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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,725 posts)
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:40 PM Jan 2025

White House tells federal workers they can quit now, get paid through September

Source: Washington Post

The White House’s Office of Personnel Management sent an email blast Tuesday to civilian government employees offering them an easy way to quit with pay through Sept. 30, the most sweeping effort yet by the new Trump administration to shrink the ranks of the federal workforce.

The email instructed employees to reply to the message saying they want to resign if they would like to take the offer, which would provide the incentive for workers who accept by Feb. 6, said an Office of Personnel Management spokesperson. Not all employees will be eligible, according to the spokesperson, who said some of the exemptions will be up to agency heads. Additional carveouts exist for immigration officers, some people in national security-focused roles, the Postal Service and the armed forces, the spokesperson said.

The email blast comes less than a day after the White House announced a freeze on federal spending, which plunged the country into confusion and chaos, with food safety, crime prevention and housing assistance programs, among others, on the line. And it caps days of speculation after the personnel management office first start sending emails to groups of federal workers from an “hr” address, saying it was testing a “new distribution system.”

This is a developing story. It will be updated.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/01/28/trump-emails-workforce/



Take your own advice Donny and resign.
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White House tells federal workers they can quit now, get paid through September (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2025 OP
You first, don the con! biophile Jan 2025 #1
Get lawyers and fight this at every level. These are not appointed positions, they are career public servants. nt Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #2
Voluntary buyout offers should be prohibited? MichMan Jan 2025 #8
The rub is probably in the fine print... Hugin Jan 2025 #10
Where does the money come from? eggplant Jan 2025 #13
It's already budgeted MichMan Jan 2025 #14
It wasn't budgeted to pay for someone to not work 9 months. This is theft of taxpayer dollars. SunSeeker Jan 2025 #18
No it is not. This is blatant misinformation. littlemissmartypants Jan 2025 #23
That means no one will be getting paid after March regardless of taking this offer or not MichMan Jan 2025 #49
Bingo. littlemissmartypants Jan 2025 #51
So then WHY did you misrepresent that the payout is "already budgeted"???? SunSeeker Jan 2025 #61
Does the executive office have the ability to make this offer without legislation? Nope. This is another con. FSogol Jan 2025 #26
It would be foolish to trust this asshole who pays nobody with your job/pension/benefits. Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #33
You will lose your insurance and potentially pension DenaliDemocrat Jan 2025 #45
Do they Rebl2 Jan 2025 #3
Pension grab! dickthegrouch Jan 2025 #4
Get it all in writing! greatauntoftriplets Jan 2025 #5
Hello!! Is anyone is office hearing this? This man is fucking insane. Autumn Jan 2025 #6
They don't want the agencies to exist. Period. Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #7
they are not interested in governing Skittles Jan 2025 #20
The goal is not to hire replacements. President Musk talked about this on the campaign trail. Native Jan 2025 #39
They're not getting rid of 2 million people. Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #62
And does that fucker have the authority to offer 2 million Federal employees Autumn Jan 2025 #63
That's a different question which I can't answer Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #64
What we are reading and watching is the playbook of Victor Orban............ turbinetree Jan 2025 #9
It's not exactly quitting per se. They will be allowed to work remotely...telework....until September, at which LiberalLoner Jan 2025 #11
Except that... littlemissmartypants Jan 2025 #24
Well, there is no money budgeted for any federal workers, I guess. Including my husband.... LiberalLoner Jan 2025 #37
The budget is due to be renegotiated in March. littlemissmartypants Jan 2025 #43
Definitely a scam. My worry is that even those feds who do not resign with this scam, may stop being paid altogether. LiberalLoner Jan 2025 #47
Nope, they will be going on paid administrative leave. Native Jan 2025 #40
My husband, who has direct knowledge of this, says they will continue to telework...they are not stopping working entirely LiberalLoner Jan 2025 #42
A friend Lulu KC Jan 2025 #12
I'm trying to think just how stupid you would have to be Skittles Jan 2025 #15
70 million or so Americans unfortunately were that stupid. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2025 #16
I still think many of them were more anti-female Skittles Jan 2025 #19
I think you are right Walleye Jan 2025 #31
My DIL is a Federal prosecutor Mz Pip Jan 2025 #17
She can't take the money and run. It is not a lump sum payment. SunSeeker Jan 2025 #21
Exactly, thank you for explaining this. 👍👏 LiberalLoner Jan 2025 #22
What money? The budget covers February. Then... littlemissmartypants Jan 2025 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Jan 2025 #38
It's no longer business as usual, LL. littlemissmartypants Jan 2025 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Jan 2025 #48
Your husband's position and your status are not the issues here. littlemissmartypants Jan 2025 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Jan 2025 #55
I can't make decisions for anyone but myself and littlemissmartypants Jan 2025 #59
Likewise, we are staying and fighting as long as possible, and my husband will continue his work as long as possible in LiberalLoner Jan 2025 #60
My husband is holding an all hands today on the deferred resignation program from OPM. LiberalLoner Jan 2025 #66
This is to deprive them of their healthcare plan Walleye Jan 2025 #27
How much would it take to pay off Trump to stop destroying stuff and leave America alone? sop Jan 2025 #28
I actually think the hatred is more important to him than the money at this point, he just uses the money as a weapon Walleye Jan 2025 #32
SIP/VERA Deminpenn Jan 2025 #29
The federal workforce is not bloated. It is only 1.9% of the total civilian workforce. Lonestarblue Jan 2025 #30
Like he pays his bills!! Traildogbob Jan 2025 #34
Interesting background on Curtis Yarvin. His end game, according to him, is LiberalLoner Jan 2025 #41
Thank you Traildogbob Jan 2025 #57
😍 LiberalLoner Jan 2025 #58
Sounds like the company I worked for. They said if anyone over 62 retired they doc03 Jan 2025 #35
Wouldn't the same thing have happened if you hadn't retired? MichMan Jan 2025 #46
Those who stayed still got paid, got health insurance under the union contract and continued to doc03 Jan 2025 #50
That sucks MichMan Jan 2025 #52
The offer to pay our insurance wasn't a part of the union contract. doc03 Jan 2025 #67
Trump is a Federal worker....I'll promise him 12 months of pay IF he resigns today Bengus81 Jan 2025 #36
During the campaign MontanaMama Jan 2025 #53
They should refuse that deal. It's a ruse. They'd never get their money. nt CousinIT Jan 2025 #56
Kaine says DON'T ACCEPT TRUMP'S OFFER - He has no Authority/No Funds KatyBR Jan 2025 #65

