White House tells federal workers they can quit now, get paid through September
Source: Washington Post
The White Houses Office of Personnel Management sent an email blast Tuesday to civilian government employees offering them an easy way to quit with pay through Sept. 30, the most sweeping effort yet by the new Trump administration to shrink the ranks of the federal workforce.
The email instructed employees to reply to the message saying they want to resign if they would like to take the offer, which would provide the incentive for workers who accept by Feb. 6, said an Office of Personnel Management spokesperson. Not all employees will be eligible, according to the spokesperson, who said some of the exemptions will be up to agency heads. Additional carveouts exist for immigration officers, some people in national security-focused roles, the Postal Service and the armed forces, the spokesperson said.
The email blast comes less than a day after the White House announced a freeze on federal spending, which plunged the country into confusion and chaos, with food safety, crime prevention and housing assistance programs, among others, on the line. And it caps days of speculation after the personnel management office first start sending emails to groups of federal workers from an hr address, saying it was testing a new distribution system.
This is a developing story. It will be updated.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/01/28/trump-emails-workforce/
Take your own advice Donny and resign.
biophile
(1,424 posts)And Im not sure I would trust them to pay me through September- he has a history of not paying people what they are due and what they have earned.
Evolve Dammit
(21,777 posts)MichMan
(17,151 posts)If someone was planning on retiring anyway, why not get a 6 month head start with pay ?
Hugin
(37,848 posts)By accepting, they may lose their time-in-service and other long term retirement benefits. I am betting its the old fire or get someone to resign in the eighth inning of a nine inning game.
This happens all the time in the private sector and it looks like they want to take it public.
eggplant
(4,199 posts)MichMan
(17,151 posts)May not end up hiring a replacement however
SunSeeker
(58,283 posts)Buyouts are not legal in civil service. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tim-kaine-trump-federal-workers-buyout_n_6799a2bfe4b09dcf5694ef54
littlemissmartypants
(33,590 posts)Quote the line item in the budget where this exists.
And where's the new budget?
Nowhere, it doesn't exist yet and funding ends in March 2025.
MichMan
(17,151 posts)littlemissmartypants
(33,590 posts)SunSeeker
(58,283 posts)WTF, MichMan?
FSogol
(47,623 posts)Ask twitter employees how their buyout worked out. The language of the Trumpish federal buyout is similar. This is a Musk con.
Evolve Dammit
(21,777 posts)DenaliDemocrat
(1,777 posts)Resigning is not retiring
Rebl2
(17,743 posts)really think he will make good on that deal? Dont trust anything he says because all he does is lie. At least if you get fired you might be able to get unemployment.
dickthegrouch
(4,528 posts)Make certain you understand your pension rights before agreeing to anything.
greatauntoftriplets
(179,005 posts)Autumn
(48,962 posts)How long is it going to take to hire and train 2 million people?
Evolve Dammit
(21,777 posts)Skittles
(171,716 posts)just burning it all down
Native
(7,359 posts)Wiz Imp
(9,996 posts)I don't know where that confusion is coming from. There are 2 million people being offered this deal. The point is they want everyone working in office 5 days a week and they hope/figure this will get a small percentage of them to quit rather than return to the office full time. They expect at most 10% to take this offer. That's 200,000, not 2 million.
In reality, I expect far less than 10% to take the deal
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/28/trump-buyouts-federal-workers.html
Trump administration offering buyouts to nearly all federal workers
The Trump administration is offering millions of federal workers the option to accept buyouts through a government-wide deferred resignation program.
The offers come as President Donald Trumps administration pushes federal employees to return to the office five days per week.
The White House expects up to 10% of federal employees to take the buyout, an official told NBC News.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)that deal? Quit your job, stay home and get paid for 8 months? Just a fraction of people taking that offer would cause problems.
Wiz Imp
(9,996 posts)But the point of this is NOT to get rid of the entire federal workforce. Trump announced shortly after the election that they would require ALL employees to work in the office 5 days a week, ending telework. They believed this would cause a large number of people to quit. That didn't happen. So now they came up with this "offer" to try to give an incentive to get more people to quit. I don't think it will work.
turbinetree
(27,551 posts)he did the same shit in Hungary..............
LiberalLoner
(11,467 posts)Time they will be over and done with, forever.
littlemissmartypants
(33,590 posts)There's no money budgeted for this scheme. So, unless it's in the new budget, which doesn't exist yet, they would maybe get paid until March.
LiberalLoner
(11,467 posts)Is that what you are saying?
Because all of these people are currently federal employees, being paid. Right now.
What they are proposing is to allow them to continue to telework as they have been doing so far, at the same rate of pay, until September when they agree to resign with no severance pay.
littlemissmartypants
(33,590 posts)That means pay through February, at best. It's a scam.
LiberalLoner
(11,467 posts)My husband says if that happens, we will probably leave the country.
Native
(7,359 posts)The goal is to not hire replacements and make it even more intolerable due to workload demands on those who remain...resulting in more resignations.
LiberalLoner
(11,467 posts)My husband is a valid source of knowledge because the position he holds is exactly four steps away from the President.
Lulu KC
(8,893 posts)Who works for a federal agency received an email from his union not to sign.
Skittles
(171,716 posts)to believe the con man Donald Fucking Trump
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,725 posts)Skittles
(171,716 posts)than pro-Trump
but yes, they are ALL idiots
Walleye
(44,807 posts)Mz Pip
(28,456 posts)She should probably just take the money snd run.
