Donald Trump says residents of Greenland want to be part of US

[groundloop]

Source: The Guardian

Donald Trump has said he believes the US will take control of Greenland, after details emerged of a “horrendous” call in which he made economic threats to Denmark, which has said the territory is not for sale.

Speaking onboard Air Force One on Saturday, Trump said: “I think we’re going to have it,” and claimed that the Arctic island’s 57,000 residents “want to be with us”.

“I do believe Greenland, we’ll get because it really has to do with freedom of the world,” he said. “It has nothing to do with the United States, other than we’re the one that can provide the freedom.”

[.......]

His latest comments follow a “horrendous” phone call with the Danish prime minister, Mette Frederiksen, during which Trump was said to be aggressive and confrontational in his attempt to take over the island. Five current and former senior European officials told the Financial Times that the call had gone very badly. “It was horrendous,” said one of the sources. “It was a cold shower,” another told the paper. “Before, it was hard to take seriously, but I do think it is serious and potentially very dangerous.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/26/donald-trump-residents-greenland-us

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He's out of his fucking mind and the world is laughing at us.

[jls4561]

1. Yeah, and Mexico paid for your wall.

[Xipe Totec]

46. And ceded half of its territory to the US

California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming.

Because, hey, the Mexican residents of this territory would be better off under US control.

[Think. Again.]

2. More trump B.S.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1323

[Hekate]

3. Denmark is solid, but something is rotten in Washington, DC

Orange Mussolini is batshit crazy

[brush]

4. So stupid, as if the people of Greenland are not free and he will free them.

The man just manufactures lies. He has no idea what Greenlanders think. I'm pretty sure they want nothing to do with trump.

[MadameButterfly]

5. Greenlanders have single payer health care and benefits

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Trump can't even dream of. Informed Greenlanders won't choose this.
But Trump will start a trade war, sanctions, etc. with Denmark if they say no, or he'll just send in the army.
Then NATO has to decide if they'll go to war over Greenland with Russia at their backs.

[brush]

7. If trump sends troops, there willl be huge international repercussions. Here's hoping...

the cowed rethugs in Congress and his admin, plus the military chiefs advice the fool to back off.

It's going to be a mess going against NATO.

[kimbutgar]

11. Hegeseth will be right on it!

After having a few cocktails .

[brush]

66. Heehee.

[Irish_Dem]

12. What will the international repercussions be?

[brush]

21. You've heard Demanrk is in NATO. Greenland belongs to NATO. NATO is not going to let trump bully the alliance ...

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by sending in troops without doing something about it.

[Irish_Dem]

23. We don't know that.

NATO knows it cannot take on the US military which is the most powerful military in the world.

And Europe cannot afford 50% tariffs.

The entire US government folded like a cheap lawn chair and let a dangerous psychopath criminal
take over.

We do not yet know what the rest of the world will do.
It is too early to tell.

[brush]

25. Please. Do you actually think NATO is going to let trump invade Greenland without reacting?

Europe has many resources and friends in the world. I doubt it woud just be Europe uniting to fight against trump's bullying. The Colunbian's president's message of resistance to trump's bullying should give you and idea that the world is not going just roll over for trump.

[Irish_Dem]

26. Please. Do not think for one minute NATO will take on the US military.

Won't happen.

NATO is not going to commit suicide and get Europeans killed over gd Greenland.

But I agree other methods may be used.
But not a military confrontation.

[brush]

27. UnderstimatingNATO and allies would be a naive mistake. There will be international...

repercussions and resistance to trump invading Greenland. And it will also come from people here in the US.

[brush]

28. Naive. Europe and allies will not just roll ove. Nor will foes of trump here.

[Swede]

29. They will so defend a NATO ally. Or the treaty means nothing.

nt

[AZJonnie]

81. I'd guess he will make a phone call to the Danish and say the US is sending the full weight of the US military

and that our forces will physically remove any Danish diplomats from the capital city if necessary, and declare the country to be US territory. The Danish government will not want their diplomats in harms way, so they will bring them home. US military will disembark and take over the capital city, and that will be that. Trump will simply take it, without a shot being fired. And Putin will absolutely lick his chops over the discord this will cause with NATO, which will lead the US leaving it, one of his greatest dreams. IMHO, the best chance Greenland has is that Trump is thwarted by Americans. For a historical reference see: Chamberlain, Neville.