biophile

(1,424 posts)
1. You first, don the con!
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:45 PM
Jan 2025

And I’m not sure I would trust them to pay me through September- he has a history of not paying people what they are due and what they have earned.

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
2. Get lawyers and fight this at every level. These are not appointed positions, they are career public servants. nt
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:45 PM
Jan 2025

MichMan

(17,151 posts)
8. Voluntary buyout offers should be prohibited?
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:22 PM
Jan 2025

If someone was planning on retiring anyway, why not get a 6 month head start with pay ?

Hugin

(37,848 posts)
10. The rub is probably in the fine print...
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:55 PM
Jan 2025

By accepting, they may lose their time-in-service and other long term retirement benefits. I am betting it’s the old fire or get someone to resign in the eighth inning of a nine inning game.

This happens all the time in the private sector and it looks like they want to take it public.

littlemissmartypants

(33,590 posts)
23. No it is not. This is blatant misinformation.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:52 AM
Jan 2025

Quote the line item in the budget where this exists.

And where's the new budget?

Nowhere, it doesn't exist yet and funding ends in March 2025.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
61. So then WHY did you misrepresent that the payout is "already budgeted"????
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:02 PM
Jan 2025

WTF, MichMan?

FSogol

(47,623 posts)
26. Does the executive office have the ability to make this offer without legislation? Nope. This is another con.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:01 AM
Jan 2025

Ask twitter employees how their buyout worked out. The language of the Trumpish federal buyout is similar. This is a Musk con.

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
33. It would be foolish to trust this asshole who pays nobody with your job/pension/benefits.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:27 AM
Jan 2025

Rebl2

(17,743 posts)
3. Do they
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:45 PM
Jan 2025

really think he will make good on that deal? Don’t trust anything he says because all he does is lie. At least if you get fired you might be able to get unemployment.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
6. Hello!! Is anyone is office hearing this? This man is fucking insane.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 07:57 PM
Jan 2025

How long is it going to take to hire and train 2 million people?

Native

(7,359 posts)
39. The goal is not to hire replacements. President Musk talked about this on the campaign trail.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:02 AM
Jan 2025

Wiz Imp

(9,996 posts)
62. They're not getting rid of 2 million people.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:07 PM
Jan 2025

I don't know where that confusion is coming from. There are 2 million people being offered this deal. The point is they want everyone working in office 5 days a week and they hope/figure this will get a small percentage of them to quit rather than return to the office full time. They expect at most 10% to take this offer. That's 200,000, not 2 million.

In reality, I expect far less than 10% to take the deal

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/28/trump-buyouts-federal-workers.html
Trump administration offering buyouts to nearly all federal workers

The Trump administration is offering millions of federal workers the option to accept buyouts through a government-wide “deferred resignation” program.

The offers come as President Donald Trump’s administration pushes federal employees to return to the office five days per week.

The White House expects up to 10% of federal employees to take the buyout, an official told NBC News.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
63. And does that fucker have the authority to offer 2 million Federal employees
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:14 PM
Jan 2025

that deal? Quit your job, stay home and get paid for 8 months? Just a fraction of people taking that offer would cause problems.

