Israel pushes Gaza death toll to 46,000 as US boosts truce efforts
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Source: Daily Sabah
At least 22 Palestinians were killed in Israeli military strikes across Gaza on Wednesday, pushing the total death toll in the besieged enclave toward 46,000. The latest killings came as the U.S. stepped up efforts to overcome sticking points between Israel and Hamas to reach a cease-fire to end the war. One of the airstrikes killed at least 10 people in a multi-story house in the Sheikh Radwan neighborhood of Gaza City on Wednesday, while another killed five in the nearby Zeitoun suburb, medics said.
On Tuesday, Israeli military strikes killed at least 24 Palestinians across the Gaza Strip, medics said, with two airstrikes hitting tent encampments in Mawasi, to the west of the southern city of Khan Younis, killing 18 people. The dead included several women and children.
There was no comment by the Israeli military on those incidents.
Read more: https://www.dailysabah.com/world/mid-east/israel-pushes-gaza-death-toll-to-46000-as-us-boosts-truce-efforts
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MarineCombatEngineer
(18,060 posts)Welcome to DU.............I think.
Cute screen name.
endgenocide
(166 posts)Yeah who wants to end genocide?
sarisataka
(22,695 posts)the ones that do not involve Jews go merrily on their way with hardly a comment.
Avalon Sparks
(2,751 posts)So yes I’m going to focus on it 100%
sarisataka
(22,695 posts)or speaking out because it would be the morally right thing to do. The attention to genocide depends on money.
Yet isn't it strange that with that standard the killings in Yemen via Saudi Arabia and Pakistan's mass deportation of Afghans to the Taliban get zero attention? They too are funded in part by our tax dollars. We can add Somalia and Ethiopia as well, but I think I have made my point.
AZLD4Candidate
(6,780 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)Bodies still buried in rubble.
mahatmakanejeeves
(69,851 posts)
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The newspaper has been frequently called a propaganda outlet for the Turkish government and the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP). It is owned by a friend of Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.
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Attack on protestors at the Turkish embassy in Washington, D.C
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Nine people have been injured and two more arrested at a protest outside the Turkish ambassador's residence in Washington D.C. on Tuesday. Raw video from by VOA Turkish captured the scene.
by Daily Sabah | ISTANBUL | May 22, 2017 - 12:00 am GMT+3 |
The Foreign Ministry said Monday that the U.S. ambassador to Ankara was summoned to ministry to protest police handling of violent pro-PKK protesters in front of the Turkish embassy in Washington, D.C. during President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's May 16 visit on May.
The statement said that a written and verbal protest was delivered to U.S. Ambassador John Bass due to the "aggressive and unprofessional" actions of U.S. security personnel towards the close protection team of Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu, breaching diplomatic rules and practices.
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During Erdoğan's meeting with U.S. President Donald Trump at around 12.30 p.m. local time (1630GMT), PKK supporters, as well as some protesters carrying Armenian flags, started shouting slogans against Turkey and Erdoğan at Lafayette Square park, just north of the White House.
Çavuşoğlu's close protection team was also involved in scuffles with pro-PKK and Armenia protesters in front of the Turkish embassy, with the footage prompting a defamation campaign against Turkey in U.S. media circles, including several U.S. senators calling for the ouster of Serdar Kılıç, Turkey's ambassador to Washington. ... Kılıç was summoned to the State Department Wednesday to discuss the altercation with Tom Shannon, the acting deputy secretary of state. Turkey's U.S. embassy stated the demonstrators were associated with the PKK, which has waged a three-decade-long bloody insurgency against Turkey and is considered a terrorist group by the U.S.
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endgenocide
(166 posts)Are they propaganda as well?
CAIRO, Jan 8 (Reuters) - Israeli military strikes across Gaza killed at least 22 people on Wednesday, Palestinian medics said, as international mediators pursued efforts to seal a ceasefire and hostage exchange deal between Israel and Hamas.
