANYTHING about how tariffs work hlthe2b Nov 22 #21
Enough economists did, though. (Probably too much for magas to comprehend.) ificandream Nov 23 #37
I wish I could boycott wally world. Basso8vb Nov 22 #3
Walmart isn't really the problem, though. ificandream Nov 22 #20
We already are. If I knew how to post photos I would show you that my order this week was an increase of 23 dollars even onecaliberal Nov 22 #4
No shit! Ray Bruns Nov 22 #5
One of the largest purveyors of Chinese crap JoseBalow Nov 22 #6
The reality is ... VMA131Marine Nov 22 #9
They ALL do it. valleyrogue Nov 23 #41
They ALL Do it. valleyrogue Nov 23 #42
Concur with all above about Walmart. C0RI0LANUS Nov 22 #8
Walmart may have to raise some prices if Trump tariffs take effect, CFO says LetMyPeopleVote Nov 22 #10
Lord forbid that instead Walmart simply sucks it up this time and just reduce its profits a bit instead. cstanleytech Nov 22 #11
Stock holders/Board would fire the CEO underpants Nov 23 #27
Those are the ones I'm talking about as they are in effect Walmart. cstanleytech Nov 23 #32
The Walton heirs control 51% of Walmart stock TexasBushwhacker Nov 23 #34
They want the... Windy Apple Nov 22 #13
China has to teach America (Trump voters) about tariffs. SupportSanity Nov 22 #14
Said BY Walmart ON FoxNews Deminpenn Nov 22 #15
We already knew this YEARS ago! sakabatou Nov 22 #16
I expect Trump's tariffs will cause a "Trump Recession" by the end of 2025 Bluejeans Nov 22 #22
This is going to be one hell of an eye opener for those MAGA trump humper. republianmushroom Nov 22 #23
Well, yes, that's how all tariffs work. Even Biden's. mathematic Nov 22 #24
"And we'll add on a nice little tip for ourselves." Nt spooky3 Nov 23 #26
I think Trump thinks he can use the threat of tariffs in negotiations underpants Nov 23 #28
Wow, it's almost like Blue_Tires Nov 23 #36
He's a fucking idiot underpants Nov 23 #39
I can't even really get mad at him anymore Blue_Tires Nov 23 #44
I will just The Madcap Nov 23 #29
In other news, wildlife biologists warn of an increased likelihood Ocelot II Nov 23 #30
"return to the halcyon days before the pandemic" travelingthrulife Nov 23 #31
Truly puke-ifying UpInArms Nov 23 #33
I find it positively adorable Blue_Tires Nov 23 #35
But Trump promised! Aussie105 Nov 23 #40
Nice of them to tell the rubes AFTER the election. LudwigPastorius Nov 23 #43

TomSlick

(11,949 posts)
18. It's not Walmart issue.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 07:44 PM
Nov 22

Tariffs are paid by the consumer, wherever purchased.

The increase in prices everywhere will result in inflation,

TomSlick

(11,949 posts)
38. If there is the level of inflation that I expect, there will be little choice.
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 06:07 PM
Nov 23

I hope I'm being a pessimist but I expect run-away inflation and recession.

hlthe2b

(106,571 posts)
2. DO NOT GIVE THEM ONE IOTA OF CREDIT They made sure they pronounced this AFTER the election.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 01:37 PM
Nov 22

SOBs... Every one of them. I try hard not to shop at Walmart, but there are things that I can't find elsewhere. sigh... Still, this makes me determined to see if I can live without those few items.

Probatim

(3,035 posts)
7. No kidding - they're happy to blame 50% price increases on tariffs of 20%.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:04 PM
Nov 22

All the while, they'll rake in billions in profits and subsidize their payrolls with our tax dollars through welfare benefits.

FakeNoose

(35,898 posts)
12. That will happen across the board - every retailer is planning "greed-flation" increases
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 04:24 PM
Nov 22

... because Chump just made it so easy for them.

