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Prairie Gates

(8,151 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:22 AM Feb 2025

Trump administration agrees to restrict DOGE access to Treasury Department payment systems

Source: NBC News

Attorneys for the Justice Department have agreed to temporarily restrict staffers associated with Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency from accessing information in the Treasury Department’s payment system.

The agreement comes after a group of union members and retirees sued the Treasury Department alleging that providing DOGE access to the federal government’s massive payment and collections system — and the personal data housed in it — violated federal privacy laws.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-administration-agrees-restrict-doge-access-treasury-department-p-rcna190898?taid=67a4345d80b4da00016d8efa&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&fbclid=IwY2xjawIRGBtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHdO8Ru0zFzXO2oMp8OIVoWL-dwSkCGR1QgvOM33UHkWH0UQg6Afva0NETA_aem_5GfueYdjT7zQc59dOVGtpg



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Trump administration agrees to restrict DOGE access to Treasury Department payment systems (Original Post) Prairie Gates Feb 2025 OP
i.e. AGREES TO FOLLOW THE LAW ... for now. nt eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #1
I don't like that they exempted two of these cafones Prairie Gates Feb 2025 #4
Keep those lawsuits active. TSF cannot be trusted as he has no credibility Deuxcents Feb 2025 #2
Certainly we can trust they will🤔 Traildogbob Feb 2025 #3
Not good enough. sinkingfeeling Feb 2025 #5
Agreed Prairie Gates Feb 2025 #7
Yeh. They do it after a court case today. yellow dahlia Feb 2025 #6
Computer forensic scientists dweller Feb 2025 #9
Need a show cause order detailing what they took Ponietz Feb 2025 #8
I seriously doubt he will do that. Trump is all about words when it comes to this sort of stuff. patphil Feb 2025 #10
It's too late Pachamama Feb 2025 #11
They want Tom Krause to retain access...he's the CEO CSG, parent of Citrix, the remote access company Prairie Gates Feb 2025 #13
so they aren't reallly giving up access MadameButterfly Feb 2025 #21
Are you seriously going to take their word for it? Baitball Blogger Feb 2025 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie Gates Feb 2025 #14
Oh, not talking to you. Baitball Blogger Feb 2025 #15
Copy that Prairie Gates Feb 2025 #18
Oh, man I get it. Baitball Blogger Feb 2025 #19
Wow - how'd MY FACE get in there? calimary Feb 2025 #34
Right Baron2024 Feb 2025 #24
Tulsi will send somebody over... rubbersole Feb 2025 #26
Agents Baron2024 Feb 2025 #27
Okay, next! Lulu KC Feb 2025 #16
Sure. The convicted fraudster and rapist can always be believed. Hassler Feb 2025 #17
Read Only (snort) FormerOstrich Feb 2025 #20
But who knows how much of it they've compromised already.... Sogo Feb 2025 #22
NO SHIT Skittles Feb 2025 #23
Easily. Less than a day of unfettered access and they'd be done. defacto7 Feb 2025 #29
I worked for decades in IT Skittles Feb 2025 #33
and who will insure that the access will be blocked to DOGE? JohnSJ Feb 2025 #25
Treasury Dept. techs should be back at work reviewing, securing, and basically... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #28
Seems it's too late for this. City Lights Feb 2025 #30
Thay have NO PLANS TO SHARE INFORMATION.......... Fla Dem Feb 2025 #31
All these personal data accesses has made it's Deminpenn Feb 2025 #32

Prairie Gates

(8,151 posts)
4. I don't like that they exempted two of these cafones
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:27 AM
Feb 2025

Tom Krause and the 25 year-old Muskite Marke Elez...they get "read only." They should get oogatz.

Deuxcents

(26,912 posts)
2. Keep those lawsuits active. TSF cannot be trusted as he has no credibility
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:24 AM
Feb 2025

This situation should have never happened..make him accountable

Prairie Gates

(8,151 posts)
7. Agreed
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:29 AM
Feb 2025

Two of the worst (Krause and Elez) still get access, if "read only." Shut them all out.

Krause is the CEO of Citrix, the remote access outfit. What the fuck is this guy doing in Treasury computers?

Elez is the 25 year-old shitbag harrassing lifetme civil servants and refusing to identify himself.