An airstrike killed at least 10 people in a multi-storey house in the Sheikh Radwan neighborhood of Gaza City, while another killed five in the nearby Zeitoun suburb, medics said.
In Deir Al-Balah city in central Gaza, where hundreds of thousands of displaced Palestinians are sheltering, and in Jabalia, the largest of Gaza's eight historic refugee camps, a total of seven people were killed, they said.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-strikes-kill-dozens-gaza-us-pushes-ceasefire-2025-01-08/
mahatmakanejeeves
(69,851 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(18,060 posts)Let's see...............hmm, would that be the HAMAs run Palestinian Health Ministry?
Excuse me if I don't believe a fucking word coming from HAMAs.
endgenocide
(166 posts)What exactly do you believe? Do you believe that know one has died in Gaza? Here is a video put out by AP, do you think know one died here?
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,060 posts)and just what would lead you to believe that I believe anything Faux has to say?
mahatmakanejeeves
(69,851 posts)They've been at this for a long time.
Good morning, and happy new year.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,060 posts)Reuters is a good news source, but when it comes to Gaza, they get their casualty figures from the HAMAs run Health Ministry and they're not exactly known for telling the truth, it's in their interest to inflate or flat out lie to make Israel look bad.
This whole mess in the ME isn't going to stop anytime soon, the religious hatred in that region is centuries old with no end in sight.
Avalon Sparks
(2,751 posts)Every single fucking day.
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)Those who are already predisposed to paint Israel as deranged monsters only amplify the lies spread by various Hamas ministries.
And who is making Hamas look like deranged monsters?
Crickets...
Mosby
(19,491 posts)Hamas needs to release the hostages and surrender.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)None of this would have happened if Hamas hadn't taken hostages. They got the response they wanted, and based on recent history they will use the hostages for leverage for the next couple decades, all the while European media will make excuses for them. It's already happening.
C0RI0LANUS
(3,017 posts)
AZLD4Candidate
(6,780 posts)Hey, no conflict of interest from people employed by the Hamas Government. None whatsoever.
I keep forgetting Hamas are freedom fighters and not terrorists.
I wonder what will be said the next time Hamas launches a terrorist attack on Israel. I guess that will be Israel's fault too.
endgenocide
(166 posts)Do you think that their are not tens of thousands of civilian casualties in Gaza or do you think the deaths at the hands of the IDF are justified?
AZLD4Candidate
(6,780 posts)As I have said for years, my people's blood is cheap and always has been.
No Oct 7th, no war. That simple.
endgenocide
(166 posts)Israel has the right to go after Hamas but that is not what is happening. Israel is engaged in genocide, they are indiscriminately dropping bombs on a densly populated city full of innocent women and children. The UN and almost every human rights agency in the world has called what Israel is doing genocide. It is obvious to any fair minded person that Israel has no intention of stopping until Gaza is completely destroyed. After that they will occupy Gaza and rebuild for Israeli Jews only. Bibi has said as much several times.
AloeVera
(4,263 posts)I hope you can retire your screen name soon.
Please keep going. DU needs more voices calling for an end to the genocide.
Just know that you will not change certain minds. No matter what is being done to Gaza and its suffering people, there will always be those who refuse to see it for what it is. Don't let it get to you. It is what it is.
Keep calm and mind the TOS.
endgenocide
(166 posts)I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. I just want to shine a light on what is going on in Gaza. Our media in this country hardly mentions it at all anymore yet the death toll mounts day after day. People who support the genocide may think they support Israel but this episode is and will continue to damage Israel as a legitimate democracy for years to come.
AloeVera
(4,263 posts)Yes, it's self-destruction too. So sad but infuriating too.
AZLD4Candidate
(6,780 posts)Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)These assclowns do:
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&t=36s
They are in charge of what happens to Gazan civilians, not Israel.
AloeVera
(4,263 posts)Shoved into mass graves perhaps? Left on the streets to be eaten by dogs? Bulldozed under? Left to die unspeakable deaths in the cold and dark under rubble? Just forgotten?