[brush]

98. Ok, let's see if that happens. In his first term the adults in the froom, those generals...

on his staff stopped the fool from his silly impulses. I don't think everyone will roll overr and let the idiot invade a sovereing nation who has done nothing to us.

:et's watch and see if no one puts up a fight against the bully.

[MadameButterfly]

109. He's replacing all those generals

He'll only have generals who will go along.

[brush]

112. Denmark just announce they are investing two billion in Greenland and...

sending troops. France is also considering it. Looks like everyone is not going to let the fool invade Greenland without a fight.

Should be quite a show.

[MadameButterfly]

113. As I said in post below, NATO countries are arming over this

I just don't think Trump will appoint generals who will talk reason and Trump won't admit defeat or a mistake.

I pray he'll make an excuse when faced with armed resistance.
Crazy that we are even having to talk about this.

[brush]

115. I thought you were the one who said no one would stop trump from taking over Greenland.

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And Denmark and Nato wouldn't do anything?

Sorry. That was not you. It was another poster. I apologize.

[MadameButterfly]

116. I have been asking pointed questions

as to "what repercussions" for Trump trying to take over Greenland not because I disagree but I'm looking for specifics.
I really don't know what they can do that will prevail. But I never thought they'd do nothing.

NATO will see this as a red line like they see Ukraine as a red line. And they are smarter than he is. Hope that is as powerful as Trump not caring about lives.

[MadameButterfly]

110. I read that NATO countries were raising a force to protect Greenland

Sorry I can't recall the source. The question is, how soon? Trump will move fast.
NATO is legally obligated to defend Greenland.

I'm not saying they would win, but they might make it harder and more politically frought for Trump. If he takes it with no shots or lives lost it will unfortunately boost his popularity.

I agree with the likelihood of your scenario and don't want to see lives sacrificed if the cause is hopeless. But no resistance would encourage more of the same. As you have referenced, Neville Chamberlain.

[Lancero]

83. The Colombian President rolled over a couple hours after Trump threatened tariffs.

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Resistance my ass.

[claudette]

86. It's

ColOMbian. Not ColUmbian.

[brush]

70. See post 68.

[chicoescuela]

13. You're kidding, right? Cowed Republicans standing up to tsf? Ha

[brush]

22. There will be trouble with NATO then if the fool sends troops to invade an alliance member.

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Guess he's mimicking Pootie's invasion of Ukraine.

[chicoescuela]

38. And that is working out well for Putin

[brush]

50. Exactly. And it won't go smoothly for the orange turd either.

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Same with Panama as China is intrinsically involved in it's operation with two adjoining ports where ships stage and wait for passage through.

We've got a president in the throes of mental decline who thinks he can bully other sovereign nations, and an alliance of multiple sovereign nations into bending to his will.

I think he'll FAFO.

[chicoescuela]

54. Yeah but good thing we don't an idiot loyalist as Secretary of Defense

that would be a total disaster

[brush]

55. Hegseth is a total disaster. No sarcasm gif needed. That fool will only accelerate this new admin's...

international blundering/fuck-ups. We're not talking about the best and brightest at all in the clown car cabinet.

I'm betting Hegseth will crack under the stress of the first international crisis and will start drinking again.

[chicoescuela]

60. I bet the drinking began minutes after the swearing in.

He can’t go without cocktails until he gets some therapy, no chance at all. He has an inch he can’t scratch. It is a horrible addiction.

[brush]

65. I think you're right. We're all gonna watch unfold too.They'll try to keep his drinking hidden but it'll leak out.

[chicoescuela]

104. This is one subject I'm an expert

[sheshe2]

79. Denmark is one of the founders of NATO.

[brush]

69. Well, maybe not the maga cowards, but even McConnell has spoken out against trump.

Other old school rethug like the Bushes may also.. I'm not counting on them, but the military chief's take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, not trump. And they also are schooled to not obeying illegal orders.

Do you really think nothing will happen and the world will just roll over for trump invading Greenland?

I don't. Ukraine has had much support and aid from other nations in reaction to Russia's invasion. IMO trump will find much opposition too to an invasion of a sovereign nation which hasn't done a thing to the US.

[MadameButterfly]

62. I'm not sure he'll get that kind of advice from his newly appointed

military. What repercussions, and will Trump care?

Honest question: I really want to know what Nato can do about this

[brush]

68. NATO is a formidable foe itself and has allies who may join it in a...

stand against the orange turd bully. See the the message Columbia's president tweeted to trump. There's Japan, Australia, New Zealand...other South American nations who are not fans of the US and it's history of backing dictators who helped the US exploit their natural Resources.