Anyone who voted for Chump is a complete asshole!

ificandream

(10,610 posts)
19. I saw warnings before the election that the tariffs would be inflationary.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 07:50 PM
Nov 22

The problem was the stupids who voted for him ignored it.

hlthe2b

(106,571 posts)
21. Not from Walmart you didn't. Of course any non-moron that knew ANYTHING about how tariffs work
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 08:11 PM
Nov 22

would know that, but few if any retailers of any kind spoke out.

ificandream

(10,610 posts)
37. Enough economists did, though. (Probably too much for magas to comprehend.)
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 01:57 PM
Nov 23
Trump’s economic plans would worsen inflation, experts say (AP)

By PAUL WISEMAN and CHRISTOPHER RUGABER
Updated 6:02 PM PST, October 15, 2024

WASHINGTON (AP) — With characteristic bravado, Donald Trump has vowed that if voters return him to the White House, “inflation will vanish completely.”

It’s a message tailored for Americans who are still exasperated by the jump in consumer prices that began 3 1/2 years ago.

Yet most mainstream economists say Trump’s policy proposals wouldn’t vanquish inflation. They’d make it worse. They warn that his plans to impose huge tariffs on imported goods, deport millions of migrant workers and demand a voice in the Federal Reserve’s interest rate policies would likely send prices surging.

Sixteen Nobel Prize-winning economists signed a letter in June expressing fear that Trump’s proposals would “reignite’’ inflation, which has plummeted since peaking at 9.1% in 2022 and is nearly back to the Fed’s 2% target.


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/trump-inflation-tariffs-taxes-immigration-federal-reserve-a18de763fcc01557258c7f33cab375ed

ificandream

(10,610 posts)
20. Walmart isn't really the problem, though.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 07:53 PM
Nov 22

You'll see the effects of those tariffs everywhere - Walmart, Target, Amazon, everywhere people shop. There were voices telling people that the tariffs were gonna cause inflation. But too many people were caught up in Trumpmania to pay attention.

onecaliberal

(36,186 posts)
4. We already are. If I knew how to post photos I would show you that my order this week was an increase of 23 dollars even
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 01:49 PM
Nov 22

Though I bought exactly the same things.
It was my last shopping there.

VMA131Marine

(4,674 posts)
9. The reality is ...
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:51 PM
Nov 22

there are lots of products that are only made in China and when there are domestically made alternatives they cost 3X or 4X more.

And the other reality is we don’t have the workforce to repatriate a lot of that production when unemployment is around 4% and the Orange idiot is talking about deporting 10-20 million people.

Trump’s proposed tariffs along with mass deportation will bring back inflation on steroids. But at the same time it could cause the price of housing to crash because you can’t remove that many people from the population without creating a huge housing surplus.

valleyrogue

(1,144 posts)
41. They ALL do it.
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 08:32 PM
Nov 23

I just laugh at people who look down on Walmart and those who shop there while ignoring the simple fact ALL retailers do it.

The time to complain was back in the 1980s, when Reagan's economic policies "offshored" millions of manufacturing jobs overseas.

valleyrogue

(1,144 posts)
42. They ALL Do it.
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 08:33 PM
Nov 23

I just laugh at people who look down on Walmart and those who shop there while ignoring the simple fact ALL retailers do it..

The time to complain was back in the 1980s, when Reagan's economic policies "offshored" millions of manufacturing jobs overseas.

C0RI0LANUS

(1,670 posts)
8. Concur with all above about Walmart.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:41 PM
Nov 22

Thom Hartmann castigated Walmart years ago for destroying independent businesses like Mom and Pop shops throughout the US. People phoned in his radio show and said the same thing: Drive through America and every town looked the same thanks to Walmart, after they wiped out all the unique emporiums and stores many hamlets once enjoyed. I remember as a child the different stores my parents took me to in various villages.

And Walmart reportedly made backroom deals with local municipalities that if they opened up a store, no bowling alleys, arcades, etc could be allowed within a 25 mile radius of their "employment-providing" megastore. Walmart wanted shopping to be the entertainment for the townsfolk. And Walmart would pay teenagers and senior citizens strictly minimum wage.

I usually provide sources to my posts, but this was a radio show from many years ago.

BTW: A small town store somehow survived a Walmart:

https://dianeravitch.net/2022/05/07/how-a-small-town-store-survives-despite-walmart/

Other links about Walmart and the environment and unions:

https://truthout.org/video/on-the-news-with-thom-hartmann-walmart-is-one-of-the-world-s-biggest-consumers-of-coal-and-more/

https://www.populardemocracy.org/news/how-walmart-persuades-its-workers-not-unionize

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,064 posts)
10. Walmart may have to raise some prices if Trump tariffs take effect, CFO says
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:52 PM
Nov 22

Consumers will bear the cost of any tariffs.



https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/19/walmart-says-new-trump-tariffs-could-raise-prices.html

Walmart’s CFO, John David Rainey, said the retailer could have to raise prices on some items if President-elect Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs take effect.