Those things are happening too.
But some make it to hospitals, morgues, ambulances, their bodies witnessed by would-be rescuers.
Perhaps they should just shut their eyes and pretend they didn't see the bodies of the dead? Because you know, they happen to be government workers and the GOVERNMENT is fucking Hamas? So that makes them all suspect, prone to lying and exaggeration to gain sympathy, right?
You forget that we all have eyes too. We saw it all too.
travelingthrulife
(5,179 posts)the other.
How will our arms industry survive if we can't sell weapons in the Middle East.
endgenocide
(166 posts)Seems like our position in regards to Israels near total destruction of Gaza can be a bit antithetical at times. I think once Trump is in office the objective will be clear and the bombs and bullets will flow! Our arms industry will be just fine.
C0RI0LANUS
(3,017 posts)
Then we hear Jared Kushner, Donald Trumpf's former White House adviser and son-in-law
praising the “very valuable” potential of Gaza’s “waterfront property,” suggesting that Israel should remove civilians while it “cleans up” the area.
The Republican oligarch who never worked a hard day in his life further bleated:
Jared Kushner spoke as if the Gaza Strip was a technology triangle in the US with Ivy League universities, cutting edge R&D facilities, and billions to spend on education and healthcare.
From wiki: "All universities in Gaza have been damaged or destroyed by the Israel Defense Forces."
Per CIA, GDP per capita in the Gaza Strip in 2023 was $5,300. GDP per capita for Israel in 2023 was $48,300.
The Likud Party does not act in the interest of the Democratic Party or the hard-working American taxpayer.
Sources:
https://apnews.com/article/jared-kushner-trump-israel-waterfront-property-901895eeafee867e69d0c4582a4deb47
https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/israel/#economy
Mosby
(19,491 posts)Link to tweet
/mediaviewer
Israeli
(4,485 posts)breaks my heart ......we had so much hope back then .
Came on just to ask you something ......have you ever seen the documentary " The Human Factor " ?
Ref : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Human_Factor_(2019_film)
They are showing it here , I saw it last week .
I lived thru it all but yet I learnt , its worth watching .
Mosby
(19,491 posts)Simple as that. He couldn't do a deal.
I lived through it as well, along with my family in Israel.
C0RI0LANUS
(3,017 posts)No, my wife and I don't watch TV or movies. But I have heard of this documentary. If it's a book, I'll certainly read it.
I remember this:
And 16 years later:
“We who have fought against you, the Palestinians, we say to you today in a loud and a clear voice: Enough of blood and tears. Enough!” declared Israeli PM Yitzhak Rabin, the 71-year-old former IDF general.
This was one of the proposed ideas that grew from the Oslo Accords and much less costly than billions of dollars of death and misery for Israelis and Palestinians:
Like the bridge below:
(Elevated road connecting Jerusalem with the Etzion Block. Photo courtesy of Zeev Barkan.)
Israeli
(4,485 posts)If you haven't read it already this is a must :
Murder in the Name of God
The Plot to Kill Yitzhak Rabin
By MICHAEL KARPIN and INA FRIEDMAN
@ : https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/first/k/karpin-murder.html
I was there that night together with busloads from my kibbutz and my husband and three children.
I was young and politically naive.
Changed my life forever.
You want to understand the division in this country today .......it all leads back to that night ,
C0RI0LANUS
(3,017 posts)I am too far behind in my reading list, but thank you for the lead.
The rightwing are so alike in so many countries.
Trigger warning, Israeli, regarding the following photos.
Both of these manyaks did their damage in 1995. Look at their eyes.
I sometimes wonder about the eyes of some of our contributors here on DU.
Yigal Amir attacked on 4 Nov 1995.
Timothy McVeigh attacked on 19 Apr 1995.
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)And, believe it or not, when I wonder about the eyes of some of our contributors here on DU, it is not when I come across pictures of villains. Weird, isn't it?