I highly doubt it will go without repercussions if trump invades Greenland.

[Irish_Dem]

90. Japan, Australia, NZ are not going to start waging military war with the US now.

Over gd Greenland.

I am not ruling it out at some future date if things keep going the way they are.

But for right now, it is a movie type fantasy.

[brush]

93. I disagree. trump is a bully hated around the world a just might get this nation in trouble.

There will be repercussions of trump invades Greenland.

[MadameButterfly]

92. i still don't know what these repercussions will look like

I see Trump attempting to destroy the whole economy and likely the progressive president of Columbia. And he might succeed.
Will it cost Americans a lot of money? Sure. But does Trump care?

Like Putin, bot men willing to sacrifice their own people and destroy other countries to avoid humilation. What kinds of reprcussions will stop them?

[brush]

95. Putin has been held to a stalemate by a nation a fifth of it's size.

You can't possibly disagree with that. Tne bully trump could get this nation in big trouble by invading a sovereign nation that has done nothing to it. Just as Putin has.

Let's see if the bully get's away with it.

[MadameButterfly]

99. That stalemate required enormous aid from the US

which is no longer forthcoming, and now will be financing the bully.

I really do want to agree with you. i just don't see what anyone can do to stop him. I wish there was some economic sanction that NATO could enact that wouldn't do more damage to them than to us. I hope someone smarter than me is figuring this out.

Trump and Putin are willing to do damage and they have no shame.
They may end up alone and unloved, but those are not the repercussions I am looking for.

[brush]

100. Aid from the US and other nation happened. Putin has been held to a stalemate.

[MadameButterfly]

102. Yes, but we are talking about Greenland

Is the US going to send money to defend Greenland against a US invasion?

[brush]

103. No one likes a bully. Let's see if trump is actually allowed to invade Greenland.

[MadameButterfly]

105. No one will like it

Thats not the same as not allowing it.

[brush]

106. I don't think it will happen.

[Chili Pepper]

31. It appears to me

That Trump is counting on putting NATO in a difficult position - Continue to help defend Ukraine against Russia or redirect troops to Greenland and thereby handing Ukraine to Russia.

I really think the latter is Trump’s REAL plan. He doesn’t want Greenland. He’s paying back Putin in exchange for his help during the election.

[MadameButterfly]

94. Yes, Trump wants Greenland

It's big. It has resources. And expansion is what dictators do.
He sees the world as one big real estate deal.

But true, NATO is not in a position to fight the US and Russia at the same time.

[rampartd]

32. yea, everybody would trade scandinavian safety net for "concepts of a plan"

[Walleye]

6. Donald, there are a lot of residents in Alaska who would like to be part of Russia

[Traildogbob]

53. The Palin's??

[yourout]

8. Just like Ukraine want to be back in Russia

[ananda]

17. And happy slaves and serfs want to be back in the fields.

...

[BadgerKid]

97. Came here to say this.

[bucolic_frolic]

9. By freedom he means anarchy so Oligarchs can exploit it.

He also believes Mexico and Columbia want our deportations.

[Irish_Dem]

10. Exact same thing Putin said about Ukraine, and Xi is saying about Taiwan.

Trump doesn't even bother to come with original lies.

[Autumn]

14. I would love to know who the person is with their hand up Trump ass making him

come up with this shit and all these EO's. He too fucking stupid to come up with it on his own.

[niyad]

56. miller. banmon. musk. thiel. federalist society. heritage foundation. opus dei. putin.

any or all, take your pick.

[MsSalvia]

15. That phone call.

We need to hear the recording. The world needs to hear it.

[Joinfortmill]

16. He just won't let go of this. It's troubling.

[ananda]

18. Do you get the feeling that Trump is just itching for a war?

I can think of several reasons why, but I couldn't say which
one is foremost. For example:

Having an orgasm at the prospect of commanding an army
and causing violence.

Maybe even getting to use nukes, which he wanted to do in
his first term.

Giving all the starving men he's screwed over jobs in the armed
services to serve as menial servants or cannon fodder.

Making white men in the defense industry and war profiteers
happy.

And of couse being able to loot Greenland for resources.

[LudwigPastorius]

48. Then, there are the additional powers that the president can legally wield under...

declared emergencies or status of war.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/guide-emergency-powers-and-their-use

[ananda]

51. exactly!

This is all such a demented power rush for him!