Fuck outta here!

yellow dahlia

(5,866 posts)
6. Yeh. They do it after a court case today.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:28 AM
Feb 2025

And according to Norm Eisen who brought the suit, w/ other groups, the judge was going to issue a stay tomorrow. Sure now they're "caught" and they make it seem like it's their "idea".

We now get to wonder how much damage was done.

dweller

(28,408 posts)
9. Computer forensic scientists
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:32 AM
Feb 2025

Can asses the damages .
Need the courts to approve this oversight and eventual correction of the data


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patphil

(9,065 posts)
10. I seriously doubt he will do that. Trump is all about words when it comes to this sort of stuff.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:33 AM
Feb 2025

Pachamama

(17,564 posts)
11. It's too late
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:36 AM
Feb 2025

They have likely inserted malware and have even remote access through some type of Trojan Horse. They likely changed code and deleted things.

Read-only my ass

Prairie Gates

(8,151 posts)
13. They want Tom Krause to retain access...he's the CEO CSG, parent of Citrix, the remote access company
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:46 AM
Feb 2025

Baitball Blogger

(52,344 posts)
12. Are you seriously going to take their word for it?
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:45 AM
Feb 2025

They probably already have a mirror image of the files, or a back door. We need cyber security to go in there and see what they did.

Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #12)

Baitball Blogger

(52,344 posts)
15. Oh, not talking to you.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:56 AM
Feb 2025

Talking to the legal heads who might think this will be enough. Much like closing the barn doors after the horse is gone.

calimary

(90,017 posts)
34. Wow - how'd MY FACE get in there?
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 02:32 AM
Feb 2025

Cuz that’s EXACTLY how I look whenever I hear, see, or read ANYTHING about the donald.

 

Baron2024

(1,492 posts)
24. Right
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:47 AM
Feb 2025

We need non Trump NSA specialists in there to see what damage has been done. Frankly Musk and his DOGE Agents might be guilty of espionage depending on what they have done with the data. They should be arrested and their gear should be seized asap.

 

Baron2024

(1,492 posts)
27. Agents
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 03:20 AM
Feb 2025

Some Agents should maybe take some independent initiative. Illegal orders must be resisted. Illegal actions must be met with a response.

Lulu KC

(8,893 posts)
16. Okay, next!
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:59 AM
Feb 2025

Medicare and Medicaid lawsuits, please.

(But isn't it really too late once they're inside? Who's going to watch them to make sure they're being honest? The FBI?)

Hassler

(4,921 posts)
17. Sure. The convicted fraudster and rapist can always be believed.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:01 AM
Feb 2025

Just ask the genocide Joe voters

FormerOstrich

(2,888 posts)
20. Read Only (snort)
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:52 AM
Feb 2025

If you read it you can write it to another medium. It may prevent updating source data but I don't think they are accessing these systems to update the source data. They want the data. If the data has sufficient controls they should have difficulties "read" encrypted data.

Very interesting about the guy from Citrix. I had been under the impression it was just whiz kids (college age/experience). I am disheartened they have people having experience with legacy systems.

defacto7

(14,162 posts)
29. Easily. Less than a day of unfettered access and they'd be done.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 10:36 AM
Feb 2025

Too easy. Managing the data would be done away from the government servers. Injecting necessary changes would be easily concealed until they have full access again.

Skittles

(171,704 posts)
33. I worked for decades in IT
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 05:28 PM
Feb 2025

that "read access only" bull made me LOL

for government contracts I had to be interviewed by the FBI and even then, getting full access to multiple sections of a contract sometimes took MONTHS

these fucking Trump humping freaks are EVERYWHERE NOW and there IS NO SECURITY

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
28. Treasury Dept. techs should be back at work reviewing, securing, and basically...
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 04:39 AM
Feb 2025

...re-writing the entire system immediately, including inserting deadman switches wherever they can. It's big job, but there's no other option.

Fla Dem

(27,633 posts)
31. Thay have NO PLANS TO SHARE INFORMATION..........
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:30 PM
Feb 2025
He said that two DOGE appointees classified as special government employees, the same status held by Musk, have been granted access to the systems but that there is no plan for those two employees or any other DOGE employee working at the Treasury Department to share the information with Musk or anyone outside of Treasury.


Doesn't mean they haven't already!

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
32. All these personal data accesses has made it's
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 03:10 PM
Feb 2025

way into the consciousness of even the folks who don't pay that much attention to anything outside their day to day lives.

The personal data breaches are making the local newscasts. People seem to be paying attention.

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