Trump is not only stupid, hes insane.
SunSeeker
(58,283 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 29, 2025, 03:22 AM - Edit history (1)
All that Trymp offered is that they can telework until September, then they must leave. They will be paid monthly during that time for their services. And can still be fired during that time. It is a trap.
Plus, lump sum buyouts are illegal. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tim-kaine-trump-federal-workers-buyout_n_6799a2bfe4b09dcf5694ef54
LiberalLoner
(11,467 posts)littlemissmartypants
(33,590 posts)New budget negotiations start in March. A month's pay? Good luck with that.
This isn't covered by any federal funds. It's a scam.
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littlemissmartypants
(33,590 posts)And I have no clue what "SES at NNSA" means. I wouldn't be putting all of my eggs in one basket especially when the basket is Donald Trump's.
Regardless, good luck. I hope you have a solid back up plan.
❤️
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littlemissmartypants
(33,590 posts)It's whether or not you both are going to put your lives and futures into the hands of a crook and a psychopath.
All of the money in the world doesn't insure you will be treated fairly or that past promises to you or anyone will be honored going forward.
Besides, if you don't have all that cash cut into incremental scattered amounts when he abolishs the FDIC your circumstances could rapidly change.
But that's not the point. That we are even debating this is nonsensical.
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littlemissmartypants
(33,590 posts)Wouldn't presume so.
My ancestors arrived here before the US was a country. The land that I inherited has been in the family for six generations. I'm not going anywhere.
I'm going to stay and fight. I intend to die trying if necessary.
Like I said earlier, good luck.
LiberalLoner
(11,467 posts)Service to America.
I wish you
and all of us
.good luck too.
LiberalLoner
(11,467 posts)Walleye
(44,807 posts)sop
(18,626 posts)Just admit Trump is running a mob protection racket scheme, telling Americans "hey, too bad if something really bad happens to your country..."
Walleye
(44,807 posts)Deminpenn
(17,506 posts)Special incentive program and voluntary early retirement are actual federal programs for trimming the career civil service workforce.
Under them, career civil servants can get a bonus, like around 15k, to retire early. It's usually targeted to specific series that the agency has too many of like clerks, for example. Sometimes there are age and service time eligibility restrictions, too like age 50 with 20 years in. Not sure if there's a pension penalty under FERS like there was under CSRS for retiring under age 55.
Lonestarblue
(13,480 posts)Since 2000, the federal workforce has grown modestly, but in 2000 federal workers were serving a population of 281,421,906. Today they are serving a population of well over 331 million. In reality, we need more federal workers, especially at the IRS and the USPS. I suspect many workers will accept this offer because who wants to work for a deranged president.
Traildogbob
(13,018 posts)If you watched Racheal, you know where this comes from, and Vance is all in on the tech bro incel pushing this shit to rip out the government like a tumor. Then make Trump CEO of the country. And we need to end our dictator phobia. All in P2025 as well. We are at war with the billionaires and maybe should declare it to use treason punishment.
Oh right, GQP Congress has to declare. And they are the treasonous ass holes.
LiberalLoner
(11,467 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:44 AM - Edit history (1)
To have a handful of billionaires living in cities with their slaves, and the rest of us turned into biofuel.
Wish I were making that up.
Traildogbob
(13,018 posts)I tried to recall his name. He is a terrorist and should be charged and caged.
Rip him out like a damn tumor, then radiate the fuck out of him, throw in some chemo as well.
LiberalLoner
(11,467 posts)doc03
(39,086 posts)they would pay our pension and continue our health insurance until we became 65 and eligible for Medicare.
They filed bankruptcy a month later and I had to pay $800 a month for an almost useless health plan. I wouldn't trust
Trump with a snake.
MichMan
(17,151 posts)doc03
(39,086 posts)work under another owner. The other employer was Cleveland Cliffs that eventually closed the plant.
Cleveland Cliffs happens to be the American company that will probably take over US Steel since the sale to
a Japanese company was stopped.
MichMan
(17,151 posts)Why did the union contract only cover active workers and didn't cover pensions for retirees?
doc03
(39,086 posts)Bengus81
(10,165 posts)Do it you POS.........
MontanaMama
(24,722 posts)Russell Voght of Project 2025 said that they planned to put federal civil service workers in a place of deep trauma. Looks like their plan has commenced.0
CousinIT
(12,541 posts)KatyBR
(203 posts)See https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tim-kaine-warns-federal-employees-against-taking-trumps-buyout-offer-do-not-be-fooled/
"The president has no authority to make that offer. Theres no budget line item to pay people who are not showing up for work. This is a guy who made this promise to contractors again and again and again when he was a private business guy. Oh, come work for me on my casino. Come work for me in a hotel. Were going to do a handshake. Were going to do a contract. The contractor does the work. and then finds out they get stiffed.
So my message to federal employees who receive this is, yeah, the president has tried to terrorize you for about a week and then gives you a little sweetheart offer: If you resign in the next week, were just going to pay you for doing nothing for the next seven months. Dont be fooled. Hes tricked hundreds of people with that offer. If you accept that offer and resign, hell stiff you just like he stiffed the contractors. He doesnt have any authority to do this. Do not be fooled by this guy."