“We never want to raise prices,” he said in an interview with CNBC on Tuesday. “Our model is everyday low prices. But there probably will be cases where prices will go up for consumers.”

Rainey added that it’s too soon to say which products could cost more due to the tariffs.

Walmart’s CFO weighed in on the potential policy change as the largest U.S. retailer beat Wall Street’s earnings and sales expectations and hiked its full-year forecast. Lowe’s also addressed the risk posed by the tariff proposal as the home improvement company reported earnings on Tuesday.

Walmart’s and Lowe’s comments are the latest warnings from U.S. retail leaders about the potential blowback from from the duties. During Trump’s presidential campaign, he said he would impose a 10% to 20% tariff on all imports, including levies as high as 60% to 100% for goods from China.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,711 posts)
34. The Walton heirs control 51% of Walmart stock
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 01:30 PM
Nov 23

Even if every other shareholder, every other board member, decided to accept lower profits, the Walton heirs won't let it happen. They don't even give their employees discounts on groceries; only on non grocery items.

Deminpenn

(16,342 posts)
15. Said BY Walmart ON FoxNews
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 05:10 PM
Nov 22

That's going to shock the cult.

The morning of the day after the election I was in Walmart picking up a couple things. The store wasn't real busy so I stopped to chat with the greeter. As we're talking, an older woman pushing a cart wheels past. She's obviously happy and asks the greeter if she knows why she, the customer, is so happy. Of couse it was because Trump won and would fix everything. She couldn't wait to get home and have a noisy celebration to annoy her next door neighbor who was apparently a proud, open about it Dem. I said to be a good neigbbor and be gracious. The greeter said something similar, but I'm sure that advice went in one ear and out the other.

I wonder what her reaction was when she tuned in FoxNews and heard Walmart say prices would naturally go up with Trump tariffs?

Bluejeans

(93 posts)
22. I expect Trump's tariffs will cause a "Trump Recession" by the end of 2025
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 08:12 PM
Nov 22

If a "Trump Recession" happens in 2025 due to tariffs, expect the 2026 mid-terms to be a bloodbath for the GOP.

mathematic

(1,521 posts)
24. Well, yes, that's how all tariffs work. Even Biden's.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 09:30 PM
Nov 22

Tariffs are bad economic policy and you need strong non-economic reasons to even begin to justify putting them in place.

underpants

(186,984 posts)
28. I think Trump thinks he can use the threat of tariffs in negotiations
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 09:07 AM
Nov 23

He can’t really implement them.

Blue_Tires

(56,212 posts)
36. Wow, it's almost like
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 01:53 PM
Nov 23

Trump has no fucking idea how anything works, so he can only try to bully people... And when that doesn't work, he folds and declares victory anyway.

Blue_Tires

(56,212 posts)
44. I can't even really get mad at him anymore
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 10:49 PM
Nov 23

My true rage is reserved for those who continue to enable him, because now he truly is this out of control Frankenstein monster.

Blue_Tires

(56,212 posts)
35. I find it positively adorable
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 01:50 PM
Nov 23

That educated adults really believe Donnie's cult actually gives a shit about "living costs"...

The day after Donnie is coronated, he'll immediately take full credit for Biden's economy and the booming stock market and officially declare the crisis "solved" and the media will lap it up and praise him as some kind of economic genius... And further into his term when the economy really DOES falter, Donnie and his cultists will simply dismiss all critical stories as "fake news". I know this because we saw the exact same thing play out in 2017. We've ALL seen this reality TV show before, I have no idea why anyone is expecting a different outcome from him or his cult...

Donnie is going to fail spectacularly as he always does, the only real question is how many millions of lives are going to be sacrificed at the altar of his Almighty Ego before it's all over.

Aussie105

(6,367 posts)
40. But Trump promised!
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 07:11 PM
Nov 23

Stick a tariff on Chinese imports and the country will get rich!

Sucks to be a dumb moran really.
They obviously don't remember 'Mexico will pay for the wall' and how that turned out.

If it actually happens, prices will shoot up and buyer resistance will seize up the economy.

Careful who you vote for! OOPS, TOO LATE!

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