[Blasphemer]

117. More like Putin is itching for him to do it...

And he’s happy to follow orders.

[sakabatou]

19. Denmark should demand old territories back from US in return.

[wolfie001]

20. Why would they want to:

Give up their great healthcare and replace it with our barely existent health care. I think someone's telling a big lie. Again.

[Rebl2]

24. Lies lies

all lies.

[tclambert]

30. Putin said something similar about Ukraine.

[Marthe48]

33. With felon 47 at the helm

I don't want to be part of America.

[C_U_L8R]

34. Bullshit

There is no reason to believe a word this idiot says

[tonekat]

35. He's a fat, stinky lying liar

It should be tattooed on his face!

[The Wizard]

36. The only Greenlanders

Trump talked to are in the witness protection program.

[Norrrm]

37. Well, there is the druggie that supports Trump's idea and the homeless who got a free meal and a red hat.

[aggiesal]

39. That was a brain fart. Please disregard. That is all. n/t

[dflprincess]

40. Residents of Greenland get the same medical & educational benefits as residents of Denmark

I really doubt they dying to give those up for big premiums & out of pockets and student loans.

[Botany]

41. This is 100% gas lighting..... pure made up Codswallop in order to pull attention from the horrors that ..

…. are happening in the installation of a fascist government after a dirty election.

[PortTack]

73. Ding ding ding

[Aussie105]

42. I'm thinking . . .

Wheel out the 25th Amendment!

The only 'horrendous' thing is the mockery the last election has made of the US version of Democracy.

The world has seen batshit crazy before, and doesn't want to go there again.

What do the military top brass think of Trump's 'let's invade everywhere!' brain farts?

[LudwigPastorius]

49. The top brass that does not declare fealty to Trump will probably be gone soon.

The Traitor has drafted an executive order to purge anyone who refuses to do his bidding.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/11/13/it-could-be-very-hard-do-our-job-top-military-officers-brace-trumps-potential-loyalty-review-boards.html

He is probably waiting for Hegseth to get entrenched in the Pentagon before bringing down the hammer.

[travelingthrulife]

111. What cabinet members will vote on 25th amendment? They are all sworn

loyalists to Trump.

[SamKnause]

43. Donald Trump says..........................

You can stop right there.

Donald Trump is a known liar.

We have heard the reports from Greenland how Jr. used homeless people in trump hats and shirts.

Their pay was a meal.

Fuck trump

Fuck maga

Fuck maga politicians

[Lithos]

44. It sounded like they didn't get that meal...

n/t

[bdamomma]

45. He's

certifiably insane. The world is laughing at us.

[Xipe Totec]

47. Residents of Greenland want Trump to Eat Shit and Die. nt

[Rebl2]

57. Well

So do I.

[Orrex]

52. Probably thinks they'll pay for the wall between Greenland and the US, too.

[autorank]

58. IT'S TIME...

...for SDNY to release the entire Epstein file, including photographs and videos. That would end Trump's bullshit immediately.
Barr could make that happen.

[ShazzieB]

63. If only. 👿

[ancianita]

59. It's the exact same think Russia's Putin said about Ukraine. Shit's not funny, folks.

We need to stop laughing read the history behind these propaganda moves, and pay attention to what's next. Because what he's saying and doing is not new.

The U.S. military won't let us attack a sovereign nation under this CiC's propaganda pretext of "liberating" it.

[doc03]

61. I think Trump will aquire Grernland and

Panama one way or the other. Who can stop the US economicly or militarily? Other than China maybe. Denmark or NATO will not do anything.

[PortTack]

72. So you think he will break international law to do that? Because that is what he would be doing

[AZJonnie]

82. I think he pleasures himself while pondering the idea of violating international law

So, yeah.

[doc03]

91. If he can't force Denmark to sell Greenland and takes it by force what does NATO do,

throw us out. he wants us out of NATA anyway. There is nothing stopping him from taking Panama, he doesn't give a rat's ass
about law and his poll numbers would go up.

[PortTack]

108. His poll numbers are going down...not up

[tanyev]

64. You mean the homeless ones that Don Jr. gave a meal for their participation in a photo op?

Sure. You've probably got enough room for all of them at Mar a Lago. Bring them in if you want.

[Figarosmom]

67. This is exactly what Putin says

Before attacking and trying to take territories for Russia. He says the people want to be Russian and need to be liberated.

In Ukraine 🇺🇦 he said that most of the country are Russian and want to be with him and he has to save them from the nazis.