I also sometimes wonder if I should alert on people for whom this is the case. But then I remember that I don't alert on principle, and, however reluctantly, I let those posts speak for themselves.
Mosby
(19,491 posts)FYI.
AloeVera
(4,263 posts)I am so sorry. I see how that would have shaped your views.
Murder in the name of God... it never stopped, did it? Always God, on either side...
Nice to see you here.
ZRB
(465 posts)They started a war in brutal fashion with a much-stronger opponent and still refuse to surrender and return the hostages, and now want sympathy for incurring casualties in an urban war. They won't get it from me. If Palestinians in Gaza want this to end, they should turn in their Hamas brothers/sons/husbands, take to the streets, and force a surrender. Israel is right to not stop until Hamas is destroyed.
Avalon Sparks
(2,751 posts)The claim that Hamas is responsible not only for its own atrocities but also every atrocity committed by Israel has to be one the most disingenuous and morally bankrupt talking points of this whole horrific episode.
We are watching a land grab by genocide, and it’s the most repulsive thing I’ve ever seen.
ZRB
(465 posts)Starting a war has consequences. Israel had abandoned that land since 2005, but then Hamas started this latest war. Israel won't stop until Hamas is gone. There is no ceasefire scenario where Hamas gets to stay in power. This ends when they surrender or are destroyed, and I'm fine with that.
Avalon Sparks
(2,751 posts)Putting people inside a razorwire fence and bombing them is not a war. If doing that was a WAR tactic then Aushwitz was just a war zone by the IDFs own description.
LeftInTX
(34,294 posts)endgenocide
(166 posts)Israel is one of the most advanced military's in the world (thanks to the good old USA) they are bombing a mostly unarmed civilian population into oblivian. If Israel really wanted to root out Hamas (which they certainly have the right to do) they would have sent in special forces and fought Hamas face to face, the so called "war " would have been over by now. They didn't do that because Bibi and the IDF don't do War they do genocide. Israels intentions are to completely destroy Gaza , take the land and then rebuild it for Israeli Jews only. Once Trump is in office you will see that play out quickly and based on you "poor babies" comment you might be thrilled. When tensions flared recently with Lebanon Israel went to the table and negotiated a cease fire in less than two weeks, why because Lebanon has the capability to fight back.
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)a well armed, well trained, 40,000 strong terror group attacks Israeli civilians and then hides behind the backs of Gazan civilians.
Then, it's a war between a terrorist group who couldn't care less about rules of war and international law and an army.
But still a war.
AZLD4Candidate
(6,780 posts)Genocide is only genocide in western civilization when certain people die. But those with a flag with a six pointed star. . .well, the brutality they've suffered for centuries is either denied or excused.
AloeVera
(4,263 posts)With what strength? Do you know what 14 months of near-continuous starvation does to a human body? Illness, deprivation, grief, trauma?
With what arms? They have nothing. And if they did, the IDF would kill them on sight, never mind Hamas.
To think that starving, weak, unarmed people could do what the IDF hasn't accomplished in over a year is a fairy tale for the gullible or those looking for excuses for a genocide.
Israeli
(4,485 posts)......welcome to DU.
endgenocide
(166 posts)
Beringia
(5,507 posts)Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)What do you think?
...Oh wait, that would be against DU rules.
Never mind!
lapucelle
(21,061 posts)It tracks on two levels.
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)Mosby
(19,491 posts)Any idea?
Did anyone die from natural causes?
lapucelle
(21,061 posts)Oh, it's a Turkish right wing news site with a mixed record for factual reporting.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-sabah/
lapucelle
(21,061 posts)GMT+3 is Moscow time.
What "agency" filed the story that the Turkish right-wing Daily Sabah published?
Lasher
(29,576 posts)Daile Sabah is Right Biased based on story selection and editorial positions that frequently favor the right-leaning government. It is therefore unsuitable as a DU LBN Forum source.