Wiz Imp

(9,996 posts)
64. That's a different question which I can't answer
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:21 PM
Jan 2025

But the point of this is NOT to get rid of the entire federal workforce. Trump announced shortly after the election that they would require ALL employees to work in the office 5 days a week, ending telework. They believed this would cause a large number of people to quit. That didn't happen. So now they came up with this "offer" to try to give an incentive to get more people to quit. I don't think it will work.

turbinetree

(27,551 posts)
9. What we are reading and watching is the playbook of Victor Orban............
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:43 PM
Jan 2025

he did the same shit in Hungary..............

LiberalLoner

(11,467 posts)
11. It's not exactly quitting per se. They will be allowed to work remotely...telework....until September, at which
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 09:03 PM
Jan 2025

Time they will be over and done with, forever.

littlemissmartypants

(33,590 posts)
24. Except that...
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:55 AM
Jan 2025

There's no money budgeted for this scheme. So, unless it's in the new budget, which doesn't exist yet, they would maybe get paid until March.

LiberalLoner

(11,467 posts)
37. Well, there is no money budgeted for any federal workers, I guess. Including my husband....
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:59 AM
Jan 2025

Is that what you are saying?

Because all of these people are currently federal employees, being paid. Right now.

What they are proposing is to allow them to continue to telework as they have been doing so far, at the same rate of pay, until September when they agree to resign with no severance pay.

littlemissmartypants

(33,590 posts)
43. The budget is due to be renegotiated in March.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:16 AM
Jan 2025

That means pay through February, at best. It's a scam.

LiberalLoner

(11,467 posts)
47. Definitely a scam. My worry is that even those feds who do not resign with this scam, may stop being paid altogether.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:36 AM
Jan 2025

My husband says if that happens, we will probably leave the country.

Native

(7,359 posts)
40. Nope, they will be going on paid administrative leave.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:04 AM
Jan 2025

The goal is to not hire replacements and make it even more intolerable due to workload demands on those who remain...resulting in more resignations.

LiberalLoner

(11,467 posts)
42. My husband, who has direct knowledge of this, says they will continue to telework...they are not stopping working entirely
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:07 AM
Jan 2025

My husband is a valid source of knowledge because the position he holds is exactly four steps away from the President.

Skittles

(171,716 posts)
15. I'm trying to think just how stupid you would have to be
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:20 AM
Jan 2025

to believe the con man Donald Fucking Trump

Skittles

(171,716 posts)
19. I still think many of them were more anti-female
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:45 AM
Jan 2025

than pro-Trump

but yes, they are ALL idiots

Mz Pip

(28,456 posts)
17. My DIL is a Federal prosecutor
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:21 AM
Jan 2025

She should probably just take the money snd run.

Trump is not only stupid, he’s insane.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
21. She can't take the money and run. It is not a lump sum payment.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:52 AM
Jan 2025

Last edited Wed Jan 29, 2025, 03:22 AM - Edit history (1)

All that Trymp offered is that they can telework until September, then they must leave. They will be paid monthly during that time for their services. And can still be fired during that time. It is a trap.

Plus, lump sum buyouts are illegal. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tim-kaine-trump-federal-workers-buyout_n_6799a2bfe4b09dcf5694ef54

littlemissmartypants

(33,590 posts)
25. What money? The budget covers February. Then...
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:57 AM
Jan 2025

New budget negotiations start in March. A month's pay? Good luck with that.

This isn't covered by any federal funds. It's a scam.

Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #25)

littlemissmartypants

(33,590 posts)
44. It's no longer business as usual, LL.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:20 AM
Jan 2025

And I have no clue what "SES at NNSA" means. I wouldn't be putting all of my eggs in one basket especially when the basket is Donald Trump's.

Regardless, good luck. I hope you have a solid back up plan.

❤️

Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #44)

littlemissmartypants

(33,590 posts)
54. Your husband's position and your status are not the issues here.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:26 AM
Jan 2025

It's whether or not you both are going to put your lives and futures into the hands of a crook and a psychopath.

All of the money in the world doesn't insure you will be treated fairly or that past promises to you or anyone will be honored going forward.

Besides, if you don't have all that cash cut into incremental scattered amounts when he abolishs the FDIC your circumstances could rapidly change.

But that's not the point. That we are even debating this is nonsensical.

Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #54)

littlemissmartypants

(33,590 posts)
59. I can't make decisions for anyone but myself and
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:39 AM
Jan 2025

Wouldn't presume so.

My ancestors arrived here before the US was a country. The land that I inherited has been in the family for six generations. I'm not going anywhere.

I'm going to stay and fight. I intend to die trying if necessary.

Like I said earlier, good luck.