[Initech]

71. How is it we have no money to keep the government open, but we have money to annex Greenland?

In what fucking world does this make any fucking sense? Just...

[Ilsa]

74. So this is how he gets the US out of NATO: he does

crap so NATO will kick us out.

[YoshidaYui]

75. DONALD TRUMP SAYS LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES AND MAKES SHIT UP

fuck him and his stupid lies. わが大統領は愚かで、狂っているかもしれない!

[FirefighterJo]

77. My 2 cents is...

That it will all fall on the shoulders of the US Forces high command. Invading Greenland is clearly an illegal order : Denmark/Greenland poses no threat whatsoever and has not engagered in warmongering in any way towards the US. And the US would be attacking an ally. Guess we'll see but the intentions of TSF are clear I'm afraid.

[Historic NY]

78. They don't

[W T F]

80. Make them the 51st state so they can Elect two democratic senators 😂😂😂😂

[no_hypocrisy]

84. Same MO as Hitler.

Hitler claimed that Austria wanted to be incorporated into the Third Reich.

All he had to do was drive up to the eastern border with Austria with an army, cross the border, and drive in. Austria was mixed between capitulation and scared out of its mind. So it arranged for Austrians to line the roads to Vienna, cheering Hitler.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

85. Owning Greenland is no longer for "the security of the U.S." but for "the freedom of the world."

The limits of his ego know no bounds.

[Aussie105]

87. When government goes batshit crazy and the halls of power have been stacked with 'yes' people . . .

What is the military to do when given insane orders, like invade Greenland, Panama canal region?

Other countries have responded to such a situation with a military takeover of the government.

I am reminded of Maggie Thatcher sending in the troops to liberate a small island off the coast of Argentina, the Falklands, sparsely populated by sheep farmers and of no significance otherwise.
The British military went along with that.

[Karasu]

88. This is the dumbest fucking shit. But we are living in the dumbest possible reality, so...

[FranklinsTower]

89. This is about further enrichment of the oligarchy -

Gates, Bezos are invested in KoBold Metals to mine battery metals in Greenland, and it looks like Thiel and crew are going there as well. Orange Felonius is paving the way with his ambassador pick to Denmark.

👀 Praxis is a Thiel-backed “network state” project that aims to build its OWN COUNTRY. In Nov, Praxis founder Dryden Brown wrote about wanting Greenland 4 Praxis. In Dec, Trump named Thiel partner Ken Howery as ambassador to Denmark & said the US shld buy Greenland. Praxis & Dryden are thrilled...1/

— Jenny Cohn (@jennycohn.bsky.social) 2025-01-04T10:22:15.469Z

[muriel_volestrangler]

96. This, I think, would be an excellent candidate for the "Latest Trump BS" forum

It starts "Donald Trump says", and that's the biggest reason - if Trump claims it, but there isn't another source, it's BS.

He does this to make himself seem important, to wind up allies like Greenland and Denmark (because he wants to make himself the Most Important Man in the World, with any "allies" subservient to him), to give little thrills to MAGA supporters who are aroused by dissing foreigners, and to cause chaos in the news media, meaning his illegal actions (eg trying to fire Inspectors General) get less coverage.

[TommieMommy]

101. Sure🙄 in his mind but not in reality. This is ridiculous 🙄

[purr-rat beauty]

107. Of course, this won't be fact checked

But I have a suspicion that trump is lying.

I don't know why I feel that, maybe because that's all he does.

[muriel_volestrangler]

114. For the sake of clarity: he's lying, but we can't say that in an LBN thread title

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143383502

"Around 85% of Greenlanders do not want to become part of the US, a new poll has found, as Denmark's prime minister shored up support for its current status.

It comes after Donald Trump said the Arctic island was vital to US security and Denmark should give up control of its semi-autonomous territory.

According to Danish daily newspaper Berlingske, which commissioned the survey by pollster Verian, only 6% of Greenlanders are in favour of becoming part of the US, with 9% undecided."

Read more: https://news.sky.com/story/poll-shows-85-of-greenlanders-oppose-joining-us-as-denmark-shores-up-european-support-13298736?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

DU rules are that polls are "analysis", so the results of them can't be used as an LBN story; but when the president of the USA lies about the same subject, that's news, but we're stuck with the media's "says..." formulation.

I suppose we need Chuck Schumer or someone (perhaps called "Simon"??? ) to say "Greenlanders don't want to be American subjects", use the poll as their proof, and for some media to report it.