LiberalLoner

(11,467 posts)
60. Likewise, we are staying and fighting as long as possible, and my husband will continue his work as long as possible in
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:43 AM
Jan 2025

Service to America.

I wish you…and all of us….good luck too.

sop

(18,626 posts)
28. How much would it take to pay off Trump to stop destroying stuff and leave America alone?
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:11 AM
Jan 2025

Just admit Trump is running a mob protection racket scheme, telling Americans "hey, too bad if something really bad happens to your country..."

Walleye

(44,807 posts)
32. I actually think the hatred is more important to him than the money at this point, he just uses the money as a weapon
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:27 AM
Jan 2025

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
29. SIP/VERA
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:19 AM
Jan 2025

Special incentive program and voluntary early retirement are actual federal programs for trimming the career civil service workforce.

Under them, career civil servants can get a bonus, like around 15k, to retire early. It's usually targeted to specific series that the agency has too many of like clerks, for example. Sometimes there are age and service time eligibility restrictions, too like age 50 with 20 years in. Not sure if there's a pension penalty under FERS like there was under CSRS for retiring under age 55.

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
30. The federal workforce is not bloated. It is only 1.9% of the total civilian workforce.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:23 AM
Jan 2025

Since 2000, the federal workforce has grown modestly, but in 2000 federal workers were serving a population of 281,421,906. Today they are serving a population of well over 331 million. In reality, we need more federal workers, especially at the IRS and the USPS. I suspect many workers will accept this offer because who wants to work for a deranged president.

Traildogbob

(13,018 posts)
34. Like he pays his bills!!
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:29 AM
Jan 2025

If you watched Racheal, you know where this comes from, and Vance is all in on the tech bro incel pushing this shit to rip out the government like a tumor. Then make Trump CEO of the country. And we need to end our dictator phobia. All in P2025 as well. We are at war with the billionaires and maybe should declare it to use treason punishment.
Oh right, GQP Congress has to declare. And they are the treasonous ass holes.

LiberalLoner

(11,467 posts)
41. Interesting background on Curtis Yarvin. His end game, according to him, is
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:05 AM
Jan 2025

Last edited Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:44 AM - Edit history (1)

To have a handful of billionaires living in cities with their slaves, and the rest of us turned into biofuel.

Wish I were making that up.

Traildogbob

(13,018 posts)
57. Thank you
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:31 AM
Jan 2025

I tried to recall his name. He is a terrorist and should be charged and caged.
Rip him out like a damn tumor, then radiate the fuck out of him, throw in some chemo as well.

doc03

(39,086 posts)
35. Sounds like the company I worked for. They said if anyone over 62 retired they
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:41 AM
Jan 2025

they would pay our pension and continue our health insurance until we became 65 and eligible for Medicare.
They filed bankruptcy a month later and I had to pay $800 a month for an almost useless health plan. I wouldn't trust
Trump with a snake.

doc03

(39,086 posts)
50. Those who stayed still got paid, got health insurance under the union contract and continued to
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:09 AM
Jan 2025

work under another owner. The other employer was Cleveland Cliffs that eventually closed the plant.
Cleveland Cliffs happens to be the American company that will probably take over US Steel since the sale to
a Japanese company was stopped.

MichMan

(17,151 posts)
52. That sucks
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:11 AM
Jan 2025

Why did the union contract only cover active workers and didn't cover pensions for retirees?

Bengus81

(10,165 posts)
36. Trump is a Federal worker....I'll promise him 12 months of pay IF he resigns today
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:42 AM
Jan 2025

Do it you POS.........

MontanaMama

(24,722 posts)
53. During the campaign
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:16 AM
Jan 2025

Russell Voght of Project 2025 said that they planned to put federal civil service workers in a place of deep trauma. Looks like their plan has commenced.0

KatyBR

(203 posts)
65. Kaine says DON'T ACCEPT TRUMP'S OFFER - He has no Authority/No Funds
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:55 PM
Jan 2025

See https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tim-kaine-warns-federal-employees-against-taking-trumps-buyout-offer-do-not-be-fooled/


"The president has no authority to make that offer. There’s no budget line item to pay people who are not showing up for work. This is a guy who made this promise to contractors again and again and again when he was a private business guy. ‘Oh, come work for me on my casino.’ ‘Come work for me in a hotel.’ ‘We’re going to do a handshake. We’re going to do a contract.’ The contractor does the work. and then finds out they get stiffed.

So my message to federal employees who receive this is, yeah, the president has tried to terrorize you for about a week and then gives you a little sweetheart offer: ‘If you resign in the next week, we’re just going to pay you for doing nothing for the next seven months.’ Don’t be fooled. He’s tricked hundreds of people with that offer. If you accept that offer and resign, he’ll stiff you just like he stiffed the contractors. He doesn’t have any authority to do this. Do not be fooled by this guy."

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